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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Curval on September 13, 2013, 01:40:58 PM
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This summer I have been renting boats on weekends to take out the family for fun outings. The main reason was to determine whether or not we enjoyed it enough to get ourselves a boat. We had been in a share situation a few years ago but it didn't work out. Not a financial issue, the reasons are irrelevant and too long to get into, but we were bought out with the same amount we bought in so it didn't turn us off the whole concept at all.
For the past two weekends I have wanted to rent a boat, only to be told there was none available or that the wind was too strong for the smaller boats. I was staying at the resort we rent from on Friday and the weather was perfect, maybe they had mechanical issues and didn't want to admit it, I don't know. But, then and there I said to the wife "I'm buying aboat, enough of this nonsense".
The next thing I did was send a text to a good friend of mine who is a very wealthy and sucessful banker. It just said "I'm buying a boat...you in?" This is the ONLY person I would ever consider buying a boat with after our last experience. Great guy, great family and the two of us just think alike on so many things. He owned a boat with 3 other guys many many years ago and vowed he would never buy a boat with anyone again....except me. It has been kind of a running joke with us since.
Anyway, long story short he is very keen. So keen in fact that my inbox is chock-a-block full of his suggestions of types of boats we should consider. One he sent me a couple of days ago was the perfect boat type for both of us and it fit in with everything we are looking for, now it is just a matter of choosing which one. We had the following criteria:
1. Outboard engines only.
2. Big enough to accomodate both our families and possibly a guest or two.
3. Easy to clean and maintain
4. Enough power to ski behind.
This is what we plan on getting (not the exact boat, just the type):
http://www.worldcat.com/site/320ec-powercatamaran-expresscabin/
(I have to laugh because as I am writing this post his emails keep coming in....must be a slow day at the bank)
My sister and her husband own a WorldCat, but a smaller 24 ft version. They love it and haven't had any problems with it all all.
So, what boats do you guys have? Seen a few in the fishing thread but it would be cool to have a thread about boats going separately.
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You are going to like that one!
The two best days of boat ownership.
- the day you bought it
- the day you sold it
BOAT stands for Break Out Another Thousand.
:D
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lol, yea I am well aware of all the issues with boats.
If Mike, my friend, didn't want in I'd still be buying one, just smaller. We are both going into this with eyes wide open.
We live in Bermuda ffs. NOT having one is nuts imho.
My father's place is right on the water, with a dock with power and fresh water available. He's giving us a mooring about 30 feet from the dock which is apparently a hurricane mooring, meaning insurance WILL cover it if left on the mooring. It is all there to be able to be taken advantage of.....we are psyched.
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How can you live there and not have a boat? No wonder your friend is swamping your mail box lol.
That one looks like a great choice for 'a hole in the water to pour money into'.
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Sounds like a fast way to end a good friendship if you ask me.
If it were me, and finances aren't really an issue, I'd buy the boat myself and invite your friend and his family to come along on your boat.
You might look into agreements people have entered into that spell's out co-ownership of a depreciating asset like a boat. Splitting the upkeep, storage costs. Whichever user has to fill the tank back up after using it.
Here are some of the hang ups I foresee.
--One partner wants out after 3 years. What is the procedure, how do we calculate the depreciation, what is a fair price for the boat after 3 years of use, etc.
--You use it x4 more than me, so you should pay more for that mechanical problem that just sprang up.
--Who's name is the boat insured under....You damaged it last weekend, now our insurance is going up. You pay the deductible, and the incremental amount our insurance has gone up by.
--One of your kids friends got hurt on the boat last weekend, it's not my liability, but I'm getting sued for it?
--I don't want to rent a slip from XYZ anymore, it's too far from our house but just down the street from yours.
--We don't want to use the boat on this lake anymore, we like this lake better.
--Do you both have a car that can pull the boat? Who stores/keeps the trailer?
--We don't need a new motor, old one works fine.
--Uhh Jim, say, you haven't paid us for your share of slip fees for 3 months now, kindof getting tired of having to ask every month.
I view boats like swimming pools, better to be friends with a neighbor that has one than own one yourself.
Good luck.
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Check out the Boston Whaler line of boats. :aok
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Buy a used boat. That boat loses 10% of its value driving off the lot.
Get a big enough boat. You dont want to catch 2foot'itus and have to buy another.
DONT buy a boat with a friend. Your probably tired of hearing that.
Theres a limit on beam width if you intend to tow it. if your hard core about fishing you might want to be able to tow the thing around. theres a lot of tournments in those Islands I'd love to fish. You want at least 25' and probably at least 32'. 25' or 26' are about the limits of towable boats.
Center console are hard core fishing boats but might lack a pissser for the ladies. your better off with a cabin with a bathroom and a sleeping area.
2 families? Your talking a big boat. At least 32'.
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This is how boat ownership normally goes.
The first year you use it every weekend of the summer, and exclaim how great owning a boat is.
The second year you use it every other weekend of the summer but swear if you weren't so busy you would be using it every weekend .
The third year you use it once a month and complain about the cost of the fuel and up keep.
The forth year it sits in your driveway and you swear you'll take it out before the summer ends, but you never do.
the fifth year you wish someone would hurry up and buy it so you can get it out of your driveway.
The definition of boat: a whole in the water you throw money at.
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Sounds like a fast way to end a good friendship if you ask me.
If it were me, and finances aren't really an issue, I'd buy the boat myself and invite your friend and his family to come along on your boat.
You might look into agreements people have entered into that spell's out co-ownership of a depreciating asset like a boat. Splitting the upkeep, storage costs. Whichever user has to fill the tank back up after using it.
Here are some of the hang ups I foresee.
--One partner wants out after 3 years. What is the procedure, how do we calculate the depreciation, what is a fair price for the boat after 3 years of use, etc.
--You use it x4 more than me, so you should pay more for that mechanical problem that just sprang up.
--Who's name is the boat insured under....You damaged it last weekend, now our insurance is going up. You pay the deductible, and the incremental amount our insurance has gone up by.
--One of your kids friends got hurt on the boat last weekend, it's not my liability, but I'm getting sued for it?
--I don't want to rent a slip from XYZ anymore, it's too far from our house but just down the street from yours.
--We don't want to use the boat on this lake anymore, we like this lake better.
--Do you both have a car that can pull the boat? Who stores/keeps the trailer?
--We don't need a new motor, old one works fine.
--Uhh Jim, say, you haven't paid us for your share of slip fees for 3 months now, kindof getting tired of having to ask every month.
I view boats like swimming pools, better to be friends with a neighbor that has one than own one yourself.
Good luck.
This is a toy, not a life commitment.
If one guy wants out the other has an option to buy out. If not the boat is sold.
