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Paris, France (March 3rd, 2014) – With international tensions at a near breaking point from the Russian invasion of Ukraine over the weekend, the potential for continued violence has proven to be too much for some nations. Early reports are flowing out of Europe that President Francois Hollande has tendered Frances surrender to Russian President Vladimir Putin in a surprise Monday morning power play. The move has sent tidal waves through the international diplomatic community, with many concerned that it will prove to only embolden the aggressive Russian war machine.
President Hollande is not scheduled to hold a press conference on the issue until later this evening, but the French press is alive and thriving off of insider leaks from the French administration. The alleged justification for the surrender is that the Russian military was becoming “too close for comfort” for the French military, despite the fact that France is well outside the former Soviet ‘Eastern Bloc’ and likely will not be a target whatsoever. One top French General was quoted as saying, “Rather than suffer an embarrassing hypothetical defeat on a possible battlefield, we pre-empted the unlikely conflict with surrender – it was the only logical solution to the potential problem.”
The surrender comes as the latest in a long history of the nation waving the proverbial white flag. Most notably, the French surrendered to Nazi Germany in June of 1940 as the world was snowballing into a state of global war. Now, with the world on track for what many are hailing as the beginning of World War Three, it seems only natural the French would bow out early and assume their familiar state of being occupied by a hostile foreign force. We reached American Secretary of State John Kerry for his comments on how the surrender would affect the United States’ strategy for dealing with the Russian aggression. He replied with a simple, yet not surprising statement, “Wait… what? The Russians invaded who? I’m sorry I didn’t catch the news yesterday, I was caught up in the Oscar red carpet action!”
The foreign press reported that Vladimir Putin commented on the surrender while performing his morning ritual of wrestling a grizzly bear, “France is not part of Russia. They are merely new vacation spot, we have no need for country full of wine drinkers, true Russians drink vodka!” The media will certainly be keeping an eye on the developing situation, as well as the response from the White House, which is expected later today. Press Secretary Jay Carney has told the media to expect a swift response from the President in light of the recent events, saying “The Department of Justice will be prosecuting the producer of the inflammatory Miley Cyrus YouTube video that caused all of this, as well as delivering an apology on behalf of the United States to all involved. We are hoping that the apology will cause all of this to kind of die down and go away so we can focus on the real issues of gun violence and the Affordable Healthcare Act”
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Send the US hockey team back to Russia, they will give up and lose after a few hours
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Paris, France (March 3rd, 2014) – With international tensions at a near breaking point from the Russian invasion of Ukraine over the weekend, the potential for continued violence has proven to be too much for some nations. Early reports are flowing out of Europe that President Francois Hollande has tendered Frances surrender to Russian President Vladimir Putin in a surprise Monday morning power play. The move has sent tidal waves through the international diplomatic community, with many concerned that it will prove to only embolden the aggressive Russian war machine.
President Hollande is not scheduled to hold a press conference on the issue until later this evening, but the French press is alive and thriving off of insider leaks from the French administration. The alleged justification for the surrender is that the Russian military was becoming “too close for comfort” for the French military, despite the fact that France is well outside the former Soviet ‘Eastern Bloc’ and likely will not be a target whatsoever. One top French General was quoted as saying, “Rather than suffer an embarrassing hypothetical defeat on a possible battlefield, we pre-empted the unlikely conflict with surrender – it was the only logical solution to the potential problem.”
The surrender comes as the latest in a long history of the nation waving the proverbial white flag. Most notably, the French surrendered to Nazi Germany in June of 1940 as the world was snowballing into a state of global war. Now, with the world on track for what many are hailing as the beginning of World War Three, it seems only natural the French would bow out early and assume their familiar state of being occupied by a hostile foreign force. We reached American Secretary of State John Kerry for his comments on how the surrender would affect the United States’ strategy for dealing with the Russian aggression. He replied with a simple, yet not surprising statement, “Wait… what? The Russians invaded who? I’m sorry I didn’t catch the news yesterday, I was caught up in the Oscar red carpet action!”
The foreign press reported that Vladimir Putin commented on the surrender while performing his morning ritual of wrestling a grizzly bear, “France is not part of Russia. They are merely new vacation spot, we have no need for country full of wine drinkers, true Russians drink vodka!” The media will certainly be keeping an eye on the developing situation, as well as the response from the White House, which is expected later today. Press Secretary Jay Carney has told the media to expect a swift response from the President in light of the recent events, saying “The Department of Justice will be prosecuting the producer of the inflammatory Miley Cyrus YouTube video that caused all of this, as well as delivering an apology on behalf of the United States to all involved. We are hoping that the apology will cause all of this to kind of die down and go away so we can focus on the real issues of gun violence and the Affordable Healthcare Act”
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
OMG that's hilarious....
