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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: chaser on September 30, 2013, 11:21:53 PM
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Please remove the airbases from the TT on this map. It to the point tanks are useless out there because everyone and their red headed step child are dropping bombs or strafing tanks. It's really quite pathetic. It used to be a fun place but it's been completely ruin by the no-life scumbags dropping eggs.
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Or at least make it a no bomb zone where any bomb dropped on a GV blows the plane up instead of the Tank.
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get rid of ord... :aok
werbs and others do shoot at birds flying above....ive been killed by such going to center fight....
I don't think its right to totally take away the ability to kill each other there...but having to strafe a GV down is reasonable instead of just dropping bombs.
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Please remove the airbases from the TT on this map. It to the point tanks are useless out there because everyone and their red headed step child are dropping bombs or strafing tanks. It's really quite pathetic. It used to be a fun place but it's been completely ruin by the no-life scumbags dropping eggs.
Why do you feel that you should be immune to air attack? If you're red, then you're a target regardless if you're on the ground or in the air. Deal with it.
ack-ack
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Simple. You can fly your little Pee38 up to 20K and not have to worry about wirbs or any other ground vehicles shooting you and fight planes all day long. Please show me one place on any map in the rotation that provides this for the GV'ers. Such a place is simply non-existent.
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Simple. You can fly your little Pee38 up to 20K and not have to worry about wirbs or any other ground vehicles shooting you and fight planes all day long. Please show me one place on any map in the rotation that provides this for the GV'ers. Such a place is simply non-existent.
I don't see why it's so hard to understand that while you're in the main arena, you're a target no matter when you're in for the guy on the other side. Asking to be immune to attack from one segment of the player base is rather silly and is nothing more than a whine about being killed. You also ignore that TT island is also a very popular place with us that like furball since the bases are close together and flight time is short and you also ignore that most of the GV action in TT island is in support of base captures and you just want to make it easier for you by removing a tool the defenders can use to defend their base. Your original post is nothing more than a whine about being killed masked as a wish.
ack-ack
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Please remove the airbases from the TT on this map. It to the point tanks are useless out there because everyone and their red headed step child are dropping bombs or strafing tanks. It's really quite pathetic. It used to be a fun place but it's been completely ruin by the no-life scumbags dropping eggs.
No.
You don't like being bombed, take out the ords or kill the plane. I dislike Runstang pilots dragging me to wirbs, and I dislike being vulched by tanks parked next to the runway but you don't see me on the forums asking for special treatment.
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I don't see why it's so hard to understand that while you're in the main arena, you're a target no matter when you're in for the guy on the other side. Asking to be immune to attack from one segment of the player base is rather silly and is nothing more than a whine about being killed. You also ignore that TT island is also a very popular place with us that like furball since the bases are close together and flight time is short and you also ignore that most of the GV action in TT island is in support of base captures and you just want to make it easier for you by removing a tool the defenders can use to defend their base. Your original post is nothing more than a whine about being killed masked as a wish.
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The fact that you think I'm a base taker just proves what a moron you are. It pisses me off when people take bases in TT. I'm there solely to shoot other tanks.
There's about 10 other maps for the planes to fight on, not to mention all the CV battles on Ozkansas already. I don't see how giving the GV'ers ONE place on ONE map is that big of deal.
No.
You don't like being bombed, take out the ords or kill the plane. I dislike Runstang pilots dragging me to wirbs, and I dislike being vulched by tanks parked next to the runway but you don't see me on the forums asking for special treatment.
It's not that simple. You have the option to avoid wirbs and the option to not chase after that mustang. A gv'er has no option to not die to a bomb other than to just not up. And that kinda defeats the purpose of having tanks in the first place. There is a significant advantage for the planes.
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The fact that you think I'm a base taker just proves what a moron you are. It pisses me off when people take bases in TT. I'm there solely to shoot other tanks.
There's about 10 other maps for the planes to fight on, not to mention all the CV battles on Ozkansas already. I don't see how giving the GV'ers ONE place on ONE map is that big of deal.
It's not that simple. You have the option to avoid wirbs and the option to not chase after that mustang. A gv'er has no option to not die to a bomb other than to just not up. And that kinda defeats the purpose of having tanks in the first place. There is a significant advantage for the planes.
You have the option to up an aircraft instead of a tank, or request fighter cover so you aren't bombed. Still no, no special treatment for the GVers.
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if you want to drive a tank without getting bombed, go to the ava and ask for a tank only setup...nothing stopping you.
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Nope.
