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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BBP on March 26, 2014, 03:32:05 PM
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Well, I couldn't wait to get back in the cockpit of my D-9. I take off and saw a red dot on my radar. I started searching and finally saw a ZERO. He saw me in pursuit and headed for the clouds. I followed him up for 14 minutes total. I'll give him credit he was staying out of reach of my guns and climbing well. We finally got to 30,000 feet. I got to 1000 feet from him and he hits the ripcord. He is gone! He is outta there. I'm left scrambling to try and make a hit on his plane which is falling fast while flipping and turning. I was at 500 MPH about to hit the wall were I will have to back off. BINGO! I got lucky and hit his plane with one of my cannons. It explodes and I get the kill. I should be happy but I'm not. I don't play the game for that crap. I return to base. Log the film.
I take off and again I see a red dot on the radar. I take off in the direction of the dot. It did take long to intercept a 110 on the deck. I turn around and point my nose in his direction. BINGO.......he hits the ripcord and he is gone, his plane hits the deck and blows up. I wasn't any where near him and never got off a shot. I return to base steaming. Is this the way the game is evolving? Rather than get shot down we just bail?
I see this happening more and more but today was my first day to be on the receiving end. It really takes the fun out of the game. I know in War this could be done but would it? Not if you wanted to live. I hope others who have had this done to them will speak up. I got mine on tape but doubt that sending them in will accomplish anything. If others speak up maybe AH will address the problem.
STOMP OUT THE CANCER!
KIMO :frown: :frown: :frown:
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Fisher01 did this to me last night, as did a Corsair who was flying with SFOX, Kodis, and SHawk the night before (I assume it was SFOX or SHawk, but I never checked the film to confirm).
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It's the way the game is now. People are more concerned about "WINNING ZE WAR!" than actually fighting it out and having fun. All I ever see anymore is mass NOE raids into empty bases for an easy take and if even one planes takes off to defend they will all give up and go mass NOE a different base. These past few days maps have just been getting steamrolled in 1-2 days (even the large maps that we usually get stuck with for 7 days!) because there are no fighter pilots left in the game.
Come join Aces High 2! An "Avoid combat at all cost Simulator!" That's what I think they game had become nowdays. I'm hoping with the new terrain update HTC picks up a bunch more new players who want to fight it out in their fighters, bombers, or vehicles. Not bomb and capture empty bases and bail at the first sight of an enemy.
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Well, I couldn't wait to get back in the cockpit of my D-9. I take off and saw a red dot on my radar. I started searching and finally saw a ZERO. He saw me in pursuit and headed for the clouds. I followed him up for 14 minutes total. I'll give him credit he was staying out of reach of my guns and climbing well. We finally got to 30,000 feet. I got to 1000 feet from him and he hits the ripcord. He is gone! He is outta there. I'm left scrambling to try and make a hit on his plane which is falling fast while flipping and turning. I was at 500 MPH about to hit the wall were I will have to back off. BINGO! I got lucky and hit his plane with one of my cannons. It explodes and I get the kill. I should be happy but I'm not. I don't play the game for that crap. I return to base. Log the film.
I take off and again I see a red dot on the radar. I take off in the direction of the dot. It did take long to intercept a 110 on the deck. I turn around and point my nose in his direction. BINGO.......he hits the ripcord and he is gone, his plane hits the deck and blows up. I wasn't any where near him and never got off a shot. I return to base steaming. Is this the way the game is evolving? Rather than get shot down we just bail?
I see this happening more and more but today was my first day to be on the receiving end. It really takes the fun out of the game. I know in War this could be done but would it? Not if you wanted to live. I hope others who have had this done to them will speak up. I got mine on tape but doubt that sending them in will accomplish anything. If others speak up maybe AH will address the problem.
STOMP OUT THE CANCER!
KIMO :frown: :frown: :frown:
You don't have to hit their plane to get a kill if you where in 1,000 ft of him you would get a instant proxie...
But I agree what a piss poor attitude
It's the way the game is now. People are more concerned about "WINNING ZE WAR!" than actually fighting it out and having fun. All I ever see anymore is mass NOE raids into empty bases for an easy take and if even one planes takes off to defend they will all give up and go mass NOE a different base. These past few days maps have just been getting steamrolled in 1-2 days (even the large maps that we usually get stuck with for 7 days!) because there are no fighter pilots left in the game.
