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Title: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 17, 2014, 06:34:17 PM
Ho long for it says your chat is currently suspended
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Stresser on March 17, 2014, 06:37:24 PM
Do you mean "How long"? :headscratch:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Golden Dragon on March 17, 2014, 06:38:45 PM
Hey Cashew, we're neighbors.  I'm on Whidbey Island.  Choose to be a nice guy and your chat won't be suspended. :cheers:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Bear76 on March 17, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
Hey Cashew, we're neighbors.  I'm on Whidbey Island.  Choose to be a nice guy and your chat won't be suspended. :cheers:

So am I
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Stresser on March 17, 2014, 06:44:14 PM
It looks like you will have to wait 12 hours before you can call anyone else a..... name.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Golden Dragon on March 17, 2014, 06:51:20 PM
So am I

Well howdy neighbor!  Which side do you fly on mostly?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: BluBerry on March 17, 2014, 06:53:43 PM
Hey Cashew, we're neighbors.  I'm on Whidbey Island.  Choose to be a nice guy and your chat won't be suspended. :cheers:


<- Seattle
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Golden Dragon on March 17, 2014, 06:56:07 PM
Lots of us here lucky enough to call the great Northwest home.  I've had lots of fun fights with you Blueberry.  I'm ooPK in game.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: BluBerry on March 17, 2014, 06:58:19 PM
ah had no idea. what up man.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Bear76 on March 17, 2014, 06:59:04 PM
Well howdy neighbor!  Which side do you fly on mostly?

The red side mostly  ;)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: craz07 on March 17, 2014, 07:17:22 PM
baaaarrrrppp!!...  wha?  To all my irish friends out there, happy st. paddy's u a-sholes lol
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 17, 2014, 07:24:06 PM
Hey Cashew, we're neighbors.  I'm on Whidbey Island.  Choose to be a nice guy and your chat won't be suspended. :cheers:
Ahahah! My ingame name is Peanut! I been a jerk lately. The things lie can do!! I live in port townsnd! and bham!!
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 17, 2014, 07:25:17 PM
Do you mean "How long"? :headscratch:
Ha Guess it happens when you hate  the T O S H word
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Max on March 17, 2014, 07:29:49 PM
 :headscratch:
Ho long for it says your chat is currently suspended

 :headscratch:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 17, 2014, 07:32:11 PM
Ho long for it says your chat is currently suspended

It's funny that people will post basically bragging about getting chat banned like its some badge of honor that they can't keep their cool over a game. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 17, 2014, 07:37:56 PM
It's funny that people will post basically bragging about getting chat banned like its some badge of honor that they can't keep their cool over a game. 

ack-ack
Sure as heck aint bragging . Think its funny how I get muted for calling tosh a p word and he can say f u back and never get muted
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Max on March 17, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
Perhaps you should take this up with HTC  vs posting a LOOK AT ME THREAD.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 17, 2014, 08:03:10 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Golden Dragon on March 17, 2014, 08:12:22 PM
Ahahah! My ingame name is Peanut! I been a jerk lately. The things lie can do!! I live in port townsnd! and bham!!

PT is a great town!  I spend a lot of time on the Peninsula playing.  I always hit that brewery in the marina dry dock for a couple of growlers of ale.  Don't let the jerks make you behave poorly.  Far more good folks here than bad and the game will only be as good as we make it.  I love it, it's the only online game I play.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 17, 2014, 08:18:19 PM
Yeah man they make some real good ale down there!!! live bout.. a mile away!!
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: shppr01 on March 17, 2014, 08:41:50 PM
Hey Cashew, we're neighbors.  I'm on Whidbey Island.  Choose to be a nice guy and your chat won't be suspended. :cheers:


I grew up in Illwaco and Ocean park ! Does that count also ??
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on March 17, 2014, 08:47:01 PM
It's funny that people will post basically bragging about getting chat banned like its some badge of honor that they can't keep their cool over a game. 

ack-ack
Ah but it is a badge of honor!

Only the most sophisticated members of the Tard Country Club Get one.  :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: captain1ma on March 17, 2014, 10:09:48 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 17, 2014, 10:40:07 PM
I curious to see how this ends....
Yeah not me
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: zack1234 on March 18, 2014, 03:33:58 AM
Yeah man they make some real good ale down there!!! live bout.. a mile away!!

?

This thread got interesting :old:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 03:46:29 AM
haha nah hitech is a carless company.

Apparently you haven't seen the thread bout Skuzzy's car.

Oh, and you whine too much.

 :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: HawkerMKII on March 18, 2014, 04:43:01 AM
I curious to see how this ends....

INdeed
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: TOMCAT21 on March 18, 2014, 05:13:38 AM
 :headscratch:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: LCADolby on March 18, 2014, 05:48:37 AM
I get muted for calling tosh a p word and he can say f u back and never get muted

Tosh is a retard, you should know better.

It's like playing basketball with a 'special' kid, you just have to let the double dribble go.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Latrobe on March 18, 2014, 05:59:42 AM
I once made a typo and got muted for 10 minutes. Fun times.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 18, 2014, 06:50:35 AM
Every player is responsible for their own behavior.  No one is putting a gun to your head and making you act in a derogatory or abrasive manner.  If you feel you were wrongly reported, you are free to challenge it.

Coming into our house and treating us (HTC) in a disrespectful manner will only hurt one person.  If your goal is to get banned from our bulletin board, then just PM me and ask me to do it.  It would save everyone a lot of trouble and nonsense.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Midway on March 18, 2014, 07:54:15 AM
Every player is responsible for their own behavior.  No one is putting a gun to your head and making you act in a derogatory or abrasive manner.  If you feel you were wrongly reported, you are free to challenge it.

Coming into our house and treating us (HTC) in a disrespectful manner will only hurt one person.  If your goal is to get banned from our bulletin board, then just PM me and ask me to do it.  It would save everyone a lot of trouble and nonsense.  Thank you.

But in a combat game where ego, pride, disappointment, and the huge effort involved to get skilled are fact, to then, on occasion, get into an emotional battle with your opponent should be expected.  Sure, you shouldn't get extreme, but some level of emotional release after a tense fight should be expected.

You ever been to a football game, soccer game, or participate in games and not see pure, raw, human emotion? Especially when fights are involved?

IMHO, HTC is a little too harsh/strict in this respect.  :)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Slate on March 18, 2014, 09:03:38 AM
  Some simple humans just can't control their emotions.

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Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 18, 2014, 09:21:59 AM
Never been chat or vox banned once in 9 years.   

Maybe I should start a look at me thread as well!  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Shamus on March 18, 2014, 09:35:01 AM
Yup, I would say calling someone an A-Hole on 200 can be considered poor form.

shamus
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 18, 2014, 09:37:16 AM
But in a combat game where ego, pride, disappointment, and the huge effort involved to get skilled are fact, to then, on occasion, get into an emotional battle with your opponent should be expected.  Sure, you shouldn't get extreme, but some level of emotional release after a tense fight should be expected.

You ever been to a football game, soccer game, or participate in games and not see pure, raw, human emotion? Especially when fights are involved?

IMHO, HTC is a little too harsh/strict in this respect.  :)

You are stepping into something you know nothing about.  Making derogatory remarks about HTC, in the game, has nothing to do with battle.  Making abusive remarks towards the community or towards the family members of a player has nothing to do with battle.