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The assumption that the central island is for the exclusive use of GV'ers is a false one IMO.
One could also wish for all GV fields to be removed or at least such GV that would interfere with any air action above it............ and be equally erroneous
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Chaser your wasting your time no one is going to give up easy kills so we can gv in peace. He'll they don't even wana give us our own server why would they want to change one map. I bet they would rather see players quit than everyone having fun
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Because GV'ers never park wirbs and osti's underneath furballs and pick people off... :rolleyes:
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I think what most people miss both air and ground is that it really is a circle of life. The JABO bombs the GV, the plane gets shot down by a Wirbel or a fighter, the fighter gets engaged by a Wirbel or another fighter, the Wirbel gets engaged by tanks, the JABO takes out ords and more tanks, more fighters show up, throw in some buffs and a few carrier groups etc. and so on. If you think you are not part of the food chain in the main arena because of your preferred activity, you are wrong and set up for disappointment.
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Hell no. That is where the fastest air-to-air action is found on that map. I do wish those three air fields were uncapturable though.
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The fact that you think I'm a base taker just proves what a moron you are.
The moron is the one that gets bombed in a tank and then comes to the forums whining about it.
ack-ack
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Simple. You can fly your little Pee38 up to 20K and not have to worry about wirbs or any other ground vehicles shooting you and fight planes all day long. Please show me one place on any map in the rotation that provides this for the GV'ers. Such a place is simply non-existent.
Christ, its an air combat game? Aces High the clues in the name, would be like me going to WOT expecting some planes? Why did you even start playing this game? Why would you expect a plane game to become a tank game?? :rofl
On a more serious note why not just go and play World of Tanks? A game...predominately about tanks?? :huh
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Christ, its an air combat game? Aces High the clues in the name, would be like me going to WOT expecting some planes? Why did you even start playing this game? Why would you expect a plane game to become a tank game?? :rofl
On a more serious note why not just go and play World of Tanks? A game...predominately about tanks?? :huh
I don't think the GVers should go away, when a good tank battle gets going I like to join in.
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Chaser your wasting your time no one is going to give up easy kills so we can gv in peace. He'll they don't even wana give us our own server why would they want to change one map. I bet they would rather see players quit than everyone having fun
Translation: Dying in this specific way ruins the entire game for me, so I want everybody's gameplay experience changed to suit my needs. HTC please take away the quick fights that TT maps provide fighter pilots so that I can spawn camp with impunity.
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Please remove the airbases from the TT on this map. It to the point tanks are useless out there because everyone and their red headed step child are dropping bombs or strafing tanks. It's really quite pathetic. It used to be a fun place but it's been completely ruin by the no-life scumbags dropping eggs.
:ahand How bout NO you can find other places the purpose of that island is to have air and ground combat so deal with it
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Christ, its an air combat game? Aces High the clues in the name, would be like me going to WOT expecting some planes? Why did you even start playing this game? Why would you expect a plane game to become a tank game?? :rofl
On a more serious note why not just go and play World of Tanks? A game...predominately about tanks?? :huh
There are 21 GV's in Aces High. Maybe you didn't notice the Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzers that were recently
Released. There are allot of dedicated GV'ers in AH and their numbers are growing. Try the GV's. You might just like them. I would be surprised if AH didn't add more tanks in the near future. Good for business.
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Note he is talking about Tank Town, so the OP is quite reasonable +1 :aok
I think what most people miss both air and ground is that it really is a circle of life. The JABO bombs the GV, the plane gets shot down by a Wirbel or a fighter, the fighter gets engaged by a Wirbel or another fighter, the Wirbel gets engaged by tanks, the JABO takes out ords and more tanks, more fighters show up, throw in some buffs and a few carrier groups etc. and so on. If you think you are not part of the food chain in the main arena because of your preferred activity, you are wrong and set up for disappointment.
No, what they miss is that in AH GVs and AC are not at all comparable in capability, in that the former is totally at the mercy of the latter given competent players. Unless you are part of a squad/horde (which many of you are), arranging “help” is problematic. Doing it yourself requires ditching the GV, upping a fighter from 1-2 sectors away, flying back, and usually finding that the perpetrator is long gone. And of course while you’re doing all this, you can’t GV. It’s like saying that you should stand outside your house all night to prevent the neighborhood teens from TPing your trees. So before you guys start lecturing about "upping a fighter" and similar roadkill, you should try GVing with a perk tank yourself under these conditions. Otherwise it looks like hypocrisy.
