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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Cremator on May 29, 2014, 12:30:04 PM
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Ive found that sometimes people share more in common if they share the same job. I am, as my name states, a cremationist. I was at one time the youngest certified in the United States. I did 10 years in law enforcement before leaving to better my personal life and to run our family business, the crematorium. I have spent time in agricultural aviation and hope to return one day soon. I also guide duck hunts here in the great state of Arkansas.
What do you do?
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ford parts dept. manager
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parasite
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Jack of all trades, master of none :noid
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Involuntary Domestic Engineer
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I currently sit and stare at a blank wall five days a week, for the foreseeable future, but my paycheck says I'm an Ensign in the Navy with orders to flight school... but seriously, they're paying four of us to literally just sit here doing nothing...
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Accountant. Director of an accounting firm and director of a Trust company.
Not a typical bean counter though. I do all sorts of stuff. Some days I will get to work and find out I am involved in buying an airplane, selling a castle, liquidating a billion dollar entity etc etc. Never a dull moment.
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Resident Manager of a 58 unit apartment community...Certified Pool Operator handling 2 pools, Hvac certified with Universal Refrigerant license: maintenance and installs, I do carpentry, tile, electrical and plumbing. On call 7/24/52. Wish I had help.
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Professional Student
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Yada yada yada...something in the political world and every time I draw upon my two decades plus of experience Skuzzy either deletes my post or bans me for a couple weeks. I dare not say what I do other than this in order to avoid being banned. Sheesh!
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Parts & Service Manager for a commercial kitchen equipment distributor.
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I fly in a flashy bright red outfit and I save lives. I'm Superman! Actually I wished I was Batman but I'm just an EMS pilot :joystick:
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Part time executioner. Part time punching bag. Full time babysitter.
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I sit in a cubicle and write software for the 2000 switch.
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Project manager at some gaming company.
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Locomotive mechanic/pipefitter/welder and part time mechanic at small garage. I stay tired and busy. :frown:
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Part time executioner. Part time punching bag. Full time babysitter.
:rofl :rofl :cheers:
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I fly in a flashy bright red outfit and I save lives. I'm Superman! Actually I wished I was Batman but I'm just an EMS pilot :joystick:
Right on! :salute Awesome career choice!
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I do a Job others attempt to do for less. Then they call me to sort out the mess they make. Not a Doctor but people are always asking me questions at parties. At my work my employer houses thousands of dollars worth of my personal property. Wish I could make the money an athlete does hitting 33% accuracy, I must hit 100%.
:salute
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Part time executioner. Part time punching bag. Full time babysitter.
:rofl
As for me; City Bus Driver. I get to see all sorts of fun stuff at work, especially when stupid is out in force that day. Though nearly killed 2 people yesterday when they pulled out in front of my 31 ton bus. BOTH where on their cells. :bhead Speed Limit 45 MPH and a Hospital a block away, wouldn't get to you in time morons! :furious
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I do a Job others attempt to do for less. Then they call me to sort out the mess they make. Not a Doctor but people are always asking me questions at parties. At my work my employer houses thousands of dollars worth of my personal property. Wish I could make the money an athlete does hitting 33% accuracy, I must hit 100%.
:salute
Ive never been good with riddles. I get that your what folks refer to as "calling in the big gun?" But whats it?
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I do a Job others attempt to do for less. Then they call me to sort out the mess they make. Not a Doctor but people are always asking me questions at parties. At my work my employer houses thousands of dollars worth of my personal property. Wish I could make the money an athlete does hitting 33% accuracy, I must hit 100%.
:salute
You work from home for your wife who sells you as a male potato?
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I was a service technician on industrial machinery (Alfa-Laval centrifuges) for the last 10 years but I was working for a small family company and since I wasn't in the family I was pretty much at a dead end. I left in the same position I started in 10 years earlier. I was making decent money but the excessive travel and lack of benefits (retirement) made me realize I was just wasting my time. Luckily my wife has been moving up the corporate ladder at her work at an amazing pace. She stared as an entry level analyst 8years ago and she is now a manager of managers and is currently being groomed to take her boss's job (a senior management position) by years end. She is making enough that I am now a stay at home dad while going to school full time to get my A.S. in Computer Programming as well as a CCC (college credit certificate) in Automation. I will have my A.S. next spring and will transfer to a 4 year university. I don't know if I am going to pursue a B.S. in programming or get a B.S./B.A. in a different field to open up potential career paths. Ideally we would like to move to Colorado where I can hopefully land a job at Intel or HP in Fort Collins.
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Ive never been good with riddles. I get that your what folks refer to as "calling in the big gun?" But whats it?
I work as a Master Technician for a Truck Dealer. Specializing in Commercial Trucks and Diesel Engines. I'd say much of the work is technical these days as cars and trucks have multiple computers communicating on several different types networks.
Yes Dealers are more expensive than what you find in a private shop but you have issues where the customer spends a lot of money on parts changers and then finds out at the Dealer what the real issue is.
In a way I have to be good with riddles. :D
You work from home for your wife who sells you as a male potato?
I'm not a Potato. :old: But I do have a few spuds running around. :rofl
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Involuntary Domestic Engineer
Von tell the truth,you're begining to enjoy being a kept man! We all heard you singing "Just a gigalo" the last FSO!
Join the club,now Lusche,You and I can laugh at all the smucks that actually have to go to work!
I've been retarded....errr retired for 20 some odd years now,prior to that I occassionally made money as a subcontractor,I specialized in kitchens.However these days I leave the kitchen work to my wife.....man lifes good!
:salute
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Part time executioner. Part time punching bag. Full time babysitter.
:lol :lol :lol
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Accountant, CPA. Passed that rascal at the tender age of 57. Currently work as a Cost Accountant. One of the most challenging accounting jobs I have ever had.
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Student, but thinking long and hard about enlisting if I can finish school on the GI Bill.
See the world (or a gray wall :old:), serve my country, and finish school with only $27k in debt :banana:.
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Builder in the USN's Seabees. Part time Convoy security element gunner.
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anything for money
mostly putting up fences to keep all the nice people away from the other nice people's gardens.
amateur bowyer, fletcher, blacksmith and general wood craftsman.
personally I'd like to be an international drug smuggler but it's not an easy vocation to stay alive in
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I fly around to different places and collect hotel keys and eat in lots of restaurants.
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My fess ion is definitely an amateur. Unemplyoyed after 20 years as a caregiver.
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Partner in small Philadelphia law firm.
- oldman
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QA/QC manager, environmental monitoring equipment company.
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parasite
ROFL! The shoe is on the other foot! You're a daddy!
:salute
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ROFL! The shoe is on the other foot! You're a daddy!
:salute
That's almost no work... yet. ;)
That's going to change in a few months though :uhoh
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Retired Computer Systems Architect.
I still do some consulting, but only when I need to upgrade the gaming rig. :devil
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I currently sit and stare at a blank wall five days a week, for the foreseeable future, but my paycheck says I'm an Ensign in the Navy with orders to flight school... but seriously, they're paying four of us to literally just sit here doing nothing...
Then you're missing the point... 2 of my students at ENJJPT sat at Nellis for a year, so they started writing. 3 or 4 papers got published in various classified journals coming out of Maxwell AFB or the Weapons School.
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Retired Jig & Fixture builder (now called a Toolmaker) after 30.5 years with the Boeing Company.
For Lusche and all of the new parents out there, when my son was born, I spent copious hours trying to build a diaper changing tool, but nothing worked better than bare hands and a warm damp cloth and lots of love. Until you have children, you really don't know what life is all about. ;-)
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30yrs Professional Driver / Wildland Firefighter Equipment Operator.
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IT Support Technician
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IT Support Technician
I work for one of them, to become one down the road. :aok
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25 years working with stuff you can't see, taste, or feel until its too late. I spend many days at altitude and others buried in mud. Doing my type of job means that all of you get to spend time posting on this message board. There are times where I am equally loved and despised by the general public. At this point in time, my job is a direct influence on many facets of life for us all.
I'm not a hero by any means, but I am lucky enough to be called such now and then.
What am I?
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My fess ion is definitely an amateur. Unemplyoyed after 20 years as a caregiver.
Sorry to hear of your loss,especially in this thread!
:angel:
:salute
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25 years working with stuff you can't see, taste, or feel until its too late. I spend many days at altitude and others buried in mud. Doing my type of job means that all of you get to spend time posting on this message board. There are times where I am equally loved and despised by the general public. At this point in time, my job is a direct influence on many facets of life for us all.
I'm not a hero by any means, but I am lucky enough to be called such now and then.
What am I?
lineman/electrician
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well my Job is a blessing and a curse....
I create art for a living...the only living art....and have done so since 1988
but that means dealing with people and what they consider "art" :rolleyes:
you would be surprised :rofl
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25 years working with stuff you can't see, taste, or feel until its too late. I spend many days at altitude and others buried in mud. Doing my type of job means that all of you get to spend time posting on this message board. There are times where I am equally loved and despised by the general public. At this point in time, my job is a direct influence on many facets of life for us all.
I'm not a hero by any means, but I am lucky enough to be called such now and then.
What am I?
Branch of the Military?
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SilverZ06 nailed it........lineman
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SilverZ06 nailed it........lineman
Aha. Very nicely worded :aok
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britney spear's physical trainer lol..
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Auto Tech for Ford, 29 years and counting
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Full time A&P mechanic.
Trying to get back into doing some photography part-time.
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Jack of all trades, master of none :noid
Are you missing an "f"? Kidding, Mr. R...
Me? The most hated man in the Ford Motor Company... The Global Target Setting Subject Matter Expert. You could call me a weasel, but it's more specific: ferret. As Ink noted, there is a chance that I'll play along, just to get you to spill.
