I'm confused. AH still has stall buffet FFB. My stick vibrates on stalling. What am I missing?715 it could be vastly better if they would have it be subtle at it's onset . Becoming more violent as the buffet increases. Would make for more immersed play. The way it is now it is either on or off. No shades of gray.
FLS will you just let it go. The stick vibrating to the stall horn made it harder to feel the edge of the envelope. Buffet is when you should feel the stick buffet. Stall should produce a lessening of return to center . Watch the video . See the slight tremble at the onset of buffet ? See it increase in frequency and duration as video progresses. A major bug was fixed. A design error was corrected . It is better but with some work it could be vastly improved.
It wasn't a bug. It was a useful feature.
It was wrong and counter productive. When you need the most finite amount of control the stick was bucking in your hand. When stall was on and buffet off you had buffet. when stall was off and buffet on nothing. By definition a bug end of story. Why don't you quit fighting with me and work together. You do not know what you are missing.
If I was suspicious I would say you removed it . I can't find it. Here is one where the pilot is talking about slight vibration then airframe buffet. Perfect explanation of what I and others would like to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK0AGh37rpg
Here is a better one showing the difference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoUF2MfDSiI Start at 5:00 minutes . Watch ,listen ,learn. Then if you persist, argue with your own senses. Really FLS do you think you hurt or help ffb in game with your attitude? It reminds me of three year olds playing and no one wants to play one kids game.
We used to have haptic feedback for the stall. I don't have a link but I saw a Steve Hinton video where he describes the P-51 stall being preceded by a vibration you could feel in the stick. We used to have that in Aces High. A player named hlbly convinced Pyro we shouldn't have it and it was removed from the FFB.You are correct. There is a vibration felt in the stick of the Mustang prior to the stall.
Good luck with your wish.
You are correct. There is a vibration felt in the stick of the Mustang prior to the stall.
It may not be accurate for all our aircraft
What bugs me about that is that Hitech has flown mock dogfights in a P-51 and they still removed it. It may not be accurate for all our aircraft but like the stall horn itself, it helps make up for sitting on the ground as we fly.If anything, the in game Mustang seems a bit more sensitive and eager to do the "funky chicken" than the real thing.
If anything, the in game Mustang seems a bit more sensitive and eager to do the "funky chicken" than the real thing.
In an accelerated stall there is also a unique low "buzz" sound accompanying the vibration that comes from the air flow around the wing root area.
I think our P-51 is more forgiving of pitch trim and snap rolls from what I've read. I'm not clear on what you mean by "funky chicken".What do you mean by "more forgiving of pitch trim and snap rolls"?
What do you mean by "more forgiving of pitch trim and snap rolls"?
The P-51 is sensitive to pitch and needs constant attention to pitch trim. The P-51 manual forbids snap rolls but in AH they are easy. You need to push into a negative G snap roll to get in any trouble.Real world, the Mustang requires constant trim adjustment with every power, flight control, and configuration change.
Real world, the Mustang requires constant trim adjustment with every power, flight control, and configuration change.
If real world airplanes require as much constant trimming as AH planes, then I'm glad I'm not rich and therefore cannot afford to fly real planes, because I would find that exceedingly annoying.There's a vast difference between the fighters of WWII that required manual trimming and today's modern fighters that auto trim to match the pilot's input. Trimming the Mustang real world is a minor issue compared to the fun and excitement of flying a piece of history.
If real world airplanes require as much constant trimming as AH planes, then I'm glad I'm not rich and therefore cannot afford to fly real planes, because I would find that exceedingly annoying.
There's a vast difference between the fighters of WWII that required manual trimming and today's modern fighters that auto trim to match the pilot's input. Trimming the Mustang real world is a minor issue compared to the fun and excitement of flying a piece of history.:airplane: Ever hear the expression, "Thumb the Ponie"? On cross country flights of 1 to 3 hours, after climbing out in the P-51K, I would set up cruise power, just a tad of nose up trim, place my right forearm on my right leg, place my right hand thumb on the back of the stick, with just a little bit of pressure, that way you don't drive your self crazy trimming all the time. Now that is in smooth air, not bumps from heat thermals or thunder storms around or wind shear. The ones I flew had a lot of air time and the engines were getting a high time inspection every 25 hours, as it was not unusual to fly one with the prop gov surging 10 to 25 RPM, then you had to constantly work at trimming the aircraft. To get the ponie on "step", you had to do the opposite, a slight nose down trim and holding a little tad of back pressure with your fingers to maintain the negative attitude that you wanted when on "step". On landing, in the 3 point stance, I could feel a slight buffet on the rudder pedals just prior to touch down. The flaps caused the buffet, because it wouldn't do it with a no flap landing. While the ponie is not a difficult aircraft to fly, you must remember that it is a high performance aircraft and should be treated as such. While practicing approach to landing stalls with gear down and full flaps, with, say, 8,000 feet as your runway height, then 10 foot prior to settling into the 8K mark, pretend a deer runs out on the runway and you have to go around! If you "jam" the throttle wide open, first thing that happens is your do a 1/2 snap to the left, and having to get the nose down to gain speed, even though you have raised the gear, you look at the altimeter and it says 7,200 feet, then you realize, you don't do anything rapidly in the ponie near the ground!