MH
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Chaser your wasting your time no one is going to give up easy kills so we can gv in peace. He'll they don't even wana give us our own server why would they want to change one map. I bet they would rather see players quit than everyone having fun
BTW, I hope HTC reads these threads. If I were them, I would see in some of them an opportunity to maintain/increase the subscriber base. As I said in another thread, I have a friend whom I could get to subscribe, but only if I could tell him that the game is GV-friendly. Unfortunately it currently isn't, for reasons like this. It is fun if you fly planes, but there is too much unnecessary frustration for GVers, which could easily be removed with some rules tweaks.
My favorite is impose a small perk point loss if you bomb a GV inside a VBase circle. That would kill GV griefing, without eliminating ground attack elsewhere on the map. No map changes needed (Maybe I should post this as a "wish"...).
MH
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BTW, I hope HTC reads these threads. If I were them, I would see in some of them an opportunity to maintain/increase the subscriber base. As I said in another thread, I have a friend whom I could get to subscribe, but only if I could tell him that the game is GV-friendly. Unfortunately it currently isn't, for reasons like this. It is fun if you fly planes, but there is too much unnecessary frustration for GVers, which could easily be removed with some rules tweaks.
My favorite is impose a small perk point loss if you bomb a GV inside a VBase circle. That would kill GV griefing, without eliminating ground attack elsewhere on the map. No map changes needed (Maybe I should post this as a "wish"...).
MH
I'm still reading all this as "Give us special treatment because we don't like dying in this specific way."
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I'm still reading all this as "Give us special treatment because we don't like dying in this specific way."
It depends on what you mean by "special treatment". For example, we have laws which make child molestation and bank robbery illegal. Is this "special treatment"?
MH
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It is so fast to get a tank back into the action at Tank Town on that map, what does it matter you might get bombed? Hell, it is faster to reload that way than to ask for supplies anyway.
I don't understand the request to remove airbases.
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It depends on what you mean by "special treatment". For example, we have laws which make child molestation and bank robbery illegal. Is this "special treatment"?
MH
Are you trying to compare pixel bombs making pixel explosions out of pixel tanks to child molestation and bank robbery? :huh
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Are you trying to compare pixel bombs making pixel explosions out of pixel tanks to child molestation and bank robbery? :huh
looks that way...he sure jammed his arm up to the shoulder into the outhouse to pull that one out...
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Are you trying to compare pixel bombs making pixel explosions out of pixel tanks to child molestation and bank robbery? :huh
What do you think, Einstein ... ?
MH
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I think what most people miss both air and ground is that it really is a circle of life. The JABO bombs the GV, the plane gets shot down by a Wirbel or a fighter, the fighter gets engaged by a Wirbel or another fighter, the Wirbel gets engaged by tanks, the JABO takes out ords and more tanks, more fighters show up, throw in some buffs and a few carrier groups etc. and so on. If you think you are not part of the food chain in the main arena because of your preferred activity, you are wrong and set up for disappointment.
Perfect summary of what the Ozkansas center island does. The island is no more "tank-town" than it is "fighter-town." What it is, is a cauldron, where every element of AH mixed in a condensed area. There is quick combat to be had there by all three countries, and chaos reigns supreme. If you want to battle in the cauldron, wear your big-boy pants, because death surely awaits.
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Perfect summary of what the Ozkansas center island does. The island is no more "tank-town" than it is "fighter-town." What it is, is a cauldron, where every element of AH mixed in a condensed area. There is quick combat to be had there by all three countries, and chaos reigns supreme. If you want to battle in the cauldron, wear your big-boy pants, because death surely awaits.
The OP knows what it does (better than you if you don't GV there, I imagine), and is requesting a change. That's why this thread is in the "Wishlist" Forum ...
MH
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Perfect summary of what the Ozkansas center island does. The island is no more "tank-town" than it is "fighter-town." What it is, is a cauldron, where every element of AH mixed in a condensed area. There is quick combat to be had there by all three countries, and chaos reigns supreme. If you want to battle in the cauldron, wear your big-boy pants, because death surely awaits.
Another player that gets it. Hit the nail on the head. :aok
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Perfect summary of what the Ozkansas center island does. The island is no more "tank-town" than it is "fighter-town." What it is, is a cauldron, where every element of AH mixed in a condensed area. There is quick combat to be had there by all three countries, and chaos reigns supreme. If you want to battle in the cauldron, wear your big-boy pants, because death surely awaits.