You ever been to a restaurant and had someone from the across the room yell obscenities at you and your family?  Maybe you think that is fine, but I would support the management ejecting that person from his place of business for that.

This type of behavior is detrimental to our business and will not be tolerated.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Tinkles on March 18, 2014, 09:37:43 AM
But in a combat game where ego, pride, disappointment, and the huge effort involved to get skilled are fact, to then, on occasion, get into an emotional battle with your opponent should be expected.  Sure, you shouldn't get extreme, but some level of emotional release after a tense fight should be expected.

You ever been to a football game, soccer game, or participate in games and not see pure, raw, human emotion? Especially when fights are involved?

IMHO, HTC is a little too harsh/strict in this respect.  :)

I've played the game for years, and never called anyone out on 200 or a date to the Dueling Arena.  

Lack of self control isn't an excuse and shouldn't be put up with. We are all adults here, it's time we act like it.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 18, 2014, 09:39:10 AM
Every player is responsible for their own behavior.  No one is putting a gun to your head and making you act in a derogatory or abrasive manner.  If you feel you were wrongly reported, you are free to challenge it.

Coming into our house and treating us (HTC) in a disrespectful manner will only hurt one person.  If your goal is to get banned from our bulletin board, then just PM me and ask me to do it.  It would save everyone a lot of trouble and nonsense.  Thank you.
Yep. Sorry just was quite POed Im good now! ha Still think you guys take it to far but ah heck. What do you care! <S>
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 18, 2014, 09:40:17 AM
You are stepping into something you know nothing about.  Making derogatory remarks about HTC, in the game, has nothing to do with battle.  Making abusive remarks towards the community or towards the family members of a player has nothing to do with battle.

You ever been to a restaurant and had someone from the across the room yell obscenities at you and your family?  Maybe you think that is fine, but I would support the management ejecting that person from his place of business for that.

This type of behavior is detrimental to our business and will not be tolerated.
<S> Man! made mistake. Learned from it
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 18, 2014, 09:41:17 AM
Yep. Sorry just was quite POed Im good now! ha Still think you guys take it to far but ah heck. What do you care! <S>

We care plenty as it is our business and livelihood at stake.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 18, 2014, 09:42:28 AM
I've played the game for years, and never called anyone out on 200 <deleted>

Fixed.

Midway hasn't ever called anyone out to the DA either...200 is another matter.    :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: ReVo on March 18, 2014, 09:43:03 AM
I feel that as long as the profanity is kept to a minimum and the comments are kept to ones in-game conduct it shouldn't be a problem.

Of course I also feel that you shouldn't be banned from the forum for using somebody's name.  :noid


Goodbye everybody, it's been nice knowing you. >.>
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: CASHEW on March 18, 2014, 09:47:35 AM
We care plenty as it is our business and livelihood at stake.
Understood. You do a good job. When you get frustrated its much easier to talk poo than do nothing. And im working on that. How long do i get muted for?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Max on March 18, 2014, 10:01:33 AM

IMHO, HTC is a little too harsh/strict in this respect.  :)

The OP's mute was apparently player generated. Besides, you quit the game. What do you care?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: shppr01 on March 18, 2014, 10:55:21 AM
I usually Don't speak on these type threads but ....
I was raised with respect. Respect for others, respect for others properties and respect for family.
It seems that we have forgotten respect for people. I know this is a game, but this is a game that requires
somewhat of an ego at times. We cannot control that. What I can control is how I act in game.
For me , that is simply RESPECT!! Growing up when I did, It's easy!
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: danny76 on March 18, 2014, 11:46:26 AM
Yep. Sorry just was quite POed Im good now! ha Still think you guys take it to far but ah heck. What do you care! <S>

Not getting this are you? :bhead
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 18, 2014, 12:00:59 PM
You are stepping into something you know nothing about.  Making derogatory remarks about HTC, in the game, has nothing to do with battle.  Making abusive remarks towards the community or towards the family members of a player has nothing to do with battle.

You ever been to a restaurant and had someone from the across the room yell obscenities at you and your family?  Maybe you think that is fine, but I would support the management ejecting that person from his place of business for that.

This type of behavior is detrimental to our business and will not be tolerated.

To be fair, that is not a valid comparison.  There is no element of competition in a restaurant.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: matt on March 18, 2014, 12:03:46 PM
Who's miday ?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 12:05:54 PM
I don't know. Who is Miday?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 18, 2014, 12:07:35 PM
To be fair, that is not a valid comparison.  There is no element of competition in a restaurant.

Okay, try running an Olympic race and at the end of that race start being abusive and derogatory towards the other runners and then show compete and utter disrespect towards the sponsors of the race, along with cussing out the country you are representing.

What do you think is going to happen?  I bet they do not give him a cookie.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Zoney on March 18, 2014, 12:08:41 PM
To be fair, that is not a valid comparison.  There is no element of competition in a restaurant.

It's a perfectly valid comparison.  

You go into a restaurant to eat, you have paid for the privilege of eating there, you have not paid for the privilege of abusing customers.  If as a customer I was abused by another customer and the management did nothing, I would not go back to the place.

You pay to play this game, you pay for the privilege of playing, you have not paid for the privilege of abusing other customers.  If the game management do not control the abuse, customers who find it unacceptable will not keep their business with HTC.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: BluBerry on March 18, 2014, 12:10:56 PM
Okay, try running an Olympic race and at the end of that race start being abusive and derogatory towards the other runners and then show compete and utter disrespect towards the sponsors of the race, along with cussing out the country you are representing.

What do you think is going to happen?  I bet they do not give him a cookie.

Sochi
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 18, 2014, 12:18:49 PM
Okay, try running an Olympic race and at the end of that race start being abusive and derogatory towards the other runners and then show compete and utter disrespect towards the sponsors of the race, along with cussing out the country you are representing.

What do you think is going to happen?  I bet they do not give him a cookie.

The point that Midway made was that there is a certain degree of emotion and frustration expected when people are competing, and there is certainly an acceptable level of insult that is within reasonable limits to project towards another player.

Whether it is a video game, the olympics, a professional sporting event, etc.  In any sport, jawing back and forth between players is very common, and fights break out in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, every season, every game in the NHL it seems.  To ignore this basic human nature is to stick your head in the sand.

Let me use this as an in game example, say a squadron is specifically targetting a player to hunt and shoot down, for example my squad shooting down FlyinFin anytime he is online because we like getting under his skin.  It is completely reasonable that he will go off his rocker on channel 200 crying foul and insulting us.  Isn't that part of the fun?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on March 18, 2014, 12:20:56 PM
It's mucho fun for me unless someone wants to pay my sub.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Wiley on March 18, 2014, 12:26:46 PM
Let me use this as an in game example, say a squadron is specifically targetting a player to hunt and shoot down, for example my squad shooting down FlyinFin anytime he is online because we like getting under his skin.  It is completely reasonable that he will go off his rocker on channel 200 crying foul and insulting us.  Isn't that part of the fun?

Not particularly.  Vitriol on the channels is pretty sad IMHO.  Pushing the other guy around is part of the game for sure, verbal abuse not so much.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: lyric1 on March 18, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
Okay, try running an Olympic race and at the end of that race start being abusive and derogatory towards the other runners and then show compete and utter disrespect towards the sponsors of the race, along with cussing out the country you are representing.

