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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MrKrabs on October 12, 2014, 06:20:23 AM
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Short version...
Store has a new GM... Useless as fawk... Doesn't even do daily's... Much less ordering...
Store does not have an assistant manager and prolly will not for the rest of the month...
Here I am "Senior Sales Associate" killing himself keeping the store afloat... And the only real assistance I'm getting is from another GM from another site...
Territory Rep doesn't give two sheets and Region, Rep well doesn't pick up or seem to know athe phone has been invented... The only shread of investigation is from loss control folks I contacted but there is little they can do unless there's a catestrophic # problem...
I should probably stop doing what I'm doing but not when the jobs and livelyhoods of my co-workers may be jepordized!
I don't know what to do anymore, I'm at a total loss...
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Dam Krabs that's a shame ya have so much stress. A lot of people out there unfortunately that just don't care. What kind of sales are you involved in if you don't mind me asking?
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Dam Krabs that's a shame ya have so much stress. A lot of people out there unfortunately that just don't care. What kind of sales are you involved in if you don't mind me asking?
Just Retail Convience Store... Just a peon apparantly...
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I just dozed off in the office :cry
I'm staying here until at least 10am so I can make sure 2nd shift is covered on QSR side...
MUST STAY AWAKE
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Don't worry Im just a peon as well. The world needs us though. :)
Get some rest when ya go home and enjoy yourself.
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Don't worry Im just a peon as well. The world needs us though. :)
Get some rest when ya go home and enjoy yourself.
Won't happen, I need to be back a3pm and work until 11:15pm... Then come back at 6am long enough to prepare EOD and to see if the GM will do what she has been normally doing "just counting safe and going home". If so the GM from the other site has generously agreed to come and get the week started while I "might" get some sleep if people adhere to the schedule...
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Sorry, but you're doing the wrong thing. You are covering up the problem with the new GM and running ragged doing work way beyond your pay grade to do it. How long can you keep that up? I understand your loyalty to your co-workers, but you can't kill yourself keeping things on track.
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A cousin of mine works for a publisher in Bergen and had a similar experience after her... I suppose you can call it a GM, died. The company leadership failed or neglected to get a new GM and she was left to take up the slack. She lasted a couple of months before she suffered a total breakdown and had to go on sick leave for a couple of months.
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Tough breaks dude.
But your job is your job. And while your coworkers depend on you, they shouldn't need to. You need to make the situation known. And do so quickly.
Just make sure that once you decide what to do. You follow through on it.
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Watch the movie "Office Space."
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Sorry, but you're doing the wrong thing. You are covering up the problem with the new GM and running ragged doing work way beyond your pay grade to do it. How long can you keep that up? I understand your loyalty to your co-workers, but you can't kill yourself keeping things on track.
^this
No bonus points for making yourself sick.
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Any possibility of letting the current GM fall on her face and then getting promoted into the position?
Maybe it's an opportunity, not a problem.
If so, although it's got risks, you can work to set that up by going to whoever has the power to hire and fire GM's, letting them know the problem (documented in detail), that you would love to take over the position, and that you'd do an excellent job for them in that position, helping them make more money than if they keep the current GM. The risk is if the GM hears of it and has the ability to make your life miserable. If they don't flat our refuse, but seem hesitant, you could sweeten the pot -- offer to do it for less than she does, or do it for 3 months at your current salary, and if they don't like the job you are doing, move you back to your current position.
Good books to read to help you negotiate things and convince people:
How to Win Friends and Influence People, by Carnegie
You Can Negotiate Anything, by Cohen
How to Make People Like you in 90 Seconds or Less, by Boothman
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I know how you feel crabby, I went through the same crap at one of my last jobs, GM didn't know crap. Me being the welding sup had to pick up his slack. Thing is even with as much as I did and what your doing there was know "good job" or any of that. My daughter is also going through the same thing at the WaffleHouse in Cocoa Beach as well!!! Her Mgr is as racist as they come, thing is it's reverse racsicm!!! Hang in the Crabby!!! :salute :old:
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I'm thinking when people are saying to go over their heads they didn't read the part where I already went way over their heads by 2 levels... And trying to get at least the VP of Florida operation's email is proving bothersome...
And Dragon wtf is she still doing at waffle house...
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Short version...
Store has a new GM... Useless as fawk... Doesn't even do daily's... Much less ordering...
Store does not have an assistant manager and prolly will not for the rest of the month...
Here I am "Senior Sales Associate" killing himself keeping the store afloat... And the only real assistance I'm getting is from another GM from another site...
Territory Rep doesn't give two sheets and Region, Rep well doesn't pick up or seem to know athe phone has been invented... The only shread of investigation is from loss control folks I contacted but there is little they can do unless there's a catestrophic # problem...
