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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: f35raptor on October 01, 2013, 01:51:34 PM
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Got my first rifle
I dont have any pics atm. But what i do know is thats its a russian mosin. I think its from wwii as it has 1942 stamped on the gun only paid 170 for it and it came with a couple houndred rounds of ammo. Yes it fires
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:huh oh joy...he got a gun and can't even spell rifle (r-i-f-l-e) properly...
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:huh oh joy...he got a gun and can't even spell rifle (r-i-f-l-e) properly...
..or bought....
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Sorry was using my phone
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Luckily it turns out that correct spelling is not required for safely handling firearms... :aok
Congrats on your first gun f35. :)
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Luckily it turns out that correct spelling is not required for safely handling firearms... :aok
yes it is...anyone who owns guns and cannot spell in their native language, should be shot with said guns before they hurt someone else.
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Luckily it turns out that correct spelling is not required for safely handling firearms... :aok
BigBMaw will be thrilled. :)
Mater of fact I'll be buying mine in a couple of months. Shotgun.
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yes it is...anyone who owns guns and cannot spell in their native language, should be shot with said guns before they hurt someone else.
Hopefully you don't own any firearms then. Would hate to lose you here on the bbs...
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Curval with a gun? say it aint so! :O
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yes it is...anyone who owns guns and cannot spell in their native language, should be shot with said guns before they hurt someone else.
He said he was using his phone, calm down Gomer Pyle.
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Got my first rifle
I dont have any pics atm. But what i do know is thats its a russian mosin. I think its from wwii as it has 1942 stamped on the gun only paid 170 for it and it came with a couple houndred rounds of ammo. Yes it fires
You'll shoot your eye out kid. :P
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Luckily it turns out that correct spelling is not required for safely handling firearms... :aok
Congrats on your first gun f35. :)
This. And I'd like to add this thread is useless without pics!
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I wisah I had the cash for a serious military arms collection. Ive picked up a few here and there but mostly Im all sporting arms, work, and defense. I'd love just a nice bolt action MBR collection.
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:huh oh joy...he got a gun and can't even spell rifle (r-i-f-l-e) properly...
Got a good view from up there?
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Congrats F35, hope you enjoy your new purchase. Don't let a grammar nazi spoil your fun :aok
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Congrats.
You can get lots of cheap ammo in 7.62x54. Shoot the fire out of it. :rock
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This. And I'd like to add this thread is useless without pics!
Ill get pics up latter this week. Its over in my buddies gun safe atm until i find a good spot for it at my house.
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Got my first rifle
I dont have any pics atm. But what i do know is thats its a russian mosin. I think its from wwii as it has 1942 stamped on the gun only paid 170 for it and it came with a couple houndred rounds of ammo. Yes it fires
sounds like you may have yourself a nagant. what ammo does it use? 7.62x54r? that's what they use. mine's dated 1943. you'll like it.
don't worry 'bout the spelling nazis....just post us up some pics sir.
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yes it is...anyone who owns guns and cannot spell in their native language, should be shot with said guns before they hurt someone else.
that would be the end of the redneck race :).
semp
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Welcome to the Wood & Iron Club! :aok
I have quite a collection myself, being a C&R FFL holder I often surf Guns America and Gun Broker.com.
Target shooting and C&R comps are actually one of my passions. This is me with my trusty Finnish M39 Nagant and my wife shooting her Cold War era Yugoslav AK-47. It has a machined receiver and teak wood stock and grips. No cheap Chinese junk in our gun safe!