What do you think is going to happen?   I bet they do not give him a cookie.


Yes but your dealing with people who think & act like this in AHII. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olT8v8yMUEU

Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 18, 2014, 12:47:19 PM
The point that Midway made was that there is a certain degree of emotion and frustration expected when people are competing, and there is certainly an acceptable level of insult that is within reasonable limits to project towards another player.

Whether it is a video game, the olympics, a professional sporting event, etc.  In any sport, jawing back and forth between players is very common, and fights break out in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, every season, every game in the NHL it seems.  To ignore this basic human nature is to stick your head in the sand.

Let me use this as an in game example, say a squadron is specifically targetting a player to hunt and shoot down, for example my squad shooting down FlyinFin anytime he is online because we like getting under his skin.  It is completely reasonable that he will go off his rocker on channel 200 crying foul and insulting us.  Isn't that part of the fun?

There was no point made.  It was an attempt to rationalize derogatory and abusive behavior.

The player makes the choice to behave in the manner they chose to.  You can sit at home and rant and rave all you want.  The minute you put it on the public radio channels you then acknowledge you are ready to be scrutinized for that behavior.

Tell you what grizz.  Catch me online some time and call my Wife a derogatory name or make the statement, "hitech creatings the biggest POS company in usa" and see how long you last in the game.  If that is behavior you want to support, then we are not going to see eye to eye, to say the least.  

There is no rationalizing abusive or derogatory behavior.  It is a poison which will eat away at the community.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Puma44 on March 18, 2014, 12:53:47 PM
Well said Skuzzy!  :aok
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 18, 2014, 01:13:30 PM
There was no point made.  It was an attempt to rationalize derogatory and abusive behavior.

The player makes the choice to behave in the manner they chose to.  You can sit at home and rant and rave all you want.  The minute you put it on the public radio channels you then acknowledge you are ready to be scrutinized for that behavior.

Tell you what grizz.  Catch me online some time and call my Wife a derogatory name or make the statement, "hitech creatings the biggest POS company in usa" and see how long you last in the game.  If that is behavior you want to support, then we are not going to see eye to eye, to say the least.  

There is no rationalizing abusive or derogatory behavior.  It is a poison which will eat away at the community.

When extreme cases are used to prove a point, it suggests a weak argument.  The point you are missing is that there is a certain level of banter and insult that is acceptable, and to be expected in fierce competition.   Telling somebody they suck at flying is insulting and arguably derogatory in nature, but not over the line, is it?  There IS a line, a grey line albeit, but a line.  That is the argument Midway made, before you started using examples of cases blatantly crossing the line.  If you reread his post that you jumped on, you will realize that he is 100% correct.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 18, 2014, 01:21:00 PM
When extreme cases are used to prove a point, it suggests a weak argument.  The point you are missing is that there is a certain level of banter and insult that is acceptable, and to be expected in fierce competition.   Telling somebody they suck at flying is insulting and arguably derogatory in nature, but not over the line, is it?  There IS a line, a grey line albeit, but a line.  That is the argument Midway made, before you started using examples of cases blatantly crossing the line.  If you reread his post that you jumped on, you will realize that he is 100% correct.

No, he is not correct. This thread is about being way over the line.  That is what the player got busted for.  You guys want to support that, it is your choice.

I have not said what is acceptable.  I have said what is unacceptable and you guys want to make it about something else.

If your taunting causes a player to quit his subscription, who wins?  If the community reports a player.  We will validate it, if the player being reported wants us to.  The only question left to answer is, "How does this impact the quality of the arena environment?".  That environment is important and we (HTC) would like it to be a fun and competitive one.  You can have both.

The player you are harassing, for fun.  I will not go ask him anything.  If he complains, then it will be dealt with.  When a player feels he has no other choice but to quit in order to get away from the abuse, we will step in.

Regardless of what you think is acceptable, when anyone starts running off players, they will find themselves in a position they do not want to be in.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: BluBerry on March 18, 2014, 01:28:41 PM
 If the community reports a player.  We will validate it, if the player being reported wants us to.


So if I got enough of my friends to all report one person in the MA he would get muted?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 18, 2014, 01:33:04 PM

So if I got enough of my friends to all report one person in the MA he would get muted?

Yes, he would, until he called us and we checked and found a call for those reports.  At that time, we would unsuspend the player, and then suspend every player who issued the reports.

Abusing the system has its own penalties.

If you guys put half as much energy into playing fair and nice with the community, as you do in trying to figure out how to get away with abusing the community, it would be awesome!
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 01:35:18 PM
Just kill 200.  :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Zoney on March 18, 2014, 01:43:57 PM


If you guys put half as much energy into playing fair and nice with the community, as you do in trying to figure out how to get away with abusing the community, it would be awesome!

That right there ^^^^^^.  It is actually a lot easier just to be nice.  The game becomes more fun, the overall community spirit improves and maybe a new player does not quit because he finds out he has entered a playground for bullies.  It's embarrassing.  I cannot even talk to outsiders who I meet about the game because then "I am guilty by association".
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: BluBerry on March 18, 2014, 01:44:59 PM
I am nice.  :old:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Golden Dragon on March 18, 2014, 01:46:42 PM

If you guys put half as much energy into playing fair and nice with the community, as you do in trying to figure out how to get away with abusing the community, it would be awesome!

Agreed.  I now just block comms from the few guys who behave poorly and my enjoyment has increased exponentially.  I get to play so infrequently that when I'm on I want it to be a great place. :cheers:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 18, 2014, 01:48:05 PM
Yes, he would, until he called us and we checked and found a call for those reports.  At that time, we would unsuspend the player, and then suspend every player who issued the reports.

Abusing the system has its own penalties.

If you guys put half as much energy into playing fair and nice with the community, as you do in trying to figure out how to get away with abusing the community, it would be awesome!

I just don't get the lengths some will go to to be bungholes.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Pepprr on March 18, 2014, 01:52:56 PM
  I cannot even talk to outsiders who I meet about the game because then "I am guilty by association".

I thought this community was pretty tame.  Have you taken a look at other games lately?  AH has some of the most respectful players in it...I don't find harm in
some harmless ribbing now and then, it is a competitive game.   :)


I am nice.  :old:

Me too...  :angel:

I just don't get the lengths some will go to to be bungholes.   :rolleyes:

^^^No doubt...  :rolleyes:

 
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 18, 2014, 01:53:52 PM

^^^No doubt...  :rolleyes:
 

^^^Indeed.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: LCADolby on March 18, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
I am nice.  :old:
:lol
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Golden Dragon on March 18, 2014, 03:14:21 PM
I thought this community was pretty tame.  Have you taken a look at other games lately?  AH has some of the most respectful players in it...I don't find harm in
some harmless ribbing now and then.

 

Well there's harmless ribbing and then there's personal attacks from guys like Rumal.  I guess I don't get ribbed so much as personally attacked via pm or vox.  I'm pretty good at laughing it off but at times it's annoying.  If there was much more of that behavior I'd quit logging on.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 18, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
That right there ^^^^^^.  It is actually a lot easier just to be nice.  The game becomes more fun, the overall community spirit improves and maybe a new player does not quit because he finds out he has entered a playground for bullies.  It's embarrassing.  I cannot even talk to outsiders who I meet about the game because then "I am guilty by association".