Don't be a silly hlbly. If anyone reading this thinks you ignore everything I write and just make stuff up refer them to me. :aokGot no idea what you are trying to say here. As I clearly stated you ignored my test to reproduce bug on FFB . Also to address one of your other statements . You are once again wrong. Entirely wrong. Trim is not modeled in here. When stall was removed so was trim since it did nothing. Man why participate in discussion when you do not keep current ? Puma I have a couple of questions for you I hope you will answer sir . As a pony goes slower does the stick become easier or more difficult to move ? What causes the initial subtle shaking of the stick ? Does the airframe vibrate ? Is it just vibration from one or more of the control surfaces ? Maybe Earl will answer ?
Got no idea what you are trying to say here. As I clearly stated you ignored my test to reproduce bug on FFB . Also to address one of your other statements . You are once again wrong. Entirely wrong. Trim is not modeled in here. When stall was removed so was trim since it did nothing. Man why participate in discussion when you do not keep current ? Puma I have a couple of questions for you I hope you will answer sir . As a pony goes slower does the stick become easier or more difficult to move ? What causes the initial subtle shaking of the stick ? Does the airframe vibrate ? Is it just vibration from one or more of the control surfaces ? Maybe Earl will answer ?1) As with most airplanes, the faster the airspeed, smaller control movement is required, and so as airspeed gets slower more control movement is required. So, it can be looked as more stick movement vs difficult to move.
Got no idea what you are trying to say here. As I clearly stated you ignored my test to reproduce bug on FFB . Also to address one of your other statements . You are once again wrong. Entirely wrong. Trim is not modeled in here. When stall was removed so was trim since it did nothing. Man why participate in discussion when you do not keep current ? Puma I have a couple of questions for you I hope you will answer sir . As a pony goes slower does the stick become easier or more difficult to move ? What causes the initial subtle shaking of the stick ? Does the airframe vibrate ? Is it just vibration from one or more of the control surfaces ? Maybe Earl will answer ?
The only use of Funky Chicken I have ever heard, is how a pilot looks when recovering from G lock.It kinda got used for all sorts of "Hey watch this" type maneuvers, HiTech.
Also I had a very difficult time feeling the edge in the Mustang for accelerated stalls as compared to other aircraft I a have flown. But a quick forward stick and rudder stomp always hooked me right back up after about a 1/4 to 1/2 snap. These were done at around 200 mph.
HiTech
It kinda got used for all sorts of "Hey watch this" type maneuvers, HiTech.those are not good words in the air, on the water or on the ground...
Okay puma let me see if I have this right. As a Pony approaches stall it requires more stick movement rather than the stick requiring less force to move . Is that correct ? As it goes faster it requires less movement but force required remains the same ? Like driving a car with power steering ? The faster you are going the less you need to move the steering wheel to do what you want . The effort to move the steering wheel remains the same ? Next if you could give me an analogy for trim that uses a tactile reference. Please explain what you mean by heavy . Last let me see if I have the pebbles rocks boulders analogy correct. As the aircraft approaches stall and the airframe begins to buffet. First you feel the pebbles small vibrations . As you get closer you feel the rocks moderate vibration . Just before stall you get the boulders . Severe vibration . Does the frequency of the vibration change as well ? Say the pebbles have a lower frequency and the boulders a higher frequency of vibration ? Puma I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this in layman terms. Please let me know if I have missed anything.:airplane: In the "Ponie", there is a wide range of control movement required to do certain procedures and or maneuvers! Think of it like this, and you will find it true with about any aircraft, (can't speak of jet aircraft, with auto-trim), The faster you are going, the more sensitive the controls, which require less movement to obtain the attitude that you want the aircraft in. The slower the speed, of course, now the controls are not as effective and require much more stick and rudder and elevator movement to maintain the attitude and airspeed which you want. As far as "flutter" or viberation of control surface's, you won't notice much in the ponie, except when you have ords racks hanging under the wing. Then you have a whole new set of aerodynamics which affect the aircraft at slow speeds, such as landings or stall practice.
those are not good words in the air, on the water or on the ground...Oh, so true!