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72727_10200899311994669_990290424_n.jpg)
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I was lucky enough to get in to firearms as a hobby back in the early 1990's. I paid $100 for my first Enfield, a WWI vintage No 1 Mk III, I sold it for triple that a few years ago. Now I have a nice WWII No 4 Mk I. I also have a Russian Mosin Nagant, a Finnish Mosin Nagant, a French Mas 36, Italian Carcano 6.5mm, an Arisaka Type 98 with all markings intact, a German k98 with all markings intact, a Garand, and a few others I'm forgetting. I also collect WWII handguns and so far my favorite is the Webley .38. :aok
When my dad was in high school in the early 1960's, he said there were hardware stores that had barrels full of M1 Carbines and Garands for $25. More than once his dad picked up a rifle or carbine and debated on buying it (this g'pa was a jeep jockey in ETO). Oh how I wish g'pa would have bought as many as he could have snuck past g'ma. :D
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I was lucky enough to get in to firearms as a hobby back in the early 1990's. I paid $100 for my first Enfield, a WWI vintage No 1 Mk III, I sold it for triple that a few years ago. Now I have a nice WWII No 4 Mk I. I also have a Russian Mosin Nagant, a Finnish Mosin Nagant, a French Mas 36, Italian Carcano 6.5mm, an Arisaka Type 98 with all markings intact, a German k98 with all markings intact, a Garand, and a few others I'm forgetting. I also collect WWII handguns and so far my favorite is the Webley .38. :aok
When my dad was in high school in the early 1960's, he said there were hardware stores that had barrels full of M1 Carbines and Garands for $25. More than once his dad picked up a rifle or carbine and debated on buying it (this g'pa was a jeep jockey in ETO). Oh how I wish g'pa would have bought as many as he could have snuck past g'ma. :D
Nice. I have an Arisaka with an intact mum too. Its a 7th Series Nagoya Arsenal. I won it at an estate auction for $30. Back when I was a young lad in the early mid 80s you could go to the Woolworths and find Garands, 03 Springfields and Enfields in open display racks for sale
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He said he was using his phone, calm down Gomer Pyle.
(http://www.signsbypost.com/sm_images/BITE-ME-0450.jpg)
Got a good view from up there?
yes...ya i get it, he was all excited and using a phone to let us all know...
that would be the end of the redneck race :).
semp
no loss...there are others i'm hoping follow suit.
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No cheap Chinese junk in our gun safe!
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72727_10200899311994669_990290424_n.jpg)
Now, now. My Poly-Tech has been rather rock solid over the years.
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Love my Mosin. Mine is date stamped for 1933
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I've seen Marines so illiterate that they needed remedial Boot Training to correctly spell their own freakin name.. Just so they could fill out their paperwork Correctly.. :rofl :neener:
But they seem to handle rifles just fine, :salute
WTG, gettin your first gun kiddo..
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The Mosin Nagant is an excellent rifle, with an amazing and rich history. Last weekend my 10 year old son fired my Mosin for the first time. He loved it, and ended up shooting over 70 rounds. :rock
(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/wksleepy/WilliamwithMosin_zps8da1ad03.jpg)
Shot from benchrest at 50 yards. Not bad for a little guy :)
(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/wksleepy/Group_zps637adf4c.jpg)
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He loved it, and ended up shooting over 70 rounds. :rock
Did you have to amputate afterwords? That could be considered child abuse in some states... :rofl :salute
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Welcome to the Wood & Iron Club! :aok
I have quite a collection myself, being a C&R FFL holder I often surf Guns America and Gun Broker.com.
Target shooting and C&R comps are actually one of my passions. This is me with my trusty Finnish M39 Nagant and my wife shooting her Cold War era Yugoslav AK-47. It has a machined receiver and teak wood stock and grips. No cheap Chinese junk in our gun safe!
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72727_10200899311994669_990290424_n.jpg)
The Yugo AKs are excellent, well made. However, I have a 1993 vintage Norinco MAK-90 that matches my Arsenal SAM7R (AK) in accuracy and has proven to be even more reliable (the Arsenal sometimes fails to extract cleanly). No, they are not a nicely machined and the wood is crap. They do, however, shoot very well....
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The Lee-Enfield .303 No.4 is my fave rifle of all the ones I have fired.
Congrats on using the freedom my country sorely lacks :(
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No cheap Chinese junk in our gun safe!
Haters gonna hate.
If push came to shove, I would bet my life on each of my 5 Chi-Com SKS rifles and my MAK-90 and my Type 53 (M44).
And... all my Chi-Coms have Chromed lined barrels, unlike your Yugo AKM (If it has a real Yugo barrel).
Picture is hard to tell... Aftermarket Muzzle brake on your Yugo AKM? Does it not have grenade sights?
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Curval with a gun? say it aint so! :O
Hi Box,
I don't read sign language what is you Avatar saying?
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not a very good picture....but i just got this beauty last week.
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/20130920_211254_zps86702465.jpg) (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/1LTCAP/media/20130920_211254_zps86702465.jpg.html)
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My Patrol rifle.(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/M16-3_zpsb4b5af3a.jpg)
Reminds me of my old A1. (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/Misc/img001-b-1.jpg)
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not a very good picture....but i just got this beauty last week.
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/20130920_211254_zps86702465.jpg) (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/1LTCAP/media/20130920_211254_zps86702465.jpg.html)
They let you have such things in the PRNJ?