:aok :aok
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Perfect summary of what the Ozkansas center island does. The island is no more "tank-town" than it is "fighter-town." What it is, is a cauldron, where every element of AH mixed in a condensed area. There is quick combat to be had there by all three countries, and chaos reigns supreme. If you want to battle in the cauldron, wear your big-boy pants, because death surely awaits.
This. I'm sure a few remember when this map (or, at least, one very similar to it) had 3 center islands with ocean in between. We looked at that area as "fighter-town" and often lamented about the win-the-war types coming in and closing a base or, heaven forbid, capturing it. We asked many times for this to be a dedicated fighter-town with bases which couldn't be captured and hangars which couldn't be destroyed. That wish was never granted because the MA is the MA. It's not an area for pure anything.
After a while, a ground-pounder asked for the ocean in between the islands to be filled in so GVs could play there, too. This wish was granted because, I suspect, it added to the free-for-all atmosphere and brought GVs into an area of the fight where they had previously not had an impact.
Now the GV types are complaining about any planes flying there at all and asking for a tank-town. As has been pointed out, the MA is a maelstrom of no-holds-barred fights and I strongly suspect this wish will have as much success as our wish for a "pure" fighter-town.
Regards,
Hammer
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Were this to be granted I would make an effort to fly from other bases just to attack the GVers. I don't use aircraft against GVs unless they are attacking an air field, but I'd make an exception in this case.
From the point of view of somebody who doesn't care about the war the center island is the best place to find fights.
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From the point of view of somebody who doesn't care about the war the center island is the best place to find fights.
Actually, that is a good point; I didn't consider that because I don't fly much these days. If you left in the air bases, but did something else to deter excessive bombing of GVs (like my VBase circle idea), perhaps that would be better and more focused. Also, perhaps an idea to make GV icons just say "GV", so people don't selectively hunt down perk tanks would be worth a Wishlist thread...
MH
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Christ, its an air combat game? Aces High the clues in the name, would be like me going to WOT expecting some planes? Why did you even start playing this game? Why would you expect a plane game to become a tank game?? :rofl
On a more serious note why not just go and play World of Tanks? A game...predominately about tanks?? :huh
An easier solution would be change the Airfields on TT island to Small Airfields. Two ords are easier to take down than four.
The point being the bomb tarding is getting out of hand. The terrain was originally made for a/c. There is no where to hide a perked ride period.
Maybe it's time you tried World of Warplanes.......run with your suggestion.
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How about just putting an overcast layer from 500 to 2000 agl right over tank town. Bomb away, it will be a bit dicey. You can still use ord to keep the other bases from being over run by gvs as their weather will be as unnaturally clear as everywhere else.
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An easier solution would be change the Airfields on TT island to Small Airfields. Two ords are easier to take down than four.
The point being the bomb tarding is getting out of hand. The terrain was originally made for a/c. There is no where to hide a perked ride period.
Maybe it's time you tried World of Warplanes.......run with your suggestion.
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You do realise how ridiculous you sound asking to not be bombed in a game called aces high?
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You do realise how ridiculous you sound asking to not be bombed in a game called aces high?
You do realize how ridiculous you sound in claiming that because the word "high" is in the name that the game can't cater to platforms other than aircraft?
MH
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You do realise how ridiculous you sound asking to not be bombed in a game called aces high?
Read chaser's original post again. You obviously don't understand. It is a Wishlist forum and he made a suggestion to enhance game play for GV'ers in areas that were set up specifically for GV's. He is talking about OzKansas in this instance. If you think all GV'ers should go to World of Tanks, maybe it is time you moved on to World of Warplanes. It is not complicated.
There are tankers that never spent the time to develop the skills necessary to be successful in tanks and often resort to bomb tarding out of frustration. There are other players that do nothing but bomb tanks. Bombing tanks that are attacking a field is one thing, but bombing them when all they are doing is fighting around adjacent spawns or two close vh fields is something else. If you are not adequate in tanks I suggest you spend some time in the Training Arena learning tanks. I would suggest you contact WWhiskey and see if he is available. He is one of the very best in tanks and has seen it all. There are quite a few regular tankers that go take down ords at the nearby air fields from all three counties. They do it when the bomb tarding gets out of hand.
CraterMA has an area designated for GV's. It is right in the middle of the map. You can't miss it. Yet players fly long distances, climb tall mountains and invest allot of time to go and do one thing, bomb GV's. If you cannot comprehend then move on to World of Warplanes or spend some time learning about tanks.