Stall was removed? Trim was removed? Really? The only thing removed was the vibration you complained about.Yes stall slider was removed in clipboard/options/controls/force feedback. It is gone replaced by stall buffet and high speed buffet.Stop with the bs FLS . Read pumas reply to me about buffet. You wanted a vibration when there is no vibration in the airframe. You want it to vibrate when the stall horn sounds before the airframe vibrates.That is how it used to work and it felt like rocks as per the analogy. Problem is you are still on asphalt and you feel rocks. Plenty of other problems with that I don't want to rehash. Every FFB stick I have used has been exactly the same in FFB effects. Sidewinder effects Same as G940 same as Wingman Force . If you read PUMA's reply to me. I want exactly what he describes. I want pebbles , rocks , boulders. What we have is rocks. All we ever had is rocks where I set my FFB settings. I could turn buffet down and have pebbles I guess . It wont start until the plane hits rocks. Same with boulders, it will start as soon as we hit rocks. I want pebbles when I hit pebbles . I want rocks when I hit rocks. I want boulders when I hit boulders. FLS you are self centered. You want it wrong because you liked it wrong. If they could have stall and buffet separate. I would not care . Be wrong and enjoy . I will disable stall and no harm done. Maybe you can go somewhere and ask for that. Put stall back in simple. Everyone but you can disable stall . Quit asking me to want it wrong. I just want my pebbles rocks and boulders. Puma did the best job of explaining what I want that I ever heard. FLS you remember the guys name that was the voice that got it changed. It was never me. I tried for years. He did it in weeks. No problem there he is a pilot . I am not. I wish you would give me that name so when I am telling this story I can use the handles of the two guys that have been involved in this discussion . That are real pilots that helped me. Puma for his very clear explanations and analogies. The other guy for the sheer joy when he so politely told you . I was right all those and by extension these years and you have been the proud champion of I could not be more wrong if I tried. I was mistaken about trim I just never use it. Might be because I am learning what it is supposed to feel like. All I have ever talked about is buffet that I wanted. Quit trying to say I convinced them. I did not and you know it. You are so anal about what you want you dis rail every conversation there ever is about it. Let me ask you a question. Do you think I have paid my debt to the community for being ignorant about BBS etiquette and going off topic in your thread ? I know someone with such stellar manors like you has never been new to anything and made an error. If you look closely at the same time I was resurrecting dead threads to. Pardon me for failing to be perfect like you are. I will try to avoid petulant and contrary and childish as well. Did YOU read that slow enough to see sarcasm at any point. I had to delete 7 sentences FLS because I do not want this thread locked. I am not one of the cool kids in here. I really enjoy guys like Puma and NrShida. With them it is a discussion to learn. All you want to do is win. The problem is you want to blame me because something was fixed. One last thing here is a quote from you "The G-940 becomes harder to move with speed, as it should, unless it has the latest firmware, as I already mentioned. I explained this 3 years ago and again in this thread. That's a hardware problem that HTC cannot fix. You can't expect them to waste their time just because you don't get that. " Are you sure about that ? Are you sure that G940 does not become harder to move as you accelerate with new firmware ? Might want to try that out with some different settings in game and OUT just as I have tried to tell you before. It works as you describe for more than me. Just not very well. Guess what FLS . That to is the same no matter what FFB stick used.
The only bug you went on about in my old FFB thread was the reversal bug which I already addressed in this thread. I also explained in this thread why you don't feel the trim forces with a G-940. That's why I pointed out that you're ignoring everything I write here.
The G-940 becomes harder to move with speed, as it should, unless it has the latest firmware, as I already mentioned. I explained this 3 years ago and again in this thread. That's a hardware problem that HTC cannot fix. You can't expect them to waste their time just because you don't get that.
The only thing missing from Aces High FFB is the pre-stall vibration that you convinced them to remove. Before you complain again that I don't know what I'm talking about or I'm standing in the way of progress try rereading what I wrote. Slowly.
You've been wrong, rude, and insulting for 3 years now, all because I asked you once not to go off topic in my FFB thread with the unrelated reversal bug.