Come join Aces High 2! An "Avoid combat at all cost Simulator!" That's what I think they game had become nowdays. I'm hoping with the new terrain update HTC picks up a bunch more new players who want to fight it out in their fighters, bombers, or vehicles. Not bomb and capture empty bases and bail at the first sight of an enemy.
And its not even a issue about "winning the war" its just people don't like to fight. Many people who like to win wars would still fight, like ET37s missions.
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it's the same issue with bomb and bail-which i don't care about--and lancstukas--but it's their 14.95 or 15.95 in my location it's 16.95
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And its not even a issue about "winning the war" its just people don't like to fight. Many people who like to win wars would still fight, like ET37s missions.
I do like people like ET or Jayro who get a bunch of people together to beat the crap out of our enemies. :)
The ones I don't like are the ones who bring a mass of planes to an undefended base, meet some opposition, and just give up to go hit a different empty base. This is the large majority of missions I see anymore. I'd love to see more mission planners like ET or Jayro who continue the fight once they meet opposition.
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Jayro raids are fun, he usually serves cake and ice cream afterwards.
ack-ack
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it's the same issue with bomb and bail-which i don't care about--and lancstukas--but it's their 14.95 or 15.95 in my location it's 16.95
Watch repeatedly until you feel better:
http://youtu.be/0Ly6u_KnlyE
:D
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Same as it ever was.
I really don't see anymore ganging, bailing, hoing, noe raiding, vulching, running, milk running, tool shedding or (insert term) than there ever was. I find good fights every night. Yes, some nights the map is getting steamrolled and its 2 countries vs 1, but the next night its a stalemate, or who is steamrolling who changes.
I'm all for encouraging fighting as thats the whole point, but I honestly don't think gameplay has changed much over the years. Aside from less overall players online, it all seems about the same to me.
Maybe Snailman has a bail spreadsheet somewhere :D
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I thought this was going to be about that guy spamming the O'Club with threads
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Maybe Snailman has a bail spreadsheet somewhere :D
Something like this?
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/fighetroutcome_zps3aebd511.jpg)
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Right. Except you need to break out undamaged bails and jabo suicides. :D :bolt:
Wiley.
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yup same ole same ole.... robbed of a kill to get a better score.. please tell me chivarly is not dead. If someone bails on you, pat yourself on the back. so what if you dont land a kill. you got the kill.
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Huh...I always thought that I killed them with my mind when that happens. Guess I was wrong... :(
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Right. Except you need to break out undamaged bails and jabo suicides. :D :bolt:
:neener:
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Something like this?
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/fighetroutcome_zps3aebd511.jpg)
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Thats actually pretty tragic viewing tbh
tours 21 to 54 approx were the best times for a2a combat
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Something like this?
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/fighetroutcome_zps3aebd511.jpg)
;)
Interesting. Does anyone know what occurred around Tour 52 that resulted in the big jumps on the graph at that time?
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Interesting. Does anyone know what occurred around Tour 52 that resulted in the big jumps on the graph at that time?
An outbreak of gay? :old:
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Interesting. Does anyone know what occurred around Tour 52 that resulted in the big jumps on the graph at that time?
AH I -> AH II
What the details of those changes were that might had been caused the jumps - that has to be explained by someone else.
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Thats actually pretty tragic viewing tbh
tours 21 to 54 approx were the best times for a2a combat
Weren't those the tours when we had that ridiculously stupid Top 15 contest for prizes?
ack-ack
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Weren't those the tours when we had that ridiculously stupid Top 15 contest for prizes?
That started December 2002, Tour 35
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An outbreak of gay? :old:
And you've been here ever since...?
;)
<S>
Ryno
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Yet I rarely have trouble trying to find other players who want to shoot me, at least when numbers are decent. What gives?
It's the way the game is now. People are more concerned about "WINNING ZE WAR!" than actually fighting it out and having fun. All I ever see anymore is mass NOE raids into empty bases for an easy take and if even one planes takes off to defend they will all give up and go mass NOE a different base. These past few days maps have just been getting steamrolled in 1-2 days (even the large maps that we usually get stuck with for 7 days!) because there are no fighter pilots left in the game.