With all due respect Rick, you were a trouble maker in Air Warrior.  I enjoyed the show, but cmon now with the holier than thou.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on March 18, 2014, 03:23:17 PM
Yes, he would, until he called us and we checked and found a call for those reports.  At that time, we would unsuspend the player, and then suspend every player who issued the reports.

Abusing the system has its own penalties.

If you guys put half as much energy into playing fair and nice with the community, as you do in trying to figure out how to get away with abusing the community, it would be awesome!

Why is there a need to force mass-muted players to prove their innocence?  99% don't know to call the office and ask for a review.  Why couldn't a mass report generate a PM to the Mod that is playing and let them make the call? 

Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 03:30:01 PM
Why is there a need to force mass-muted players to prove their innocence?  99% don't know to call the office and ask for a review.  Why couldn't a mass report generate a PM to the Mod that is playing and let them make the call? 

Neh. Don't let the mod make the call. Everything creates a log and it all goes to 11751 Alta Vista Rd, Suite 203, Keller, TX. I'm sure mutes aren't so common as to make reviewing them a chore.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on March 18, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
Neh. Don't let the mod make the call. Everything creates a log and it all goes to 11751 Alta Vista Rd, Suite 203, Keller, TX. I'm sure mutes aren't so common as to make reviewing them a chore.

That's one of the reasons they're there.  Why not?  It keeps Skuzzy from fielding the phone call and that, in turn keeps him from working on things I can play with.

Based on the sheer number of posts about being muted on the BBS, I'd say that's a poor assumption.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Zoney on March 18, 2014, 03:35:59 PM
With all due respect Rick, you were a trouble maker in Air Warrior.  I enjoyed the show, but cmon now with the holier than thou.

Respectfully acknowledged.  I was the worst.  I should have either had my ability to chat revoked or they should have cancelled my account.  I certainly deserved it.  By nothing happening I was never encouraged to change.  And then one day I decided to make the change in myself shortly before leaving WarBirds.  When I came to Aces High, I did not bring the fool that I was with me. It took a long time for those that knew me to realize I had completely changed and I had a bit of that baggage in AH but with time, most folks realized that my new attitude was not just lip service.

I really was the worst.  I apologize for how I was.  If I can find a way to treat people well, anyone can.  But you have to want it for yourself.  I hope that happens before you lose your privileges.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: HawkerMKII on March 18, 2014, 03:44:08 PM
The point that Midway made was that there is a certain degree of emotion and frustration expected when people are competing, and there is certainly an acceptable level of insult that is within reasonable limits to project towards another player.

Whether it is a video game, the olympics, a professional sporting event, etc.  In any sport, jawing back and forth between players is very common, and fights break out in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, every season, every game in the NHL it seems.  To ignore this basic human nature is to stick your head in the sand.

Let me use this as an in game example, say a squadron is specifically targetting a player to hunt and shoot down, for example my squad shooting down FlyinFin anytime he is online because we like getting under his skin.  It is completely reasonable that he will go off his rocker on channel 200 crying foul and insulting us.  Isn't that part of the fun?

Rule #1....It's HT's sand box
Rule #2....Play by his rules
Rule #3....Don't like 1 and 2..........the door is open. I see no reason this thread is still going myself :huh
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 03:44:39 PM
Respectfully acknowledged.  I was the worst.  I should have either had my ability to chat revoked or they should have cancelled my account.  I certainly deserved it.  By nothing happening I was never encouraged to change.  And then one day I decided to make the change in myself shortly before leaving WarBirds.  When I came to Aces High, I did not bring the fool that I was with me. It took a long time for those that knew me to realize I had completely changed and I had a bit of that baggage in AH but with time, most folks realized that my new attitude was not just lip service.

I really was the worst.  I apologize for how I was.  If I can find a way to treat people well, anyone can.  But you have to want it for yourself.  I hope that happens before you lose your privileges.

Excellent post and a good example. A lot of us got caught up in 'type wars' I reckon. I'm pretty much '200 free' now. It'd be great if the 'help channel' didn't occasionally resemble '200 junior.'  I'd like to see the new players given a good first impression. ;)  :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 18, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
Changeup, properly used, the report mechanism works.  It allows the community a way to control the game environment.  if they want it a bit spicy, then they can have it a bit spicy.  If they want it mundane, they can have it mundane.

The number of times it has been abused is quite small.

The mods have enough on their plates.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 18, 2014, 03:58:32 PM
Rule #1....It's HT's sand box
Rule #2....Play by his rules
Rule #3....Don't like 1 and 2..........the door is open. I see no reason this thread is still going myself :huh


Wow, so profound Hawker!

The point is, the rules are vague, and the line is gray.  Some level of banter and insult should be expected, but extremes should be avoided.  Simple concept that should be easy to understand for most. 
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 18, 2014, 04:01:34 PM
Changeup, properly used, the report mechanism works.  It allows the community a way to control the game environment.  if they want it a bit spicy, then they can have it a bit spicy.  If they want it mundane, they can have it mundane.

The number of times it has been abused is quite small.

The mods have enough on their plates.

Ha, so you are saying that the community decides how much is too much.  Thanks for making my point!  :aok
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 04:03:32 PM
Wow, so profound Hawker!

The point is, the rules are vague, and the line is gray.  Some level of banter and insult should be expected, but extremes should be avoided.  Simple concept that should be easy to understand for most. 

Here's a black and white measuring stick for you: Treat the other player with respect (even if it means ignoring) and you will never have your chat privs suspended. Period. Looking for anything in the grey to see 'how far you can take things' is just experimenting with your inner brat.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 18, 2014, 04:12:01 PM
Here's a black and white measuring stick for you: Treat the other player with respect (even if it means ignoring) and you will never have your chat privs suspended. Period. Looking for anything in the grey to see 'how far you can take things' is just experimenting with your inner brat.

I find your condescending tone to be very disrespectful.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 04:16:44 PM
I find your condescending tone to be very disrespectful.

It wasn't but report me.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on March 18, 2014, 05:06:45 PM
It wasn't but report me.

Does this qualify as flame baiting? 
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
Does this qualify as flame baiting? 

Does it? Report it.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: LCADolby on March 18, 2014, 05:23:06 PM
You have to take Arlo with a pinch of zack1234. Use your mind to add  :old: after every post.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 05:27:55 PM
You have to take Arlo with a pinch of zack1234. Use your mind to add  :old: after every post.

Your sarcastic jab is very insulting. I should report you.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Debrody on March 18, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
Your sarcastic jab is very insulting. I should report you.
Go for it, middy. Yea, its a flamebait. Report it  :old:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 05:45:53 PM
Go for it, middy. Yea, its a flamebait. Report it  :old:

Oh, you are so disappointing.  :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: TwinBoom on March 18, 2014, 05:48:04 PM
im reporting every last one of you
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: LCADolby on March 18, 2014, 06:46:03 PM
Your sarcastic jab is very insulting. I should report you. :old:

See it works
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Lazerr on March 18, 2014, 06:54:59 PM
Nastiness is a seemingly more welcome thing in this world lately.  If you don't believe me think about the garbage on television.  This doesnt justify anything, just a comment.  This world is going the wrong way quickly.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: ink on March 18, 2014, 07:04:35 PM
Nastiness is a seemingly more welcome thing in this world lately.  If you don't believe me think about the garbage on television.  This doesnt justify anything, just a comment.  This world is going the wrong way quickly.