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Lol! Skill don't make laugh. Gvs are where the pilots that can't cut it go :bhead
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Read chaser's original post again. You obviously don't understand. It is a Wishlist forum and he made a suggestion to enhance game play for GV'ers in areas that were set up specifically for GV's. He is talking about OzKansas in this instance.
The center island on Ozkansas was not set up for the exclusive use of GVs, otherwise the terrain builder wouldn't have put in airfields. It was meant as an area where both types (fighters and ground dweebs) can play and have relatively quick fights.
Yes, this is a wish list forum but the OP's original post wasn't really a wish, it was more of a whine concealed as a wish.
ack-ack
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The center island on Ozkansas was not set up for the exclusive use of GVs, otherwise the terrain builder wouldn't have put in airfields. It was meant as an area where both types (fighters and ground dweebs) can play and have relatively quick fights.
Yes, this is a wish list forum but the OP's original post wasn't really a wish, it was more of a whine concealed as a wish.
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Ground dweeb? Someone suggest an idea you don't like so your solution is to flame them? Chaser asked for a change and in your opinion it is a whine. Is there anyone in this forum you don't flame? Which guy are you, the one that does not know how to tank or the one that just bombs GV's and does nothing else in AH. You obviously don't want to lose an opportunity to bomb GV's.
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Ground dweeb? Someone suggest an idea you don't like so your solution is to flame them? Chaser asked for a change and in your opinion it is a whine. Is there anyone in this forum you don't flame? Which guy are you, the one that does not know how to tank or the one that just bombs GV's and does nothing else in AH. You obviously don't want to lose an opportunity to bomb GV's.
Like Ack-Ack said the Island is not just for GVs taking away the airbases takes away the main focus of the map and this game which is Air Combat, and i hate to say its a Wish (Whine) to make GVers Impervious to Air Attack as i stated in another thread its just an excuse
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Ground dweeb? Someone suggest an idea you don't like so your solution is to flame them?
My, my, my...don't you have a thin skin. I guess you must be one of those that doesn't know how to fly and just drives around on the ground and does nothing else in AH.
Chaser asked for a change and in your opinion it is a whine. Is there anyone in this forum you don't flame?
I didn't flame chaser at all, I just pointed out that his "wish" was just a whine disguised as a wish because he had been bombed in a tank and was upset about it. Pointing out a clear fact is hardly 'flaming' anyone, well, maybe the ones that have a thin skin.
Which guy are you, the one that does not know how to tank or the one that just bombs GV's and does nothing else in AH. You obviously don't want to lose an opportunity to bomb GV's.
I'm the kind of player that sees a red icon, I destroy it, regardless if its a ground vehicle or a plane. And no, why would I want to lose the opportunity to destroy another target?
ack-ack
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A bunch of yall are just to dumb to see what I'm asking. You act like I'm asking for the entire game to be changed and you'll never get a free kill again. All I'm asking for is one small place on one map changed. I'm so sorry yall would have to give up some free kills for one map. I know they're awefully important to your precious score.
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A bunch of yall are just to dumb to see what I'm asking. You act like I'm asking for the entire game to be changed and you'll never get a free kill again. All I'm asking for is one small place on one map changed. I'm so sorry yall would have to give up some free kills for one map. I know they're awefully important to your precious score.
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Yeah, score means so much to me.
ack-ack
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A bunch of yall are just to dumb to see what I'm asking. You act like I'm asking for the entire game to be changed and you'll never get a free kill again. All I'm asking for is one small place on one map changed. I'm so sorry yall would have to give up some free kills for one map. I know they're awefully important to your precious score.
I see exactly what you're asking for. You're asking for the best place to find fast air-to-air combat to be removed so you can have a GVers paradise.
I am telling you that while I fly airplanes there now I don't attack tanks unless the tank is attacking an airfield, though AA vehicles I do consider fair game if they get too annoying. If your whining were to succeed at getting the airfields removed from the best place to find fights I would start flying over there to bomb GVs just to piss you off.
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I see exactly what you're asking for. You're asking for the best place to find fast air-to-air combat to be removed so you can have a GVers paradise.
I am telling you that while I fly airplanes there now I don't attack tanks unless the tank is attacking an airfield, though AA vehicles I do consider fair game if they get too annoying. If your whining were to succeed at getting the airfields removed from the best place to find fights I would start flying over there to bomb GVs just to piss you off.
Your exactly the type of girl that if you don't get it your way your gonna grief the other guy. Again, let me say it as you obviously still can't understand what I'm asking for.