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sarcasme mais crédible. :ahand
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French surrender jokes are so 2003. Have another side order of freedom fries. :aok
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French surrender jokes are so 2003. Have another side order of freedom fries. :aok
I disagree. They are timeless if slightly unfair.
The French have a fine military tradition...one just needs to go back a bit to see it. Be sure to include the Gauls, Charlesmane, Joan of Arc, etc etc. :D
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I disagree. They are timeless if slightly unfair.
The French have a fine military tradition...one just needs to go back a bit to see it. Be sure to include the Gauls, Charlesmane, Joan of Arc, etc etc. :D
The Foreign Legion have an incredible military history..... oh wait :devil
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The French have a fine military tradition...one just needs to go back a bit to see it.
The Complete Military History of France
- Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.
- Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare: "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman."
- Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
- Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.
- Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.
- War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.
- The Dutch War - Tied.
- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War. Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Francophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.
- War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.
- American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome," and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare: "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."
- French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.
- The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.
- The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.
- World War I - Tied on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.
- World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.
- War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu.
- Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare: "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.
- War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.
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French surrender jokes are so 2003. Have another side order of freedom fries. :aok
That was a half hearted effort. I expect more from you.
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The Complete Military History of France
- Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.
- Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare: "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman."
- Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
- Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.
- Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.
- War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.
- The Dutch War - Tied.
- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War. Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Francophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.
- War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.
- American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome," and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare: "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."
- French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.
- The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.
- The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.
- World War I - Tied on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.
- World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.
- War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu.
- Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare: "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.
- War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.
I all but blew snot out my nose. :x
That was a fine stroll down memory lane with quiet the eloquent tour guide.
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That's deeply ironic coming from a Brit considering the leaked document seen being brought into No 10. Some quotes from a news report:
It said the UK backs EU-level "visa restrictions/travel bans" on Russian officials and supports "deployment of OSCE and/or UN (but not EU) monitors in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.”
But it added that Britain does “not support, for now, trade sanctions … or [to] close London's financial centre to Russians."
It also said the UK will “discourage any discussions (e.g. at Nato) of contingency military preparations."
The information reflects an agreement by EU foreign ministers in Brussels the same day to threaten Russia with “targeted measures” if it does not end its occupation of Ukraine’s Crimea region.
But it indicates that British PM David Cameron will not be willing to harm British trade or financial interests vis-a-vis Russia when EU leaders meet in Brussels on Thursday to discuss the Ukraine crisis.
The stuff about the French is a joke. But the British surrender is there in black and white. Rather embarrassing that!
Putin has made fools of the west, NATO and the Americans. Appeasement once again.
BTW: I have no remit to defend France from stupid jokes but as a matter of historical fact the French have won more battles than they lost. But lets not let the facts get in the way of a silly joke.
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That's deeply ironic coming from a Brit considering the leaked document seen being brought into No 10. Some quotes from a news report:The stuff about the French is a joke. But the British surrender is there in black and white. Rather embarrassing that!
Putin has made fools of the west, NATO and the Americans. Appeasement once again.
BTW: I have no remit to defend France from stupid jokes but as a matter of historical fact the French have won more battles than they lost. But lets not let the facts get in the way of a silly joke.
If we are jumping ship from French humor to current events....appeasement now will cost millions later. And the lack of appeasement does not necessarily require military action. Chamberlain didn't need to invade the Rhineland as a solution to Munich. Yes, Obama and his 60's hipsters are getting embarrassed and it will be expensive over time!
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The Complete Military History of France
Great stuff there! :aok
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The Complete Military History of France
- Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.
That "Italian" was one of the Great Captains of history who was both a political and military genius. His name and career arguably shaped European history for the next 2000 years. His fellow "Italians" conquered one of the largest empires in history over a 400 year period, one which lasted nearly 1800 years if you factor in the Byzantine Empire (i.e. The Eastern Roman Empire).
So I think we can forgive the French for losing that one. :)
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I've been reading up on how Ukrainian sovereignty came into play, at least in the modern world.