Neither of us are fishermen and we are talking about weekend use only. If he wants it exclusively for a weekend he can take it and visa versa. There's always next weekend. It is simply not possible for one of us to use it 4 times than the other.
Insurance will be in both of our names, jointly and severally.
We don't have huge silly lawsuits at the drop of a hat here. Accidents are considered accidents and there are no punitive damage awards in our courts.
We don't rent slips here. The boat will be moored about 30 feet from the dock at my father's place (as said), which is incidentally about a 2 minute drive from Mike's house. I live a bit further away. My father is letting us use it (the mooring) at no cost, other than the inspections and maintenance which we will cover obviously.
There's only one "lake" around here, it is called the Atlantic Ocean.
Pull the boat where...and why? If the boat has to come out of the water our mechanic will deal with it.
The engines are the biggest consideration for the choice of which boat to buy. Older boat with newer engines (with as little hours as possible) is just fine and dandy. We aren't in any sort of rush either, so we can wait and get what we want.
His name is Mike, not Jim :) and if you knew him you'd know he's never try and "stiff" anyone for any sort of small "fees". There's only one anyway...the mooring inspection twice a year. Total cost $500. Slip fees and trailering boats only apply when the mechanic is involved.
...and that is the key.
Our mechanic will be the son of my business partner who has a well established Marine mechanics business. I happen to be the trustee of trusts set up for his benefit. Great guy and someone with no desire or motivation to rip me off. He only works on outboard engines and won't touch anything else. That is why I only wanted outboard engines for any boat I buy or buy into.
While it was kind of a snap decision made last weekend to buy a boat all of these factors have been mulled over and discussed in detail with Mike. Numerous times. We have lunch at least once a week and play a lot of golf together.
Don't be trying to rain on my parade. ;)
lol
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I would recommend renting a bit more. Ask around maybe other places have better deals.
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This is a toy, not a life commitment.
True a boat is not a life commitment, but it's more than a toy. A vibrator is a toy, albeit one that occasionally plugs into a life commitment.
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I suggest you get the biggest and best built boat you can afford! I have to ask why outboards if you dont plan on fishing,wouldnt a nice sailboat serve your purpose? It would certainly have lower operating cost and if you simply want to tour about and drop anchor for a swim and a few cold ones,well I'd consider a sailboat.
Of course if you must have the outboards,see my first statement! A quality boat,although it may cost a bit more will be worth it in the long run.
Check out the local marina,,see whats for sale and whats not,this will give you a good basis for making your decision,afterall it will be your decision in the end that really maters.
:salute
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We do have hurricanes so I guess we could waterski and wakeboard then, if we got a sailboat. :)
Sailing isn't our thing.
That is exactly what we are doing, getting the biggest best built boat we can find. A 32' WorldCat. Check the link.
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I don't know your budget but I have hunch this might have a enough power to tow a skier..... :aok
(http://features.boats.com/boat-content/files/2013/05/Sea-Vee-390.640px.jpg)
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That's what I had in mind when I mentioned the Boston Whaler boats, except 2 engines instead of 4.
And if that boat wouldn't pull a skier, someone needs to seriously think about eating salads every meal :lol
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I don't know your budget but I have hunch this might have a enough power to tow a skier..... :aok
(http://features.boats.com/boat-content/files/2013/05/Sea-Vee-390.640px.jpg)
What is that about $100K in engines alone? And yeah that should get a skier up, heck you could probably get Shamu up with 1,200 hp.
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We do have hurricanes so I guess we could waterski and wakeboard then, if we got a sailboat. :)
Sailing isn't our thing.
That is exactly what we are doing, getting the biggest best built boat we can find. A 32' WorldCat. Check the link.
I did check the link but unfortunately I'm not familiar with these offshore types,I grew up on the great lakes so I'm more familiar with freshwater boats.
Hurricaines..... well even a powerboat will have problems moving about in that weather.
I like sailing so I'm biased but I still think you should get the biggest and best you can afford.
:salute
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Here's a video of the type of boat we are looking at. We won't be looking for one with a tower. All of that storage you can change from fishing poles to waterskis and bait wells and fish holding tanks....lots of ice. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrJRbSK5rkQ&list=PL90ABE5B3A18AE604
Granted it is not a ski boat but it can be done for sure with two 300s.
It has everything else we want, in spades.
I totally "get" why people like to sail but you really have to love it to buy a sailboat. We just want to get from point A to point B quickly and safely. The beauty of this boat is how easy it is to maintain and keep clean. It was built to be hosed off to clean off fish guts and blood. This will make wine and beer spills a breeze. hehe
As to the comments on Boston Whalers....if I wasn't so keen on the Cat design I'd probably be looking at one. Quite possibly the best salt water boat there is and it is certainly reflected in their price.
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But not today....today we golf.
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We are designing a 98' cat right now for the loop.
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Yeah nah curval - any boat brochure with ZERO bikini's says that boat must really suck.
What you should be looking for is this kind of boat:
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There's no room on that boat for anything. Fast speed boats are fine and dandy but I can live without the bimbos.
Good thing I am getting a boat, worst round of golf I have ever played on Sunday. I had some surgery last week and took the last pain killer Saturday morning. On Sunday I sweat out all of the remnants of that stuff...Oxycodone??? I hope my game was the result of coming off that stuff, I felt horrible all day.
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Never cared for outboards, always seem to be too needy..
And expensive..
For me, in a 24ish ft cruiser, should have a 454 or a 460..
I like the KISS principle, nothin fancy for a Cruiser..
Simple straightforward reliability of automotive engineering..
"Ski boat" is a whole nother animal.. But I'd still prefer Auto
engineering over an outboard.. Like a 350 with a sterndrive..
Nice boats in the pics tho..
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You are the first person I have ever seen state that outboards are too needy and would prefer inboards.
To begin with you should pull an in board powered boat out of the water every year to simply ensure the seals are sound and they rarely are (salt water is BRUTAL on seals)....it is a $5,000 annual expense unless you want to risk ruining the engine(s) and or sinking. That is BEFORE any other mechanical consideration. If water does get in and anywhere near the electrics then you have even bigger problems.
No way. Outboards or forget it.
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You are the first person I have ever seen state that outboards are too needy and would prefer inboards.
To begin with you should pull an in board powered boat out of the water every year to simply ensure the seals are sound and they rarely are (salt water is BRUTAL on seals)....it is a $5,000 annual expense unless you want to risk ruining the engine(s) and or sinking. That is BEFORE any other mechanical consideration. If water does get in and anywhere near the electrics then you have even bigger problems.
No way. Outboards or forget it.
Heck, all it costs me is the price of the seals, lol..
edit: And a little elbow grease..
