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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Chris79 on January 26, 2014, 03:06:26 PM
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This being my one year anniversary of subscribing to AH, I was curious as to whether other players have progressed in a similar fashion.
1. 1st three months, clueless, every time you up, your just giving a red guy free perks.
2. 2nd 2 months, pretty much gave up on fighters, started upping gv's and buffs.
3. 3rd 2 months I've finally adhered to the advice of more experienced players, found a fighter I liked and stuck with it. By this time I am starting to be able to hold my own a little, attempting to not HO, I still will vulch when applicable.
4. 4th 3 months, I'm starting to build confidence although I am still dead 1v1 against a good player. Durring this same time period I am learning complete and utter contemp towards pony drivers who do nothing but HO and pick.
5. Last two months, although I will admit that I still participate in horde base taking, I find my self more and more seeking 1v1 against good players, and upping against the horde.
6. This is a great game with a great player base minus a few exceptions, and if your are a rook or knit flying a pony, jug, or 38 and you come across a bish yak, my advice, run and hide.
I don't always up fighters, but when I do, its a Yak3
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Whats your in game name? Maybe I've run across your Yak.
As for how you moved through the game I think to most players that stick around this is the path they take. Everyone gets there butt handed to them in the first few months. Flying in buffs and GVs are a great way to stay IN the game and not feel so over whelmed. Learning a plane and sticking with it is a good way to go, but don't avoid the other planes. Learning them will give you a better understanding of how to fight them.
Glad your still having a good time even after a year or getting smashed around. <S>
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Chuikov
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6. This is a great game with a great player base minus a few exceptions, and if your are a rook or knit flying a pony, jug, or 38 and you come across a bish yak, my advice, run and hide.
What about the 190Ds? ;)
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From my experience the planes that give me the most trouble are the ki-84 and 109k4. I find most U.S planes to be inferior in rate of turn and climb, and spits and La's to be for the most part flown by inexperienced players. I do up jugs and ponies for jabo's, and Dora's for de-ack. I will on occasion go in to different arenas to experiment with different aircraft
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I find the dora in the hands of a good stick a formidable foe, however, they do tend to run away
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You're looking for 1v1 ad fighters... You are wasted on the bishops.
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my 38 eats yaks for a mid summers snack
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With that logic, seing that being a bish that it is difficult albeit not impossible to find a good fight, that if I were to switch sides and fight against the bish it would be easier to find a good 1v1?
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Last time I lost a 1v1 co e co alt against a U.S Plane while in a YAk was against HellAugr in the DA
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Last time I lost a 1v1 co e co alt against a U.S Plane while in a YAk was against HellAugr in the DA
HellAugr is a bnz fighter
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Maybe, but I've seen him stall fight a pony expectionaly
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Also, of you are from Apollo beach fl, we are pretty much neighbors.
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Dude, just buy and read "Fighter Combat" by Robert Shaw. The you'll have an idea of what you're trying to do in ACM. These pilots and websites that try to teach you, God bless 'em, but most of them aren't conveying a holistic picture of the whole affair clearly.
This being my one year anniversary of subscribing to AH, I was curious as to whether other players have progressed in a similar fashion.
1. 1st three months, clueless, every time you up, your just giving a red guy free perks.
2. 2nd 2 months, pretty much gave up on fighters, started upping gv's and buffs.
3. 3rd 2 months I've finally adhered to the advice of more experienced players, found a fighter I liked and stuck with it. By this time I am starting to be able to hold my own a little, attempting to not HO, I still will vulch when applicable.
4. 4th 3 months, I'm starting to build confidence although I am still dead 1v1 against a good player. Durring this same time period I am learning complete and utter contemp towards pony drivers who do nothing but HO and pick.
5. Last two months, although I will admit that I still participate in horde base taking, I find my self more and more seeking 1v1 against good players, and upping against the horde.
6. This is a great game with a great player base minus a few exceptions, and if your are a rook or knit flying a pony, jug, or 38 and you come across a bish yak, my advice, run and hide.
I don't always up fighters, but when I do, its a Yak3
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HellAugr is a bnz fighter
This is the sort of thing I'm talking about...if you're flying a Pony against an F4F, you're a bnz/energy fighter. Against a 190-D9 at low alt, you're an angles fighter. Speaking relatively in general terms.