The 1991 Minsk Accord specified that Russia formally renounce any claim to Soviet territory outside Russia. This included among others the Ukraine and Belarus. Then in 1994 there was another agreement that Russia affirmed that it would respect Ukraine's "independence and sovereignty and the existing borders", and recognize "border changes can be made only by peaceful and consensual means"
This was purportedly in exchange for Ukraine's decision to give up the nuclear weapons it inherited during the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
My question is, were those nuclear weapons really Ukraine's to give up in the first place? Didn't the Russians (USSR) pay for and construct those nuclear weapons to begin with, and they were merely located within Ukraine's borders after the dissolution of the USSR?
I gather that the Crimea is largely ethnic Russian to begin with. (Mainly because Stalin forced about 200,000 Tartar's into relocation (gulags) in 1944 after taking the territory back under military control from the Nazi's). Reminds me of Hitler's reason to invade the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia under the pretense of protecting ethnic Germans. :bolt:
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England, on the other hand, was a favourite invasion destination for every army within 1,000 miles until it came under the rule of a Frenchman.
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Technically it came under the rule of a Norman, a Scandinavian descendent and only nominally under the rule of the reigning French monarch....Normans were as troublesome as their Viking forebears....
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The Complete Military History of France
- Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.
- Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare: "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman."
- Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
- Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.
- Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.
- War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.
- The Dutch War - Tied.
- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War. Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Francophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.
- War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.
- American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome," and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare: "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."
- French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.
- The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.
- The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.
- World War I - Tied on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.
- World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.
- War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu.
- Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare: "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.
- War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.
dont forget the invasion of mexico and the "cake wars".
semp
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Technically it came under the rule of a Norman, a Scandinavian descendent and only nominally under the rule of the reigning French monarch....Normans were as troublesome as their Viking forebears....
Yes, but "Norman" lets the English off the hook.
"Nooo nooo, old chap, we were never ruled by the French. We were ruled by Normans, you see.
Now, let me explain it to you. Blahdeblah de blahde blahblah, sun never sets."
They can't play cricket, either.
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They can't play cricket, either.
Who?
the English?
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Yes, the English.
The Normans beat the English at cricket, too.
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I don't care. I'm Welsh. My ancestors ruled the battlefield for two centuries and killed lots of French at places with wonderful names like Crécy, Poitiers and Agincourt.
Killed lots of English come to think of it....and Scots....and Irish..... Hell, just about everyone in Europe! :D
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Funny.
I will say however, that after visiting Paris I understand why France has previously made the decision to not attempt to defend the city. Take the most impressive historical building or site you've ever visited, and multiply that times 100,000, and that's Paris. They'd rather have new temporary landlords than risk having that place demolished, and after visiting and seeing it for myself, I can't really blame them. Taking the long-term view, it's a reasonable approach to historical and cultural preservation. Tyrants come and go but they want Paris to live forever.
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Excellent, thank you Danny.
As a British man it is my duty to rag on the French, though strangely it is also my duty as an Englishman to rag on the Welsh, Scots and Irish even though we all shagged the hell out of each other for fifteen hundred years and no one really knows who is who anymore. It is also my duty to rag on Germans, Spaniards, Italians and most other European nations. We have a soft spot for Belgians, probably because they make good chocolate and not because they do it to snatch children.
We quite like the Dutch because they are like Germans except with a sense of humour and less of a penchant for killing millions of us but still losing. Most people in Scandinavia are liked because they came over when we started creating Great Britain and shagged the hell out of us so no one really knows who is who anymore. Plus they produce some incredibly good looking females.
Most of the places we conquered we ended up friends with and sheepishly handed their country back, so they get to live here now and we pretty much get along ok these days. America definitely has to be ragged on because they kicked us out of their place ironically quite soon after we were happy to see them leaving our place. Russia are left alone, apart from vodka jokes, because they are hard as nails. No one with a brain would get on Russia's bad side. Have you never played Risk? Canadians are not ragged on much because they pretty much have the best country in the world apart from possibly Australia or New Zealand. Argentina get it rough but they deserve it, especially during the world cup even though Brazil are adored even though they always beat us.
These are just some of the Racial prejudices I... that we... must embrace as our duty to Britain.
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These are just some of the Racial prejudices I... that we... must embrace as our duty to Britain.