Come join Aces High 2! An "Avoid combat at all cost Simulator!" That's what I think they game had become nowdays. I'm hoping with the new terrain update HTC picks up a bunch more new players who want to fight it out in their fighters, bombers, or vehicles. Not bomb and capture empty bases and bail at the first sight of an enemy.
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Fisher01 did this to me last night, as did a Corsair who was flying with SFOX, Kodis, and SHawk the night before (I assume it was SFOX or SHawk, but I never checked the film to confirm).
skyrr thats cuz ur mug is so ugly pilot would rather plummet to his death that see ur dome up close lol.. :rofl
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Bailing just prior to contact seems extremely rare to me. I can't remember how long it's been since that last happened to me.
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Bailing just prior to contact seems extremely rare to me. I can't remember how long it's been since that last happened to me.
I had it happen to me for the first time in a while about a week ago. Thought it was really odd, someone just bailing a fighter. Can't remember the last time it happened before that though.
Wiley.
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yup same ole same ole.... robbed of a kill to get a better score.. please tell me chivarly is not dead.
If they just continued flying straight and level with less energy than you would you shoot them?
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What is even better, when the tard bails when youre at 1k in his six and starts calling you a cheater, speed hack, etc.
yeah baby, worths your time
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how come I never see this fricking players bailing out?. I have to resort to get all my kills by rocket vulching and cherry picking. dang it, I wish I would get fired at work so I could play more.
semp
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Just don't go after the climbers. They will not come down mostly so they become a none issue. If they do come down, they are usually an easy kill.
Maybe a five minute tower suspension bail penalty might help. Or maybe a roll of the dice kind of thing that matched the death rate during WW2 bailouts. In other words when you bail there is a random chance you will die or even cooler, a random chance your parachute want open. Ouch!
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just increase proxy range. simple
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Watch repeatedly until you feel better:
http://youtu.be/0Ly6u_KnlyE
:D
lol yeah
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I am not sure fighters bailing is a cancer in the game so much as a symptom of some players/squads where score is more important than game play. Bailing is just another form of running from a 1v1, sometimes a full sector to your base ack. They have become experts at avoiding confrontation when they are anywhere near an equal E state. It's funny (not really) how you hardly ever find those types of players in anything but the fastest of planes (Pee-51's, Tempests and Run-90's).
It's their dime, but to spend their entire existence hiding in a corner waiting to pounce instead of mixing it up confounds me. The nice thing is, when you do catch them where they are forced to fight, they are easy kills. They don't have the skills, not enough practice.
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just read a story about Xbox Live with their yellow and red cards for detrimental gameplay.
A great idea. Everytime someone PM's me with a cheat accusation they get a yellow card and a red for bailing out infront of me! :old:
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I am not sure fighters bailing is a cancer in the game so much as a symptom of some players/squads where score is more important than game play
I really wonder where this persistent misconception comes from.
Bailing instead of trying to survive is absolutely detrimental to your score. Players bailing to get back to base an in the air again faster, or bailing to deny their opponent a possible kill, do not care about score at that moment at all.
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I really wonder where this persistent misconception comes from.
Bailing instead of trying to survive is absolutely detrimental to your score. Players bailing to get back to base an in the air again faster, or bailing to deny their opponent a possible kill, do not care about score at that moment at all.
Perhaps "score" was a bad choice of words.. Bailing is better (to them) than a death...
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how come I never see this fricking players bailing out?. I have to resort to get all my kills by rocket vulching and cherry picking. dang it, I wish I would get fired at work so I could play more.
semp
Its because you view the world around you differently than normal human beings, its called 'semp-a-vision' its a condition were your own inflated sense of being right all the time and having things all 'semp's' way actually causes you to hallucinate to a great extent. In fact even though I have typed this whole sentence out you will not be seeing everything I have typed. Someone affected with semp-a-vision would discard words that he wouldn't fit into his view of the world, leaving a pleasing result for the semp viewing it, so this paragraph viewed through the eyes of a semp would read...
"'Its normal 'semp's' great"
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A quick google did not find me any hard information. I did find an untraceable account that USAF figured 2-3% casualties in emergency bailouts. Not a firm enough source to suggest a bailout random death of say 5 out of 100 would be exaggerated.
Still, a random death while bailing out might be worth a wish.