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Dude, just buy and read "Fighter Combat" by Robert Shaw. The you'll have an idea of what you're trying to do in ACM. These pilots and websites that try to teach you, God bless 'em, but most of them aren't conveying a holistic picture of the whole affair clearly.
Yes, pretty much the same. Upped in a horde attack you were on last week. I remember you were in the yak and just about everyone else upped 38's. One step you left out, After I get my butt ground up I leave the tape rolling a bit, hopefully the fight stays in range so I can watch others and how they keep from ending up like I did. First lesson I got was 38 has dive breaks!!! OOps would have used them, but nope. lol :bhead :headscratch: :bhead
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There are primarily four situations you encounter Durring prime time hours, base take " generally implies a horde", base defense " flying against a horde", furball "horde on horde", and finally flying solo to an enemy base. Durring base take ops I tend to fly the pony " difficult to drop hangers in a yak" how ever if some one calls for a cap I will up a yak. Since I am not the biggest fan of losing I do tend to join some missions. That being so the Bish tend to be outnumbered Durring prime time hours so I am primarily regulated to base defense. I have found the best time to engage a 1v1 is between 12pm and 4pm est and then between 11pm and 1am est
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6. This is a great game with a great player base minus a few exceptions
Yes, yes it is. Glad you stuck with it long enough to have learned these lessons.
You're here for good now, I hope you realize that.
- oldman
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One year approaching myself and the plane I find myself in time and again is the ki-84, and I truly do enjoy a good 1v1, but really any situation u learn from was a good one, and as always top on the list is having fun. :cheers:
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One year approaching myself and the plane I find myself in time and again is the ki-84, and I truly do enjoy a good 1v1, but really any situation u learn from was a good one, and as always top on the list is having fun. :cheers:
that is a damn good choice in a plane.... :rock
I think for fighting lone wolf in the MA there is no "better" then the Ki84......
funny I don't fly much anymore but FSO and a couple hours before that....we had the P39D....so I take it to TT I engage a couple fighters...3 sorties....all ended with me fighting at least 3 to 5 guys.....no kills.....
I am fighting hard....stall buzzer screaming....trying to get that 39 to perform...missed by a huge margin any shot I may have gotten....
say ok screw this...Ki84 time......I go back and engage a couple more red...end up fighting at least 7 red guys...kill one here and there more come in.....I get 3 kills and and get to go land when bingo ammo...shot up missing pieces.....
Love the Ki84 beware of the Deaths head :rock
as far as the OP.....nope I started out different....I took to fighters naturally.... jumped in a zero and went to the biggest dar.....by the second month I think I got 400 kills...yes I died over 600 times...haha and was called a cheater within my first 2 weeks of playing :rofl.....never having flown a flying game before...except Fighter Ace for about a month....
I wanted to become one of if not the most feared fighter in the air.....
sadly my aim is so horrible I will never get to being that feared stick I wanted to be :cry
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Sorry about that M3......I was headed to your field of origin and we would have passed without seeing each other except that I hid in a barn to make a sandwich and heard you.
I like pilots here who are intrepid enough to do such things.
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Against a 190-D9 at low alt, you're an angles fighter.
Ehm... try it ;)
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Ehm... try it ;)
I have from, both sides. The P-51D at low altitude has worse climb, acceleration, and top speed, and better turn radius. That clearly makes it the angles fighter vs. the 190-D9 in AHII.
Somewhere there is an old combat report from a P-51B pilot successfully avoiding a D9 pilot by turning, but the D9 pilot uses vertical tactics on him to keep lining up shots until the Bravo pilot dove out...alas I can't remember the pilot's name and thus cannot find it online.
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I have from, both sides. The P-51D at low altitude has worse climb, acceleration, and top speed, and better turn radius. That clearly makes it the angles fighter vs. the 190-D9 in AHII.
Somewhere there is an old combat report from a P-51B pilot successfully avoiding a D9 pilot by turning, but the D9 pilot uses vertical tactics on him to keep lining up shots until the Bravo pilot dove out...alas I can't remember the pilot's name and thus cannot find it online.