I agree :aok
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: ROC on March 18, 2014, 07:05:57 PM
I'll start this with a joke.

Quote
There is no element of competition in a restaurant.
You've clearly never seen my wife and mother in law at the Olive Garden!!!

Now the serious part.

You guys are arguing with Skuzzy, who has the logs and the facts, and are supplying opinions and speculation.
Have fun with that :)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Midway on March 18, 2014, 07:08:54 PM
Grizz is a very smart and perceptive person.  :old:

I miss you Grizz.  :cry

At least you grace us with your presence on the forum. For that, I thank you.  :rock


Scuzzy, obviously getting extreme is something that should not be tolerated, but I stand by my original comment that HTC is a little too harsh/strict, especially when in a grey area. Just my opinion based on thousands of hours of in game experience.  

You can certainly tell me I know nothing about this and you can ignore this one person's opinion, but my love for what you all created compels me to at least give you my honest opinion, just in case you care. :salute
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 18, 2014, 07:22:44 PM
Nastiness is a seemingly more welcome thing in this world lately.  If you don't believe me think about the garbage on television.  This doesnt justify anything, just a comment.  This world is going the wrong way quickly.

I blame Lazer for the civil unrest, lawlessness and general state of our culture.  :old:

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 07:31:22 PM
http://youtu.be/fhgFM7T6GH0
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Debrody on March 18, 2014, 07:42:22 PM
Oh, you are so disappointing.  :D
Disappointing disappointments like you make me disappointingly disappointed. cheese.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 07:46:29 PM
Disappointing disappointments like you make me disappointingly disappointed. cheese.

Oh behave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1lJFlB-89Q
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Debrody on March 18, 2014, 07:48:13 PM
Oh behave.
Im not MickyD though. Just an a-hole.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 07:51:16 PM
Im not MickyD though. Just an a-hole.

Kind of a minor one at that but I still like ya.  :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 18, 2014, 07:59:48 PM
Disappointing disappointments like you make me disappointingly disappointed. cheese.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_manxt3CV0U1r76lino1_500.gif)

Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on March 18, 2014, 08:26:52 PM
See it works

Ha!
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 18, 2014, 08:31:47 PM
Ha!

Then you explain it.  :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Midway on March 18, 2014, 09:56:34 PM
Im not MickyD though. Just an a-hole.

<3 Debrody

All those times you helped me in the DA, all those good fights, all that fun, all that name calling and fussin, all that..

Well, you get the picture.  :)

Debrody :rock
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 18, 2014, 11:19:35 PM
Debrody and Midway being nice to one another?!?!?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6ay3S5L86k4/Uw_yP8vfTQI/AAAAAAAAAqY/TpHAtYGEdJs/s1600/dogs-and-cats-living-together.png)

Sweet Mercy....the End Times are upon us!!!!  :D


Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: danny76 on March 19, 2014, 01:28:27 AM
Grizz is a very smart and perceptive person.  :old:

I miss you Grizz.  :cry

At least you grace us with your presence on the forum. For that, I thank you.  :rock


Scuzzy, obviously getting extreme is something that should not be tolerated, but I stand by my original comment that HTC is a little too harsh/strict, especially when in a grey area. Just my opinion based on thousands of hours of in game experience.  

You can certainly tell me I know nothing about this and you can ignore this one person's opinion, but my love for what you all created compels me to at least give you my honest opinion, just in case you care. :salute

Seems  clear to me that what Scuzzy is talking about extends much further than a handbag fight on 200, and into disparagement of the company. Judging by the OP's subsequent posts I would suggest the action taken against him was lenient!
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 19, 2014, 03:13:20 AM
Seems  clear to me that what Scuzzy is talking about extends much further than a handbag fight on 200, and into disparagement of the company. Judging by the OP's subsequent posts I would suggest the action taken against him was lenient!

Other correlations have been made but it kinda sounds like a guy who walks into a bar every night proving he can't hold his liquor or tongue by telling the bartender and owner how much the bar stinks then hopping on stage and trying to perform an impromptu karaoke number about it (and still expecting service at the end of it all).
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Debrody on March 19, 2014, 03:28:21 AM
Debrody and Midway being nice to one another?!?!?
Never.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 19, 2014, 03:32:05 AM
Never is an awfully long time. Besides, it's reason for make-up you-know-what.  :cool:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 19, 2014, 07:01:24 AM
Never.

Oh thank God....I has just getting ready to order the Doomsday Bomb Shelter materials!!  :D

Besides, it's reason for make-up you-know-what.  :cool:

That's a mental picture I did not need this morning.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick006.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Debrody on March 19, 2014, 08:12:19 AM
Oh thank God....I has just getting ready to order the Doomsday Bomb Shelter materials!!  :D
Would love to return and show those sissies who daddy is, but after missing that much time, they would completely demolish me now.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 19, 2014, 08:15:45 AM
Would love to return and show those sissies who daddy is, but after missing that much time, they would completely demolish me now.

It's like getting on a bike, bud.  It would come back fast....and speaking from experience, I've found leaving for a while and "clearing the air" actually improves both enjoyment of and performance in the game.  YMMV of course.

Hope to see you back one day.  Not many actually fight in the Dora.  :salute
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Debrody on March 19, 2014, 08:23:16 AM
Not many actually fight.
This holds me back.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 19, 2014, 08:54:46 AM
This holds me back.

Bah.  Make them fight....or rather, sucker them into a fight.

You need to start flying the 110, my friend.  SOOOOOoooooo many suckers out there.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Debrody on March 19, 2014, 09:02:31 AM
You need to start flying the 110, my friend.  SOOOOOoooooo many suckers out there.   ;)
There was a reason i only flew the 190D, will never fly anything else.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: aztec on March 19, 2014, 09:02:40 AM

Whether it is a video game, the olympics, a professional sporting event, etc.  In any sport, jawing back and forth between players is very common, and fights break out in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, every season, every game in the NHL it seems.  To ignore this basic human nature is to stick your head in the sand.


So you don't believe there is a price to be paid by this behavior...I think you are the one with your head up...er in the sand.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Lusche on March 19, 2014, 10:01:26 AM
There was a reason i only flew the 190D,

 :huh
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 19, 2014, 10:19:22 AM
So you don't believe there is a price to be paid by this behavior...I think you are the one with your head up...er in the sand.

Your post is insulting, in that you are purposely insinuating my head is where the sun dont shine but not actually saying it. What you have done is decided where the line is and opted for an insult that doesn't cross that line. Thanks for unwittingly proving my point again champ.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 19, 2014, 10:59:30 AM
Your post is insulting, in that you are purposely insinuating my head is where the sun dont shine but not actually saying it. What you have done is decided where the line is and opted for an insult that doesn't cross that line. Thanks for unwittingly proving my point again champ.

Actually, the 'not actually saying it' says it all and is quite the opposite of 'your point.'   :aok
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: TheBug on March 19, 2014, 11:06:30 AM
I'm confused.  :headscratch:

What is "his point"?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: aztec on March 19, 2014, 11:07:05 AM
Your post is insulting, in that you are purposely insinuating my head is where the sun dont shine but not actually saying it. What you have done is decided where the line is and opted for an insult that doesn't cross that line. Thanks for unwittingly proving my point again champ.
Time will tell whether or not it crosses the line. I see you protest loudly when the game is played as you think is ok. You are a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on March 19, 2014, 11:10:58 AM
I'm confused.  :headscratch:

What is "his point"?