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Its because you view the world around you differently than normal human beings, its called 'semp-a-vision' its a condition were your own inflated sense of being right all the time and having things all 'semp's' way actually causes you to hallucinate to a great extent. In fact even though I have typed this whole sentence out you will not be seeing everything I have typed. Someone affected with semp-a-vision would discard words that he wouldn't fit into his view of the world, leaving a pleasing result for the semp viewing it, so this paragraph viewed through the eyes of a semp would read...
"'Its normal 'semp's' great"
:rofl
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Jayro raids are fun, he usually serves cake and ice cream afterwards.
ack-ack
WHAT!?
If I had know there was free cake, I would've stayed a base taking horde monkey :old:
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Let them eat cake.
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Last night in LW i see rook bombers coming in at near outer space so I climb a C-Hog up to 30K.
Sure enough, here comes a set of lancs at 27K. I zoop in and kill the right eschelon lanc with a snapshot shot. In a nano-second (seemingly) he has BAILED. I get a proxy for kill #2, but the last one dissapears into air---gone.
Luckily I filmed it.
Welcome to Aces High!
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Its because you view the world around you differently than normal human beings, its called 'semp-a-vision' its a condition were your own inflated sense of being right all the time and having things all 'semp's' way actually causes you to hallucinate to a great extent. In fact even though I have typed this whole sentence out you will not be seeing everything I have typed. Someone affected with semp-a-vision would discard words that he wouldn't fit into his view of the world, leaving a pleasing result for the semp viewing it, so this paragraph viewed through the eyes of a semp would read...
"'Its normal 'semp's' great"
:rofl :rofl
not only is this funny as...well pretty damn funny...... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
and spot on also......
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I could care less about my score. But, I will not bail to avoid a fight. Yesterday I was almost out of ammo and had to get dinner cooking but an enemy was following me so I hung in there and let the fight happen, logging right after it was over.
To bail to avoid a fight is just a chicken crap way to play the game.
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Something like this?
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/fighetroutcome_zps3aebd511.jpg)
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Obviously peoples internet is getting better! :old:
oh and horde behavior mixed with BnZ tactics are leading to less death and more landings! :bolt:
If we had another late war arena I could get away from the lemming hordes! :joystick:
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Last night I was trying out a D11. I found it difficult to check my 6 in it with the views. Tosh came up behind me in a spit 8. I never saw him, and I suspect he knew I didn't see him and he shot what I think was a warning shot over me and flew past. We then engaged and he got one of my elevators and and a flap. I got a chance to escape and headed toward my base. I consider surviving a bad situation part of the game. But in this case I turned back and he got what turned out to be an easy kill, that was rightfully his anyway if it wasn't for his sportsmanship.
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The other night, I think Tuesday, we were heading to attack a base when all of a sudden there is a 15+K N1K. He flew very timidly, made a dive, and flew past everyone. It wasn't long after he made his dive, a friendly player enclosed on him. As soon as the friendly opened fire, the plane began to spiral to the ground and the icon disappeared. I could only laugh at the timidness that was shown, and laughed even harder when I heard the name. I don't think I have ever just bailed out of a plane to avoid being killed, and I don't understand that mentality of those that do. :headscratch:
NOTE: I'm not 100% sure if the player bailed, or if the friendly got one of those lucky 1 ping kills, but I am assuming the former.
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Obviously peoples internet is getting better! :old:
Obviously the reconnect feature is working :)
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This Cancer didn't exist before players could end sortie while in a chute. I wish they would disable <.ef> for thirty seconds after <enter enter enter>.
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If I bail it's because:
1. Someone already shot me down.
2. Something very important came up and there were no icons in range to fight (even just to give a kill to if it's so important it really just can't wait).
Other than that, I'll always try to get back to base - bingo, winchester, shot up, PW, whatever.
I don't get bomber-bailers (to avoid getting shot down by fighters), either (fighter-bailers, for that matter). I've been flying B-17s a lot this tour to see what's up. 20k + and you will never hardly see an enemy fighter take you on anywhere - even where the fight is (so all those guys posting they won't fly up to 20k to get bombers because it's a waste of time seems universal). 17k and you may get one. 15k and near any field with a fight and you'll get 2 or more (if they coordinate, good luck). 10kish or less and any enemy fighter in icon range will attack (at that point, if you ain't dropped you likely won't - concentrate on getting at least a kill or two). I had to fly the lower alts after a bit just to have a challenge. A buff jocky that's just out for score could potato it at 20k all day bombing towns without bailing.