I'm from corporate. I'm here to, uh, help.
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Machinist/Welder/Mechanic. Amateur historian looking for acceptance to graduate school.
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I herd cats by heading up a builders hardware department in a store very similar to what you guys call Home Depot except where HD budgets for killing five people a year we budget for zero deaths.
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Graduated College/Tech School in January of this year for HVACR. My father owns a business he created a few years ago. We fix anything and everything you see inside of any restaurant. Electric work as well. I'm only 19 handling a lot of our business paperwork. (Invoices, Inventory, Payoll soon.) I'd say I'm doing well so far being as young as I am. The only thing I wish I had was my fathers will to work. I'm not one to skip work or anything but you can tell work is all he has ever known.
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Are you missing an "f"? Kidding, Mr. R...
Me? The most hated man in the Ford Motor Company... The Global Target Setting Subject Matter Expert. You could call me a weasel, but it's more specific: ferret. As Ink noted, there is a chance that I'll play along, just to get you to spill.
I'm from corporate. I'm here to, uh, help.
Ok short story what is it that you do?
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read between the lines man :devil
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After 15 years in the RAF I then went into civilian air cargo operations. When I moved to the USA I was in data input for 14 years but decided I need to spend more time with my wife so did a complete change, I went into retail. I'm now the (old) blue shirted guy at our local Best Buy.
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Service coordinator for a company that supplies and services scanning equipment for forensic and border control establishments :)
We have equipment that is classified :rofl
IAM awesome as well :)
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Ex-army. Now I run a small media design and marketing company.
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artist/musician. i stay broke, but the dream is well worth it. i do pencil portraits, paint and play rock n roll and metal. i hope one day that people will see that art and music are neccesary for a healthy soul and a better society. i hope that my art will help people see beyond the material. i wish people in our modern world seen art and music as a good career choice, but today, only the material and money matter. being happy doesnt come in to play if it doesnt make gobs of money.
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Professional Student
my fav. job.
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Customer Service Representative for local electrical co-op.
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artist/musician. i stay broke, but the dream is well worth it. i do pencil portraits, paint and play rock n roll and metal. i hope one day that people will see that art and music are neccesary for a healthy soul and a better society. i hope that my art will help people see beyond the material. i wish people in our modern world seen art and music as a good career choice, but today, only the material and money matter. being happy doesnt come in to play if it doesnt make gobs of money.
Good for you. The arts bring out the best in us, or, as Lincoln said, "the better Angels". My wife and I go to a lot of art shows, theater, occasional live music, movies, and she is an artist herself and loves to paint and create jewelry. For awhile I was a videomaker and if I had to do it over again I'd have gone into production of some kind. Probably editing. We have world class museums in Chicago that we love wondering thru.
We also have worse violence then many 3rd world countries and Ive been a Policeman in it for 3 decades. As a kid I thought it would be fulfilling work but the truth is it isnt while the arts have always been. Dont ever give up your dream. We gave my kid the gift of music and he still plays piano even tho he is in USAF right now. We try to support the smaller music and acting venues and enjoy the energy brought to the stage by youngsters just starting out with their dream.
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Ok short story what is it that you do?
Short story: I develop the corporate pd process and supporting software tools for vehicle ( with support for unit ) programs - with my area of focus being ps-psc. I also go out and teach the engineering and finance staff how to follow that process and use those tools. It's a niche role but my eng- biz background makes me uniquely suited. The weasel part: process almost always involves the difficult art of manipulating behavior. This is the dark side.
I see you too sail under the blue oval.
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Full time A&P mechanic.
Where?
- oldman
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Full time computer nerd, part time musician and enjoying life.
Did 19 years in the Royal Navy, went to IBM (actually got headhunted), then emigrated to the USA, where I now work for MCCS (Marine Corps Community Service) as a system/network administrator. Use a lot of cutting edge equipment to fulfil my role, enjoy doing so and will probably retire via this job.
Wurz
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I'm a self employed PC tech mainly for households.
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Flowhand
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Ah, I have a riddle.
My work involves math and numbers and the worse I do for my employer, the more money I make.
What do I do?
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Ah, I have a riddle.
My work involves math and numbers and the worse I do for my employer, the more money I make.
What do I do?
Accountant?
Electrical Engineer?
Scam artist? :D
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Ah, I have a riddle.
My work involves math and numbers and the worse I do for my employer, the more money I make.
What do I do?
I know I know!!
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Field Artillery. Hooah
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Ah, I have a riddle.
My work involves math and numbers and the worse I do for my employer, the more money I make.
What do I do?
Broker who is shorting the picks you make for your employer :) ...or you are hedging stuff for your employer?
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I spend my days filling holes with hot rod...... unfortunately im not a pornstar but a welder :(
Mostly do mig work but can also use stick and old school gas when i need to :)
EatG
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I know I know!!
Quiet you! No cheating from anyone I've told.
Accountant?
Electrical Engineer?
Scam artist? :D
Broker who is shorting the picks you make for your employer :) ...or you are hedging stuff for your employer?
Nope, think entertainment industry.
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Ah, I have a riddle.
My work involves math and numbers and the worse I do for my employer, the more money I make.
What do I do?
GAO? ;)
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LOL no.
One more clue. I work for the benefit of an ethnic minority.
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No idea at all.
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I started out as a USAF recruit and quickly assigned as a munitions system specialist; known as an Ammo troop in the AF.
After watching the entire Breaking Bad series, I have decided to sell methamphetamine. Appears there is good money in this.
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I am a noob CNC metalworking mill and lathe operator. Also have a "used" pilot`s CPL(A) rating in my pocket, but it will stay there.
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Computer geek.
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No idea at all.
I am a blackjack dealer at an indian casino. The more of my employer's money people are winning at my table, the better my tips.
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I fly in a flashy bright red outfit and I save lives. I'm Superman! Actually I wished I was Batman but I'm just an EMS pilot :joystick:
:salute
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Part time executioner. Part time punching bag. Full time babysitter.
:salute
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I am an entrepreneur. Past companies have been in various fields (finance, patent licensing, software, medical diagnostics, space services, and biotechnology). My current one is a biotechnology company operating in the fields of synthetic biology and targeted DNA sequencing.
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I am a blackjack dealer at an indian casino. The more of my employer's money people are winning at my table, the better my tips.
:aok
I went to Casinorama in Orilla Ontario a few years back. A kind dealer showed me how to play 3 card poker. Broke even on the weekend gambling but had a really nice room.
Went to Vegas in March of this year playing in a golf tournament, didn't bet a dollar.
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.918"
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I've always had trouble deciding what I wanted to do when I grew up. At this point I have just decided to not grow up, period. :D
What I have done so far though.....
Police Officer, ret disabled
Army Armor Officer, Ltc ret
Elementary school teacher, fled after 4 years, being shot at was safer. :bhead :O
A&P working on small aircraft, medium twins on down to C-150's and light helo's.
Retired to full time RVing for the last 10 years. Just cruising around the country seeing the sights and kicking back following the good weather. Spoiling grandkids as well. :old: :neener:
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Ah, I have a riddle.
My work involves math and numbers and the worse I do for my employer, the more money I make.
What do I do?
IRS agent?
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Administration, Front of House and Assistant to the Manager. Responsible for Social Media, preparation of classrooms and areas for public and private functions. The production of posters and leaflets for promoting; The history of the House, classes, and public events. Redesigned the House logo, invoices, volunteer agreement, letter head, compliment slip, and public notices. Organised a Boston WW2 commemoration event. Telephone queries and general administrative tasks. Not much of a "profession" but it'll do.
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unskilled laborer.
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Yankee Air Pirate
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Computer stuff in an IT shop. If you happen to stand close to some piece of gear longer than a few minutes you will be considered the expert.
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IRS agent?
public employee ... unionized, is my guess, though I'll have to think about the riddle a bit more.
Never mind... just saw it. Good one, Jimson.
REmind me to play at your table some time. Where is your casino?
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I am now going into my 4th year as a middle school teacher
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I am now going into my 4th year as a middle school teacher
So, how would you react if some of your students left a fake dog crap on your desk? We did that in Middle school and the teacher was in tears. She thought it was real, you see, and picked it up with a Kleenex.
LAter, the Vice came in and talked to us all. The teacher retired soon after. She was a sad old biddy and could no longer function under the stress to which we'd subject her. I didn't have the heart to tell her of the horrors we'd've visited on her had our hearts been in the game. I felt she'd be even more sad if she knew that we'd checked swing with her, as opposed to really hammering her all horrorshow, as was our bent.
You've got to be fairly tough to function in such a field. Kids are "Lord of the Flies" scenarios waiting to happen... or, at least some kids are. I was a lot more Jack than Ralph, myself, and, as you can tell form above, idolized Alex DeLArge as a youth, before growing up to be all edjimicated and proper-like (which took a hard knock or two more than a hard knock).
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Lab and fabrication shop manager for a university's engineering capstone course. some of the stuff these student teams prototype is really incredible and it is always satisfying to see something first conceived of in this facility hit store shelves or be implemented by the company who sponsored the project.
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On Air Radio Personality 33 years, ran a casino for 3 years, now disabled and retired.
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I am a burner at a steel mill plant. I cut slabs in half.
semp
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IRS agent?
A lawyer.
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:aok
I went to Casinorama in Orilla Ontario a few years back. A kind dealer showed me how to play 3 card poker. Broke even on the weekend gambling but had a really nice room.
Went to Vegas in March of this year playing in a golf tournament, didn't bet a dollar.