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They let you have such things in the PRNJ?
yea. no flash hider, no bayonet lug, and no more than 15 rounds. 'cause you know......with a 30 round "clip" i might become a nutbag. if we added the bayonet lug, then i'd become a nutbag zombie, and i dare not even THINK of what i'd become with the flash hider in addition to those other ultra scary additions, lolololol
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They let you have such things in the PRNJ?
I asked him the exact same thing... :rofl
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I asked him the exact same thing... :rofl
Though you still had to hunt with stone-tipped arrows over there...
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I hope to buy my 1st pistol once we move into our new home.
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They let you have such things in the PRNJ?
Funny but I was looking for 5.56mm to get shipped to this peoples Republic and the only one that would was a company in NJ. :huh
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Though you still had to hunt with stone-tipped arrows over there...
No. those have been outlawed too.
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yea. no flash hider, no bayonet lug, and no more than 15 rounds. 'cause you know......with a 30 round "clip" i might become a nutbag. if we added the bayonet lug, then i'd become a nutbag zombie, and i dare not even THINK of what i'd become with the flash hider in addition to those other ultra scary additions, lolololol
Suppressors are legal over here and fairly common: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchString=silencer
Why on earth does the "land of the free" restrict them?
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The Land of the Free also includes Hollywood, which influences the Land of the Ignorant more
than you'd think :D I defected from the Demokratic People's Republik of NJ 4 years ago and
couldn't be happier :aok
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No. those have been outlawed too.
What communist hellhole do you live in?
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This is a good one on the topic of guns (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5lOjhD_z6E).
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What communist hellhole do you live in?
LoL.. Not me, I still live in the free state of West Virginia. He was referring to CAP1.
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NJ legal arrow:
(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/858/497/492/492497858_986.jpg)
NY legal arrow: :rofl
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4518190831960661&pid=1.7)
I thought about it a bit, and I apologize NYers. I'm not laughing at you, just the situation :D
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NJ legal arrow:
(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/858/497/492/492497858_986.jpg)
NY legal arrow: :rofl
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4518190831960661&pid=1.7)
:rofl
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Funny but I was looking for 5.56mm to get shipped to this peoples Republic and the only one that would was a company in NJ. :huh
so far, i've not had any trouble at all getting any ammo shipped to here.
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No. those have been outlawed too.
someone got scared when they saw me shooting my box in my side yard. and i only had practice tips on the arrows.
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Suppressors are legal over here and fairly common: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchString=silencer
Why on earth does the "land of the free" restrict them?
suppressors......you mean silencers? i think most states here allow them. but remember i'm in the PFRNJ. we own firearms here at our own risk. even if it's legal, there still may be a chance of visiting the greybar hotel, lololol.
i can't have a flash hider, but i can have a muzzle brake though......
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NJ legal arrow:
(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/858/497/492/492497858_986.jpg)
NY legal arrow: :rofl
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4518190831960661&pid=1.7)
I thought about it a bit, and I apologize NYers. I'm not laughing at you, just the situation :D
the suction cup needs to be bigger. that one could still put someones eye out.....
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i can't have a flash hider, but i can have a muzzle brake though......
:huh :headscratch: what numbnuts made the decision to allow muzzle brakes and not flash suppressors?
wonder whether or not you could get into trouble with one of these...
(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/Vltor%20VC%201-2.jpg?1334734642)
(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-GFC-MOD-0-556-2.jpg?1356326591)
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suppressors......you mean silencers? i think most states here allow them. but remember i'm in the PFRNJ.
Yep legal, just need the Fed tax stamp..... certain states may not allow them, but PA does
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Yep legal, just need the Fed tax stamp..... certain states may not allow them, but PA does
heh....wanna guess if we can legally have em here?
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:huh :headscratch: what numbnuts made the decision to allow muzzle brakes and not flash suppressors?
wonder whether or not you could get into trouble with one of these...
(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/Vltor%20VC%201-2.jpg?1334734642)
(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-GFC-MOD-0-556-2.jpg?1356326591)
look reaaaalll lcose at the second pic. guess what we're not allowed to have here? yep. you guessed it. threaded barrels. they need to be pinned or welded on.
i gotta tell ya. i spend a LOT of time reading our convoluted laws here. it goes well past making me angry. but i ain't getting caught up because i made a mistake.
oh yea........i dunno who the nutbag was, but the national awb was based on ours here in nj(sorry skuzzy if that just pushed too far...i'm really trying to not).