Maybe it's that damned bailing accolade.
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Now I am not sure.
If I hit a red's plane with one single MG round and he bails I get the kill.. Correct?
If he is untouched and the red bails then a kill is only issued if a green guy is near the plane crash?
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If he is untouched and the red bails then a kill is only issued if a green guy is near the plane crash
To be exact: Near the plane the moment he bails
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Now I am not sure.
If I hit a red's plane with one single MG round and he bails I get the kill.. Correct?
If he is untouched and the red bails then a kill is only issued if a green guy is near the plane crash?
Just one projectile hit (yours) and the guy bails (at anytime without anyone else causing more damage to him) and you get a kill (both statistical and counting toward your name in lights).
No damage dealt and you are the closest to him when he bails (within a couple k or so) and you will get a 'proxie kill' (doesn't count toward statistics/points but still will count toward a 'name in lights landing' for that sortie).
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and you will get a 'proxie kill' (doesn't count toward statistics/points )
Proxy kills do count for stats, score and score points. You just don't get any perk points for it.
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Proxy kills do count for stats, score and score points. You just don't get any perk points for it.
Huh. Wasn't always like that, was it? And .... why?
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It seems like then a five minute hold in the tower after a bail might work. I know players bail sometimes to go get troops as an example. Might curtail that a bit. If you want a bail because of score that is your choice but you would still have the delay. Not perfect for-sure. Easier to code I would think than trying to deal with bails just to hack people off. Of course the code guys and gals are probably going a bit blurry eyed now with the new graphics engine in progress. I will take the new graphics over a bail fix.
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It seems like then a five minute hold in the tower after a bail might work.
A crash too? Either way it is not good, either because you have a 5 minute delay after any kind of death, or you can just auger to avoid the penalty.
Wiley.
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Now I am not sure.
If I hit a red's plane with one single MG round and he bails I get the kill.. Correct?
If he is untouched and the red bails then a kill is only issued if a green guy is near the plane crash?
Yeah but in both instances the doosh denies you something more important than a kill.
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Huh. Wasn't always like that, was it? And .... why?
At least since AHII (2004), but I suspect it had always been.
Oh, and in terms of score kill points, it gives you just 1 (one) single kill point (because they are actually functionally 'damage' points for the most part).
But for k/d, k/s and any other category it's just a regular kill (if applicable)
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Just think of it this way. You ended his flight. Whatever he was going to attack, whatever he was going to shoot at, he isn't now.
Mission accomplished. :banana:
So, you don't get the points. The important thing is, he is in the tower, and you are still flying. :airplane:
Yes, you are right. It takes the fun out of the fight. Go find someone who doesn't have yellow painted on the belly of his plane.
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Last night I was trying out a D11. I found it difficult to check my 6 in it with the views. Tosh came up behind me in a spit 8. I never saw him, and I suspect he knew I didn't see him and he shot what I think was a warning shot over me and flew past. We then engaged and he got one of my elevators and and a flap. I got a chance to escape and headed toward my base. I consider surviving a bad situation part of the game. But in this case I turned back and he got what turned out to be an easy kill, that was rightfully his anyway if it wasn't for his sportsmanship.
You are the best Ray! The game needs more stand up guys like you :salute
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Coming here complaining is just telling them its a good way to troll.
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It seems like then a five minute hold in the tower after a bail might work. I know players bail sometimes to go get troops as an example. Might curtail that a bit. If you want a bail because of score that is your choice but you would still have the delay. Not perfect for-sure. Easier to code I would think than trying to deal with bails just to hack people off. Of course the code guys and gals are probably going a bit blurry eyed now with the new graphics engine in progress. I will take the new graphics over a bail fix.
So your saying if I just took off from a base, 25ft off the ground, 2 sectors away form anyone and someone yells "NOE at XYZ base...I bail to help out and have to wait 5 minutes to up again....NO....NOPE......-10000000000
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So your saying if I just took off from a base, 25ft off the ground, 2 sectors away form anyone and someone yells "NOE at XYZ base...I bail to help out and have to wait 5 minutes to up again....NO....NOPE......-10000000000
Yap, that is the idea.