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Heck, all it costs me is the price of the seals, lol..
edit: And a little elbow grease..
Yes, well I am no mechanic. All very easy to say when you are a mechanic with all of the right equipment and tools. You must have a boat yard to store and work on the boat too and have the right equipment to to be able to pull a 30' boat out of the water at no cost.
Good for you.
For those of us without your skills and access to equipment an inboard engine is nothing short of a nightmare and to be avoided at all costs.
The only elbow grease I intend on needing is some ben-gay to rub on the elbows from all the 12 oz curls....and to operate a hose. :cheers:
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talking about large boats; Costa Concordia is slowly rotated upright;; interesting, engineers from 24 countries came with this idea , pumping water in a huge side tank to balance the ship; looks like works :aok
live cam here;
http://www.livestation.com/reuters?source=redirect
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This one has enough room for a dozen or so bikini-clad females. If I had even part ownership I wouldn't be looking for a way to get out of it:
(http://www.hnsa.org/ships/img/pt658a.jpg)
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Yes, I can get a boat out of the water, up to a 24..
But anything bigger, and the customer can arrange to
use the Marina Facilities.. I have all the A/frames and
Trusses for the heavy work.. Been in the mechanic biz
a long time.. Pretty much retired now. And we live in a
seaside town.. So we have seen lots of Boats over time..
My youngest son has been to Mercury school 3 times..
Out/In and Marine Diesel.. Has a Mercury master
certificate hanging on his wall.. He is the guy that you
BOAT "Break Out Another Thousand" for, lol..
He travels on the west coast, San Diego to Seattle..
Makes a good living from it too..
He says the same thing I say, fuel and maintenance on
an outboard dwarfs an Automotive type powerplant..
But its cool, different strokes, enjoy the beerz :cheers:
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Here's a video of the type of boat we are looking at. We won't be looking for one with a tower. All of that storage you can change from fishing poles to waterskis and bait wells and fish holding tanks....lots of ice. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrJRbSK5rkQ&list=PL90ABE5B3A18AE604
Granted it is not a ski boat but it can be done for sure with two 300s.
It has everything else we want, in spades.
I totally "get" why people like to sail but you really have to love it to buy a sailboat. We just want to get from point A to point B quickly and safely. The beauty of this boat is how easy it is to maintain and keep clean. It was built to be hosed off to clean off fish guts and blood. This will make wine and beer spills a breeze. hehe
As to the comments on Boston Whalers....if I wasn't so keen on the Cat design I'd probably be looking at one. Quite possibly the best salt water boat there is and it is certainly reflected in their price.
Assuming a pair of 300 hp outboards running 3/4 throttle to full throttle, that is about 16 gallons/hour per engine, depending on prop, weight in boat, conditions of the water, currents, tides, etc.
The boat you posted holds 260 gallons of fuel.
~ $7.00/gallon on the water (price was from last weekend in Earleville, MD) Georgetown Yacht Basin, area.
About a $1500 top off average if you don't run the tanks dry every time.
So, about every 10-12 hours, you are feeding the beast to the tune of $1500
I hope you catch lots of fish :D
I'll keep my sails, I was out for 5 hours this weekend. It didn't cost me a dime AND we caught some fish :devil
In all seriousness, best of luck to ya. :aok
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@ RngFndr LOL So he has no vested interest in saying that...
I agree with what MY mechanic says: The less holes needed in a boat the better.
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Assuming a pair of 300 hp outboards running 3/4 throttle to full throttle, that is about 16 gallons/hour per engine, depending on prop, weight in boat, conditions of the water, currents, tides, etc.
The boat you posted holds 260 gallons of fuel.
~ $7.00/gallon on the water (price was from last weekend in Earleville, MD) Georgetown Yacht Basin, area.
About a $1500 top off average if you don't run the tanks dry every time.
So, about every 10-12 hours, you are feeding the beast to the tune of $1500
I hope you catch lots of fish :D
I'll keep my sails, I was out for 5 hours this weekend. It didn't cost me a dime AND we caught some fish :devil
In all seriousness, best of luck to ya. :aok
It's an expensive toy, no doubt.
If I couldn't afford it I wouldn't buy one. It is that simple.
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It's an expensive toy, no doubt.
If I couldn't afford it I wouldn't buy one. It is that simple.
Gasoline is an expensve habit :D
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Do you drive a car or is it wind powered? ;)
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Do you drive a car or is it wind powered? ;)
Unless you live in Venice, Italy, I doubt driving a boat to work becomes a necessity. :D
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Unless you live in Venice, Italy, I doubt driving a boat to work becomes a necessity. :D
True, but I would expect that he would not then use his car for anything recreational, or fly anywhere....because gas is an addiction and all. :devil
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True, but I would expect that he would not then use his car for anything recreational, or fly anywhere....because gas is an addiction and all. :devil
Actually, some people can't afford recreational vehicles anymore (or use them sparingly) because of the cost of gasoline. No,really. It's true.
The cost of gasoline can make frivolous use of it diminish. Even people with the means are becoming more fuel miserly. I've seen it and I
live in one of the more affluent small cities in the DFW area. Hardly a single Hummer in this town anymore. :aok
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I love sailing. I've sailed for 45 years now. I've owned plenty of powerboats too but it just isn't as much fun for me. Powerboats are easier, yes, but after roaring around in one, unless you actually have a destination, some place your are trying to get to for a particular reason, it just gets old for me. Sailing on the other hand certainly allows me to get to a destination if I want to also. But just sailing around never gets old for me. Maybe it is because you have to work the boat to make it go, not just turn the key and push the throttle(s) forward. You have to constantly watch the wind, your heading off the wind, the position of the boom and the sails and keep her trimmed. Currently I live in Phoenix but my brother and I share a 60' sailboat that is docked at the Southwestern Yacht club in San Diego. Some day I want to retire and live on that boat and at that time I will buy my brother out. He and I get along really well and have never had any issues with co-ownership. We split everything right down the middle, boat payments, maintenance, dock fees and the minute amount of fuel we do burn that we use to take the boat in and out of the harbor. He lives in San Diego, LaJolla actually, he's a Captain with Northwest Airlines), Sailing along with only the sound of the wind in your sales, the splash of the water as you cleave the way through the water, pretty girls, sunshine and wind, that's all I need. Actually just the wind, the other two, meh.
We got this boat quite awhile ago when my father passed away. Everything else he had, 2 planes, motorcycles, cars, and real estate we sold off and the money went into a family trust for my brother, my 2 sisters and myself to share when we retire. We also purchased the boat (financed), and that money went into the family trust also. My father was going to sail the world on that boat but passed away just before he retired so he never got that chance. He did get to sail it alot with us and that is also a big part of the appeal I am sure.