My sister worked at Casinorama when it first opened up,we both attended high school in Orillia!....... Freaking small world!
:salute
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just another OTR truck driver who's usually hauling Haz-Mat thru at town near you....... :devil
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I work in the maintenance department at a fleet wholesale store. Generally fix crap such as shelves and lights and whatnot. On occasion though i'll have to go clean the bathrooms or maybe bring in carts.
Easy job and good pay. My future profession will be an auto mechanic hopefully.
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20 years in mfg making formation lights for military and other commercial and business aircraft lighting. Last 10 years as a supervisor of the production team of about 80 and this month moved into the design engineering team to play with autocad and solidworks and really get down to work improving and creatng the documents that drive production and the products we make. :aok
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I sculpt wax blanks for molding latex and silicone marital aids.
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I sculpt wax blanks for molding latex and silicone marital aids.
I actually modeled for one of those - the one they called "The Intrusive MegaDestroyer"... It never went to market because of liability concerns.
That hot wax was a little painful.
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20 years in mfg making formation lights for military and other commercial and business aircraft lighting. Last 10 years as a supervisor of the production team of about 80 and this month moved into the design engineering team to play with autocad and solidworks and really get down to work improving and creatng the documents that drive production and the products we make. :aok
So its your fault the dang things delaminate and quit working after a few years and shouldn't be turned on during the day? :)
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I actually modeled for one of those - the one they called "The Intrusive MegaDestroyer"... It never went to market because of liability concerns.
That hot wax was a little painful.
What a coincidence, I was the hand model for a rubber shocker.
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:)
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I'm a fluffer at lesbian film company. Oh wait, you didn't say 'dream jobs'.
I am self employed implementing electronic health records for health care providers/facilities. I'm also the reason that your healthcare insurance and deductibles are so damn high.
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I am an entrepreneur. Past companies have been in various fields (finance, patent licensing, software, medical diagnostics, space services, and biotechnology). My current one is a biotechnology company operating in the fields of synthetic biology and targeted DNA sequencing.
NOW that. That is interesting!
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See Rules #2, #4
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Assistant operator. I make corragated fiberboard.or cardboard for the rest of you. 8 hours a day.
Boomhaur
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See Rules #2, #4
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Short story: I develop the corporate pd process and supporting software tools for vehicle ( with support for unit ) programs - with my area of focus being ps-psc. I also go out and teach the engineering and finance staff how to follow that process and use those tools. It's a niche role but my eng- biz background makes me uniquely suited. The weasel part: process almost always involves the difficult art of manipulating behavior. This is the dark side.
I see you too sail under the blue oval.
More like sinking under it over the last few years, the SLTS guys have turned into bean counters....does not make for healthy paycheck these days.
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What a coincidence, I was the hand model for a rubber shocker.
The Fist of Fury model?
ack-ack
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Was a chef for twelve years then a Shipping manager for a printing company for another twelve. Now - Disabled and mean as he$% about it .
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Assistant operator. I make corragated fiberboard.or cardboard for the rest of you. 8 hours a day.
Boomhaur
Do you work at an actual mill or is the paper delivered to you from the mill?
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More like sinking under it over the last few years, the SLTS guys have turned into bean counters....does not make for healthy paycheck these days.
SLTS? I know about a bazillion internal acronyms ( a power train director looked at me in a meeting recently, sighed heavily, and said, "could you please slow down and stop using so many acronyms?") but have never heard that one.
Anything "ts" I usually think of as technical specialist...
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On Air Radio Personality 33 years, ran a casino for 3 years, now disabled and retired.
Oooops, forgot. Customer service trainer and syllabus author & trainer for a $16.6M business....grew under that training to a $1.6B business.
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Oooops, forgot. Customer service trainer and syllabus author & trainer for a $16.6M business....grew under that training to a $1.6B business.
You must be really smart.
- oldman
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Inventory/purchasing manager for a GM dealership.
There's quite a few car dogs here... :aok
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Structures Development Test Technician for a space company. The short story: I get paid to test, qualify, and break rocket parts.
Side note, my company just had a very recent unveiling....
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civillain world hvac/r tech with 4 years exp. thats heating ventilation air conditioning refrigeration was makin great money but for some reason or another i i joined up now im just one month away from being a technical controller
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After various admin jobs spanning over 40 years - apart from 5 years childcare looking after our son in between - I am now Retired. :D The last 27 years I worked as an administrator in Adult Social Care. :)
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You must be really smart.
- oldman
It's the beard that does it
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Some very interesting professions here. Some I've definitely never heard of.
I'm chief pilot of a skydive operation for the last five years and part time stay at home Dad. This year it's reversed and I'm very much full time Dad and part time pilot. The operation moved to a new dropzone which is just too far to commute regularly. I like to think of flying as a paid hobby now!
Some people think I've got two of the best jobs in the world. Bringing up my two sons and flying planes.
I suppose I do really.
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MTB mechanic. It's becoming quite a big sport in Spain.
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Spent the first few years working as a plant electrician in a paper converting factory. Switched over the a Vending machine tech when a co-working mentioned a local company needed some help. I figured I could break into a vending machine easy enough so fixing them shouldn't be too hard :neener:
Did that for 30 years working on everything from Pinballs to coffee machines and anything in between. Company split and I went with the "franchising group". They would build a route, I'd add software and hardware to the machines so they could call in each night on a cell call and download reports to be used and monitored at the offices. The money was great but the company didn't last and folded after a couple years.
Went to work for a Parking Controls company to build, install and maintain parking equipment. Ticket machines, paystations, operator window equipment, gates and so on. After 15 months my old vending company got bought out and is under new management and was looking for a tech. My name kept coming up and lets say they made me an offer I couldn't refuse :D
So starting Monday I'm back where I started 35 years ago.
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Structures Development Test Technician for a space company. The short story: I get paid to test, qualify, and break rocket parts.
Side note, my company just had a very recent unveiling....
Virgin galactic, perhaps? Btw, I can't wait to try the Virgin sky lounges. The new virgin/ delta relationship helps us weary Ford travelers to some extent. My Director said the virgin sky lounge at Heathrow was a good deal nicer than the Delta one - and the delta one ain't bad.
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Some people think I've got two of the best jobs in the world. Bringing up my two sons and flying planes.
I suppose I do really.
:aok
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Structures Development Test Technician for a space company. The short story: I get paid to test, qualify, and break rocket parts.
Side note, my company just had a very recent unveiling....
SpaceX?
Regardless of which place you are at, I give it a :aok. I'm a member of the Space Frontier Foundation.
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SpaceX?
Regardless of which place you are at, I give it a :aok. I'm a member of the Space Frontier Foundation.
You are correct Sir. Yes it's quite fantastic at the speed we are developing stuff. It's quite exciting!
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I'm in the business of premeditated murder against the enemies of the United States.
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Junky, not murder, just retiring enemies of the US. Or if you will, simply pest rewmoval. :aok
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I'm in the business of premeditated murder against the enemies of the United States.
Private Griff: "I can't murder anybody."
Sergeant Possum: "We don't murder; we kill."
Private Griff: "It's the same thing."
Sergeant Possum: "The hell it is, Griff. You don't murder animals; you kill 'em."
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You must be really smart.
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Not really. Our broadcasting company back in the early '90s had extensive training on "Service/Quality", measures that can be adapted to most any business--especially businesses dependant on highly active marketing strategies, especially with customer service satisfaction, and teaching and upholding the ideals that the customer satisfaction also extends to respect of co-workers. Plan so that nothing falls through the cracks and in case something does -- everyone from the most entry level person to the CEO picks up the slack and makes it right 100% --and ASAP. It works.
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I'm surprised at how many members have had really long term careers/jobs, many over 20 years. That was my plan, but it didn't work out, the reverse did.
- started out as a piper in a military drill band that toured all over the world, while working part time at a range and did this after HS and while attending college for a few years
- Enroute Air Traffic Controller trainee for Transport Canada when I turned 19, did that for several years
- air quality technologist in the oil and gas field in Western/Northern Canada
- content editor for a gaming website
- Worked for Sig Sauer, as an armorer and pistol/shooting instructor for SigArms Academy
- Worked for a couple of private military companies as a contractor/PSD and instructor
- now been on disability for almost 4 years, just turned 40, and would love to be able to add to the list again someday
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I'm surprised at how many members have had really long term careers/jobs, many over 20 years. That was my plan, but it didn't work out, the reverse did.
- started out as a piper in a military drill band that toured all over the world, while working part time at a range and did this after HS and while attending college for a few years
- Enroute Air Traffic Controller trainee for Transport Canada when I turned 19, did that for several years
- air quality technologist in the oil and gas field in Western/Northern Canada
- content editor for a gaming website
- Worked for Sig Sauer, as an armorer and pistol/shooting instructor for SigArms Academy
- Worked for a couple of private military companies as a contractor/PSD and instructor
- now been on disability for almost 4 years, just turned 40, and would love to be able to add to the list again someday
That's quite an eclectic list! That's pretty awesome! Makes you a well rounded and accomplished individual.
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I'm surprised at how many members have had really long term careers/jobs, many over 20 years. That was my plan, but it didn't work out, the reverse did.
- started out as a piper in a military drill band that toured all over the world, while working part time at a range and did this after HS and while attending college for a few years
Have a Co worker that's has been at the plant I work at. For 43 years. He started when he was 18 or 19 from what I herd.
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My job's average is around 15 years. I myself have been a City Bus Driver for 7 years. I can't complain, truth be told. I get to do something I really enjoy doing, driving. On top of that, I get fairly okay pay with decent benefits. I likely meet more people in a day than a few of you do in a month. :)
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Have a Co worker that's has been at the plant I work at. For 43 years. He started when he was 18 or 19 from what I herd.
we have a guy at our mill that started working there in 1957.
