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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Vinkman on December 05, 2013, 09:31:35 AM
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New Mustang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YzdTldKvoE
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Smaller engine option,even our muscle cars are turning into gas sipping wusses.
I miss commercials that always said the 0 to 60 rating ,now its always mph and no one cares about performance.
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Smaller engine option,even our muscle cars are turning into gas sipping wusses.
I miss commercials that always said the 0 to 60 rating ,now its always mph and no one cares about performance.
you can blame the wonderful EPA for that. :aok It's ridiculous that diesel truck now have to fill an EXHAUST FLUID UREA TANK or the truck will go into half performance mode.
Cool looking car though!
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Reminds me to some late '90s or early 2000s Aston Martin.
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If they reverted to the 2005 body, which was beefier in my opinion, and then added the lip over the rear quarter panel, that would give it the real retro look they are going for. This one looks like an acura :( Oh well, I'll keep mine, not enough there to entice me out of it.
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It's in the starting to look like everything else mode now. No longer has that distinctive Mustang look. IMO.
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post pictures plz can't be bothered to watch this.
I'm a little disappointed as I was expecting something about a new P-51 :cry
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Smaller engine option,even our muscle cars are turning into gas sipping wusses.
I miss commercials that always said the 0 to 60 rating ,now its always mph and no one cares about performance.
The 4 cylinder has more HP and torque than the last V6
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Think they'll make it so it can go round corners this time? :bolt:
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Cars these days look like they take a plastic model from the past version, put it in the microwave, and what comes out is the new model. The melting effect.
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I will let you guys know how the new one's go when I beat the squealing crap out of the first one off the delivery truck :devil
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The 4 cylinder has more HP and torque than the last V6
But not the v8 ,the real muscle car engine .
Sport cars come with 4 and 6 cylinders muscle cars come with 8.
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Still going with the Camaro when I get enough cash. I've driven both, and the Camaro just feels right in a way the mustang doesn't match.
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Not the brand new models, obviously :frown:.
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Cars these days look like they take a plastic model from the past version, put it in the microwave, and what comes out is the new model. The melting effect.
You mean like microwave chia pet cars?
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Mustang is the only way to go!
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all the cars these days are looking more and more alike :(
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Reminds me to some late '90s or early 2000s Aston Martin.
According to "Top Gear"(UK) we Americans don't know how to build a decent car, but then two of the three hosts own Fords :lol
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Those guys crack me up.
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Watch the episode with the ZR1, Challenger, and Cadillac CTS V. They hated the Challenger, but loved the other 2. And over in the UK, try finding a car for the same price that will do what the ZR1 will do, and good luck.
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Smaller engine option,even our muscle cars are turning into gas sipping wusses.
I miss commercials that always said the 0 to 60 rating ,now its always mph and no one cares about performance.
New 5.0 makes 430HP
New 2.3L I4 GTDI makes 300HP.
And the new car has an IRS, which is really the big upgrade that drove the new platform. :salute
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I want one. :eek:
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According to "Top Gear"(UK) we Americans don't know how to build a decent car, but then two of the three hosts own Fords :lol
oh, the british... :lol
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Watch the episode with the ZR1, Challenger, and Cadillac CTS V. They hated the Challenger, but loved the other 2. And over in the UK, try finding a car for the same price that will do what the ZR1 will do, and good luck.
they also didn't like the zr1 because it was to powerful in some ways lol
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here's mine... 11.35@119 in the quarter on motor :rock
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff413/Bubba408str/IMAG0489_zpsd00dea56.jpg) (http://s1234.photobucket.com/user/Bubba408str/media/IMAG0489_zpsd00dea56.jpg.html)
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Smaller engine option,even our muscle cars are turning into gas sipping wusses.
I miss commercials that always said the 0 to 60 rating ,now its always mph and no one cares about performance.
5.0-420+hp-390 trqe----3.7v6-300+hp 270trqe--2.0ecoboost 305+hp 300trqe---not excactly wussies in my book.
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New 5.0 makes 430HP
New 2.3L I4 GTDI makes 300HP.
And the new car has an IRS, which is really the big upgrade that drove the new platform. :salute
hehe i'm a parts dept. manager at a ford dealer.i get to see them first.hehe--you forgot 3.7--300+hp 270trqe
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The new base model with the ecoboost is going to be every kids dream car for a first vehicle. It'll be cheap compared to most cars, predictions are under 23$k, and with 300hp, compared to the 5.0 GT of my day in high school, it will have 75 more HP and more torque. There was a 4 cyl turbo mustang back in 1985 or so, it was a neat vehicle then. This new base model with some cheap mods will easily be in the 350 hp range, and the 14 or even high 13 second range factory, which is very impressive for a cheap new vehicle. They will sell like hotcakes I'm betting.