My brother and I do regret selling off his Decathalon and his hanger he owned at Montgomery field in San Diego. The other plane was a Mooney.
The one powerboat that I really loved and miss was a '70's 16 foot Donzi with a 351 Holman-Moody. That thing was really fun to roar around in but pretty useless otherwise.
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True, but I would expect that he would not then use his car for anything recreational, or fly anywhere....because gas is an addiction and all. :devil
Sadly, I have actually not used my vehicle for recreation in a while, nor have I flown. I will be towing the boat for a race in Norfolk, this weekend. almost 400 miles, one way.
Glad that only the Jeep needs gas :D
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OK OK
I am not buying a sailboat.
Full stop.
I know plenty of people who do.
In fact the last time I was on one was last summer. I was invited out by someone with a 50' boat. I remember thinking as we got close to the dock on the way back that I could probably swim faster than the boat was going and actually considered putting all the stuff I brought into a plastic bag and trying it, that is how desperate I was to get off. Nothing to do with sailing in that case though to be fair, it was the company.
I want to relax and enjoy the damn thing, not work my bellybutton off hauling lines and cleaning and packing sails. Glad you guys enjoy it, I don't.
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OK OK
I am not buying a sailboat.
Full stop.
I know plenty of people who do.
In fact the last time I was on one was last summer. I was invited out by someone with a 50' boat. I remember thinking as we got close to the dock on the way back that I could probably swim faster than the boat was going and actually considered putting all the stuff I brought into a plastic bag and trying it, that is how desperate I was to get off. Nothing to do with sailing in that case though to be fair, it was the company.
I want to relax and enjoy the damn thing, not work my bellybutton off hauling lines and cleaning and packing sails. Glad you guys enjoy it, I don't.
I have encountered this phenomenon, before. :lol
As far as relaxing goes, that is what crew is for, especially when the crew is a pair of bikini-clad women. :D
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I had 5 boats thru the years. Nothing fancy, only fishing boats, but big enough to have spent a fortune on not only them but all the fishing gear. I'd be retired right now had I saved the money instead of spending it on the boats and gear, the trips, the gas, the tow vehicle....ect
And you know what? I dont regret one thing about it. I'd do it again in a heart beat. Life is short and a nice boat and time on the water with friends and family are one of the pay offs. I had a partner who was as close as a brother to me. He loved fishing as much as I and we spent many thousands of hours together fishing all over the country for many years. God called him home at 56 years of age but if not for boats and fishing I'd have far fewer memories of him. So I say get that boat and squeeze every bit of good times out of life with your family and friends as you can.
Ron and I sure did. :salute
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OK OK
I am not buying a sailboat.
Full stop.
I know plenty of people who do.
In fact the last time I was on one was last summer. I was invited out by someone with a 50' boat. I remember thinking as we got close to the dock on the way back that I could probably swim faster than the boat was going and actually considered putting all the stuff I brought into a plastic bag and trying it, that is how desperate I was to get off. Nothing to do with sailing in that case though to be fair, it was the company.
I want to relax and enjoy the damn thing, not work my bellybutton off hauling lines and cleaning and packing sails. Glad you guys enjoy it, I don't.
I totally understand! It's the reason I never mentioned a blowboat after my first post,they aren't for you.
I will repeat myself though,get the biggest and best built boat you can afford! Nothing is worse than looking over and say Dang I wish I'd have gotten one of those!
Even moreso when you drop a couple of K to begin with!!! You might forego the odd option as somethings are just rediculess but you cant get enough quality,fit and finish can mean a lot on boats,whether it's a blowboat or motorboat.... Ya like like to motorboat too but I'd rather sail if I'm on the water..... :devil
Be sure to post pix when you get it,must have bikini clad women in it though!
:salute
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I own a boat...Bass fishing Boat....
Good luck on your decision and your choice!!!
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My buddies Cat..(The IKAT)...Ive fished off alot of platforms in my life....Jupiters, Bertrams, Blackfins, Parkers, Hollowell Custom Carolinas etc etc etc But his Cat is by far one of the best fishing platform ive ever been on........cuts thru snotty water like glass, absolutely made to fish...we go about 70 miles offshore to the canyons and she works flawlessly....every time.... Good luck with yours,
He runs twin Evinrude 300s
I can say 100% that you will love the ride that WorldCat gives you :aok
Before the detailing he had done
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After....that is all airbrushed...not a decal
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That is sweet.
Mike wants a blue hull, not sure why but he is fixated on it. I think that will be the first thing we'll have done if we don't buy one with it already blue. I've seen a few online and they do look cool.
I spoke to the mooring maintenance company yesterday, they are going out to inspect it and do any necessary maintenance. Turns out the mooring is an insurable one which means it will be fully covered if a hurricane hits and we can't get it out of the water (if we are both away or something). He asked what kind of boat and when I told him he was full of praise for them.
Morfiend, not to worry. We will be maxing out the budget. In fact the budget doubled from day 1 to what it is now because we both liked the 32' boat. My wife looks good in a bikini and so does Mike's actually. We both have daughters, but they too young. That will likely be the extent of bikini clad women on board most of the time. :)
Rich..."And you know what? I dont regret one thing about it. I'd do it again in a heart beat. Life is short and a nice boat and time on the water with friends and family are one of the pay offs." ZING!!!! That is exactly it!!
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See ya in 2014 sir....good luck :aok
http://www.bermudatriplecrown.com/
Best advice i can give:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/no_bananas_toon_zps073984a8.jpg)
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Not sure if you are serious about coming here for the 2014 tournament, but if you are at all you'll have a place to crash and I am sure I could get you on one of the boats of you don't already have a spot. :aok
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Here... :rock
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/RedTop1/09D8721B-8F71-45AC-BBFD-E9EBD7C87A4F-1163-000001803EC69BE7.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/RedTop1/media/09D8721B-8F71-45AC-BBFD-E9EBD7C87A4F-1163-000001803EC69BE7.jpg.html)
Then you can do this...
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/RedTop1/76979_4338876106257_552791535_n_zps52fb74e6.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/RedTop1/media/76979_4338876106257_552791535_n_zps52fb74e6.jpg.html)
To catch these...
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/RedTop1/IMG_0405.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/RedTop1/media/IMG_0405.jpg.html)
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Nice! :aok
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Check out Bahama Boats, one of the finest in quality construction that I have seen. Locally made in Jupiter, Florida.
http://www.bahamaboatworks.com/bahama-37/
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Check out Bahama Boats, one of the finest in quality construction that I have seen. Locally made in Jupiter, Florida.
http://www.bahamaboatworks.com/bahama-37/
Looks like a good day sailor for any fisherman, but I'd never recommend that type of boat for a family with youngish kids wanting to get out of the sun and wind.