That some people just don't know when they cross the line (banning chat privs is just plain unfair).  :lol
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Reaper90 on March 19, 2014, 11:14:55 AM
There was a reason i only flew the 190D, will never fly anything else.

A huge disservice to yourself, you have done.

/Yoda

I've been limiting myself to only 30 eny and higher aircraft. Been huge fun, and a challenge. LOADS of fun lately in the Yak-7b, I-16, and Ki-61.....
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 19, 2014, 11:15:18 AM
There is no such thing as a "line in the sand" or a "gray area", as fixed ideas.  It is all about context and the environment/atmosphere in the arena.  It is, at best, a moving target.

Treating anyone in a manner, which is creating a negative environment in the arena, is also accepting the fact you may lose your text and/or VOX privileges.

That is about as simple as it gets.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: TheBug on March 19, 2014, 11:21:04 AM
That some people just don't know when they cross the line (banning chat privs is just plain unfair).  :lol

Thanks Arlo.  Wonder why he didn't just say that?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: BluBerry on March 19, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
some of these shiz talkers should keep their text / vox privs and lose their LA7, Spit16, P51 privileges.  :old:

Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 19, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
some of these shiz talkers should keep their text / vox privs and lose their LA7, Spit16, P51 privileges.  :old:

 :rofl
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: danny76 on March 19, 2014, 11:37:10 AM
:rofl

Now there's a concept :aok
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: LCADolby on March 19, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
some of these shiz talkers should keep their text / vox privs and lose their LA7, Spit16, P51 privileges.  :old:



Force them into P40s!
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: ReVo on March 19, 2014, 12:47:04 PM
Force them into P40s!

Hey! I actually like the P40!
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: LCADolby on March 19, 2014, 12:49:52 PM
I love the C, but the types that live in P51s, La7 and spit16s will hate it immensely  :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 19, 2014, 02:33:25 PM
There is no such thing as a "line in the sand" or a "gray area", as fixed ideas.  It is all about context and the environment/atmosphere in the arena.  It is, at best, a moving target.

Treating anyone in a manner, which is creating a negative environment in the arena, is also accepting the fact you may lose your text and/or VOX privileges.

That is about as simple as it gets.

So if I call someone "weak" and they report me, I get muted when the report logs are reviewed?  Per your definition it was a negative comment and they took offense and since there is no gray area a mute is the only course of action.  And since there is no gray area all punishments should be the same since gauging the severity of the offense implies there is grayness. 
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: SkyRock on March 19, 2014, 02:38:07 PM
I've never been chat suspended....
















 :noid
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Golden Dragon on March 19, 2014, 02:41:10 PM
some of these shiz talkers should keep their text / vox privs and lose their LA7, Spit16, P51 privileges.  :old:



You forgot the Tempest.  I often see the biggest smack talker in the game running away in one of those.  Nothing brings me as much joy as screaming down from altitude and booming and zooming him to death.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Bear76 on March 19, 2014, 04:06:12 PM
I've never been chat suspended....
















 :noid

That in itself is amazing  :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: SkyRock on March 19, 2014, 05:29:41 PM
That in itself is amazing  :D
even more so if it were true!   :devil
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: guncrasher on March 19, 2014, 07:45:14 PM
There was a reason i only flew the 190D, will never fly anything else.

probably the same reason I fly the ponyd.  d's are better than c's.


semp
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: hotard on March 19, 2014, 10:36:16 PM
Currently chat suspended.. for any one of a dozen posts probably.  Coincidently HTC is currently auto withdrawl suspended. :banana:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Debrody on March 19, 2014, 10:37:33 PM
probably the same reason I fly the ponyd.  d's are better than c's.


semp
Nope.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Triton28 on March 19, 2014, 10:48:32 PM
Ya'll just need to be a nice guy like me and you won't have anything to worry about.   :aok
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Midway on March 21, 2014, 09:28:38 AM
Ya'll just need to be a nice guy like me and you won't have anything to worry about.   :aok

 :aok
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Hoplite on March 21, 2014, 11:10:14 AM
Ya'll just need to be a nice guy like me and you won't have anything to worry about.   :aok

People who fly mini-bombers cant be nice.....
 
:bolt:
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Dragon on March 22, 2014, 09:27:09 PM
So if I call someone "weak" and they report me, I get muted when the report logs are reviewed?  Per your definition it was a negative comment and they took offense and since there is no gray area a mute is the only course of action.  And since there is no gray area all punishments should be the same since gauging the severity of the offense implies there is grayness. 

You won't get muted for saying "Your gunnery skills are weak, that's why you go for the HO"  It's actually constructive criticism.

Saying "Your mothers skills as a ho are weaker than your gunnery skills", well, yeah, you're gonna get muted.


No gray area at all.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 23, 2014, 02:09:23 PM
Dragon do you really think you proved your point by citing two specific examples?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: dirtdart on March 23, 2014, 03:26:56 PM
How ya been grizz?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2014, 09:04:09 PM
How ya been grizz?

as usual he's whining.


semp
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on March 23, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
as usual he's whining.


semp

Heya semp one of my favorite baby seals  :rock
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2014, 11:49:05 PM
Heya semp one of my favorite baby seals  :rock

only when you see me taking off from a base then you switch countries  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


semp
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: ink on March 24, 2014, 12:22:31 AM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Bear76 on March 24, 2014, 02:12:12 AM
only when you see me taking off from a base then you switch countries  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


semp

How else is he going to club you captain obvious?  :)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: guncrasher on March 24, 2014, 02:46:12 AM
How else is he going to club you captain obvious?  :)

does a bear crap in the woods?


semp
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Bear76 on March 24, 2014, 02:58:38 AM
does a bear crap in the woods?


semp

Only if you're there  ;)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: hlbly on March 24, 2014, 04:24:45 AM
There is no such thing as a "line in the sand" or a "gray area", as fixed ideas.  It is all about context and the environment/atmosphere in the arena.  It is, at best, a moving target.

Treating anyone in a manner, which is creating a negative environment in the arena, is also accepting the fact you may lose your text and/or VOX privileges.

That is about as simple as it gets.
Seems to me that this reasoning is used to allow different levels of accountability. It certainly is on the boards. I told a joke on my first post after I had recovered enough to fly again. It compared hillbillys to English royalty . I was immediately PNG'ed from the boards. I apologized to everyone and since it was my first offense I was allowed back on. Then a little while later  I posted some pictures of my  then 20 year old daughter . One was a professional picture of her modeling a bra. Nothing you do not see on TV or catalogs. She was called a hore. She was made out to be a drug addled degenerate. I was called a pimp. The results ? Nothing, it was allowed. Was the offending post even deleted ? Nope. At best a moving target. It is entirely subjective and at best unevenly enforced. My one chat suspension. I told a man his momma should have unhinged her jaw and swallowed him whole at birth. If she had any social conscience at all. He said his momma was dead and that was too far. I was not chat suspended until the next day after he called and complained. I said this in reply to his comment that I was suffering from a closed head wound. Ever spend 13 months learning how to walk, talk ,tie your shoes again? I was still recovering from a closed head wound . An LOD injury I will never recover completely from. Results for him ? Nothing again. You may rationalize it any way you like to it is your baby. Please do not insult me by claiming it is enforced in anything like a fair manner. My daughter was called a hore and a drug addict. HTC did nothing. I was abused about an injury I received in the line of duty as a soldier. An injury I will never recover from completely. You did nothing in either case. Both were reported. Grizz and I hate to say it Midway both have a valid point. Regardless of your willingness to acknowledge it. I have probably gone too far. My sense of justice would not allow me to let it pass. I will pay the price for it if I must.