ONE place on ONE map where GV'ers can just GV. That would still leave 95% of ozkansas and 12 whole maps for you to furball and get your free GV kills. Now do you see how selfish you are being or are you going to continue to act like a bratty 3 year old?
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Your exactly the type of girl that if you don't get it your way your gonna grief the other guy. Again, let me say it as you obviously still can't understand what I'm asking for.
ONE place on ONE map where GV'ers can just GV. That would still leave 95% of ozkansas and 12 whole maps for you to furball and get your free GV kills. Now do you see how selfish you are being or are you going to continue to act like a bratty 3 year old?
The only person in this thread acting selfish and like a bratty 3 year old is the OP...oh, I guess that means it's you.
If you want to GV in peace without the threat of being bombed, the game already has these features. There is an area in the DA where you can GV to your little bitty heart's content without fear of being bombed. If you don't wish to go to the DA, then you have the other option of creating a custom arena with GVs only. BAM! Wish granted!
ack-ack
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After careful thought and consideration I believe I have found a solution to the problem of poor innocent GVers being bombed by those big bad evil airplane pilots. I believe that HTC should put into a place a mechanism which would allow players to destroy some form of building or similar structure to be located at each airfield. The destruction of this building or similar structure would temporarily prevent the arming of aircraft with bombs and/or rockets. Problem solved. :bolt: :airplane:
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After careful thought and consideration I believe I have found a solution to the problem of poor innocent GVers being bombed by those big bad evil airplane pilots. I believe that HTC should put into a place a mechanism which would allow players to destroy some form of building or similar structure to be located at each airfield. The destruction of this building or similar structure would temporarily prevent the arming of aircraft with bombs and/or rockets. Problem solved. :bolt: :airplane:
The problem with this type of "solution" is that the people who suggest them don't pay attention to the implementation details. In this case, the implementation details include 8 (eight) such "structures" located far apart, which rejuvenate automatically. They are also defended by radar directed fighters. In reality therefore Chaser would be spending all his time trying to fight his way through to these "structures", and have no time to GV. So he's still screwed.
But wait, you already know that, don't you ...
MH
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Your exactly the type of girl that if you don't get it your way your gonna grief the other guy. Again, let me say it as you obviously still can't understand what I'm asking for.
ONE place on ONE map where GV'ers can just GV. That would still leave 95% of ozkansas and 12 whole maps for you to furball and get your free GV kills. Now do you see how selfish you are being or are you going to continue to act like a bratty 3 year old?
Chaser, most of these guys either don't GV at all, or do so at a low skill level. As you say, they don't have a clue as to what you're talking about, and probably don't much care that they don't. You still have to spank them occasionally to keep them in their place, but that won't stop them from responding to the AC-GV imbalance discussions with posts lke "up a fighter", "up a wirble", "suck it up", "stop whining", etc. Hopefully HTC will evaluate these suggestions based on their inherent merits and ignore the predicable responses here. Forum posters are after all a minority of the game population.
MH
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Your exactly the type of girl that if you don't get it your way your gonna grief the other guy. Again, let me say it as you obviously still can't understand what I'm asking for.
ONE place on ONE map where GV'ers can just GV. That would still leave 95% of ozkansas and 12 whole maps for you to furball and get your free GV kills. Now do you see how selfish you are being or are you going to continue to act like a bratty 3 year old?
You have the gall to accuse people of being dumb because you don't like their valid counter points. You'd do great in Congress with your "I don't need to take other people into consideration. I know I am right and I don't have to examine the issue to know that." attitude.
Now you accuse me of looking for free GV kills. You're truly pathetic. You can't address the valid points, so you slander instead.
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You have the gall to accuse people of being dumb because you don't like their valid counter points. You'd do great in Congress with your "I don't need to take other people into consideration. I know I am right and I don't have to examine the issue to know that." attitude.
Now you accuse me of looking for free GV kills. You're truly pathetic. You can't address the valid points, so you slander instead.
Hey guys, would it work if instead we suggested removing ords from TT island? Of course, some would still fly in from the mainland, but it would take them longer, and in the long run probably fewer would do it.
MH
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Chaser, most of these guys either don't GV at all, or do so at a low skill level.
MH
The Wirbelgawd chuckles at this. :lol
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The Wirbelgawd chuckles at this. :lol
I did say "most". Also, we are not talking about working with a squad or sitting on a base, but rather operating a tank individually over the terrain. Chaser is pretty good at that; he kills me way more than I kill him. He uses terrain well, and he is a dead shot.