Rule Britannia. :)
I take offense to the ragging on the Welsh. The English owe them for their Empire and for keeping the Irish away. That being said, I'm not sure why anyone would shag the Welsh. Most of my distant ancestors I've seen pictures of were quite ugly. That may, however, be an unfortunate trait of my family's specific gene pool and not a general trait of the Welsh race. :frown:
Canadians do not have the best country in the world. It's colder then hell. I will grant they gave us Hockey, which is very cool, but that only really makes up for also creating the borefest that is Curling. Finally, they play American Football* incorrectly...so there you go. :aok
* Football has FOUR downs, canucks, not THREE. 11 players on the field, not 12. Oh, and the field is meant to be 100 yards long, not 110! I do like the idea of deducting a point for missed field goals though. :D
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Yes, but "Norman" lets the English off the hook.
Not really. The Normans spoke French.
French is a wonderful language. The only one I know that can make saying "I gotta take a dump" sound romantic. Quite unlike German....everything in German sounds like "I gotta take a dump." :D
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Funny.
I will say however, that after visiting Paris I understand why France has previously made the decision to not attempt to defend the city. Take the most impressive historical building or site you've ever visited, and multiply that times 100,000, and that's Paris. They'd rather have new temporary landlords than risk having that place demolished, and after visiting and seeing it for myself, I can't really blame them. Taking the long-term view, it's a reasonable approach to historical and cultural preservation. Tyrants come and go but they want Paris to live forever.
Have you seen Rome? Sorry, it may be due to my extreme love for Italian food and Roman history... but I'd visit Rome again any day over Paris.
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As a British man it is my duty to rag on ... the Welsh, Scots and Irish.
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That's the confusing thing Arlo, my surname is Cameron, the Camerons were scots highlanders. My mother was half welsh, half Irish. I was born in England.
Too much inter-shagging, I told you
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I'm not sure why anyone would shag the Welsh.
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That's the confusing thing Arlo, my surname is Cameron, the Camerons were scots highlanders. My mother was half welsh, half Irish. I was born in England.
Too much inter-shagging, I told you
Apparently the Camerons were indeed coming.
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hah, yes.
and what a pig's ear he's making of it
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Quite unlike German....everything in German sounds like "I gotta take a dump." :D
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Glendinning
Go.
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That's deeply ironic coming from a Brit considering the leaked document seen being brought into No 10. Some quotes from a news report:The stuff about the French is a joke. But the British surrender is there in black and white. Rather embarrassing that!
Putin has made fools of the west, NATO and the Americans. Appeasement once again.
BTW: I have no remit to defend France from stupid jokes but as a matter of historical fact the French have won more battles than they lost. But lets not let the facts get in the way of a silly joke.
Do you write things to get a reaction from me?
Appeasement was not a issue with Ireland, it was supportive of the Nazi government because it was neutral!
Putin is protecting Russians from Ultra nationalists, dont ignore the facts these people rioting are not nice people
Then again you will ignore the facts!
The Ukranians want independance from Russia, and I will have to fund another backward european country.
Are we still supportung those Syrian fundamentlist al qeeda rebels, or the koreans.
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How soon we forget
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As an American, i believe the French and their flag should be treated with nothing less than the utmost reverence and respect.
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Since someone posted a list of France's military history, lets take a looksee at all the conflicts America has had over the years. Has America ever won anything against a competant military power without assistance from another country?
Korea? Nope, we wuz there helping ya.
Iraq? Nope, we wuz there.
Afghanistan? We're there again.
Vietnam? Ok, we weren't there....but then you didn't win that one did ya? Even with the Aussies helping.
Dominican Republic / Grenada / Panama? I said competant military power, not natives in grass skirts armed with nasty looking sharpened mangos.
The big one in 1776? Without the French you'd have been toast sunshine. And while you see it as a victory, we see this one as a lucky bleedin escape.
Franco-American War? Nope, British Royal Navy did the biz on that one. And btw, nice job of thanking those nice Frogs that helped ya win independence.
The 1812 spat? Heh, both you lot and the Canadians think of that one as a victory despite you trying to invade them. All your other reasons for declaring war were ignored in the peace treaty which forced you to recognise the original US-Canadian border and in the process of bringing you to the negotiation table we set fire to the Whitehouse. Call that a victory do ya?
The Barbary wars? Ok, the first one ended with $60,000 dollars being paid as ransom for the US prisoners taken that started the fight and the second ended when the US agreed to pay tribute so your poor widdle sailors wouldnt get attacked any more.
The Mexican-American war? Ok, I'll give you that one. Shame they've been invading on the quiet for a while now though, how's that going for ya?