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Yep legal, just need the Fed tax stamp..... certain states may not allow them, but PA does
For a nifty $300 permit.
Let me know when you've got your permit and are ready, because I don't need a permit to make one for you, just to posses it once it is finished. :aok
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It was originally a K98 made in 1943 that the Norwegian army re-chambered to .30-06 after the war. Still got the eagle and swastika on it, but the original serial number has been replaced by the army. I've had it re-chambered to 9.3 mm Mauser and put a better stock on it.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26232318/hvm98.jpg)
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It was originally a K98 made in 1943 that the Norwegian army re-chambered to .30-06 after the war. Still got the eagle and swastika on it, but the original serial number has been replaced by the army. I've had it re-chambered to 9.3 mm Mauser and put a better stock on it.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26232318/hvm98.jpg)
wow, very nnnniiiiicccceee Scholz. first modded Kar i've seen that actually looks good, there are a lot of crap mods out there.
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It was originally a K98 made in 1943 that the Norwegian army re-chambered to .30-06 after the war. Still got the eagle and swastika on it, but the original serial number has been replaced by the army. I've had it re-chambered to 9.3 mm Mauser and put a better stock on it.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26232318/hvm98.jpg)
Very nice. :aok
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Thanks :)
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suppressors......you mean silencers? i think most states here allow them. but remember i'm in the PFRNJ. we own firearms here at our own risk. even if it's legal, there still may be a chance of visiting the greybar hotel, lololol.
i can't have a flash hider, but i can have a muzzle brake though......
Suppressors, not silencers. And they sound nothing like in the movies. If the rounds are subsonic then you hear two things: the click of the firing mechanism, and the thud of the rounds impact. If the rounds are subsonic then you also hear the supersonic crack as the round travels down range.
Suppressors help save your ears, they also help accuracy (balance the barrel a bit, also remove turbulence from the muzzle area). When hunting game have trouble identifying which direction you are (they still hear the supersonic crack) - sometimes leaving you open for multiple shots (if you are shooting more than one animal, I've take down 8 feral goats in one quick session).
And my baby (Howa 243, Nikon scope, DPT Suppressor) - have heart shot a yearling fallow deer at 350m (that's 382 yards for you old worlders):
(http://www.gpforums.co.nz/attachment.php?s=&postid=7475146[)
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Very nice. My father has a Howa in .223 that he uses for small game and big birds like grouse, using subsonic ammo. He's very happy with it. Do you plan on camoing the stock as well?
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Here's one of my hunting rifles. A standard Remington 700 AAC-SD w Timney trigger, custom adapted (my own handwork, + Devcon bedding) Bell & Carlson Light Tactical stock for AI mag bottom metal. Bushnell 6-24x50 G2DMR reticle and for quick close range shots (wild boars) a Burris FastFire III 3 MOA dot at 45 degree angle. Since this was taken it has been Duracoated with their Tactical Dark Earth. I get sub MOA groups without too much hassle with factory ammo. Oh and the muzzlebrake is a JP, works well but yes it's loud! No suppressor yet but the advantages are obvious so maybe later. I really like the 20" barrel and magazine handling is just the way it's supposed to be as I was once trained to operate a rifle. Old habits die hard.
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/2ca9/tao9uzm3cpdy97b6g.jpg)
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Impressive. How much does it weigh?
Looks too military for over here; the Law would frown upon it for sure.
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Under 6 kg with a 5 rd mag 308, that is light for a system comparable to what the GIs use. Am very pleased with how the scope snugly hugs the barrel, it sits on a 20 MOA Badger Ord rail. The configuration is not cheap, but makes for a great precision rifle for all distances and once you get used to that reddot practical accurate fire is as fast as a semi 308 I'd argue, accuracy is everything imo. When switching to the reddot I tilt the rifle 45 deg and take aim with the left eye, right eye looking straight over the barrel... makes for very intuitive fast and accurate shooting at close range. The rifle is still heavy so it doesn't exactly swing like a carbine, everything is a compromise and so is this rifle. A pure hunting rifle can easily be half the weight, I just wanted something more than that.
How much weight is that K98 of yours?
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Around 3kg with the suppressor and scope. Your rifle would be fun on a range, but I wouldn't like lugging it around in the mountains here. :)
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Haters gonna hate.
If push came to shove, I would bet my life on each of my 5 Chi-Com SKS rifles and my MAK-90 and my Type 53 (M44).