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I could care less about my score. But, I will not bail to avoid a fight. Yesterday I was almost out of ammo and had to get dinner cooking but an enemy was following me so I hung in there and let the fight happen, logging right after it was over.
To bail to avoid a fight is just a chicken crap way to play the game.
so did you win or lose????????????????????
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Last night I was trying out a D11. I found it difficult to check my 6 in it with the views. Tosh came up behind me in a spit 8. I never saw him, and I suspect he knew I didn't see him and he shot what I think was a warning shot over me and flew past. We then engaged and he got one of my elevators and and a flap. I got a chance to escape and headed toward my base. I consider surviving a bad situation part of the game. But in this case I turned back and he got what turned out to be an easy kill, that was rightfully his anyway if it wasn't for his sportsmanship.
if you turn your external engine sound up you can start hearing a plane engine at 1000 yds.
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if you turn your external engine sound up you can start hearing a plane engine at 1000 yds.
Good tip man. I'm going to try this tonight...
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if you turn your external engine sound up you can start hearing a plane engine at 1000 yds.
800
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Yap, that is the idea.
100% stupid idea
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Yap, that is the idea.
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/12/Gladiator_Thumb_Down_01.gif)
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(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/12/Gladiator_Thumb_Down_01.gif)
Great movie.
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<<=== Desmond Meridious Maximous
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Great movie.
Another great one:
(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsM/11572-2782.gif)
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Something like this?
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/fighetroutcome_zps3aebd511.jpg)
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Ah! Snails' graph is awesome, and very telling in a subtle way.
Deaths trending down and landing trending up. I think this shows a societal shift, it shows that folks are becoming more interested in "not losing" and less interested in "winning".
Winning requires a risk that just might culminate in "WINNING", but the risk is that you just might "LOSE"!! "I am a winner!!"
Not losing requires little to no risk and at least you'll never "LOSE" but you'll never "WIN" either!! "At least I didn't lose!"
Kind of like our foreign policy for going on 5 years now. Don't let it be said that leaders have no influence on the general population!! :aok
JUGgler
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i seen b29s bail when i got 2 k too close. he did it before he got to strats too. no clue why either, bc i was dead6, and way too far (2k) to get him.
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i seen b29s bail when i got 2 k too close. he did it before he got to strats too. no clue why either, bc i was dead6, and way too far (2k) to get him.
Doesn't make sense he still loses perks. :headscratch:
I lost 3 B-29s to System's 163 but I fought to the death. :furious We :salute and went on our way. :cheers:
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See Rule #14
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Something like this?
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/fighetroutcome_zps3aebd511.jpg)
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what's the x-axis ( obviously time), months? If so, I'd say the op was the victim of a less likely, but entirely possible, occurrence. I've seen it a few times, myself, but it is rare. I actually had an incident tonight in which I fought off an apparent total noob raid on one of those bases with tiny dars ( I look for these type of situations, although I enjoy the fur balls, too) . On the menu was a trio of 26's accompanied by a poorly flown 38l. I passed over the 38 about 3k above, rolled my g-14 over and dove to saddle up. He died in the ack before I could get to him so I zoom climbed and chased the 26s, who were co-alt, headed the wrong way ( they'd dropped but were headed deeper into knight territory). I began to set up my attack, managing my speed so the they couldn't run away and using the excess energy to get above them. I got to within 3k on the high 6 and "poof": silk and end sortie. I figured my odds, given I wasn't carrying gondies or the 30, at about 50/50 of being able to kill those 26s. It's not like I was packing 4x20 or anything. But, guess somebody didn't want to man guns...
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Ye gods. Seadog has been provoked into becoming unhinged. ;)
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Somebody referrenced geopolics and got the seniors all riled up. Way to go.
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Yar!
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what's the x-axis ( obviously time), months?
Tour numbers, beginning with tour 12 and ending with last tour, 168
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Tour numbers, beginning with tour 12 and ending with last tour, 168
Lusche, you are one extrapolating mofo!
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Lusche, you are one extrapolating mofo!
Extrapolating?
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That's what I fingered, each tour being a month... You didn't extrapolate jack, as far as I can see. These are all historical "actuals", as we call them in the auto pd world.
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Extrapolating?