We dop not have accelerated stalls in here correct ? What causes them ? How do you recover from one ?
When you stall at more than 1G it's an accelerated stall. They're caused by pulling too much pitch. You recover by pulling less.
No sliders were removed or added. High speed buffet was never part of the stall. If you knew anything about stalls you wouldn't have posted this 3 weeks ago.Really so it is your position that the FFB in game control sliders are exactly the same as when you liked the FFB model ? That there was never a slider labeled "Stall" just the word stall ? That there never was a slider labeled just "Buffet". Is that what you are saying ? If I show you a screen shot that clearly has those will you leave me alone forever ? Will you stay out of every FFB thread posted as long as I am a member of this board ? If the sliders are not there I will stay out of every FFB thread as long as you are a member . Nor will I ever start one again. Want to wager 6 months of AH2 while we are at it ? My position is that there was a slider labeled buffet and only buffet. There was a slider labeled stall and only stall .How about it put your money where your mouth is ? Look I ain't greedy. I would just be absolutely tickled with just the first part of the wager.If either of us start a thread the loser stays out of it. Any thread that is about FFB the loser stays out of no matter who starts it. Loser does not get to start any FFB threads. :x :x :x :x :x
I was mistaken about trim I just never use it.
I'd say the sliders were renamed for clarity which is not the same as being removed and added.
I'd say the sliders were renamed for clarity which is not the same as being removed and added.Removed to avoid lock
Progress! :D
I got one of my G940s out of storage and hooked it up. It seems to work just like I said it did. :lolOkay FLS once again you try to obscure or deflect. Ignore what you do not like. Read Puma post . Problem is you are wrong. I have my G940 set up it does work just as I said. Not as you state. Once again you could not be more wrong.
If the stall buffet interferes with riding the edge just turn it down. :aok
I'd say the sliders were renamed for clarity which is not the same as being removed and added.Not fair you are debating someone who is honest FLS . I am not. Quit crayfishing . There used to be a slider labeled stall it was connected to the stall horn. It is gone. No other word works other than removed. There was never an effect labeled stall buffet. Nothing else works other than added. You said nothing added nothing removed. My God man have some strength of conviction.
Progress! :D
I'd say the sliders were renamed for clarity which is not the same as being removed and added.FLS if it is just a case of renamed for clarity why are we debating. Nothing is different just more clear. Whew debate over :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Progress! :D
When you said there were no trim forces I assumed your stick couldn't produce them. I didn't know you just never turned them on. I haven't tried the porked firmware in 3 years but I recall the trim forces not being the noticeable. If yours works there's half your wish granted! :aokIt had nothing to do with buffet. Do you have any idea how FFB works ? It was related to stall horn . Nothing to do with buffet. Try again. "It was removed" pretty much says it all . your confusion must be due to the fact stall horn was still blaring when the buffet is going on. Right ?
If you have a slider called "buffet" that adjusts high speed buffet, and a slider called "stall" that adjusts stall buffet, and you replace them with a slider called "high speed buffet" that adjusts high speed buffet , and a slider called "stall buffet" that adjusts stall buffet, then you really haven't removed and added sliders, you've just renamed the sliders you already had.
The vibration concurrent with the stall horn was part of the "stall" slider that also adjusted the stall buffet. It was removed at the time the sliders were renamed. This is a matter of record not opinion.
Can't figure this out but here it is.
When you said there were no trim forces I assumed your stick couldn't produce them. I KNEW THAT FROM YOUR OFFER TO SHARE YOUR SETTINGS WITH ME> I haven't tried the porked firmware in 3 years but I INSIST ON BEING A DISTRACTION SINCE MY EGO WAS CRUSHED BY BEING SHOWN WRONG BY A HLBLY. IF I GO AWAY FOREVER there's half HLBLY'S wish granted! :aokFixed . Quit teasing me .
If you have a slider called "buffet" that adjusts NOTHING, and a slider called "stall" that adjusts AN EFFECT LINKED TO A STALL HORN . YOU HAVE A BUG AND A MISTAKE .
The vibration concurrent with the stall horn was part of the BUG. This is a matter of record not opinion.