And... all my Chi-Coms have Chromed lined barrels, unlike your Yugo AKM (If it has a real Yugo barrel).
Picture is hard to tell... Aftermarket Muzzle brake on your Yugo AKM? Does it not have grenade sights?
:rofl you sound like an angry Chinaman. Maybe you were one of Stilwell's Chindits in a past life, eh?
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/6a387d11cfe2cf5f91c072c71d57eff5/tumblr_mny79vjZc31qbtzbno2_r1_500.gif)
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Around 3kg with the suppressor and scope. Your rifle would be fun on a range, but I wouldn't like lugging it around in the mountains here. :)
That's exactly what most people say. In my world, liking to carry a rifle is of lesser importance than dependability, but that's just me.
Shooting clay pigeons at 300 meters is a breeze. At 500 meters you hit a prone target with a 2 shot guarantee if you only know what you're doing. On the range it definitely has its place but on the hunt it's dependable even if not handled with great care. Much also depends on a good carry system if you're going distances, and if you're not going distances who the f cares? :D
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Sounds like your preferred game is the two-legged kind ;) Well, mine is now chambered for the 9.3 Mauser. It doesn't do very well beyond 300 meters due to the big bullet, but under 300 it will stop just about anything in one shot reliably, including bears. If I ever go to Africa to hunt some big game, this is the rifle I want. :)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/elgmauser.jpg)
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One of my neighbors has a 9.3 and I've seen what it can do to Elk. 2010 he shot a big male the bullet ripped through both lungs and a major piece of the heart was actually torn out of the animal to be found a couple meters behind it, the animal took one step forward and fell. The ballistics of the 9.3 is not impressive but the damage at close range, holy crap.
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:aok
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Suppressors, not silencers. And they sound nothing like in the movies. If the rounds are subsonic then you hear two things: the click of the firing mechanism, and the thud of the rounds impact. If the rounds are subsonic then you also hear the supersonic crack as the round travels down range.
Suppressors help save your ears, they also help accuracy (balance the barrel a bit, also remove turbulence from the muzzle area). When hunting game have trouble identifying which direction you are (they still hear the supersonic crack) - sometimes leaving you open for multiple shots (if you are shooting more than one animal, I've take down 8 feral goats in one quick session).
And my baby (Howa 243, Nikon scope, DPT Suppressor) - have heart shot a yearling fallow deer at 350m (that's 382 yards for you old worlders):
(http://www.gpforums.co.nz/attachment.php?s=&postid=7475146[)
ok. i had the right idea, but wrong words. whelp....we ain't allowed to have them here in pfrnj, 'cause possession of one of those evil evil mean looking things might make us into stark raving mad lunatics.
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:rofl you sound like an angry Chinaman. Maybe you were one of Stilwell's Chindits in a past life, eh?
:rofl You nailed it.
Seriously though, What's the specs on your Yugo? I have an M70 Underfolder, one of the earlier receiver Century versions. Curious as to what you got. <S>
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Theres something about Rem-700s that make them scarey accurate right out of the box. Everyone Ive ever shot seems to be more accurate then anything else you can buy off the shelf. All I did to mine was trigger it "I get all my rifles triggered to 3&1/2 lbs" and float it. (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/outdoors/shoot-1.jpg)
I load two rounds for it a 168 grn match and the 150 grn Sierra Game King. (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/outdoors/shoot-2.jpg) and have taken a lot of game with the GameKing SPBT. Its the most accurate hunting bullet Ive ever loaded.
But every 700 Ive ever shot has had more round to round accuracy then any other rifle maker Ive seen.
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I have to agree, the 700 is good. Here is mine after bedding it with Devcon. The barrel is also free-floating in the stock, a must for consistent accuracy. This was on a bipod 100 meters and even the lower right group I effed up on the leftmost round (#4 in the group) by holding up against the wind (which was picking up a lot) about twice as much as needed. Conclusion, the spread is all me. :D
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d33e/bf02lfpkpiqdt0e6g.jpg)
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Theres something about Rem-700s that make them scarey accurate right out of the box. Everyone Ive ever shot seems to be more accurate then anything else you can buy off the shelf. All I did to mine was trigger it "I get all my rifles triggered to 3&1/2 lbs" and float it.
That's not really out of the box then is it. My howa does sub-1" @ 100m (Howa make entry level rifles for Weatherby for the US market). I had a Baikal .243 I "home floated" and got it under 1" at 100m as well (the Baikal is Russian made single shot, rebadged by Remington for the US market iirc).