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I thought there were v-bases around the edge of the map in Oskansas which are far away from airfields.
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Chaser, most of these guys either don't GV at all, or do so at a low skill level. As you say, they don't have a clue as to what you're talking about, and probably don't much care that they don't. You still have to spank them occasionally to keep them in their place, but that won't stop them from responding to the AC-GV imbalance discussions with posts lke "up a fighter", "up a wirble", "suck it up", "stop whining", etc. Hopefully HTC will evaluate these suggestions based on their inherent merits and ignore the predicable responses here. Forum posters are after all a minority of the game population.
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First I would like to say that I don't dislike GV's, and that I have been bombed enough to know that it's not an especially pleasant experience. However..
You seem to want HTC to change the game for everybody else so that YOU can have exactly what YOU want. (Which I suspect is the ability to spawn camp with relative impunity because nothing kills a perfectly good spawn camp like a few bombs) The furball areas at the center of a few of the maps currently in rotation are not for gvers alone. They exist so that ALL players can up and quickly find something to entertain them, yes even if that something is bombing GVs. There are plenty of tools already available designed to increase the survivability of your tank and it is nobody's fault but your own if you choose not to use them.
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I did say "most". Also, we are not talking about working with a squad or sitting on a base, but rather operating a tank individually over the terrain. Chaser is pretty good at that; he kills me way more than I kill him. He uses terrain well, and he is a dead shot.
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Noted. For what it is worth, you will rarely if ever find the Pigs operating in the air or ground in that area unless there is an active capture attempt going on by the Rooks or Bishop. Bombing for the sake of bombing really holds no reward for us. If you are around a field anywhere else on the map, I can make no promises as we are usually attacking or defending the Bishop/Rook and all targets are on the table.
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First I would like to say that I don't dislike GV's, and that I have been bombed enough to know that it's not an especially pleasant experience. However..
You seem to want HTC to change the game for everybody else so that YOU can have exactly what YOU want. (Which I suspect is the ability to spawn camp with relative impunity because nothing kills a perfectly good spawn camp like a few bombs) The furball areas at the center of a few of the maps currently in rotation are not for gvers alone. They exist so that ALL players can up and quickly find something to entertain them, yes even if that something is bombing GVs. There are plenty of tools already available designed to increase the survivability of your tank and it is nobody's fault but your own if you choose not to use them.
Again, I'm not asking for the entire game to be changed. Simply one place on one map. This is at least the 3rd time I've posted those exact words.
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Again, I'm not asking for the entire game to be changed. Simply one place on one map. This is at least the 3rd time I've posted those exact words.
And as I said gvers are but one slice of the Aces High pie. That part of the map is not and should not be for gv's alone.
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You seem to want HTC to change the game for everybody else so that YOU can have exactly what YOU want.
Why would someone post a “wish” advocating something that they didn’t want?
(Which I suspect is the ability to spawn camp with relative impunity because nothing kills a perfectly good spawn camp like a few bombs)
The OP is referring to OzKansas TT island. Note that all GV spawns on OzKansas TT island are inside VBase hangers, so you can’t spawn camp in the classic sense. Also, don’t jump to conclusions as to the OP’s motives. In this case, Chaser was operating his GVs in what I call “furball” mode, maneuvering over the hills and shooting from selected positions. This is the GV analog to AC furballing, and differs from camping a spawn, or shooting from the VBase tarmac, which are essentially stationary.
The furball areas at the center of a few of the maps currently in rotation are not for gvers alone. They exist so that ALL players can up and quickly find something to entertain them, yes even if that something is bombing GVs. There are plenty of tools already available designed to increase the survivability of your tank and it is nobody's fault but your own if you choose not to use them.
The “available” tools are grossly inadequate, as you would know if you GVed much. That’s why we have these threads. Also, note that most of them are asking for GV-safe areas on a ***small portion*** of the map, and not the entire thing. Thus, from the OPs’ perspectives, the over-the-top responses received by these threads from non-GVers or horde GVers seem unreasonable. The insulting and patronizing language used in most of these responses doesn’t help much either.
Now Karnak’s concern is valid, and unlike most respondents, he tries (initially anyway) to be civil. Hopefully some solution can be found to satisfy all reasonable parties.
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Now Karnak’s concern is valid, and unlike most respondents, he tries (initially anyway) to be civil. Hopefully some solution can be found to satisfy all reasonable parties.
MH
I will remain civil with those who are civil. Chaser choosing to call me dumb for not agreeing with him, then responded with gender based insults and unfounded assumptions of my motivations when informed that should he manage whine away the best place to find fights by making efforts to make his success a Pyrrhic one in retaliation waived away civility.