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The new base model with the ecoboost is going to be every kids dream car for a first vehicle. It'll be cheap compared to most cars, predictions are under 23$k, and with 300hp, compared to the 5.0 GT of my day in high school, it will have 75 more HP and more torque. There was a 4 cyl turbo mustang back in 1985 or so, it was a neat vehicle then. This new base model with some cheap mods will easily be in the 350 hp range, and the 14 or even high 13 second range factory, which is very impressive for a cheap new vehicle. They will sell like hotcakes I'm betting.
Gman, that 85 turbo 4 was the svo mustang! I drove many of them and I think it will be the option of choice for many!
The Eco4 should have a better weight bias,add in IRS and you might have a stang that turns! I see it as a tuners car also with aftermarket coolers and higher boosts who know how much power you can squeeze outta those little mills.
Ya I know no replacement for displacement but there comes a point where it's only good in a straight line.
Personally I like cars that will turn corners more than cars that will tear up the 1/4 mile but to each their own. I might just have to make a trip to test drive one of these{econobox} stangs.
:salute
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This new one has the open mouth RAWR look of the original Mustang with a sleek, low to the ground sporty look... Like the original 1960s fastback mixed with modern sport technology.
I think I just had an accident in the nether regions... :O
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The new base model with the ecoboost is going to be every kids dream car for a first vehicle. It'll be cheap compared to most cars, predictions are under 23$k, and with 300hp, compared to the 5.0 GT of my day in high school, it will have 75 more HP and more torque. There was a 4 cyl turbo mustang back in 1985 or so, it was a neat vehicle then. This new base model with some cheap mods will easily be in the 350 hp range, and the 14 or even high 13 second range factory, which is very impressive for a cheap new vehicle. They will sell like hotcakes I'm betting.
Bottom line performance is pretty darn good. FWIW the 3.7L 6 from 2011-2014 is good to about 600hp on stock internals before it kabooms. A $5k procharger and a few basic mods get you 450RWHP with better weight distribution than the 5.0.
I've enjoyed my little ecobox convertible immensely! Exceeded expectations in all areas!
Says the guy building an LS swap C3 Corvette to race :)
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I'd like to see them shove a modernized version of the super-charged V6 the 91 TBird Super Coupes had. I loved my 91 SC and it would flat run but imagine that one in these Plasto cars.
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Smaller engine option,even our muscle cars are turning into gas sipping wusses.
I miss commercials that always said the 0 to 60 rating ,now its always mph and no one cares about performance.
still has the 5 liter coyote option...and that engine ain't no wuss.
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Reminds me to some late '90s or early 2000s Aston Martin.
that's what i was thinking. then i was on svtpperformance.com, and found a graphic of the suspensions. the front suspension is definitly euro influenced. i went looking a bit farther, and found the ford mondeo in england looks an aaawwwwffffuuuullll lot like the new stang, but with two extra doors. i gotta dig deeper yet.
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If they reverted to the 2005 body, which was beefier in my opinion, and then added the lip over the rear quarter panel, that would give it the real retro look they are going for. This one looks like an acura :( Oh well, I'll keep mine, not enough there to entice me out of it.
i think they're slowly moving away from retro. even the commercial i saw on svtperformance showed that they're aiming at young drivers now, not us almost old guys.
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Think they'll make it so it can go round corners this time? :bolt:
would you believe me if i told you there's video estimating the gt500 going around the ring faster than the zl1? the thing corners like a slot car now. with irs, it'll corner even better.
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here's mine... 11.35@119 in the quarter on motor :rock
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff413/Bubba408str/IMAG0489_zpsd00dea56.jpg) (http://s1234.photobucket.com/user/Bubba408str/media/IMAG0489_zpsd00dea56.jpg.html)
what's she run without the drag radials and skinnys?
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Smaller engine option,even our muscle cars are turning into gas sipping wusses.
I miss commercials that always said the 0 to 60 rating ,now its always mph and no one cares about performance.
Except the new Viper. Dodge still putting pride into its muscle. Mmm 600 hp
(http://blog.bosakmotor.com.php53-10.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2013-Dodge-Viper-2.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lK_b-5gerM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c62cQBkQnIY
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post pictures plz can't be bothered to watch this.