P.S the drug addicted hore graduated with honors from Oregon State and is now in training for the FBI. Still has not used a drug. She also will be marrying when she graduates Quantico. Not bad for her or her pimp dad.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 24, 2014, 06:39:11 AM
Did you report the posts?  If you did not, then it is highly unlikely we saw it.

We do not read every post on this board.  Report the thread, if you want something done.  I can say with 100% certainty I did not get any reports about any such thread, but rather that trust my memory, I would prefer you to show me that thread to be sure.

If nothing is done, it is because it was not reported.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 24, 2014, 09:19:56 AM
Seems to me that this reasoning is used to allow different levels of accountability. It certainly is on the boards. I told a joke on my first post after I had recovered enough to fly again. It compared hillbillys to English royalty . I was immediately PNG'ed from the boards. I apologized to everyone and since it was my first offense I was allowed back on. Then a little while later  I posted some pictures of my  then 20 year old daughter . One was a professional picture of her modeling a bra. Nothing you do not see on TV or catalogs. She was called a hore. She was made out to be a drug addled degenerate. I was called a pimp. The results ? Nothing, it was allowed. Was the offending post even deleted ? Nope. At best a moving target. It is entirely subjective and at best unevenly enforced. My one chat suspension. I told a man his momma should have unhinged her jaw and swallowed him whole at birth. If she had any social conscience at all. He said his momma was dead and that was too far. I was not chat suspended until the next day after he called and complained. I said this in reply to his comment that I was suffering from a closed head wound. Ever spend 13 months learning how to walk, talk ,tie your shoes again? I was still recovering from a closed head wound . An LOD injury I will never recover completely from. Results for him ? Nothing again. You may rationalize it any way you like to it is your baby. Please do not insult me by claiming it is enforced in anything like a fair manner. My daughter was called a hore and a drug addict. HTC did nothing. I was abused about an injury I received in the line of duty as a soldier. An injury I will never recover from completely. You did nothing in either case. Both were reported. Grizz and I hate to say it Midway both have a valid point. Regardless of your willingness to acknowledge it. I have probably gone too far. My sense of justice would not allow me to let it pass. I will pay the price for it if I must.


P.S the drug addicted hore graduated with honors from Oregon State and is now in training for the FBI. Still has not used a drug. She also will be marrying when she graduates Quantico. Not bad for her or her pimp dad.


Okay, the thread in question is from September 2008.  I excised a post and when reading the rest, it was clear the thread was lost and so it was locked, back in 2008.  A number of the people, posting in that thread, got suspended from the board.

Saying we did nothing is not a factual statement, at all.

Had I edited every post, which broke a forum rule violation, your posts would have been excised as well.  I saw no point in adding insult to injury and to be consistent, just locked it and booted the offenders off the board for a while.  The time of the suspension being commensurate with how many times each person had been suspended before.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: TheBug on March 24, 2014, 10:38:07 AM
Bet it gets tiring...
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Midway on March 24, 2014, 05:01:53 PM
...graduated with honors from Oregon State and is now in training for the FBI. Still has not used a drug. She also will be marrying when she graduates Quantico....


Awesome.   :aok

 :salute hlbly :rock
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Gemini on March 24, 2014, 05:15:17 PM
hlbly, I'd need to see the picture of your 20 year old daughter in her bra in order to accurately judge the level of outrage that I should be feeling, regarding the moderation or lack of it

(http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/images/smilies/hurry.gif)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: guncrasher on March 24, 2014, 06:09:57 PM
Seems to me that this reasoning is used to allow different levels of accountability. It certainly is on the boards. I told a joke on my first post after I had recovered enough to fly again. It compared hillbillys to English royalty . I was immediately PNG'ed from the boards. I apologized to everyone and since it was my first offense I was allowed back on. Then a little while later  I posted some pictures of my  then 20 year old daughter . One was a professional picture of her modeling a bra. Nothing you do not see on TV or catalogs. She was called a hore. She was made out to be a drug addled degenerate. I was called a pimp. The results ? Nothing, it was allowed. Was the offending post even deleted ? Nope. At best a moving target. It is entirely subjective and at best unevenly enforced. My one chat suspension. I told a man his momma should have unhinged her jaw and swallowed him whole at birth. If she had any social conscience at all. He said his momma was dead and that was too far. I was not chat suspended until the next day after he called and complained. I said this in reply to his comment that I was suffering from a closed head wound. Ever spend 13 months learning how to walk, talk ,tie your shoes again? I was still recovering from a closed head wound . An LOD injury I will never recover completely from. Results for him ? Nothing again. You may rationalize it any way you like to it is your baby. Please do not insult me by claiming it is enforced in anything like a fair manner. My daughter was called a hore and a drug addict. HTC did nothing. I was abused about an injury I received in the line of duty as a soldier. An injury I will never recover from completely. You did nothing in either case. Both were reported. Grizz and I hate to say it Midway both have a valid point. Regardless of your willingness to acknowledge it. I have probably gone too far. My sense of justice would not allow me to let it pass. I will pay the price for it if I must.


P.S the drug addicted hore graduated with honors from Oregon State and is now in training for the FBI. Still has not used a drug. She also will be marrying when she graduates Quantico. Not bad for her or her pimp dad.


hilblly I have the most beautiful daughter in the world.  and the reason I never post pictures of her is because somebody is always gonna say something I wont like.  and then there's gonna be a fight.

I am pretty sure your daughter is a decent woman, but you posting a picture of her in a bra was not a good idea.  I am pretty sure you meant well but there's always gonna be others who will disagree with you.

if they made comments regarding her you should have expected that.   you have been around the bb's a bit longer than me.


semp
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 25, 2014, 06:15:22 AM
The picture did not show her bra.  It should straps of what could have been a slip, or even a dress.  Had the picture actually shown a minor in her underwear, hlbly would not be here today.

The matter was addressed over five years ago.  Let it go folks.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: BluBerry on March 25, 2014, 02:24:30 PM
Had the picture actually shown a minor in her underwear, hlbly would not be here today.

his daughter was 20 at the time just fyi.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on March 25, 2014, 02:32:38 PM
his daughter was 20 at the time just fyi.

Ahh,..then I retract what I said as it pertains to hlbly and offer an apology for the statement.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: hlbly on April 07, 2014, 04:03:02 AM
Okay, the thread in question is from September 2008.  I excised a post and when reading the rest, it was clear the thread was lost and so it was locked, back in 2008.  A number of the people, posting in that thread, got suspended from the board.

Saying we did nothing is not a factual statement, at all.

Had I edited every post, which broke a forum rule violation, your posts would have been excised as well.  I saw no point in adding insult to injury and to be consistent, just locked it and booted the offenders off the board for a while.  The time of the suspension being commensurate with how many times each person had been suspended before.
The other day Skyyr made implied statements about the same daughter. Report was logged, email was sent. No reply and Skyyr still speaks on 200.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on April 07, 2014, 06:38:06 AM
The other day Skyyr made implied statements about the same daughter. Report was logged, email was sent. No reply and Skyyr still speaks on 200.