Just try it ;) Pony vs Dora was my favourite matchup, nearly equal aircrafts with the Dora having advantage in the uphill and the Pony in the downhill. The one who can force his fight on the other, wins.
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It takes a long time and a lot of practice to get really good in this game. I'm approaching 8 years soon and I'm still learning!
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It takes a long time and a lot of practice to get really good in this game. I'm approaching 8 years soon and I'm still learning!
Knowing u have 8 vice my one year makes me feel good about lasting more then one merge with you 9/10 times resulting in my death but that one time does feel good :cheers:
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i'm not through my first year yet, but have had a similar training path. Started out just wanted to hear the guns go pew! pew! and keep my aircraft in the air. This transitioned quickly into, DIE you AI circling scum!
Once I was confident against the offline AI, (of which killed me a few times, at least the abrupt stop at the ground when I lost control of my aircraft did). I signed in. :confused:
Now what, which arena do I goto? Training arena? Nobody home. Alright, lets jump into the arena with players in it already (LWMA). This was a horrible and exciting eye opener for me.... I still remember thinking a friendly was an enemy and that person politely (as all AH players are.. :lol ) letting me that my tracers rounds whipping by him were not appreciated. I didn't hit the guy but scared him a little.
After many a death without even understanding the most basic ACM principles, I decided that bombers MUST be easier to fly. I found them to be a comfort, especially once I became more accustomed to the vox and communication system. I slowly learned to put the fear of the .50 cal into arrogant fighter jocks. I shadowed 999000 and learned a few more tips & tricks to lay lead on the enemy.
I found that the player base is the single best tool for growing in this game. Weather it be training information or little known dot commands, ask a player in game and 9/10 you will get a response that is usable. One of the biggest things thus far has been stick to an aircraft you feel comfortable in and try to learn it's limitations and advantages. The ol' B-17 and P-47M were my starter aircraft. I like many other WWII enthiusiasts get giddy like a kid when talking about the P-51D, but in game, i found the P-47M to be more stable.
At any rate, Aces High is worth it's weight in sweat from my palm when you get those 1on1 that last seemingly forever with little indication as to who has the advantage. I had a fight with a Yak yesterday that I couldn't believe the maneuvers that were exectued; KooniKat, you sir can make your Yak float. wtf. I'd be more upset, but I didn't get film and I had my chances so..... :salute
To new players - Simply put in the hours, you'll get better quicker than you think :old:
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I like the 47m too, I will once a week climb out to 30k and patrol for Buffs near strats.
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<-----i can think of 1 p-51d you'll have trouble with :joystick:
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Look foward to it, I prefer my horse meat burnt
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First lesson I got was 38 has dive breaks!!! OOps would have used them, but nope. lol :bhead :headscratch: :bhead
FYI- None of the P-38s (in game or real life) had dive brakes.
ack-ack
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Look foward to it, I prefer my horse meat burnt
LOL-well done maybe but not burnt
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This being my one year anniversary of subscribing to AH, I was curious as to whether other players have progressed in a similar fashion.
1. 1st three months, clueless, every time you up, your just giving a red guy free perks.
2. 2nd 2 months, pretty much gave up on fighters, started upping gv's and buffs.
3. 3rd 2 months I've finally adhered to the advice of more experienced players, found a fighter I liked and stuck with it. By this time I am starting to be able to hold my own a little, attempting to not HO, I still will vulch when applicable.
4. 4th 3 months, I'm starting to build confidence although I am still dead 1v1 against a good player. Durring this same time period I am learning complete and utter contemp towards pony drivers who do nothing but HO and pick.
5. Last two months, although I will admit that I still participate in horde base taking, I find my self more and more seeking 1v1 against good players, and upping against the horde.
6. This is a great game with a great player base minus a few exceptions, and if your are a rook or knit flying a pony, jug, or 38 and you come across a bish yak, my advice, run and hide.