I'm a little disappointed as I was expecting something about a new P-51 :cry
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Except the new Viper. Dodge still putting pride into its muscle. Mmm 600 hp
(http://blog.bosakmotor.com.php53-10.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2013-Dodge-Viper-2.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lK_b-5gerM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c62cQBkQnIY
how much does that thing cost?
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Meh, not particularly impressed with the body update. As was already pointed out earlier in the thread, it's increasingly looking like every other car on the market.
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Still going with the Camaro when I get enough cash. I've driven both, and the Camaro just feels right in a way the mustang doesn't match.
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Not the brand new models, obviously :frown:.
Watch this video, then understand why the Mustang is better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWCnRWiqt8
As far as that new Mustang goes, I like everything EXCEPT the front end.
My god. It sucks.
A lot.
No, More than a lot.
It's just straight up ugly.
would you believe me if i told you there's video estimating the gt500 going around the ring faster than the zl1? the thing corners like a slot car now. with irs, it'll corner even better.
Found that video for all of us.
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how much does that thing cost?
$100k, the top of the line model is $15k more.
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Watch this video, then understand why the Mustang is better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWCnRWiqt8
As far as that new Mustang goes, I like everything EXCEPT the front end.
My god. It sucks.
A lot.
No, More than a lot.
It's just straight up ugly.
Found that video for all of us.
I think this counts for more than top-end performance 99.999% of us will never ever use at any point during the life of the car.
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This Mustang owner likes the new look. They are definitely moving toward a new modern look but still retained classic mustang lines.
Ford has not released official power figures for the GT but have stated there will be an increase. My guess is close to 450 HP at the crank.
Rumor has it there will not be a supercharged Shelby GT500. I hope this is untrue. What speculation I have read is they will go with a SVT designed GT350 which will be naturally aspirated. The car supposedly will be race inspired - read really lightened track car.
I will wait and see. I am considering selling my 2010 here in Europe hoping to get more money out of the car. I have had a few serious offers from locals but at the time had no desire to sell the car. I have too much money in it to sell it in the States.
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb1/bigsargewells/9321AD90-FE62-4401-B071-B0B4962E532E-5070-000009DB4F910DDE.jpg) (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/bigsargewells/media/9321AD90-FE62-4401-B071-B0B4962E532E-5070-000009DB4F910DDE.jpg.html)
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$100k, the top of the line model is $15k more.
so for $30k less, you get more hp, back seat, and a ford that'll plant yer eyeballs in the back of yer head, and corner almost as well as a zl1. hhmm....seems like a no brainer to me. :devil
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This Mustang owner likes the new look. They are definitely moving toward a new modern look but still retained classic mustang lines.
Ford has not released official power figures for the GT but have stated there will be an increase. My guess is close to 450 HP at the crank.
Rumor has it there will not be a supercharged Shelby GT500. I hope this is untrue. What speculation I have read is they will go with a SVT designed GT350 which will be naturally aspirated. The car supposedly will be race inspired - read really lightened track car.
I will wait and see. I am considering selling my 2010 here in Europe hoping to get more money out of the car. I have had a few serious offers from locals but at the time had no desire to sell the car. I have too much money in it to sell it in the States.
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb1/bigsargewells/9321AD90-FE62-4401-B071-B0B4962E532E-5070-000009DB4F910DDE.jpg) (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/bigsargewells/media/9321AD90-FE62-4401-B071-B0B4962E532E-5070-000009DB4F910DDE.jpg.html)
i found a rumor the other night, that that gt350 you mentioned is supposed to be the answer to the z28. if it is, i would presume it'll be just like gt500 vs zl1.....'cept that with the irs, the z's gonna have more trouble with this, than the zl has with the gt500
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(http://2fe66ead98a9d8367e69-183c3b2eaab36bc0f4003ed58203ce4f.r99.cf1.rackcdn.com/2015-mustang-news-rumors_5891.jpg)
Widewing's posted photo's from Car and Driver are not the actual car but renderings of What C&D thought the car would look like. The actual car is better looking.
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so for $30k less, you get more hp, back seat, and a ford that'll plant yer eyeballs in the back of yer head, and corner almost as well as a zl1. hhmm....seems like a no brainer to me. :devil
Yeah, but it also looks a hell of a lot nicer.
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I have 100 more HP than a Z06 and I can't keep up with them. Corvettes are just frickin fast.