If you thought the buffet slider affected the stall buffet then it follows that you'd think it did nothing. The high speed buffet has nothing to do with the stall buffet. The sliders were relabeled to help you understand that. When you dive until the aircraft shakes you are seeing the high speed buffet. When you pull pitch until the aircraft shakes you are seeing the stall buffet.Thank you so much for this post. Clearly you know you are being less than truthful. This thread the first post tells it all now doesn't it. Please everyone read the first post in thread I am linking. It also gives me the name FLS did not want to reveal. The other pilot that has flown these planes and knows.
You could easily confirm that for yourself, since you loaded an old version of Aces High to take a screenshot of the FFB sliders, now that you know what they're supposed to do.
I'm gonna have to play with my FFB. I haven't messed with the sliders since day one with the G940.
I don't think the return to center works right in the game. It's super sloppy sitting still and much tighter at speed. That's always seemed not right to me.
Thank you so much for this post. Clearly you know you are being less than truthful. This thread the first post tells it all now doesn't it. Please everyone read the first post in thread I am linking. It also gives me the name FLS did not want to reveal. The other pilot that has flown these planes and knows.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,293214.0.html
Baumer is way smarter than me FLS he told you how it should be then ignored you. Another lie exposed can you go away now and quit with the childishness ?
I thought that was quite a good feature, in some real planes I have had a go in the stick is slack when there is no airflow over the surfaces. I think that the old warbirds had truly analog control with no auto centering of the stick without airflow. I could be totally wrong though :lol
Batty AirWarrior had the buffet right. Pebbles rocks boulders.
I thought that was quite a good feature, in some real planes I have had a go in the stick is slack when there is no airflow over the surfaces. I think that the old warbirds had truly analog control with no auto centering of the stick without airflow. I could be totally wrong though :lol
What your link actually shows is the confusion caused by the old slider labels which is why they were renamed. That's why my last comment in that link is that I forgot about the high speed buffet.
You might also note that Baumer and I had a civil conversation.
A truly heroic piece of goalpost moving in this thread FLS. More winning than Charlie Sheen :lol
Perhaps you didn't patronise him.
Do you have anything useful to add to this thread, or are you just here to run your mouth & troll as usual?
or are you just here to run your mouth & troll as usual?
What your link actually shows is the confusion caused by the old slider labels which is why they were renamed. That's why my last comment in that link is that I forgot about the high speed buffet.The last post made by Baumer shows how hard it was to remain polite with you . Note the sarcasm engage.
You might also note that Baumer and I had a civil conversation.
Do you have anything useful to add to this thread, or are you just here to run your mouth & troll as usual?Ranger this thread has been derailed from the beginning. It was about making the stall buffet better in FFB. Years ago I found a bug in the system while trying to figure out how to say the stall buffet was wrong. At first I just knew it felt wrong compared to other sims I had flown. During my research while playing with settings I found the bug. Before posting I also found out how it should work. So now armed with a cogent well thought out argument I posted. Every thread I started every one about ffb I entered. I was soon assaulted by FLS and his cheerleaders. My only progress, HTC acknowledged the bug. Nothing was done to fix it or the incorrect stall buffet no matter what I tried thanks a great deal,I suspect, to FLS . Things remained the same for years until a guy named Baumer showed up . A retired Navy pilot and someone like Puma had flown some of the planes in the game. He basically said I was right and FLS and crew were wrong. Few days later FFB bug and stall error were fixed. Did this stop FLS from trolling ? Well look at this thread and you decide. What really cracks me up is when FLS tells NrShida he does not know what he is talking about. NrShida did a university paper on haptics. I believe while going to school for programming. FLS has a superiority complex when it comes to me. No doubt due to education. The line in my signature is a quote from a West Point graduate that was my platoon leader. He was talking to an ROTC graduate about listening to me when in the field. It is there in direct response to how I used to let FLS make me feel. Call it trolling if you will but if you read all the threads where FLS comes to derail them. You will note he just "moves the goal post" when he is wrong in a statement. A perfect example is his statement about how he and Baumer had a civilized conversation. It went slightly sarcastic on Baumer's side. Went no further because Baumer refused to debate him any more.
A truly heroic piece of goalpost moving in this thread FLS. More winning than Charlie Sheen :lolOh he did. You will note if you go back to the linked thread FLS was his usual charming self. Baumer got quite sarcastic with him. It is SOP for FLS and he is just moving the goalpost again.
Perhaps you didn't patronise him.
Wow, you two are still going at each other? How about taking a deep breath, relax, and let it go. It appears you're never going to agree, so why not agree that the other guy is wrong and mosey on to something else. :salute
Don't be impatient. Hlbly has already learned one thing. Two to go. :DGood, at least you're smiling :rofl
I just hope the Harley reference wasn't about my avatar. :lol
Don't be impatient. Hlbly has already learned one thing. Two to go. :DThe only thing I have learned is you do not learn. That and well some women should unhinge their jaw and swallow some children whole.