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You are correct Sir. Yes it's quite fantastic at the speed we are developing stuff. It's quite exciting!
I need a job near the end of next year when my military retirement rolls around. You guys need an ex-fighter pilot with lots of primary flight instructor and MQ-9 time who is also a computer geek (comp sci program in college 20-ish yrs ago)?
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Oh crap. That's my whole resume, in one run-on sentence. I'm never gonna find a job.
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So, how would you react if some of your students left a fake dog crap on your desk? We did that in Middle school and the teacher was in tears. She thought it was real, you see, and picked it up with a Kleenex.
LAter, the Vice came in and talked to us all. The teacher retired soon after. She was a sad old biddy and could no longer function under the stress to which we'd subject her. I didn't have the heart to tell her of the horrors we'd've visited on her had our hearts been in the game. I felt she'd be even more sad if she knew that we'd checked swing with her, as opposed to really hammering her all horrorshow, as was our bent.
You've got to be fairly tough to function in such a field. Kids are "Lord of the Flies" scenarios waiting to happen... or, at least some kids are. I was a lot more Jack than Ralph, myself, and, as you can tell form above, idolized Alex DeLArge as a youth, before growing up to be all edjimicated and proper-like (which took a hard knock or two more than a hard knock).
What fun you must have had at the poor ladies expense. Please furnish us with details of how you have made other people's careers a living nightmare.
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Operations, Sydney KFS Airport
Tronsky
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What fun you must have had at the poor ladies expense. Please furnish us with details of how you have made other people's careers a living nightmare.
You took the point like a good sport - so I'll refrain. Yes, a young hellion I was. Probably the worst of it was that I was a pretty bright kid with a good vocabulary, which served the art of hammering the teacher. Putting myself, today, in the place of those teachers I tortured, I think I'm aware of the devastating critique I'd've been handed. The only good side of that: humility, served up by the little 13 year old m#^%*}f$&#*~€ in my head.
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10 years in the RAAF as an airframe and engine specialist on F111 and P3C Orion.
Design Engineer for 10 years
Fashion Photographer these days with some engineering when I get sick of looking at pretty girls all day … :P
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1. Produce guy at Winn Dixie in Montgomery Alabama (1986-1986 :lol)
2. Pizza maker at Godfather's Pizza (1986-1987)
3. Delayed enlistment USAF 1987
4. Munitions Systems Specialist, USAF (1988-2000) - cool stuff amongst some boring stuff. Several deployments to include DESERT STORM
5. Manpower Analyst, USAF (2000-2011)
6. Retired from USAF, (officially Oct 1, 2011)
7. US Army GS Civilian; Manpower Analyst (2011-present)
Future:
Wife and I are thinking of opening a BBQ catering business in the SE USA. MTF
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1. Produce guy at Winn Dixie in Montgomery Alabama (1986-1986 :lol)
I worked for Winn Dixie in Jacksonville when I was in high school. Peak salary $1.35/hr My first job working in a boat shop 45 cents and hour.
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I worked at the Winn Dixie warehouse in Jax right after I separated from the Navy.......Used to deer hunt at "the ranch" each year.......
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Full Time Student :bhead
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Full Time Student :bhead
So you have the most cake life imaginable?
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You took the point like a good sport - so I'll refrain. Yes, a young hellion I was. Probably the worst of it was that I was a pretty bright kid with a good vocabulary, which served the art of hammering the teacher. Putting myself, today, in the place of those teachers I tortured, I think I'm aware of the devastating critique I'd've been handed. The only good side of that: humility, served up by the little 13 year old m#^%*}f$&#*~€ in my head.
:rofl
How about this....
My first day in 9th grade...first day in high school.....homeroom class....
the teacher is reading off the names taking attendance....
he comes to my name....he says " Paul Fie...(long pause)...Paul FIELDS"
I look at him and say..."hey...Whats up Mr Pappas"
"go to the office" was his response. :rofl :rofl
he was a teacher from the school I went to during my 7th and 8th year.... ;)
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So you have the most cake life imaginable?
Hardly anymore. Unless you're in a joke major like art or comms, you can fully expect 40K of debt along with your bachelors. My friend Menna? She's looking at 70K of debt going to Stanford
If he's in engineering, 50% washout rate on average. Biomed has a 60% washout rate. Any science major like physics or chemistry gets ridiculous in upper division classes.
If you think being a full time student is a cushy life of screwing around, you didn't take college very seriously.
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Hardly anymore. Unless you're in a joke major like art or comms, you can fully expect 40K of debt along with your bachelors. My friend Menna? She's looking at 70K of debt going to Stanford
If he's in engineering, 50% washout rate on average. Biomed has a 60% washout rate. Any science major like physics or chemistry gets ridiculous in upper division classes.
If you think being a full time student is a cushy life of screwing around, you didn't take college very seriously.
junky is in or has been in combat for a few years now. student life is a cake.
semp
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Currently part time crew trainer at McDonald's Australia.
Full time student at the University of Adelaide majoring in Politics.
Trying to meet the fitness requirement to allow me entrance into the Royal Military College Duntroon. With the intention of becoming an Officer in the Australian Army. (Failing that, I'll enlist and work my way up)
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Hardly anymore. Unless you're in a joke major like art or comms, you can fully expect 40K of debt along with your bachelors. My friend Menna? She's looking at 70K of debt going to Stanford
If he's in engineering, 50% washout rate on average. Biomed has a 60% washout rate. Any science major like physics or chemistry gets ridiculous in upper division classes.
If you think being a full time student is a cushy life of screwing around, you didn't take college very seriously.
Otoh, if he's in the liberal arts or social sciences...
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Nearly no matter what you pick, there is always something more stressful and hard. Even with combat, you can compare it to something that is much worse (like being on the losing side in the Battle of Stalingrad or the battle for Okinawa, and there are things worse than even those). That doesn't necessarily make what you picked a piece of cake. As TheCrazyOrange points out, some educations are a piece of cake, but some very much are not. Some are very competitive and high pressure, even if not as much as some other things.
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I think everyone is missing the joke - it was more of an inter-service poke from Junky I think than anything else. I'm sure Junky knows Ghost is in the Navy, and Junky being Army, you have to expect a certain amount of back and forth. I don't think he meant to slight anything about education/university/etc, at least that's what I first thought reading it.
I will agree with Brooke however about some education being incredibly taxing and difficult. I have a degree in what many would consider a basket weaving field, history. I went into one of the most difficult civilian training programs you can after completing that, before I was even 20 (IFR ATC). Neither of these held a candle to the distance learning I did last year through Standford's computer science department, specifically the artificial intelligence lab/machine learning under Prof Thrun. The 20 year old kids in that program that can blast through the math and eng in that program are far, far smarter than I am, or ever was, or ever will be when it comes to STEM. I would never have gotten through the first semester without a ton of hand holding and help groups, and I honestly would have zero shot at ever completing a graduate level degree in this area on my own. None. The students in today's STEM studies, particularly at the very technically advanced schools, but even everywhere else, are truly something else compared to 20+ years ago when I was first starting post secondary. The frustration I felt while in that AI program - I would take going back and doing PSD work, and getting possibly being ambushed every week over banging my head against that wall ever again, in a flash.
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I will agree with Brooke however about some education being incredibly taxing and difficult. I have a degree in what many would consider a basket weaving field, history. I went into one of the most difficult civilian training programs you can after completing that, before I was even 20 (IFR ATC). Neither of these held a candle to the distance learning I did last year through Standford's computer science department, specifically the artificial intelligence lab/machine learning under Prof Thrun. The 20 year old kids in that program that can blast through the math and eng in that program are far, far smarter than I am, or ever was, or ever will be when it comes to STEM. I would never have gotten through the first semester without a ton of hand holding and help groups, and I honestly would have zero shot at ever completing a graduate level degree in this area on my own. None. The students in today's STEM studies, particularly at the very technically advanced schools, but even everywhere else, are truly something else compared to 20+ years ago when I was first starting post secondary. The frustration I felt while in that AI program - I would take going back and doing PSD work, and getting possibly being ambushed every week over banging my head against that wall ever again, in a flash.
It's ridiculous, especially the medical related fields, and subatomic physics. Those fields are moving ahead exponentially.
My best friend Jacob is doing grad work at Stanford as well. I asked him what he was working on, and he said something about planck-aether, whatever the hell that is; I didn't follow his explanation. I try to stay relatively well caught up on this stuff, but it just drove home the fact that if you don't do work in a field, you've got no real chance to stay on the cutting edge.
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I think everyone is missing the joke - it was more of an inter-service poke from Junky I think than anything else. I'm sure Junky knows Ghost is in the Navy, and Junky being Army, you have to expect a certain amount of back and forth. I don't think he meant to slight anything about education/university/etc, at least that's what I first thought reading it.
Poking fun at Commissioned guys as well :) I'm currently furthering my education online
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A letterpress profession?
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It's ridiculous, especially the medical related fields, and subatomic physics. Those fields are moving ahead exponentially.
My best friend Jacob is doing grad work at Stanford as well. I asked him what he was working on, and he said something about planck-aether, whatever the hell that is; I didn't follow his explanation. I try to stay relatively well caught up on this stuff, but it just drove home the fact that if you don't do work in a field, you've got no real chance to stay on the cutting edge.
I'm not sure I could still get admitted to any of the degree programs I completed at either UM or Stanford. I'll say this: the admissions process is radically more competitive than it used to be. I still reckon lit, history, english, anthro, socio, etc. , are a good deal easier to complete than the engineering/science based stuff. Back in the day, the sophomore level eng/physics/math classes has 50-70% drop rates. Even sophomore calculus was difficult for a lot of people.