I mean that as a compliment. Maybe it's the wrong word. I am from Alabama after all :aok
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I mean that as a compliment. Maybe it's the wrong word. I am from Alabama after all :aok
Oh, I thought this was referring to my chart in particular, which was not extrapolated at all :)
The chart I posted is based on the score sheets of all pilots in each tour which had at least one kill or one death. Which covers nothing less than all 'active pilots' in the LW/Old Main arena sans an exceedingly small minority (probably less than 1%). In total almost three quarter of a million scores.
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I mean that as a compliment. Maybe it's the wrong word. I am from Alabama after all :aok
Interpolating bud.
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Hmm...the only real cancer I'm seeing as of late are the constant complaint threads, usually of the SAME BLOODY THING. :bhead
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Interpolating bud.
Thanks....
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Hmm...the only real cancer I'm seeing as of late are the constant complaint threads, usually of the SAME BLOODY THING. :bhead
:aok .... and .... :aok :cheers:
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Thanks....
I think your choice of terms was more accurate.
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So, if the mean is 4.4% and the last five year's mean is 2.5%, what do you call that? Answer: below average... http://www.multpl.com/us-real-gdp-growth-rate
But, a more relevant question for the "cheerleader" abeam with faith in "the leadership": do you fly for the Alchemists?
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Huh. Wasn't always like that, was it? And .... why?
Yes, you ought to try the game sometime, I think you'd really like it. :D
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what's the x-axis ( obviously time), months? If so, I'd say the op was the victim of a less likely, but entirely possible, occurrence. I've seen it a few times, myself, but it is rare. I actually had an incident tonight in which I fought off an apparent total noob raid on one of those bases with tiny dars ( I look for these type of situations, although I enjoy the fur balls, too) . On the menu was a trio of 26's accompanied by a poorly flown 38l. I passed over the 38 about 3k above, rolled my g-14 over and dove to saddle up. He died in the ack before I could get to him so I zoom climbed and chased the 26s, who were co-alt, headed the wrong way ( they'd dropped but were headed deeper into knight territory). I began to set up my attack, managing my speed so the they couldn't run away and using the excess energy to get above them. I got to within 3k on the high 6 and "poof": silk and end sortie. I figured my odds, given I wasn't carrying gondies or the 30, at about 50/50 of being able to kill those 26s. It's not like I was packing 4x20 or anything. But, guess somebody didn't want to man guns...
wrong quote
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Connecting people bailing their planes in AH with the current administrations' foreign policy sounds like a good segment for FOX news. "Obama made me bail my cartoon B-29's" :rofl
I'll take 5 years of steady economic recovery and not wiping out 4k+ of our servicemen and maiming thousands more by looking for Al Qaeda and made up WMDs in Iraq any day. That was a real good risk huh? I see your point, can't LOSE if you don't try... Bin Ladin did just fine and didn't North Korea get nukes on that watch too...Oops. Maybe a little risk where it counted might have been in order.
Better stick to flying cartoon P-47s instead of political analogies if you think the 43rd president made anything less than disastrous foreign policy and the last 5 years are not a vast improvement.
How does this turd baller full of crap political drivel get by???
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How does this turd baller full of crap political drivel get by???
My question exactly - and exactly why I posted my rather antiseptic graph showing what can only be considered the bottom-line metric for any Presidency (and at which this one has performed in sub-par fashion, at best). Did you note my question?
I figure "the cheerleader" must be with the Alchemists.
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I think your choice of terms was more accurate.
Extrapolation would be making forecasts or predictions beyond the confines of the data set.
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Last night I got to shoot a chute, it was gratifying.
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Yes, you ought to try the game sometime, I think you'd really like it. :D
Bet I would. I could benefit from your experience. :D
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Last night I got to shoot a chute, it was gratifying.
You ACM wizzkid you. Was he flailing like an ape throwing poo or did he hold nice and still for you?
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Different thread...
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,360761.0.html
The Cancer continues to spread... :noid
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,360761.0.html
The Cancer continues to spread... :noid
I think you missed the bit about using your brain before replying, which you didn't even have the guts to do in the right thread.
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I think you missed the bit about using your brain before replying, which you didn't even have the guts to do in the right thread.
So you went ahead and started a thread, to which there are quite a few of them about each of the issues you have outlined, instead of posting in those threads. Why post in your thread when I've already mentioned the problem here? My statement stands.