I just hope the Harley reference wasn't about my avatar. :lol
The only thing I have learned is you do not learn...
What you learned so far, is that trim is already a part of the FFB. There are more lessons to come.
Hlbly you didn't explain the Harley remark. Did you really confuse an aircraft with a motorcycle?
Btw if you don't take the opportunity to prove me wrong people are likely to think that you did test the old version but for some inexplicable reason you don't want to post the results.
Hlbly you didn't explain the Harley remark. Did you really confuse an aircraft with a motorcycle?The way you compensate really ? A big bike or a small jet. I think you are once again trying to cloud what the truth is. :aok Like you do not ignore people points or things. Time to reply to nrshida I would say. The thread was not about trim. Good thing for you because you know nothing about trim I would wager . ;) Wrong again with your assumption about high speed buffet being controlled by buffet slider on this patch. Good guess but wrong patch for it to control high speed buffet. It is a pre Baumer's input patch. Guess again. Only one answer left .....stretch FLS you can do it.
Btw if you don't take the opportunity to prove me wrong people are likely to think that you did test the old version but for some inexplicable reason you don't want to post the results.
Wow, you two are still going at each other? How about taking a deep breath, relax, and let it go. It appears you're never going to agree, so why not agree that the other guy is wrong and mosey on to something else. :saluteSorry Puma . I have let it go many times. I am right and he is wrong and I just don't think quitting has helped anything in the past. I want him to stop derailing my threads. I want him to leave me alone. Backing down from a bully only leads to more abuse. It is always that way with cowards and bullies. I have sought him out not one time. I can not post a thread about anything that he can take a contrary stand on he does not interject himself. I have dealt with it for years. The smile was nothing friendly or even true on his part. It was simply another attempt to goad me. He does not need to goad me. I will not back down from him anymore. Several posts back I said it was my last reply to him. I went through everything we have butted heads on. Backing down always leads to more of the same.
Sorry Puma . I have let it go many times. I am right and he is wrong and I just don't think quitting has helped anything in the past. I want him to stop derailing my threads. I want him to leave me alone. Backing down from a bully only leads to more abuse. It is always that way with cowards and bullies. I have sought him out not one time. I can not post a thread about anything that he can take a contrary stand on he does not interject himself. I have dealt with it for years. The smile was nothing friendly or even true on his part. It was simply another attempt to goad me. He does not need to goad me. I will not back down from him anymore. Several posts back I said it was my last reply to him. I went through everything we have butted heads on. Backing down always leads to more of the same.
Awww dang bullies
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Incogneto,
The way you compensate really ? A big bike or a small jet. I think you are once again trying to cloud what the truth is. :aok Like you do not ignore people points or things. Time to reply to nrshida I would say. The thread was not about trim. Good thing for you because you know nothing about trim I would wager . ;) Wrong again with your assumption about high speed buffet being controlled by buffet slider on this patch. Good guess but wrong patch for it to control high speed buffet. It is a pre Baumer's input patch. Guess again. Only one answer left .....stretch FLS you can do it.
So you now finally admit that the buffet slider does control the high speed buffet on the older version. That's 2 down, one to go.Hey gashole....can you read? Do you know how to click a link ? Last post in this thread from sudz.
Your claim that the buffet slider was previously "fixed" is not believable. It was never broken.
Did you happen to also test the Stall slider to confirm it controls the stall buffet as well as the vibration that was removed?
Edit: I think I got the small jet reference. That's the previous avatar and the motorcycle is the current avatar? The "small jet" is my dad landing his sailplane at Harris Hill. I took the photo, it was printed in Sport Aviation magazine, ironically there was no compensation. The "motorcycle" is his Tiger Moth biplane.
As you yourself just proved in your own test. The buffet slider controlled the high speed buffet. The names were confusing everybody so they renamed them. Anyone with an old version and FFB stick can confirm that, but you already did it for them. :aokAre the words too big ? Did skuzzy confuse you with "buffet" not working ? Was the use of the word "bug" by sudz too much ? Are you really that dense? Bet you were potty trained with a shotgun!
I've learned to not argue with Skuzzy when he has the source code.Thats one.
I will just ignore FLS.
I've learned to not argue with Skuzzy when he has the source code.