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I have 100 more HP than a Z06 and I can't keep up with them. Corvettes are just frickin fast.
i never try to compare a mustang to a vette. if ford put the gt40 back in the lineup....that'd be a comparison........
also don't forget....that z06 is about 300-500# lighter than your stang.
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This is my Daughter's Camaro used in advertising at SEMA.
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Here are a few more pics...
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Photo from Super Chevy Magazine as we pulled into the Super Chevy Show....
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Nice Color :aok Stands out against all those posers with red ones. :devil
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i never try to compare a mustang to a vette. if ford put the gt40 back in the lineup....that'd be a comparison........
also don't forget....that z06 is about 300-500# lighter than your stang.
Also likely a bit more aerodynamic without that blunt front-end.
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I think this counts for more than top-end performance 99.999% of us will never ever use at any point during the life of the car.
You might not use it but I sure as hell will when I get the chance to take it down to the drag strip.
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That's true. I have had my car over 300 KPH but I have no desire to do it on a frequent basis. Bad things can happen at insane speeds
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That's true. I have had my car over 300 KPH but I have no desire to do it on a frequent basis. Bad things can happen at insane speeds
Easily. The margin for error starts to plummet once you cross the 100mph threshold.
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so for $30k less, you get more hp, back seat, and a ford that'll plant yer eyeballs in the back of yer head, and corner almost as well as a zl1. hhmm....seems like a no brainer to me. :devil
0-60 time :rock
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Ford has let me down too many times to ever buy another one of the cars again.
Trucks, yes. Cars, no way. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice (at the cost of a new automatic tranny with only 122k miles on the Mustang) shame on me again.
The next 'muscle car' (if I ever purchase one) will NOT be a Ford unless of course it's a classic car.
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The last two generations of mustang were directly influenced by the aston martin's previous generation model.
The current mustang is no different.
The interesting part is that the aston martin vantage was influenced by the early mustang so it comes full circle.
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ford mondeo.
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Meant to say the last generation mustang was influenced by the vantage.........not the last two.
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Ford has let me down too many times to ever buy another one of the cars again.
Trucks, yes. Cars, no way. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice (at the cost of a new automatic tranny with only 122k miles on the Mustang) shame on me again.
The next 'muscle car' (if I ever purchase one) will NOT be a Ford unless of course it's a classic car.
auto Mustang? what year was that? What engine?
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This Mustang owner likes the new look. They are definitely moving toward a new modern look but still retained classic mustang lines.
Ford has not released official power figures for the GT but have stated there will be an increase. My guess is close to 450 HP at the crank.
Rumor has it there will not be a supercharged Shelby GT500. I hope this is untrue. What speculation I have read is they will go with a SVT designed GT350 which will be naturally aspirated. The car supposedly will be race inspired - read really lightened track car.
I will wait and see. I am considering selling my 2010 here in Europe hoping to get more money out of the car. I have had a few serious offers from locals but at the time had no desire to sell the car. I have too much money in it to sell it in the States.
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb1/bigsargewells/9321AD90-FE62-4401-B071-B0B4962E532E-5070-000009DB4F910DDE.jpg) (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/bigsargewells/media/9321AD90-FE62-4401-B071-B0B4962E532E-5070-000009DB4F910DDE.jpg.html)
I'll give ya $5 :)
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My very first legal car, I bought a few cars and Bikes when I was 15yo so they were technically illegal.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/1966Mustang_zps7cfbb092.jpg)
I found it on a used car lot in 1974 with 32,000 miles on it. It was "Tits". This is not the exact car but it was a carbon copy. A '66 powder blue with custom Pony interior, a 289 V8, black vinyl top. This was my High school car complete with 8-track player and plenty of music cassettes. Hell of a year 1974. ;)
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My very first legal car, I bought a few cars and Bikes when I was 15yo so they were technically illegal.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/1966Mustang_zps7cfbb092.jpg)
I found it on a used car lot in 1974 with 32,000 miles on it. It was "Tits". This is not the exact car but it was a carbon copy. A '66 powder blue with custom Pony interior, a 289 V8, black vinyl top. This was my High school car complete with 8-track player and plenty of music cassettes. Hell of a year 1974. ;)
Beauty. Like I'd said, whenever I can afford one, I'm just going to have a custom shop build me something around one of the reproduction '65 bodies that's available.
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auto Mustang? what year was that? What engine?
there has never been a generation of mustang without an auto trans option.
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Meant to say the last generation mustang was influenced by the vantage.........not the last two.
i honestly thought that this next gen was gonna be a re-skinned aston.