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You do realize how ridiculous you sound in claiming that because the word "high" is in the name that the game can't cater to platforms other than aircraft?
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I thought it meant smoke a doobie and fly airplanes :headscratch:
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I thought it meant smoke a doobie and fly airplanes :headscratch:
thats what I got out of it :lol
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Ive been playing AH since tour 52....I have been killed far more by GVs then killed them....flying to a fight and all of a sudden death from some GV that I never saw....
never have I come here and whined about being killed by some GV that I have NO wish to interact with....don't drive them don't attack them.....why the hell should I have to worry about something that I never intended to to fight???????
why oh why....whhhooo is me.....
HTC please make it so GVs cant kill planes :O
thankfully HTC knows what the hell he is doing so will never grant this type of whin....errrr wish.
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(http://www.visitrenotahoe.com/images/calendar/1_cheech-and-chong.jpg)
"Hey man, I think I see some GV's down there......man it looks like Rondar and Jamdive."
"Let's bomb 'em and see if we can really tick 'em off, then guard the ords so they don't try and take 'em down."
:D :D :D :D
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Wow, first pothead pic I have seen without any ridiculous tattoos.
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thats what I got out of it :lol
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Ive been playing AH since tour 52....I have been killed far more by GVs then killed them....flying to a fight and all of a sudden death from some GV that I never saw....
never have I come here and whined about being killed by some GV that I have NO wish to interact with....don't drive them don't attack them.....why the hell should I have to worry about something that I never intended to to fight???????
why oh why....whhhooo is me.....
HTC please make it so GVs cant kill planes :O
thankfully HTC knows what the hell he is doing so will never grant this type of whin....errrr wish.
The point of this particular post is unclear, so I can't decide whether to flame it or not...
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The point of this particular post is unclear, so I can't decide whether to flame it or not...
MH
Flame away :D
Wow, first pothead pic I have seen without any ridiculous tattoos.
someone a bit overly judgmental maybe. :headscratch:
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Flame away :D
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Fine, but what the hell are you trying to say here? I need a statement and a rationale, so that I can contradict the former and ridicule the latter. Something like "I oppose all changes designed to create GV-friendly areas in the MA, and I haven't bothered to ready any of the hundreds of lines justifying such changes in this and other threads, and anyone who disagrees with my opinion is moron."
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Fine, but what the hell are you trying to say here? I need a statement and a rationale, so that I can contradict the former and ridicule the latter. Something like "I oppose all changes designed to create GV-friendly areas in the MA, and I haven't bothered to ready any of the hundreds of lines justifying such changes in this and other threads, and anyone who disagrees with my opinion is moron."
MH
basically I was just being a smartass.....
but Honestly the MA is a sandbox for combat.....the center area of GV and airfields is a great place to have some virtual combat...if the airfields were takin out that would suk....
I do understand some things that dont go your way suk...like being bombed by guys who interfere in your tank fight...or GVs killing a plane flying to the fight....(basically the same thing)
what is great about AH is they don't limit your choices or fun factor....there are always new GVs in the hanger (or planes for what such as me)
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basically I was just being a smartass.....
but Honestly the MA is a sandbox for combat.....the center area of GV and airfields is a great place to have some virtual combat...if the airfields were takin out that would suk....
I do understand some things that dont go your way suk...like being bombed by guys who interfere in your tank fight...or GVs killing a plane flying to the fight....(basically the same thing)
what is great about AH is they don't limit your choices or fun factor....there are always new GVs in the hanger (or planes for what such as me)
Thanks for the clarification. Problem with the "back to the hanger" philosophy is that its appeal only persists up to a certain point (death / achievement ratio). After that point you perceive the uselessness of your gaming activity, and go do something else. I am trying to avoid us reaching that point with my various suggestions. BTW, my alternative to the OP is to remove ords from the OzKansas airbases, and hope that the air furball still remains.
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:aok
No.
You don't like being bombed, take out the ords or kill the plane. I dislike Runstang pilots dragging me to wirbs, and I dislike being vulched by tanks parked next to the runway but you don't see me on the forums asking for special treatment.
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Replace V bases on all maps with A bases. Less wasted space between bases and gv'ers can still spawn gvs from the same fields they do now.
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Let them GV-only guys have their own vehicle-only arena. Better for pilots, better for GV'ers.
Let those who wants air-land battle play happy as now in the MA.