Just saying.
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Check out Bahama Boats, one of the finest in quality construction that I have seen. Locally made in Jupiter, Florida.
http://www.bahamaboatworks.com/bahama-37/
Nice boat but for the price of that bahama-37(US$ 327,900), http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2014/Bahama-37-2642563/United-States#.UjkX2D-DUoo
I'd rather have this http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1998-Ocean-Yachts-Super-Sport-Convertible-101741924
(http://images7.boattrader.com/resize/1/4/22/3930422_20130509143454287_2_LARGE.jpg?w=640&h=480&t=1149032)
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Before you write the cheque,look at this! go big or stay home!!! :devil
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?sponsored=true&units=Feet&checked_boats=2498487&slim=broker&&hosturl=alliedmarine&ywo=alliedmarine
:salute
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Before you write the cheque,look at this! go big or stay home!!! :devil
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?sponsored=true&units=Feet&checked_boats=2498487&slim=broker&&hosturl=alliedmarine&ywo=alliedmarine
:salute
Out of my league. Way out. :)
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Before you write the cheque,look at this! go big or stay home!!! :devil
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?sponsored=true&units=Feet&checked_boats=2498487&slim=broker&&hosturl=alliedmarine&ywo=alliedmarine
:salute
Thats nice and all.......but where do you cut the bait? :lol
Not sure if you are serious about coming here for the 2014 tournament, but if you are at all you'll have a place to crash and I am sure I could get you on one of the boats of you don't already have a spot. :aok
Thanks sir :aok I was down for the 2010, 2011, 2012 tourny...missed this year tho, we just purchased a new house, and thats been taking up most of our time... I fish my buddies 62' Custom Carolina...nice outfit for sure Will absolutely look you up next year tho...first round is on me.....oh how i miss looking thru my empty glass of Goslings at the Bermuda sunset :lol
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Nice boat but for the price of that bahama-37(US$ 327,900), http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2014/Bahama-37-2642563/United-States#.UjkX2D-DUoo
I'd rather have this http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1998-Ocean-Yachts-Super-Sport-Convertible-101741924
(http://images7.boattrader.com/resize/1/4/22/3930422_20130509143454287_2_LARGE.jpg?w=640&h=480&t=1149032)
I tell you right now...that boat will NOT get in some spots I need to get to , to catch bass....LOLOL :neener:
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(http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/66470/photos/PHOTO_10773476_66470_21767828_ap.jpg)
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(http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/66470/photos/PHOTO_10773476_66470_21767828_ap.jpg)
1964 Wheeler :D nice boat (although the one on the beach was just a prop made on set.
always made me laugh that they could make a radio out of coconuts, but couldnt patch the boats hull :rofl
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Thats nice and all.......but where do you cut the bait? :lol
Thanks sir :aok I was down for the 2010, 2011, 2012 tourny...missed this year tho, we just purchased a new house, and thats been taking up most of our time... I fish my buddies 62' Custom Carolina...nice outfit for sure Will absolutely look you up next year tho...first round is on me.....oh how i miss looking thru my empty glass of Goslings at the Bermuda sunset :lol
I guess I wasn't posting here during that time because had I known that I'm sure we'd be fast friends by now.
You BETTER get in touch next time. :) I guess you stay on the boat, but if you'd be welcome to stay with us should you want some dry land under your feet. Hopefully I'll have the boat I gotta say, sourcing the right one isn't easy. The WorldCats are really popular. I was asked if I could settle for a 29' as a certain Mayor in your country who has a home here is likely selling his and upgrading to a larger boat. Dunno, we'll see. We will golf, we will eat we will drink and we will be merry. :)
I actually had a conversation with someone yesterday who pretty much backed up what RngFndr was saying about inboards though oddly enough, but he clarified and said inboard diesels are the way to go with any boat over 30'. BUT, he is a diesel mechanic too, as is his son, and boating is his business as well. He does charters, tours etc etc. He also raised the cost of fuel issue. He did admit though that it was easy for him to say because he services his own boats. Here I'd be a total slave to only a few qualified people and could have massive delays on getting any work done. One of them, for example, has the knickname "Hardly Working"...which is a play on his name and his work ethic.
I hate the smell of diesel though. Hate it. The moment I smell it my stomach churns and my body seems to have the memory of being seasick when deep seas fishing the few times I've been. I'll be going out a maximum of 2 or 3 miles if we go fishing in the future though and if I get sick, it's my boat, in we go! :) Seventy miles out is just unnecessary here. We have some of the biggest "drop offs" in the world and deep water is not far at all.
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You are going to like that one!
The two best days of boat ownership.
- the day you bought it
- the day you sold it
BOAT stands for Break Out Another Thousand.
:D
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/TurkeyHunter65/Lund1.jpg)
Boats are a money pit but I would not trade my 22 footer for anything well maybe a 40 footer .
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I guess I wasn't posting here during that time because had I known that I'm sure we'd be fast friends by now.
You BETTER get in touch next time. :) I guess you stay on the boat, but if you'd be welcome to stay with us should you want some dry land under your feet. Hopefully I'll have the boat I gotta say, sourcing the right one isn't easy. The WorldCats are really popular. I was asked if I could settle for a 29' as a certain Mayor in your country who has a home here is likely selling his and upgrading to a larger boat. Dunno, we'll see. We will golf, we will eat we will drink and we will be merry. :)
Sounds like a deal I have the eat, drink and be merry down pat.........but technically you will golf....while I will hit a little white ball around, and walk diagonally away from the spot said ball was supposed to go :rofl
Boats are a money pit but I would not trade my 22 footer for anything well maybe a 40 footer .
Thats the spirit!!! Only a true boat person would make a comment like that :rofl :rofl :aok
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@ RngFndr LOL So he has no vested interest in saying that...
I agree with what MY mechanic says: The less holes needed in a boat the better.
Son called home last night, I told him about
this topic, he clicked on the BB to read it..
Got a laugh outta this thread..
He saw the pic of the 4 outies on the boat..
He said, "Now that is a glutton for punishment!"
About outboards, he just said,
"I love outboards, just means more money for me!"
About "Less holes in a boat the better"
He said, "Remember to replace your bilge plug!"
Right now he is in a California shop working on the
computer engine controls on a 4 x V8 offshore boat..
Cha'ching $$$$$$$$$$
LOL.. Lastly he said,
"You know Boats are like a**holes dad, no matter
how big yours is, there is always a bigger one.."
Dats my boy!
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Did you read my entire post or are you just content with saying "I told you so"?