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My company provides aerial surveillance for federal law enforcement, private security, and global military forces. Condor Aerial.
Drones Baby.
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who else do you sell to that is the question.. :rofl
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Since the system cost starts at around 64K for a 3 hour flight time and 25 mile range (as an electric aircraft) we don't see any civilian request.
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Between all the technology and entrepenurisn that occurs in this country.. there is no way enemies can run the show.. its a world balancer.. We need more people like Condor thanks for stepping it up brother!!
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I fly around to different places and collect hotel keys and eat in lots of restaurants.
Ditto
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A letterpress profession?
.918" is Type-high - Brooke is correct!
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Ditto
Ur kiddn, FTJR lmao...
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well my Job is a blessing and a curse....
I create art for a living...the only living art....and have done so since 1988
but that means dealing with people and what they consider "art" :rolleyes:
you would be surprised :rofl
A smiley face like this doesn't count? : )
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I'm not sure I could still get admitted to any of the degree programs I completed at either UM or Stanford. I'll say this: the admissions process is radically more competitive than it used to be. I still reckon lit, history, english, anthro, socio, etc. , are a good deal easier to complete than the engineering/science based stuff. Back in the day, the sophomore level eng/physics/math classes has 50-70% drop rates. Even sophomore calculus was difficult for a lot of people.
One day I was taking the Megabus back to school and I ended up sitting next to this older guy (60s, early 70s maybe). I was studying for calc 3 and he made a comment to the effect of 'I'm glad I didn't have to do math like that when I was in school'. This of course prompted me to ask him what he majored in, assuming some kind of social science or bio maybe-- the response was 'math and physics at Ohio State' :O
I also think that the difficulty and perceptions of a lot of majors are really unfair. I'm in chemistry but a lot of my friends are English majors or whatever and they do a LOT of work and put in a lot of effort, more than I do a lot of the time probably to get similar results. And I'm not all that bright.
And as one of my best friends, who's an English major, says, 'I know engineers think were stupid, but don't get me wrong, we read things they write and we think they're idiots'
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One day I was taking the Megabus back to school and I ended up sitting next to this older guy (60s, early 70s maybe). I was studying for calc 3 and he made a comment to the effect of 'I'm glad I didn't have to do math like that when I was in school'. This of course prompted me to ask him what he majored in, assuming some kind of social science or bio maybe-- the response was 'math and physics at Ohio State' :O
I also think that the difficulty and perceptions of a lot of majors are really unfair. I'm in chemistry but a lot of my friends are English majors or whatever and they do a LOT of work and put in a lot of effort, more than I do a lot of the time probably to get similar results. And I'm not all that bright.
And as one of my best friends, who's an English major, says, 'I know engineers think were stupid, but don't get me wrong, we read things they write and we think they're idiots'
Yes, but, I've coined a term to underscore the fundamental distinction between the two worlds: empiricity. A wing section, just for example, generates lift because of principles that are beyond man's control. Ultimately, the "hard" sciences are disciplined by reality. The airplane flies or does not. The "soft" topiics, and I include part of what I learned in b-school here, but not most of it, since things like econ and finance to mea re really much like engineering, have no such test, ultimately, and, as such, also seem to have diminished utility and difficulty. Understand also, I could've gone either way, having a perfectly balanced SAT before I embarked on the whole Aero Engin thing.
Next time your English major friend talks to an engineer, tell him to reserve judgment and, instead, do his job and ask the engineer, "do you want fries with that?" Empiriicty again: if they're really that stupid, how come they tend employable and valuable, yet the same does not obtain for English majors? I accept that the latter work. The problem for them is, that work does not provide a lot of valued utility to others, at least as measured by the market. That's okay, so long as they understand the tradeoff... but judging by a lot of complaints I hear from people, many do not.
As for you: Chem... hmmm... probably a pretty good way to go these days.
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PJ I assume your an engineer then.
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In education, there are competitive, high-pressure programs that are non technical (think of getting into Juilliard). There are elite programs in nearly anything, even if it is practically useless for getting a decent job. Yet there are many nearly 100%-useless programs that are easier to drift through (xyz studies, art history, theater, underwater basket weaving, etc.) than STEM programs. It amazes me that people major in such things. It doubly amazes me that there are people who go into debt to do so. It triply amazes me that they are shocked after graduation to find out what their job prospects are.
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A smiley face like this doesn't count? : )
I actually did 2 of those...one on each of the guys knees.... :rofl
he was a wrestler and wanted his opponent to see them and crack up to break their concentration..... :rofl
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Being serious now. I am a mechanic for BAE Systems. I work on fully tracked armoured fighting vehicles and am currently assigned to the Bradley Family of Infantry Fighting Vehicles. And no, I am not in this pic but it was taken on the production line where I work in York, PA.
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In education, there are competitive, high-pressure programs that are non technical (think of getting into Juilliard). There are elite programs in nearly anything, even if it is practically useless for getting a decent job. Yet there are many nearly 100%-useless programs that are easier to drift through (xyz studies, art history, theater, underwater basket weaving, etc.) than STEM programs. It amazes me that people major in such things. It doubly amazes me that there are people who go into debt to do so. It triply amazes me that they are shocked after graduation to find out what their job prospects are.
Right. Low threshold to entry typically means that it's going to be a real dogfight to make it pay.
As for the expectations: I'm not sure many of them have really thought it through or would even know how to do so.
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Yes, but, I've coined a term to underscore the fundamental distinction between the two worlds: empiricity. A wing section, just for example, generates lift because of principles that are beyond man's control. Ultimately, the "hard" sciences are disciplined by reality. The airplane flies or does not. The "soft" topiics, and I include part of what I learned in b-school here, but not most of it, since things like econ and finance to mea re really much like engineering, have no such test, ultimately, and, as such, also seem to have diminished utility and difficulty. Understand also, I could've gone either way, having a perfectly balanced SAT before I embarked on the whole Aero Engin thing.
Next time your English major friend talks to an engineer, tell him to reserve judgment and, instead, do his job and ask the engineer, "do you want fries with that?" Empiriicty again: if they're really that stupid, how come they tend employable and valuable, yet the same does not obtain for English majors? I accept that the latter work. The problem for them is, that work does not provide a lot of valued utility to others, at least as measured by the market. That's okay, so long as they understand the tradeoff... but judging by a lot of complaints I hear from people, many do not.
As for you: Chem... hmmm... probably a pretty good way to go these days.
Chemistry probably isn't that great a field anymore, but realistically none of the rest of the sciences are either. Whether you're coming out with a chem, physics, or bio degree a B.S. is practically a high school diploma anymore. And while a high school diploma is better than no high school diploma, if I'm going to have to get a master's anyway...
(granted I'm getting the minor and jumping ship anyway, and geology is already looking up in terms of fulfillment and job prospects- I already get to be a "real scientist" come July or September)
I also will not tell him to reserve his judgment, I like hopping on. I had enough of the engineering student attitude in my first few semesters to not feel bad for them anyway. And that friend puts way more work into his studies than just about any engineering student I've ever met, and certainly genuine passion.
From my perspective it's practically as easy to skate on through a chemistry or biology degree as it is any other one, the difference being if you skate on through a STEM field you'll get a mediocre job and if you skate through anything else you'll get no job. Either way if you excel, likely are doing it for genuine passion instead of security or whatever you'll be better off. I really have respect for people who don't do STEM because they don't have that mediocre-job-safety-net. Ever since starting school I've looked at my getting into science as taking the easy way out.
Or at least that's what it seems to be to me. 5-10 years from now I might have a different perspective.
Granted 5-10 years from now you'll probably need a PhD to manage a McDonalds
In education, there are competitive, high-pressure programs that are non technical (think of getting into Juilliard). There are elite programs in nearly anything, even if it is practically useless for getting a decent job. Yet there are many nearly 100%-useless programs that are easier to drift through (xyz studies, art history, theater, underwater basket weaving, etc.) than STEM programs. It amazes me that people major in such things. It doubly amazes me that there are people who go into debt to do so. It triply amazes me that they are shocked after graduation to find out what their job prospects are.
I don't know if I'd knock art history so much, afaik there are a couple reasonable career paths with that depending on what else you major in.
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I don't know if I'd knock art history so much, afaik there are a couple reasonable career paths with that depending on what else you major in.
Sure, you can study art history along with something useful. Of course, someone who didn't spend a portion of their college time studying a hobby will have an advantage in knowledge. But on it's own, what's the job market for an art-history major?
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Chemistry probably isn't that great a field anymore, but realistically none of the rest of the sciences are either. Whether you're coming out with a chem, physics, or bio degree a B.S. is practically a high school diploma anymore. And while a high school diploma is better than no high school diploma, if I'm going to have to get a master's anyway...
(granted I'm getting the minor and jumping ship anyway, and geology is already looking up in terms of fulfillment and job prospects- I already get to be a "real scientist" come July or September)
I also will not tell him to reserve his judgment, I like hopping on. I had enough of the engineering student attitude in my first few semesters to not feel bad for them anyway. And that friend puts way more work into his studies than just about any engineering student I've ever met, and certainly genuine passion.
From my perspective it's practically as easy to skate on through a chemistry or biology degree as it is any other one, the difference being if you skate on through a STEM field you'll get a mediocre job and if you skate through anything else you'll get no job. Either way if you excel, likely are doing it for genuine passion instead of security or whatever you'll be better off. I really have respect for people who don't do STEM because they don't have that mediocre-job-safety-net. Ever since starting school I've looked at my getting into science as taking the easy way out.