These days most rifles are good out of the box, it's the person behind it that makes the world of difference.
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That's not really out of the box then is it. My howa does sub-1" @ 100m (Howa make entry level rifles for Weatherby for the US market). I had a Baikal .243 I "home floated" and got it under 1" at 100m as well (the Baikal is Russian made single shot, rebadged by Remington for the US market iirc).
These days most rifles are good out of the box, it's the person behind it that makes the world of difference.
wellllll you know? it's like the "stock" mustang or camaro with a tune. not really stock anymore, lolololol
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These days most rifles are good out of the box, it's the person behind it that makes the world of difference.
+1..
I laugh at all these wanna be expert rifle reviewers on youtube and such, blathering on about accuracy and free-floating and bedding the receiver and re-crowning, etc. Truth is that a $300 Ruger American or Savage Axis, or 770, or even a $100 Mosin Nagant are more accurate out of the box (with decent ammo of course) then 90% of shooters behind them, any one of those is capable of 1-2 MOA accuracy with match grade ammo, trouble is that most shooters are not.
Bottom line is until you're better than 90% of the shooters out there, you'll get more accuracy out of practicing and improving your own skills, then you will tinkering with your rifle.
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:rofl You nailed it.
Seriously though, What's the specs on your Yugo? I have an M70 Underfolder, one of the earlier receiver Century versions. Curious as to what you got. <S>
I didn't want to answer until I dug out her rifle and looked it over. A little history. I bought the rifle from a friend of mine back in 1990. He bought it from an FFL dealer out of the guy's home in 1987. For some reason I always thought he said it was Yugoslav. Turns out I was wrong. According to my friend who I bought it from it is actually an East German MPi-K that had teak furniture installed after the fact. The rifle actually still has the full automatic sear spring in there but the sear was removed sometime after import. Apparently this is an indicator because they were imported intact and in mixed shipments with other nation's AKs and then sometimes sloppily demilitarized here.
I'm not an AK connoisseur so I don't know what it's worth but apparently it is a "mutt" surrounded by an East German receiver. It even has a custom rear blade sight that my friend machined himself to increase accuracy. He was always good at metal working and ballistics as long as I've known him. He makes a hobby of purchasing German G43s and making them shoot-able again.
Regardless, it is a handsome rifle, the wife is very comfortable with it and she loves to shoot it more than my bolt action dragons that kick something awful.
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I have to agree, the 700 is good. Here is mine after bedding it with Devcon. The barrel is also free-floating in the stock, a must for consistent accuracy. This was on a bipod 100 meters and even the lower right group I effed up on the leftmost round (#4 in the group) by holding up against the wind (which was picking up a lot) about twice as much as needed. Conclusion, the spread is all me. :D
Worth noting if you're shooting off a bipod make sure you're on a 'soft' surface. ie grass or dirt is good. If you're shooting off a benchrest (ie. concrete) then you will get some whacky results.
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I didn't want to answer until I dug out her rifle and looked it over. A little history. I bought the rifle from a friend of mine back in 1990. He bought it from an FFL dealer out of the guy's home in 1987. For some reason I always thought he said it was Yugoslav. Turns out I was wrong. According to my friend who I bought it from it is actually an East German MPi-K that had teak furniture installed after the fact. The rifle actually still has the full automatic sear spring in there but the sear was removed sometime after import. Apparently this is an indicator because they were imported intact and in mixed shipments with other nation's AKs and then sometimes sloppily demilitarized here.
I'm not an AK connoisseur so I don't know what it's worth but apparently it is a "mutt" surrounded by an East German receiver. It even has a custom rear blade sight that my friend machined himself to increase accuracy. He was always good at metal working and ballistics as long as I've known him. He makes a hobby of purchasing German G43s and making them shoot-able again.
Regardless, it is a handsome rifle, the wife is very comfortable with it and she loves to shoot it more than my bolt action dragons that kick something awful.
How bout some pics? East German receiver? Let's see it. <S>
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wellllll you know? it's like the "stock" mustang or camaro with a tune. not really stock anymore, lolololol
No but the two my kid has and the one I sold are or were. A lot of my friends have them. Ive never seen a Lemon out of the box 700.
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Worth noting if you're shooting off a bipod make sure you're on a 'soft' surface. ie grass or dirt is good. If you're shooting off a benchrest (ie. concrete) then you will get some whacky results.
I always shoot off of dirt, in the dirt is the preferred stance. :D