Perhaps you missed this:
"He did admit though that it was easy for him to say because he services his own boats. Here I'd be a total slave to only a few qualified people and could have massive delays on getting any work done. One of them, for example, has the knickname "Hardly Working"...which is a play on his name and his work ethic."
Does the bolded part sound familiar?
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I am the trustee for my mechanic as already stated. It is a discretionary trust. While he may have influence over fixing my boat, I have a great deal of influence on his future wealth, or lack thereof.
So, I won't have some greedy mechanic drooling at the thought of all the money he'll make from me. We'll have a nice cozy arrangement, with BOTH of us hanging on to each other's short and curlies.
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@Curval
Hey it's OK man.. Just got a kick out of his comments..
Sounds like an Arrangement with a boat mechanic is the way to go..
I've had "Arrangements" with boat owners, but they were working boats..
One thing is Right tho.. Expensive toys, but if ya got the $$$$$$$
to throw down the hole, might as well enjoy it, before the bottom falls out..
Zalduta :salute
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Understood. I took your initial comments to heart and if I didn't think your knowledge meant anything I would have never raised it again and would have stayed quiet about this man's agreeement with your thoughts....I appreciate any and all advice and if I am wrong or even partially wrong I will admit it.
This is a bit of an odd situation though and all factors have to be taken into consideration.
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When I turn 80 I mite let a mechanic work on my boat . lol . I do my own work .
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When I turn 80 I mite let a mechanic work on my boat . lol . I do my own work .
Just finished painting the nose art on mine for the race, this weekend.
Don't laugh. Dammit, Jim!. I'm a brewer, not an arteest!
http://s239.photobucket.com/user/tymekeepyr/slideshow/Boat/Nose%20Art
(http://s239.photobucket.com/user/tymekeepyr/slideshow/Boat/Nose%20Art)
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Just finished painting the nose art on mine for the race, this weekend.
Don't laugh. Dammit, Jim!. I'm a brewer, not an arteest!
http://s239.photobucket.com/user/tymekeepyr/slideshow/Boat/Nose%20Art
(http://s239.photobucket.com/user/tymekeepyr/slideshow/Boat/Nose%20Art)
Hey that's cool ....
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Hey that's cool ....
I agree. Very cool.
This used to be owned by my brother in law (he's seated calmly near the back, I am one of the people waving my arms in the air), he now owns a WorldCat. I'd like to do something along these lines.
(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa409/Christopher_Morris/NewWildcat-Side_000_zps3927c607.jpg)
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I agree. Very cool.
This used to be owned by my brother in law (he's seated calmly near the back, I am one of the people waving my arms in the air), he now owns a WorldCat. I'd like to do something along these lines.
(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa409/Christopher_Morris/NewWildcat-Side_000_zps3927c607.jpg)
I like that boat stile , cool . How many people well that thing hold ? wow . My 22 footer will not hold but 8 .
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I like that boat stile , cool . How many people well that thing hold ? wow . My 22 footer will not hold but 8 .
I don't remember how many, probably about 50 or 60. They did "round the island" tours on it but have since sold it on. It was alot of fun though, the thing moved!!! They'd put on some good tunes and we rocked all the way around. :rock
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I don't remember how many, probably about 50 or 60. They did "round the island" tours on it but have since sold it on. It was alot of fun though, the thing moved!!! They'd put on some good tunes and we rocked all the way around. :rock
But where do you cut the bait? :D
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But where do you cut the bait? :D
Damn dude, you have a one track mind. lol :)
I'll help you with golf (as best I can) and you can help me with fishing. Be cool to have someone show me how to rig a line for some big tuna, use outriggers properly etc. I honestly don't have a clue. My only real experiences (prior to hurling for the rest of the day) in fishing for the big stuff involved people handing me a rod and strapping me in the chair.
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Watch this short documentary about boats by Dr. Steve Brule before you make your decision. I found it very informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CMsZYZ3_o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CMsZYZ3_o)
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Watch this short documentary about boats by Dr. Steve Brule before you make your decision. I found it very informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CMsZYZ3_o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CMsZYZ3_o)
I will do so, thanks
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Back in the day, raced a boat like this,
(http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40186&stc=1&d=1289874084)
Low 80s with a stock 75hp OMC motor.
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I use to have the same motor ,lol . That thing was some kind of heavy .
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Was the crash helmet useful?
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Back in the day, raced a boat like this,
(http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40186&stc=1&d=1289874084)
Low 80s with a stock 75hp OMC motor.
Sweet Milo! Ever get a chance to race up on Georgian Bay? Oh and do you remember the seaflea series?
Helmet came in handy on those! very easy to flip!
:salute
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Damn dude, you have a one track mind. lol :)
I'll help you with golf (as best I can) and you can help me with fishing. Be cool to have someone show me how to rig a line for some big tuna, use outriggers properly etc. I honestly don't have a clue. My only real experiences (prior to hurling for the rest of the day) in fishing for the big stuff involved people handing me a rod and strapping me in the chair.
LOL I resemble that remark :D
Glad to help in any way i can..... :aok
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Sweet Milo! Ever get a chance to race up on Georgian Bay? Oh and do you remember the seaflea series?
Helmet came in handy on those! very easy to flip!
:salute
No morf never had a race up there but did race a few times in your neck of the woods > Welland and Cambridge. Blew the boat over backwards in Miami (trimmed too high and caught a gust off the stadium).
Was Canadian High Points champion in the boat.
The other boat I raced was a 13' fiberglass V bottom powered by a stock 75hp OMC which would do around 65mph. They were hairy boats to drive as the only part of the boat touching the water was the last foot or so of the bottom and the half the lower unit of the motor. No motor trim either. :x
Seafleas. Never had one but there was quite a few at the cottage.
Ever been to Detroit to watch the Unlimited run?
(http://ocphotographics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Unlimited-Hydro-01.jpg)
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curval, good choice of boat, cats are always better and more fuel efficient then a monohull. good in heavy weather, and easy to manuever. take it from a professional captain. good luck and best wishes!! ps ocean yachts, while nice boats, suck as far as heavy weather. ive fished them, i know!
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Watch this short documentary about boats by Dr. Steve Brule before you make your decision. I found it very informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CMsZYZ3_o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CMsZYZ3_o)
LOL!!!
I gotta show that to my wife.
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Here he is at the fertility clinic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBcKAg4bDQo
I couldn't help but remember my post vasectomy "test"...I had to bring in a sample. Unfortunately I didn't screw the top on tightly and when I pulled it out of my very wet pocket and put it on the counter (where it left a ring) the nurse looked up and sort of went "Oh my God...ewwww" and told me I needed to get another because it wasn't enough. I asked if she could throw away the bottle on the counter for me and she went to reach for it, stopped and then pointed at a trash can across the room. Had to go home and change. LOL
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Back in the day, raced a boat like this,
(http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40186&stc=1&d=1289874084)
Low 80s with a stock 75hp OMC motor.