Or at least that's what it seems to be to me. 5-10 years from now I might have a different perspective.
Granted 5-10 years from now you'll probably need a PhD to manage a McDonalds
I don't know if I'd knock art history so much, afaik there are a couple reasonable career paths with that depending on what else you major in.
Well, I'll agree on one thing, you'll need postgrad work. That's always been true.
Yes, engineers can be a tough crowd. I try to manage 'em now and see how hard it must've been back when it was the other way around. I had an ago as a consultant and vehicle dynamicist and most of the engineers I teach these days do too. But they're useful, once you get their attention.
As for the question, yes, I was an engineer, aero, then auto, for about thirteen years util ford and I transitioned to the dark side via an MBA.
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Sure, you can study art history along with something useful. Of course, someone who didn't spend a portion of their college time studying a hobby will have an advantage in knowledge. But on it's own, what's the job market for an art-history major?
The obvious career path is museum work, paired with chemistry and other studies this can lead to restoration and such or whatever--- I'm not exactly an expert, but the starting salary difference between art history and say biology is $4,000 ($36k vs $40k)
Practically all bachelors degrees are equally worthless outside of engineering.
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Well, I'll agree on one thing, you'll need postgrad work. That's always been true.
Yes, engineers can be a tough crowd. I try to manage 'em now and see how hard it must've been back when it was the other way around. I had an ago as a consultant and vehicle dynamicist and most of the engineers I teach these days do too. But they're useful, once you get their attention.
As for the question, yes, I was an engineer, aero, then auto, for about thirteen years util ford and I transitioned to the dark side via an MBA.
I wouldn't call them tough. Just pretentious and with an unearned air of superiority. I can deal with premed people because they deserve the elitism, I don't appreciate someone who gets a 50% in a class curved up to a C, graduating with a 2.7 and acting like their ---- doesn't stink.
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I wouldn't call them tough. Just pretentious and with an unearned air of superiority. I can deal with premed people because they deserve the elitism, I don't appreciate someone who gets a 50% in a class curved up to a C, graduating with a 2.7 and acting like their ---- doesn't stink.
I can see how it would grate. However, it's not that much better when the guy's genuinely gifted, either. I well remember a guy, who I won't name, in the Stanford aero grad program, who was a self-proclaimed savant. He was, admittedly, incredibly bright.
Last I saw, he was a director at a company and had responsibility for a very specific project; a lightweight battery that got some, uh, high-profile negative attention. It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy... A little humility is, and I've got plenty of other stories, a wise thing to possess. Remember that yourself, young stuff, as you advance in the world. It's a gift; one that is harder to keep as success accrues.
I should add, I use the term "tough" as in "tough crowd" the way a comic uses it. It can be difficult to win a crowd of self-styled skeptics, especially when you consider that a fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer. I say that, yet it's worst in North America. I go to Germany and find the crowds far more daunting -and far more receptive to process work.
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Currently a med student.
The only way the science degree is of use anymore is with a master's in a specialty. Degree in micro or pharm is where its at right now. Those fields wont die especially a concentration with bio terrorism in micro.
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The obvious career path is museum work, paired with chemistry and other studies this can lead to restoration and such or whatever--- I'm not exactly an expert, but the starting salary difference between art history and say biology is $4,000 ($36k vs $40k)
Practically all bachelors degrees are equally worthless outside of engineering.
True, but for any field there is always the "I'll get such and such degree and be an [insert rare job here]" angle. Starting-salary stats usually don't count as zero salary the people who don't get jobs. If they did, it would give a much more-complete picture of the job prospects.
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True, but for any field there is always the "I'll get such and such degree and be an [insert rare job here]" angle. Starting-salary stats usually don't count as zero salary the people who don't get jobs. If they did, it would give a much more-complete picture of the job prospects.
http://graphicsweb.wsj.com/documents/NILF1111/#term=
which actually puts art history and biology closer together (only 2k salary difference) and has unemployment at a 1.3% difference (5.6% vs 6.3%) which isn't a huge swing compared with say computer engineering at 7%
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http://graphicsweb.wsj.com/documents/NILF1111/#term=
which actually puts art history and biology closer together (only 2k salary difference) and has unemployment at a 1.3% difference (5.6% vs 6.3%) which isn't a huge swing compared with say computer engineering at 7%
Wow -- that is a great reference, and thank you for posting it. I see that I shouldn't have maligned art history as much as I did. You are right, and I stand corrected. :aok
For all majors in that list, 25th percentile unemployment is 6.7% vs. 75th percentile unemployment of 4.3%. There isn't much range, which really surprises me. But then, there are studies like the one from the NY Fed ( http://www.newyorkfed.org/research/current_issues/ci20-1.pdf ) that states underemployment of college grads in 2012 was 44% (underemployment being when the grad takes a job that doesn't require a college degree). I suspect a lot more art-history majors fit that category than STEM graduates, sort of like the differences shown in Chart 7, where unemployment isn't that radically different among the fields, but underemployment is very different.
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http://graphicsweb.wsj.com/documents/NILF1111/#term=
I just have to say again: this is a fabulous reference, and thank you for posting it. I had looked for such a reference on the net before, but didn't find anything even remotely as complete. :aok
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Actually, I like this one better, though it's the same source of research (Georgetown). That median data doesn't tell the whole story, since there's a lot of scatter by subcategory. For example, check out the social sciences and you'll see that sociology is on the low end, econ on the high end: http://cew.georgetown.edu/whatsitworth (http://cew.georgetown.edu/whatsitworth)
As for the link above, per usual, I want more data behind the metrics. As you note, Brooke, they offer little/no explanation. THat's why I went to the GT site to begin; to try to understand what was behind the report. They don't make clear, and citing the fact that it's based on census data doesn't help, whether the grads of "the field" cited, are actually wokring in the field they studied. Consider, for example, that my sister works in management at Sears holdings. She has a couple of grad degrees ( UM/Boston, IIRC) in Music, meow, meow, for god's sake. She was a concert violinist and left that field long ago because it doesn't pay. So how would that show on the survey?
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Sr. Large Loss Property Adjuster for a major insurance company
Prior to that I did residential and commercial consulting/reconstruction of structures from insured losses ( fires, floods,tornados,hurricanes etc etc )
Took mr 15yrs to realize it's easier to give the money away than collect it :)
In all seriousness it's a great job. I get to work from home and make my own schedule. Most importantly, I get to help people when things are at their worst and get to do it for a company that actually really cares about their policyholders. (Something that is missing in the insurance world now a days )
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<-- Software Business Analyst (holding a degree in Computer Science & Software engineering, MBA in Management of IT Technologies & E-Business )...
basically I take your Business Idea an turn it into a money making software solution & / Or improve your companies Business Processes....
boring stuff....
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<-- Software Business Analyst (holding a degree in Computer Science & Software engineering, MBA in Management of IT Technologies & E-Business )...
basically I take your Business Idea an turn it into a money making software solution & / Or improve your companies Business Processes....
boring stuff....
Not at all... Indeed, turning business processes into proto software tools is, imj, one of the purest forms of logic problems we have.
The funniest thing here: We've got IT people who will now actually go out to find out what prot software we code in excel/vba in a quest to be more "relevant"
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Aerospace Engineer
Over the past 35 yrs I've worked on
F-111
F-16 (got a funny story about the F-16XL rollout)
A-7
NASA F8U variant
Space Shuttle
International Space Station
Several missile programs
And a few programs I can't talk about :cool:
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Dishwasher, paratrooper, ditch digger, cab driver, police officer/ crash rescue firefighter, security officer, jump pilot, warbirds pilot, Emergency Room clerk and now sailing vessel captain.
The more fun ones pay the least. ;)
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Dishwasher, paratrooper, ditch digger, cab driver, police officer/ crash rescue firefighter, security officer, jump pilot, warbirds pilot, Emergency Room clerk and now sailing vessel captain.
The more fun ones pay the least. ;)
Go with "Renaissance Man". You've earned it. :salute
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<---- Software Engineer.
Actually, these days, I lead a small team of them, but I still get to do some coding myself too. As for the debate about STEM fields, it depends on the STEM field and the job you choose to do. I have friends who have PHDs from Berkeley in Bio-Chemistry and they don't make that much money, but then again, they are doing research at a university....
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Talking about art history, take a look at this Ph. D., Specialist of Art Markets (http://www.pauliinalaitinenlaiho.com/1). Being one of our leading experts in her branch I believe "unemployed" doesn't belong to her vocabulary...
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If you think being a full time student is a cushy life of screwing around, you didn't take college very seriously.
It depends on the quality of the HS you went too. I went to public school and I was surprised when I went to university at the discrepancy between the students. Personally, I felt the first two years of university were easy and the last two were very hard. I will say that within the engineering program I was in, many students dropped out/switched majors (most to biz) within the first two years. Usually, it was because they found business school to be easier (I'm guessing it was the math classes that were the issue).
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She has a couple of grad degrees ( UM/Boston, IIRC) in Music, meow, meow, for god's sake. She was a concert violinist and left that field long ago because it doesn't pay. So how would that show on the survey?
What does "meow, meow, for god's sake" mean?
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Hilarious. I wondered if anybody would notice that. :aok - for you, Pembquist.
Are you familiar with Henrietta the Cat, perchance?
Perhaps the radio DJ Mike "ButtMike" Clark..?
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Paramedic for last 26 yrs looking to get out hey Del how did ya get involved with what you do?