I don't always up fighters, but when I do, its a Yak3
When I first started playing back in 07 I started like most newbies, in a spit16 and flying with a mouse. Did that for most of my free 14 day trial period before I was talked into trying a less femi ride like the F4U. Tried the F4U, did not like it at first.. But was adviced to stick with it for atleast a month, so I did. One month passed, then two, three, a year, two, three years passed.. I got fairly good in the F4U and it became my favorite ride in the game. But after a while I wanted to do the same with another ride, stick with it that is. So I went for the P51D you hate so much.. :neener:
Have been told that I am fairly good in the pony, and I don't use it to BnZ much. I BnZ randomly when there is not much else to find just to make time pass, but what I really love is to twist that pony around some spit, ki84, yak or zero and scrub through the weeds on full flaps.
I have not been very active in the game the last year or year and a half actually, so I am feeling rusty and almost like a newbie all over again. Bun anyway, rusty or not.. Today I experienced for the very first time in my time here to be accused of being a shade, after a turnfight with a spit14 that fell into the sea with a missing wing.. Most people would take that as an insult I suppose, but I found it rather amusing. In fact, it made my ego boost a little bit. :P
And a bit later today I had a few whiteknuckle fights with a quite respected pilot in a yak3 that I would share a film of if I just knew how to share the film.. Just to show you that not all P51 pilots are afraid to make hard turns and get slow.
But I know many other P51 pilots that will support me on this, and most of them are even better at flying the pony than I am. That bird CAN do some pretty amazing things in the right hands I tell you. :aok
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Just try it ;) Pony vs Dora was my favourite matchup, nearly equal aircrafts with the Dora having advantage in the uphill and the Pony in the downhill. The one who can force his fight on the other, wins.
Umm, you do realize that you just said almost exactly what I said about the matchup, only with different terms? ;)
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Umm, you do realize that you just said almost exactly what I said about the matchup, only with different terms? ;)
Uhm, youre right. My head was and is full of BS
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So is mine but more so :old:
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This being my one year anniversary of subscribing to AH, I was curious as to whether other players have progressed in a similar fashion.
1. 1st three months, clueless, every time you up, your just giving a red guy free perks.
2. 2nd 2 months, pretty much gave up on fighters, started upping gv's and buffs.
3. 3rd 2 months I've finally adhered to the advice of more experienced players, found a fighter I liked and stuck with it. By this time I am starting to be able to hold my own a little, attempting to not HO, I still will vulch when applicable.
4. 4th 3 months, I'm starting to build confidence although I am still dead 1v1 against a good player. Durring this same time period I am learning complete and utter contemp towards pony drivers who do nothing but HO and pick.
5. Last two months, although I will admit that I still participate in horde base taking, I find my self more and more seeking 1v1 against good players, and upping against the horde.
6. This is a great game with a great player base minus a few exceptions, and if your are a rook or knit flying a pony, jug, or 38 and you come across a bish yak, my advice, run and hide.
I don't always up fighters, but when I do, its a Yak3
One Year Date ->Feb 14, 2014 .. (present from the wife..)
I can't say I flew bombers, because I have, but that's not why I signed on to AH.. I wanted to fly & shoot stuff..
Unfortunately, I suck at it.. but once in a while karma shows up & says, "yeah, this is good.. this is why I play AH"..
I'm in the DA tonight in a Ki84, had a great 1v1 angles fight vs. a Brew, 4-5mins of twistin, yoyo's, scissors, etc etc.. & I lived thru it!! how unusual for me!!..
check 6 just cuz i'm supposed to & ahh fart!!.. I get picked.. <Grumble/Moan/Yell.. all off of vox of course..><Smile!!>.. and grab another & go back up..
As I get over head I see that a lots goin on, but I also see 'him' trailin a friendly.. I was pretty far out & up high, so I lined up on his friend, ...
to make a long story short, I weaved my way in close to him.. just by using what I've been taught, & picked him.. He was cool about it, & that told me he knew what was up..
the mere fact that I saw 'him', was able to avoid his friends, & then catch him unaware.. that told me, yeah, I'm learning.. finally..
I'm not there yet.. but I will be..
AH+(on that rare occasion)Karma+$15/month+(priceless/wifeack)= :salute
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6. This is a great game with a great player base minus a few exceptions, and if your are a rook or knit flying a pony, jug, or 38 and you come across a bish yak, my advice, run and hide.
Bist du ein Meshugane ?! are you crazy?! :rolleyes:
Worst advice ever - do you want to spend your time chasing them around? Advise them to come and fight every Yak they see!