I never got an email from you and I cannot send you any responses via PM on the bulletin board (you have some auto-responder enabled) which is our alternate form of comms when email does not work with a player.

As I have said, for years, if you do not get an email response, within 1 business day of sending it, then we probably did not get it.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on April 07, 2014, 08:48:24 AM
The other day Skyyr made implied statements about the same daughter. Report was logged, email was sent. No reply and Skyyr still speaks on 200.

Found the email.  It landed in my inbox at 10:02pm Friday night. 

We do not have any office hours over the weekend.  I do check the boards, when I am at home and try to help out, but things like this cannot be handled until we are in the office.

Our office hours are 8:30am to 5:00pm CST, Monday through Friday.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: SkyRock on April 07, 2014, 09:43:59 AM
the other day, no one was willing to fight... I got bored trying to get people(ack bunnies) to fight... so I was trying to start a fight over an island base I was headed to... I stated on 200, "SkyRock<---owns the airspace over A16"...  no one came off the field...   so I stated, "reagan was a bad president" and immediately got a warning for talkig politics (which I see all the time on 200)... so I said ok... then stated, "jesus never existed" and immediately got muted for 2 hours... 
I see politics and religion all the time on 200, and much worse... but either there was a touchy mod on, or some divine interference!  :furious






 :noid

Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Sunka on April 07, 2014, 09:44:12 AM
Found the email.  It landed in my inbox at 10:02pm Friday night.  

We do not have any office hours over the weekend.  

I always thought that its a bit odd the bbs and game gets just ignored on the weekends.Most small company's like this one with few employs just don't have weekends totally free.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on April 07, 2014, 09:55:20 AM
I always thought that its a bit odd the bbs and game gets just ignored on the weekends.Most small company's like this one with few employs just don't have weekends totally free.

It is not ignored.  It is monitored.  We just do not go into the office on the weekends.  We answer a lot of questions before 6:30am, and after 6:00pm CST all the time, on the bulletin board.

We have monitors which notify us of problems with temperatures, power, server outages and so on.  We have been in the office many times, at off hours making sure things run smoothly.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Sunka on April 07, 2014, 09:57:01 AM
It is not ignored.  It is monitored.  We just do not go into the office on the weekends.  We answer a lot of questions before 6:30am, and after 6:00pm CST all the time, on the bulletin board.
Ah okay,just always seemed that the bbs runs wild on the weekends.
 :aok
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: hitech on April 07, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
Ah okay,just always seemed that the bbs runs wild on the weekends.
 :aok

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,360761.375.html


See this thread towards the last 2 pages, notice the Monitoring/editing by me on Sunday?

HiTech
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on April 07, 2014, 01:18:12 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,360761.375.html


See this thread towards the last 2 pages, notice the Monitoring/editing by me on Sunday?

HiTech

Cool!!  The fraud thread :D :rofl
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on April 07, 2014, 06:26:13 PM
Cool!!  The fraud thread :D :rofl

And here I thought of it as the crawdad thread. Go fig.  :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: grizz441 on April 07, 2014, 07:43:58 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,360761.375.html


See this thread towards the last 2 pages, notice the Monitoring/editing by me on Sunday?

HiTech

This one time I came in to work on the weekend, and my boss happened to show up and see me there.  Now he just assumes I am there every weekend.  It was the smartest thing I ever did to show up that weekend when he showed up I tell you what.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on April 07, 2014, 07:56:06 PM
And here I thought of it as the crawdad thread. Go fig.  :D

You got wrongly called a crawdad?
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on April 07, 2014, 08:12:56 PM
You got wrongly called a crawdad?

I see where you went with that. I wanna see where this goes.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on April 07, 2014, 09:20:07 PM
I see where you went with that. I wanna see where this goes.  ;)

Niiiice!  :D
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Arlo on April 07, 2014, 09:39:40 PM
Niiiice!  :D

That other thread is still open, by the way. I can't say I didn't mean to put you on the spot. I actually did. I think the part where you gossiped with fellow officers about how those ridiculous enlisted types didn't give you the respect you deserved pretty much convinced me you never lead men in combat. Granted, I could be wrong, I guess. I've not lead nor have I followed in combat. But then, I've never claimed to. But those I've met .... who have .... have never acted that shamefully.

All I asked was .... what men did you lead in combat and where? I challenged you to put up or shut up ... with my offering to shut up if you put up. If it was classified you wouldn't have even hinted (well, you shouldn't have). Isn't there a better way you could impress a game community?  Do you feel unfairly put upon?  Are you unable to respond effectively? :)
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: hlbly on April 07, 2014, 09:48:38 PM
Ahh,..then I retract what I said as it pertains to hlbly and offer an apology for the statement.
My poor manners . Apology accepted.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: hlbly on April 07, 2014, 09:55:21 PM
Niiiice!  :D
Changeup I am going to tell him a few things I know for certain in a few. Where is this thread where you supposedly denigrate EM ? I know for a fact how you react to abuse from an NCO. Well what would be considered  gross insubordination at the least if it where not for the circumstance.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on April 07, 2014, 10:48:37 PM
That other thread is still open, by the way. I can't say I didn't mean to put you on the spot. I actually did. I think the part where you gossiped with fellow officers about how those ridiculous enlisted types didn't give you the respect you deserved pretty much convinced me you never lead men in combat. Granted, I could be wrong, I guess. I've not lead nor have I followed in combat. But then, I've never claimed to. But those I've met .... who have .... have never acted that shamefully.

All I asked was .... what men did you lead in combat and where? I challenged you to put up or shut up ... with my offering to shut up if you put up. If it was classified you wouldn't have even hinted (well, you shouldn't have). Isn't there a better way you could impress a game community?  Do you feel unfairly put upon?  Are you unable to respond effectively? :)

You don't matter to me Arlo nor does what you think.  I've already explained that to you so you must not be very intelligent.  If we were friends, I'd tell ya whatever you wanted to know.  We aren't and we won't ever be.  If that hurts your feelings...get over it.  My silence to you is directly proportional to your BBS attitude.   But your challenges??  pffft. 
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Changeup on April 07, 2014, 10:49:48 PM
Changeup I am going to tell him a few things I know for certain in a few. Where is this thread where you supposedly denigrate EM ? I know for a fact how you react to abuse from an NCO. Well what would be considered  gross insubordination at the least if it where not for the circumstance.

No need.  I'm not concerned in the least.
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: hlbly on April 07, 2014, 11:59:52 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: hlbly on April 08, 2014, 12:04:23 AM
See Rule #10
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: hlbly on April 08, 2014, 12:05:09 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Midway on April 08, 2014, 06:22:14 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Chat suspended HA!! dont call anyone an a-hole!
Post by: Skuzzy on April 08, 2014, 06:22:52 AM
I have already explained this once.

Policies change.  At one time we excised every post, even when we banned/suspended a person from the board.  We no longer excise posts of the suspended people.  We do this so we can point out why they got suspended when they email us and ask why.

I am not going to explain it again.  If you cannot understand it, then contact me privately and I will be happy to go through it all over again and again, until you get it.

This should have never been brought to the board, to begin with.