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It depends on the quality of the HS you went too. I went to public school and I was surprised when I went to university at the discrepancy between the students. Personally, I felt the first two years of university were easy and the last two were very hard. I will say that within the engineering program I was in, many students dropped out/switched majors (most to biz) within the first two years. Usually, it was because they found business school to be easier (I'm guessing it was the math classes that were the issue).
I agree. The attrition rate in the engineering curriculum was brutal. The last two years especially. I think we all experienced the same shock though. It's one thing to be one of the smart kids in your high school. The eye opener comes when you realize that ALL of your peers in college were the smart kids in THEIR high schools. It's an instant reality check.
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I agree. The attrition rate in the engineering curriculum was brutal. The last two years especially. I think we all experienced the same shock though. It's one thing to be one of the smart kids in your high school. The eye opener comes when you realize that ALL of your peers in college were the smart kids in THEIR high schools. It's an instant reality check.
Funny... My experience was that Grad school in Eng was hard and so was sophomore year, but, in the last two of undergrad, I had an eerie (it pissed off my study buddy no end) ability to perform so-so right up until the final. There, I'd rack something perfect or near-perfect.
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Funny... My experience was that Grad school in Eng was hard and so was sophomore year, but, in the last two of undergrad, I had an eerie (it pissed off my study buddy no end) ability to perform so-so right up until the final. There, I'd rack something perfect or near-perfect.
Different strokes I guess. My roommate could solve any differential equation known to man, but he flunked freshman English FOUR times. :lol Most people complained about Economics being a pain, but I went to class TWICE and got an A. Go figure.
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Sure, you can study art history along with something useful. Of course, someone who didn't spend a portion of their college time studying a hobby will have an advantage in knowledge. But on it's own, what's the job market for an art-history major?
the idea that something is useless because its not as monetarily or materially productive as this or that career, is in my opinion only, based on ignorance. the produce/consume mentality, in time, will be shown as the bane of our existence. this world needs artists, art historians, museums and the like. there are many reasons, one is that sometimes we need someone from the outside looking in to show us what is right in front of us. i could go on and on.
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the idea that something is useless because its not as monetarily or materially productive as this or that career, is in my opinion only, based on ignorance. the produce/consume mentality, in time, will be shown as the bane of our existence. this world needs artists, art historians, museums and the like. there are many reasons, one is that sometimes we need someone from the outside looking in to show us what is right in front of us. i could go on and on.
Agreed... And, actually, I suspect Brooke would probably agree as well. I think his only point is that, before you make that career choice, you need to understand the financial trade off you may be making. Otherwise, you're making an uninformed decision. It's kind of like the person who buys property near the airport, then spends the next several years complaining about the noise. Better to understand what you're doing...
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the idea that something is useless because its not as monetarily or materially productive as this or that career, is in my opinion only, based on ignorance. the produce/consume mentality, in time, will be shown as the bane of our existence. this world needs artists, art historians, museums and the like. there are many reasons, one is that sometimes we need someone from the outside looking in to show us what is right in front of us. i could go on and on.
My opinion might be incorrect, but it isn't incorrect based on ignorance. ;)
I do think that art, history, art history, artists, musicians, museums, etc. are vital. There are two problems, though.
First is that there are many more people who go into those fields than the world wants or needs, as evidenced by their salaries and how many of them never work in the field in which they trained; and a lot of people who go into those fields don't learn this easily researched situation until after they graduate. This is unfortunate, as they end up being unhappy, disillusioned, and not well off financially, and that is no good for anyone.
Second is the idea that, since those things are so important, college students should spend a substantial portion of their time in those courses. But are they more important than additional education in the field that will be your profession? In most cases, no. Also, are they more important than other things that are neglected? For example, the information in Basic Economics, by Sowell (or Economics in One Lesson, by Hazlitt), With the Old Breed, by Sledge, basic finance, basic information on what a corporation is, the history of Rome, the information in How to Win Friends and Influence People, the information in You Can Negotiate Anything, and basic logic are unknown by the vast majority of college graduates. Those items are of vastly more worth to the non-arts graduates and to the nation than having read The Iliad, the Sound and the Fury, the Great Gatsby, a music class, an art class, and a language class.
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shit, i just put nails in wood.
i'd call myself a carpenter but i don't have that piece of paper that says i am...but i'm doing pretty good without it, and there's still a lot of upward movement available.
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been otr driver since 02-1-1978. working for the same company for 35yrs. coming up on 4 million miles. its still fun if it ever becomes a job i'll park it.
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shit, i just put nails in wood.
i'd call myself a carpenter but i don't have that piece of paper that says i am...but i'm doing pretty good without it, and there's still a lot of upward movement available.
Its how i started out....and am thankful every day that i did it. :aok
People working in the trades in my area are starting to dry up...If my son wanted to go into a trade, id absolutely encourage it....has anyone had to hire a carpenter, electrician or plumber lately? Not cheap at all.....Heck a friend of mine that became an electrician is making well into the 6 figures, and a family member thats a plumber same story. Heck even me having started out in construction just hit that in the last couple of years working as a Property Insurance Adjuster.....It was my construction skills that opened that door.........Many many kids comming out of school are going right into college hoping to come out and make huge salaries...im not saying it doesnt happen, but not to the majority....The majority are comming out with huge debt, and making average money ( when they can find a job.)
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Wow....just wow......
A topic about what profession people work hijacked by a conversation debating what degree program is more advantageous......
There's your higher education at work........enjoy your debt.
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Wow....just wow......
A topic about what profession people work hijacked by a conversation debating what degree program is more advantageous......
There's your higher education at work........enjoy your debt.
Debt? Not me, man. The last grad degree program I did for which I actually had to put up any money (and it was only partial) was done in '87. My second grad degree was purely sponsored by my employer.
But you raise an entirely valid point, and it relates to what we were talking about: what good is a degree that doesn't pay for itself? The point raised by the Finnish gent is that there may be some non-monetary payoff in some of this stuff - he cited art history. My counterpoint: Yes, but its best to understand the financials so that you make the decision to forego the income in an informed way, as opposed to an ignorant one. You then appeared and actually reinforced the point, albeit by way of criticism of those who took the academic path.
Me, I've got nothing against the trades. One of my better buds is a guy we'll call Rick the Porsche Plumber ( he married well, too...). Does he report all his income? Probably not... but I don't ask. And that's one of the great things about the trades. Mind, I can do framing, electrical, drywall, and most plumbing (I shy away from black iron/gas lines) as well as many of those guys because I've got a more or less perpetual basement project going. The only thing that changes is the house in which I'm doing the basement. I "get" the trades. But it's more a hobby for me,. Not every engineer wants to get into putting hands to tools, even less a managementized engineer. However, it is still a good career path for guys who can handle actually having to deliver a result.
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Sales VP, CLE, I repair broken sales people or call fire-in-the-hole on them
American Airlines miles accumulator
Marriott regular
Designated parking space at DFW airport
University of Oklahoma Sports fan and donor
Dad, baseball enthusiast, husband, disgruntled NFL fan.
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I always have a hard time answering when somebody asks what I do. Right now I'm trying not to lose money in the stock market. I always hesitated to call myself a carpenter as I only once worked for an incompetent contractor for a couple months and other than that have been a jack of all but since technically I can't legally do plumbing or electrical work I guess I'm an unprofessional something. The money I've made has been from moving into the kind of neighborhood where people would get shot from time to time, buying the wreckage of neglected houses, destroying my body renovating them and then having kind fortune smile upon me with the decidedly mixed blessing of gentrification. I am the worst landlord, in that you could probably walk all over me to a point and while I could have made a fortune during the stupid years I found the whole debt fueled house flipping phenomena repulsive and destructive so I pretty much sat out the housing bubble/crisis.
The tangent regarding education deserves it's own thread so I won't comment here except to say that I'm largely an autodidact who always had trouble with attending classes in college for reasons unrelated to intelligence. Fortunately for me that was in the days before the current absurd student loan situation so I was able to pay off my student debt quickly however without a degree.
Regarding the trades, there are tradesmen and then there are tradesmen. A lot of people think that they can do any trade (like me) but really, for instance, to be a decent carpenter takes five years of steady and varied work and a respect for the trade that is often lacking among the hirers and the hired.
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Yep. Pretty tightly reasoned by the observant one... A flipper, i'd call you. That's a big balls role.
As for your comment on the student loan situ: education is a bubble. Ask yourself: what constituency benefits from artificially distorted demand for higher education?
THen understand who the new helot class is... and all to fund a vocal minority that lives very firmly in a particular political pocket, about which I will say nothing more publicly.
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10 years experience systems administrator / network engineer.
5 years experience as a information security / network security engineer and analyst.
Somehow transitioned to technology auditing over the past 10 years.
Now a bank technology examiner with one of the financial regulatory agencies.
It's been a bit of an odd career path... :uhoh
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My brother in law has a theory which I haven't yet been able to prove wrong: Economically it doesn't actually matter what your profession is as long as you're the best in it.
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My brother in law has a theory which I haven't yet been able to prove wrong: Economically it doesn't actually matter what your profession is as long as you're the best in it.
If you have a job you love, you'll never work a day in your life.
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Not every engineer wants to get into putting hands to tools, even less a managementized engineer. However, it is still a good career path for guys who can handle actually having to deliver a result.
I wish engineering were more hands on; would do the real egg heads some good to see and work with the results of their calculations and cyanotypes. From what I've seen in classes, everyone is preaching "sustainable engineering", and this eco crap, even in the basic aero/auto/mech classes. Nevermind that it's less reliable, we can recycle 60% of it when it breaks! First year, they completely glossed over the fact that it call comes down to this:$$$$$$
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I wish engineering were more hands on; would do the real egg heads some good to see and work with the results of their calculations...
AMEN!