I used to watch boats like that and crackerbox class race in Seattle back in the 70's. Very cool stuff.
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No morf never had a race up there but did race a few times in your neck of the woods > Welland and Cambridge. Blew the boat over backwards in Miami (trimmed too high and caught a gust off the stadium).
Was Canadian High Points champion in the boat.
The other boat I raced was a 13' fiberglass V bottom powered by a stock 75hp OMC which would do around 65mph. They were hairy boats to drive as the only part of the boat touching the water was the last foot or so of the bottom and the half the lower unit of the motor. No motor trim either. :x
Seafleas. Never had one but there was quite a few at the cottage.
Ever been to Detroit to watch the Unlimited run?
(http://ocphotographics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Unlimited-Hydro-01.jpg)
I grew up on Georgian Bay! And yes I've seen plenty of the unlimited but back when they ran Merlins and Allisons! My Dad was friends with the owner of Miss Sunoco and years later I worked in a shop that had Guy Lumbardo's unlimited,cant recall it's name.
Since they've been running turbines I lost interest. There was quite abit of racing in your class going on, on the "Bay" back then,thought I might have seen you !
A buddy of mine did tech inspection on the drag boats that run on lake Fanshaw,so I used to go hang around that quite a lot.
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So, my buddy and I went to see a boat today that we both agree is a serious possibility.
Pursuit 315 offshore. 2011 with twin 300s that only have 80 hours on them.
The thing is basically brand new, still smells new.
Not a World Cat but similar look and has more room in the cabin. Very very sweet boat.
We may have found the one.
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So, my buddy and I went to see a boat today that we both agree is a serious possibility.
Pursuit 315 offshore. 2011 with twin 300s that only have 80 hours on them.
The thing is basically brand new, still smells new.
Not a World Cat but similar look and has more room in the cabin. Very very sweet boat.
We may have found the one.
Thats cool,ready to put under the tree for Xmas....... :salute
Oh and Bailey,you asked where you cut bait on the boat I linked too,of course you dont cut bait,thats the butlers duty,same with reeling in those smelly fish..... :devil
Cocktails at noon eh!
:salute
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I have two boats for sale, 34ft Searay EC Cruiser (400 hours on pair of 454 engines) and a 34 Luhr's Sportsman fishing boat (with Cat diesels).
right now price is $15,000 for Searay and $30,000 for Luhrs, dumping them to buy a house in Montana. Basically the reason im selling, I haven't seen either boat in 4 years since I started my business and they've been eating me up in deadstorage fee's.
/going to move them soon with railroad ties, but until then im stuck
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rent for two years....if your renting still exceeds your monthly payment then buy. Just like airplanes...if it has a prop then its gonna cost you a lot. Dont forget the trailer is a whole other aspect to a boat. Think if I get a boat then I have another car to worry about.
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Thats cool,ready to put under the tree for Xmas....... :salute
Well, while we are actually VERY interested the guy who showed us the boat would have walked away from our meeting yesterday thinking there is no way we will even make an offer on it. We acted as if we were only there to compare it to a world cat.
There is a story behind this boat:
Bought brand new in 2011 it was brought to the island and used for a few months before the owner decided he wanted a bigger boat and he sold it to a partner in a local law firm here. On the first day the new owner (who didn't know boats at all and who had merely had some instruction on how to drive it) decided to take out the family and was backing out of his berth when he suddenly realised he was going way too fast. He then made the critical mistake of giving in to panic and threw the throttles forward. Problem is, there is very little tension on these electronically controlled throttles (fly-by-wire, not actual cables) and the twin 300s roared into life and the boat reared, almost throwing everyone off the back of the boat and he slammed into a brand new multi-million dollar sport fishing boat, briefly mounting it (and bending the tower) before slipping back into the water. The owner of the big boat was on it at the time and told the owner of this boat that he wasn't going ANYWHERE until the accident was dealt with legally, for the large insurance claim that was bound to be a fact soon. The lawyer protested claiming he was a partner in a large law firm and could be trusted, to which the fishing boat owner said "Oh, you are a lawyer? All the more reason to stay put. You can meet mine in about 10 minutes."
As a result of this accident, which only caused some gel coat damage to the Pursuit, which was fixed up with no adverse effect on the boat, the lawyer is completely terrified of boats and wants nothing more to do with them. He told the broker to "get rid of it".
That's where we come in.
We joked with the broker that the previous owner should look upon the boat as a horse and that he needs to "get right back on". But the incident really scared him and he is highly motivated to dump it apparently. So, for now we wait. Probably a month or so, before going back with an insultingly low offer. By that time it will be Jan/Feb and it is a time when nobody buys boats here....except guys like us. :) I just paid the bill to have the mooring completely overhauled and recertified as hurricane insurable. Only thing we have left to do on that is to fit a bridle...for now the mooring guy is letting us borrow one in case we buy a boat quickly. Afterwards he'll put on a new one for us. We are totally ready and prepared. The boat bank account is open and funded.
If the boat is sold in the meantime, sobeit. We'll find another one.
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I had gotten bitten by the gofast boat bug as a super young kid taking rides on "flying saucer" which was a converted PT boat operated by Chris Montagna who owned "chris's restaurant" in ocean city, new jersey where my family has spent 2 or 3 weeks vacation since the late 40s.
We would set up HQ at the sindia hotel and various family members would cycle through for a few days at a time but I was lucky a few times to spend the entire 3 weeks there with very little supervision and ended up biking to where the boat was being readied for the season after an explosion the year before.
I quickly learned that bilges are a double edged sword of awesomeness and hard work but got a master's course in engine systems, spark control, and supercharging from the old man who had gotten so much horsepower from the engines that the coast guard decided his boat was too fast and ordered him to tone down his thrill rides.
Like any good gearhead, he refused to slow down and instead closed down the ride the next year.
http://moldville.com/files/45470752.wmv (http://moldville.com/files/45470752.wmv)
(http://www.bdssystems.com/OCNJsaucer4gail[1]9.jpg)
The next year, I found myself biking to the Miami marine stadium to volunteer work in the pits of any speedboat race that occurred and did so for a number of years picking up experience in anything from jersey skiffs to full on unlimited hydroplanes.
I later ended up as a marine mechanic for hatteras of Lauderdale and service manager for full tilt marine near Washington DC.
The only boats I have owned were a sunflower (Styrofoam hull covered with vinyl), a sunfish, and two action marines one a super rare 15 footer and a 17 footer......neither of which I ever ran......but I sure did a lot of work on them.