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If Lusche had access to the stats, I bet he could show a graph comparing the active player population of the game arenas to the active player population who take part in the AH forums on a full time basis. I venture the forum population will turn out to be less than 5% of the total active arena population.
If Hitech and Co. are using these forums as passive advertisement, it's not a very cosmopolitan view of the game's demographics being illustrated. But, a rather slanted one sided vision of the game by a small minority who are probably this vocal in the forums of all the other MMO they complain over similar dissatisfactions just as vociferously. Game forums are populated with the aggrieved, who are waiting for the emotional rush from that occasional out of control wildfire of grievances which runs unchecked for pages beyond belief with no MODing by management.
What is your goal with all of this negativity?
To drive away existing customers by painting a picture of the game as a cesspit of lame worthless play? Act out your personal grievances against Hitech under the cover of a forum grievance "hoard"? Something like: He wouldn't dare touch any of you as part of a coalition of like minded customers airing an impromptu "redress petition" of "obvious" failings to his game. Are you collectively trying to tell new customers to go elsewhere to get even with HTC for not creating ways to address what aggravates you about all those worthless "Zerg" populating "your game"?
What would a marriage counselor say by this point, with so many irreconcilable negatives identified by one member of the matrimonial partnership? If you gents are this angry at HTC, revenge is not any way to reconcile a relationship.
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Buster, I've got no truck with the op. I just find him a bit crabby on this matter. I've seen plenty of people who just seem to like to be that way. You could just as easily do a lot of extrapolation about their internal wiring, based on this, as you've done about their relationship to HT. I'm not going to state the nature f the extrapolations I've made, mainly because I don't want to take a dump in anyone's cornflakes. I'm just saying: I think you're neglecting the hard-wired nature of the beast, if you follow.
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I'm just saying: I think you're neglecting the hard-wired nature of the beast, if you follow.
The hardwired once in deep, well they are hardwired for their fix. Negativity becomes it's own reason, even for men of normal good will to resist joining in. The hardwired cannot be asked, "why are you being negative?". Thankfully they are not the majority in our forum population. But, the others can be asked to justify their negative behavior.
Are you taking part or creating posts like this to drive away customers because you are unhappy with Hitech and Co.?
The men of goodwill in the face of this question are going to consider the content. And respond no, returning to being men of goodwill.
Hitech and Co. have always kept good faith with us along with allowing an unprecedented amount of freedom in our conduct in the MA. To find fault in Hitech and Co. because of the actions of others with this recent uptick in posts decrying thir use of that freedom. Seems to me is an indictment on the assessment about freedom not being what many have a stomach for.
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Are you taking part or creating posts like this to drive away customers because you are unhappy with Hitech and Co.?
I know this is probably a rhetorical question, but, for my own part, I take part because I like feedback on the shared experience. Lusche refuted the OP's assertion neatly with his data - which I acknowledged. My own take: even this unnecessary crabbing adds to the sport. Consider, for example, the other parallel thread going on this same matter. I just learned of an ACM or two from it - and all because one guy was complaining about the use of a panicky-noob style negative g maneuver.
I mean: even if the guy whines about what amounts to an historical improbability, and then screams like some jumped-up Chicken Little about how the sky is falling as a result, I'm perfectly comfortable with hearing that, less so with any impulse to silence the fool. Sometimes, my opinion, it's better to let them speak, thus "removing all doubt", to recall an adage.
Otherwise, agreed, to transfer dissatisfaction with HiTech into some thread complaint is scurrilous. I just doubt that any such level of conscious thought went into the crabbing in question. Keep fighting the good fight - this kind of stuff is persistent.
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I think those folks are playing MS Flight Simulator.
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I think those folks are playing MS Flight Simulator.
Speaking of things that suck...
So, my brother in law is kind of a fan of that one. Here's how it works:
<graphics screen, words, mission assignment>
<graphics screen, map>
<graphics screen, stock footage that looks old-timey fighter pilot, music>
gray cloudy sky, speeding by your cockpit
there's a 109! Hit the trigger...
3 kills.
Make some general "flight-type" stick motions towards "base" Hooray, a heroes landing!!!
<graphics screen, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE ONE OF THE PROUD FEW!>
Blue Whale doesn't begin to describe how much...