I've worked with some absolutely brilliant PhD types who didn't have a clue how to make things work in the "real world". Theoretically brilliant, but largely helpless in a practical sense. I had an engineering lead years ago who told me he didn't want anyone working for him who didn't at least know how to change their own oil, or put a bicycle together on Christmas morning. Over the years I've come to adopt the same philosophy.
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Certified Bull$h17 detector attached to an elite team of donut destroyers.
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My opinion might be incorrect, but it isn't incorrect based on ignorance. ;)
I do think that art, history, art history, artists, musicians, museums, etc. are vital. There are two problems, though.
First is that there are many more people who go into those fields than the world wants or needs, as evidenced by their salaries and how many of them never work in the field in which they trained; and a lot of people who go into those fields don't learn this easily researched situation until after they graduate. This is unfortunate, as they end up being unhappy, disillusioned, and not well off financially, and that is no good for anyone.
Second is the idea that, since those things are so important, college students should spend a substantial portion of their time in those courses. But are they more important than additional education in the field that will be your profession? In most cases, no. Also, are they more important than other things that are neglected? For example, the information in Basic Economics, by Sowell (or Economics in One Lesson, by Hazlitt), With the Old Breed, by Sledge, basic finance, basic information on what a corporation is, the history of Rome, the information in How to Win Friends and Influence People, the information in You Can Negotiate Anything, and basic logic are unknown by the vast majority of college graduates. Those items are of vastly more worth to the non-arts graduates and to the nation than having read The Iliad, the Sound and the Fury, the Great Gatsby, a music class, an art class, and a language class.
ohhh ok, yeah i see what youre saying. that makes sense. lol duh!! so yeah i agree that you should be aware of the job prospects when you graduate. and it makes no sense to train in a field without fully researching the job prospects. for me, i trained as a musician and was well aware of the job prospects, my teachers told me, dont do it unless youre ready to be broke. lol, they were right. but i wouldnt change anything. the payoff for art and music is what it can do for the people of our world.
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ohhh ok, yeah i see what youre saying. that makes sense. lol duh!! so yeah i agree that you should be aware of the job prospects when you graduate. and it makes no sense to train in a field without fully researching the job prospects. for me, i trained as a musician and was well aware of the job prospects, my teachers told me, dont do it unless youre ready to be broke. lol, they were right. but i wouldnt change anything. the payoff for art and music is what it can do for the people of our world.
they don't call it "starving Artist" for nothing :)
I will say though...Tattooing a very real art...a "living" art....has paid me quite well at times.
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they don't call it "starving Artist" for nothing :)
I will say though...Tattooing a very real art...a "living" art....has paid me quite well at times.
sometimes...I'm sure yours are...there are some butchers and printers out there though
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sometimes...I'm sure yours are...there are some butchers and printers out there though
"some butchers"....understatement. :aok
I have had people wait 10 years to get tattooed by me....they seem to think I am good.
I do have a loooooooong list of haters though..... :uhoh
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for me, i trained as a musician and was well aware of the job prospects, my teachers told me, dont do it unless youre ready to be broke. lol, they were right. but i wouldnt change anything. the payoff for art and music is what it can do for the people of our world.
I'm all in favor of that: people doing what they love, taking pleasure in it, knowing what they are going after, and being happy with it. :aok
And I do not think money is everything in a profession. There are many professions that pay well that I wouldn't do because I'd hate doing it day after day. And some that I like (such as programming) are things that some folks would feel are horribly boring. A person's preferences figure significantly into all of it.
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Many many kids comming out of school are going right into college hoping to come out and make huge salaries...im not saying it doesnt happen, but not to the majority....The majority are comming out with huge debt, and making average money ( when they can find a job.)
for some reason if you even mention trades, they act like they never even knew it was a possibility, or they act like its "below" them somehow. its funny, though, i make enough to live comfortably, get to spend all summer outside, point out things i built to people any time we pass by it, have a a lot of fun at work, and turn some lines on paper into what will be someones home. there's always something new to learn or try to make things easier
ok, winter sucks, there's some element of danger, my back hurts sometimes and there's always some stupid mistake to fix, or kids with 2-3 years of experience who think they know something to beat into shape...
but the good outweighs the bad most days. can't see why they'd think there's anything wrong with it.
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Trade men will never die. They have been and always will be what builds America. You cannot automate customization and customization will always be the deciding factor in a sales final analysis. There is nothing more incredible than for someone to be able to take wood, metal or alloys and make something from nothing that is good looking and works. And if you're good enough, you will always be your own boss and THAT is where money resides...not working for someone else.
I'd love to know how many metalworkers on the production line at the Skunkworks had Bachelor's degrees in 1960. Alum, Titanium and copper geniuses...artists, one and all.
Its one thing to design something that works. Its something entirely different to build it. Both are greatness but one is useless without the other.
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I wish engineering were more hands on; would do the real egg heads some good to see and work with the results of their calculations and cyanotypes. From what I've seen in classes, everyone is preaching "sustainable engineering", and this eco crap, even in the basic aero/auto/mech classes. Nevermind that it's less reliable, we can recycle 60% of it when it breaks! First year, they completely glossed over the fact that it call comes down to this:$$$$$$
Now here I completely agree with you and in the other thread, not so much. Go figure.
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Trade men will never die. They have been and always will be what builds America. You cannot automate customization and customization will always be the deciding factor in a sales final analysis. There is nothing more incredible than for someone to be able to take wood, metal or alloys and make something from nothing that is good looking and works. And if you're good enough, you will always be your own boss and THAT is where money resides...not working for someone else.
I'd love to know how many metalworkers on the production line at the Skunkworks had Bachelor's degrees in 1960. Alum, Titanium and copper geniuses...artists, one and all.
Its one thing to design something that works. Its something entirely different to build it. Both are greatness but one is useless without the other.
They're both links in a chain. Either one fails and you've got junk... But here I'm going to go OFF a little, specifically on the schools. I actually feel that both engineering and the trades (building stuff) get short shrift from jump. Why? Anecdotal experience. When I was a kid back there in public and private schools, there were plenty of art classes. However, I wanted to build crap and learn about how stuff worked. The only offerings along this line in grade school was math class (no early physics until HS) and one lame model-building extra-curricular when the volunteer dude who ran it was available (not often). Both are denigrated, at least in the hands-on realm, as either dirty , dangerous , or low-brow.
Who do I blame? Frankly, I blame women. Its clear to me that the schools are feminized: run by women for girls. Sure, there are exceptions... But I throw that out there, in part, to be provocative. Most ADD/ADHD diagosis is for behavior that I used to think of as normal boy stuff and is applied to boys. Most class work is feminized.
Okay, rip me a new one for this. Critique...
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Who do I blame? Frankly, I blame women. Its clear to me that the schools are feminized: run by women for girls. Sure, there are exceptions... But I throw that out there, in part, to be provocative. Most ADD/ADHD diagosis is for behavior that I used to think of as normal boy stuff and is applied to boys. Most class work is feminized.
Okay, rip me a new one for this. Critique...
A very well known, and amazingly open-minded feminist, Camille Paglia, actually agrees with you on this one.
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A very well known, and amazingly open-minded feminist, Camille Paglia, actually agrees with you on this one.
Yes, indeed. She is regularly excoriated for this view as well - yet maintains pretty solid exposure.
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Partner in company making portable, lightweight, wireless, full-body motion capture systems used by movie studios, game companies, animators, and sports bio-mechanical analysis.
Small company. About 40 developers doing hardware, software and middle-ware algorithms. Rooms full of PhD's who know how to create and build.
Wrote a very bad (or so I thought) novel ten years ago based on real-life events and people I knew 35 years ago. Recently won the lottery, so to speak, as a real producer and real studio bought the story this year and it's being made into a real movie for release next year. So, I have a part-time job flying back and forth to Hollywood for screenplay meetings and lunches on patios with people who wear sunglasses. I still can't believe it.
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Partner in company making portable, lightweight, wireless, full-body motion capture systems used by movie studios, game companies, animators, and sports bio-mechanical analysis.
Small company. About 40 developers doing hardware, software and middle-ware algorithms. Rooms full of PhD's who know how to create and build.
Wrote a very bad (or so I thought) novel ten years ago based on real-life events and people I knew 35 years ago. Recently won the lottery, so to speak, as a real producer and real studio bought the story this year and it's being made into a real movie for release next year. So, I have a part-time job flying back and forth to Hollywood for screenplay meetings and lunches on patios with people who wear sunglasses. I still can't believe it.
Let us know when it comes out Rolex. :aok
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Partner in company making portable, lightweight, wireless, full-body motion capture systems used by movie studios, game companies, animators, and sports bio-mechanical analysis.
Small company. About 40 developers doing hardware, software and middle-ware algorithms. Rooms full of PhD's who know how to create and build.
Wrote a very bad (or so I thought) novel ten years ago based on real-life events and people I knew 35 years ago. Recently won the lottery, so to speak, as a real producer and real studio bought the story this year and it's being made into a real movie for release next year. So, I have a part-time job flying back and forth to Hollywood for screenplay meetings and lunches on patios with people who wear sunglasses. I still can't believe it.
you guys hiring ?
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I am the manager of a small rural water district...we are spread out over about 100 or so square miles and we provide water to over 700 homes...I love my job... :rock
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Wrote a very bad (or so I thought) novel ten years ago based on real-life events and people I knew 35 years ago. Recently won the lottery, so to speak, as a real producer and real studio bought the story this year and it's being made into a real movie for release next year.
:lol Cool! Yes, let us know when it comes out. Also, can we get the novel from Amazon? (Is it "I Flew With These Weirdos," by Rolex? ;) )