I now live next to loggerhead marina in west palm beach and could well end up feeling the gravitational pull drag me into working there on some pretty awesome boats but I'm currently still working (feast or famine) on cars like the one below and still use the knowledge the old man in jersey gave to me.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7376/11370647766_ea3b07c78a_c.jpg)
The jersey shore might be the butt of jokes nowadays but it was the coolest place on earth from the turn of the 20th century to the late 80s and I still go every year to get my ski-ball, pinball, miniature golf, and arcade fix.
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I know a guy who has a place at the PGA resort and have been up in West Palm many times. Shame I didn't know you were there, I would have stopped in to say hello. We used to drive up from our place in Miami. We decided to rent our house there now and have done so, for at least 3 years, so eventually I'll shout out to you if/when I am going to be in town.
If you, or any of you for that matter, ever come to Bermuda let me know. I have met a few people from this board here and in the US. Enjoyed meeting each and every one of them.
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rent for two years....if your renting still exceeds your monthly payment then buy. Just like airplanes...if it has a prop then its gonna cost you a lot. Dont forget the trailer is a whole other aspect to a boat. Think if I get a boat then I have another car to worry about.
Turbines are cheaper? :O
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icepac, I raced at the Miami marine stadium in Feb 1979.
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In 1979, I believed I helped out with "miss patco" which was owned by an air traffic controller who's son was a friend of mine.
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I know a guy who has a place at the PGA resort and have been up in West Palm many times. Shame I didn't know you were there, I would have stopped in to say hello. We used to drive up from our place in Miami. We decided to rent our house there now and have done so, for at least 3 years, so eventually I'll shout out to you if/when I am going to be in town.
If you, or any of you for that matter, ever come to Bermuda let me know. I have met a few people from this board here and in the US. Enjoyed meeting each and every one of them.
I'm contemplating a move to either DC area, Atlanta, California, or possibly some place near AMARG since I am at a point where I can make a big change pretty easily and tired of the feast or famine earnings in the current exotic car business.
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Now I am glad I didn't meet you, I'd be looking to sell an exotic car instead of a relatively cheap Camaro. lol :) :cheers:
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We put an offer in on the Pursuit just before Christmas and heard NOTHING. So we kept looking. This past Sunday I was playing golf with a guy who said he knew of a 30' Grady White with all kinds of bells and whistles on it, that was up for sale and the guy is desperate to get rid of it because he needs the cash. I contacted him and he sent over the specs etc. Beautiful boat. So, my buddy sends the broker an email on Monday, just before we were hooking up for lunch, telling him that we are moving on after not hearing anything and that we were putting an offer in on something else. Sure enough, as we are sitting waiting to put our lunch order in, his phone rings. The broker had some major difficulties contacting the owner and said that the owner of the Pursuit was interested and wanted to counter our offer. Today (2 minutes ago) he sent an email saying he has spoken to the owner and for my buddy to call him.
Just got an email that the counter was a bit high and that we are countering the counter.
May own a boat in a few minutes.
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Thats cool,ready to put under the tree for Xmas....... :salute
Oh and Bailey,you asked where you cut bait on the boat I linked too,of course you dont cut bait,thats the butlers duty,same with reeling in those smelly fish..... :devil
Cocktails at noon eh!
:salute
:rofl :rofl :aok
Yea its gets old comming home smelling like a French Brothel :D
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Well, if anyone is following my "saga"....we were back and forth with offers and counter offers and we sent in our FINAL FINAL last week. The guy countered again!!! So, we told him we are 50/50 on it and that we'll need some time to weigh up all the options we currently have. ie No.
He needs to come down to our level, We are not going any higher. Cash is KING!
The search continues.
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This is the one we have been looking at:
(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa409/Christopher_Morris/IMG-20140105-00067_zps3bab87fa.jpg)
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Nice little skiff thee Cur.! :aok
How far apart are you on price,if you dont mind me asking?
If it's more than 10% then I'd sit back and look some more,if it's near 10% I'd offer another 2% and then ask if he's willing to hang on to it for what amounts to a months birth...... :D
Carrying a small metal briefcase can have a great effect,of course I'd only have a cheque in it but he wont know that until the deal is done..... as you said cash is king!!!!!!
Bought my last car sort of like that,figured out how much I wanted to pay,taxes included and got a certified cheque for that amount,deal tried to squeeze another $800 out of me and I said I have the cheque made out,it's this amount,if you dont sell me the car I'll go somewhere else and handed him the cheque!
The dealer principle came in and I asked if it was worth 800 to loose a sale?
Next day I picked up my car!!! End of month,late friday afternoon!!! :aok
:salute
PS: both my wife and I worked at dealerships in the past!!!
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I don't mind.
Let's have your opinion.
New it was landed here for $350,000 in late 2010.
The guy's asking is $225,000
Our final offer was $195,000, his final final is $200,000
We are only 5k apart.
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Bear in mind...if we were to buy this in the US (and the price he is asking is about in-line with US prices) we would then have to ship it here and pay 30% duty.
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My boat is a 2002 SeaRay 240 Sundancer. I'm the second owner, bought it from the original owner in 2003 after he figured out it wasn't a very good ski boat :rolleyes:. Guy had more money then sense it seems.
I keep her on Lake Norman here in North Carolina. She's always been drystored so looks fairly new.
She's got less than 200 hours on the engine, 90 of which were put on the engine by the original owner the first year he owned it....like I said, more money then sense.
I don't have a picture of her handy so I'll post this one from a Google image search....my boat is pretty much identical.
(http://imt.boatwizard.com/images/1/77/82/4407782_20130708075611913_1_LARGE.jpg)
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Bear in mind...if we were to buy this in the US (and the price he is asking is about in-line with US prices) we would then have to ship it here and pay 30% duty.
Only 5 K apart........If I really wanted it I'd offer another 2 K and tell him thats final,if you dont like it I'm going to get another boat anyways... Or maybe even stay firm but offer to take him out to dinner to seal the deal! :aok
If I have my numbers right,that should be maybe 2 full tanks of fuel,ok maybe 3 but still It's like 2 % of total I cant beleive the numbskull wont take it,his birth has to cost close to that a season!
:salute
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I don't mind.
Let's have your opinion.
New it was landed here for $350,000 in late 2010.
The guy's asking is $225,000
Our final offer was $195,000, his final final is $200,000
We are only 5k apart.
You are not 5k apart, you are one ego apart.
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I hope you mean HIS ego? ;)
I have left my buddy to finish the negotiations rather than email me draft letters etc. I am sure he will get the deal done.
You must come back and have a ride Mitch!
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Get a boat yourself. That or end a friendship.