The Spanish-American war? Oh yeah.....that one started cos some Pedro tried to say that Cuba was part of Spain and not just a colony. Gee, where have I heard that before?
Originally posted on another board a few years ago.....resurrected now for the comedy effect.
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Excellent, thank you Danny.
:rofl I knew this was going to be good bat.
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She's probably crazy. Extensive inter-breeding will do that. :D
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How soon we forget
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As an American, i believe the French and their flag should be treated with nothing less than the utmost reverence and respect.
+1 :salute
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Since someone posted a list of France's military history, lets take a looksee at all the conflicts America has had over the years. Has America ever won anything against a competent military power without assistance from another country?
Korea? Nope, we wuz there helping ya.
Iraq? Nope, we wuz there.
Afghanistan? We're there again.
Vietnam? Ok, we weren't there....but then you didn't win that one did ya? Even with the Aussies helping.
Dominican Republic / Grenada / Panama? I said competant military power, not natives in grass skirts armed with nasty looking sharpened mangos.
The big one in 1776? Without the French you'd have been toast sunshine. And while you see it as a victory, we see this one as a lucky bleedin escape.
Franco-American War? Nope, British Royal Navy did the biz on that one. And btw, nice job of thanking those nice Frogs that helped ya win independence.
The 1812 spat? Heh, both you lot and the Canadians think of that one as a victory despite you trying to invade them. All your other reasons for declaring war were ignored in the peace treaty which forced you to recognise the original US-Canadian border and in the process of bringing you to the negotiation table we set fire to the Whitehouse. Call that a victory do ya?
The Barbary wars? Ok, the first one ended with $60,000 dollars being paid as ransom for the US prisoners taken that started the fight and the second ended when the US agreed to pay tribute so your poor widdle sailors wouldnt get attacked any more.
The Mexican-American war? Ok, I'll give you that one. Shame they've been invading on the quiet for a while now though, how's that going for ya?
The Spanish-American war? Oh yeah.....that one started cos some Pedro tried to say that Cuba was part of Spain and not just a colony. Gee, where have I heard that before?
Originally posted on another board a few years ago.....resurrected now for the comedy effect.
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Here in the States we refer to it as the "Special Relationship" for a reason.....
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The big one in 1776? Without the French you'd have been toast sunshine. And while you see it as a victory, we see this one as a lucky bleedin escape.
Franco-American War? Nope, British Royal Navy did the biz on that one. And btw, nice job of thanking those nice Frogs that helped ya win independence.
:lol
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Here in the States we refer to it as the "Special Relationship" for a reason.....
:D
:rofl
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:rofl
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Here in the States we refer to it as the "Special Relationship" for a reason.....
:D
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How soon we forget
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As an American, i believe the French and their flag should be treated with nothing less than the utmost reverence and respect.
:salute
My Uncle has lineage and shares the name Lafayette. This thread started as a joke but remember the soldiers that suffered a fate that was in the hands of some good and some not so good leaders.
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The big one in 1776? Without the French you'd have been toast sunshine. And while you see it as a victory, we see this one as a lucky bleedin escape.
Kinda of like how anyone that knows anything about Waterloo knows that Wellingtons "glorious victory" wouldn't have been without the help of Blucher
Whomever wrote the above should really take the time to go thank a Prussian :aok
Not directed at u Swoop. I know u copied that from another forum and didn't write it
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I know u copied that from another forum and didn't write it
Well actually.....I did, a few years ago for another forum. However, I didn't write the history, that wrote itself. And we did thank the Prussians. Twice as I recall, 3 times if you count 1966.
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Since someone posted a list of France's military history, lets take a looksee at all the conflicts America has had over the years. Has America ever won anything against a competant military power without assistance from another country?
Well of course, someone had to hold our coats...
It's easy to poke fun, but the reality is that almost every major war of the past 300 years has involved alliances. Some were more trouble than others. Some were nearly useless (visualize Germany having to intervene in Greece, when the Italians were defeated or a small Brit force driving those same Italians out of North Africa). Others bore the brunt while Allied nations mobilized both their military and industrial bases (the USSR). Even so, modern scholarship shows that it was highly unlikely that the Soviets would have survived 1943 without the vast Lend Lease program.
The United States fought only one major war by itself, our Civil War. When it ended, the USA had the most powerful military on earth, and a huge fleet of ironclad warships. What did it do with that vast military power? Nothing. Nothing in terms of international events. The USA turned towards itself, and expanded on the continent, disbanding much of that military power. It was the nature of the culture.