I should probably stop doing what I'm doing but not when the jobs and livelyhoods of my co-workers may be jepordized!
I don't know what to do anymore, I'm at a total loss...
Contact uppper management about the problem. If you're scared, make it anonymous so they will audit the slacker.
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Sounds like you need a trainload of revolutionary alligators.
What you describe seems to be at least 40 percent of the corporate world. Don't kill yourself over it. It is very hard if you are conscientious not to get sucked into subsidizing a disfunctional organization. The problem is the fine line between being exploited and responsible. It doesn't help to keep buying the alcoholic more drinks.
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Short version...
Store has a new GM... Useless as fawk... Doesn't even do daily's... Much less ordering...
Store does not have an assistant manager and prolly will not for the rest of the month...
Here I am "Senior Sales Associate" killing himself keeping the store afloat... And the only real assistance I'm getting is from another GM from another site...
Territory Rep doesn't give two sheets and Region, Rep well doesn't pick up or seem to know athe phone has been invented... The only shread of investigation is from loss control folks I contacted but there is little they can do unless there's a catestrophic # problem...
I should probably stop doing what I'm doing but not when the jobs and livelyhoods of my co-workers may be jepordized!
I don't know what to do anymore, I'm at a total loss...
Sound to me like you need to find a catastrophic problem... and make sure whoever's who finds out about it.
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I'm thinking when people are saying to go over their heads they didn't read the part where I already went way over their heads by 2 levels... And trying to get at least the VP of Florida operation's email is proving bothersome...
And Dragon wtf is she still doing at waffle house...
Sometimes 2 levels is too much. What you want is the person directly responsible for filling the position or one level above the person you have problems with. If you go more levels above that, they often won't know the details, often won't value someone trying to contact them, and sometimes complain down the chain with a comment like "Why is this person contacting me about this instead of you?" If that happens, it pisses off everyone up the chain from you. Best is to go only as high as absolutely needed giving that person the opportunity to look good to the folks above him.
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Sound to me like you need to find a catastrophic problem... and make sure whoever's who finds out about it.
Very much in the process of making one... And won't be considered any sort of sabotage either...
And Brooke... As stated I would have never gone 2 levels up if I didn't plea to the Territory Rep which IS the direct superior to a GM and then went direct to the superior of the Territory Rep the Regional Rep and now I have sent in my plea to the VP of Operations of FL right after I witnessed the submission of the GM of another site that has been helping me to the VP as well...
As of now with the work week starting on Saturday I am at 37 hours on the clock... If you count hours from last Friday "which count for last week work week" I am at 47.5 with stints of 3-5 hours between shifts...
"I know wah wah wah poor baby"
Yes I am filing and backing up timecards, if I remember correctly the short timebetween shifts like that is illegal... Prolly wrong... I'll do research once I actually make some ZZZ face love with my pillow...
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And Brooke... As stated
Rgr that, Krabs. Sorry it is a stressful time, and I hope it all works out well for you.
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Has a problem GM been dumped on your location so that she can fail and be gotten rid of?
You will be a hero and a target by exposing yourself to management as willing to report management to management. Especially since I will venture none of her management you have contacted is making any written or verbal agreements to you in reward or in help for your actions so far. You are exposed and of your only initiative, so they are all free of entanglement with you.
She may be there on work improvement probation to either improve herself or give her management enough documentation to get rid of her. Enter yourself contacting her management uninvited. In the end you may help get rid of the problem GM but, someone has to pay for bucking management. Yes, they will be rid of a problem GM at the same time or, she will be improved and not happy with you. The problem GM's staff usually suffers during these soap operas.
Not knowing anything about your new GM's specific situation with upper management will get you blind sided. Unless you are reporting an "egregious violation" of company policy, or state\federal employment law. And her replacement may well be fully informed about your actions and not care for an employee like that.
Stop exposing yourself until you know much more about your GM's situation with the company. Management protects the company first. They can get more associates.
I suspect with your work schedule, you are far into sleep debt, and it's effecting your usual excellent analytical reasoning and self control. You will just get pooped on in this kind of soap opera in that state.
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Short version...
Store has a new GM... Useless as fawk... Doesn't even do daily's... Much less ordering...
Store does not have an assistant manager and prolly will not for the rest of the month...
Here I am "Senior Sales Associate" killing himself keeping the store afloat... And the only real assistance I'm getting is from another GM from another site...
Territory Rep doesn't give two sheets and Region, Rep well doesn't pick up or seem to know athe phone has been invented... The only shread of investigation is from loss control folks I contacted but there is little they can do unless there's a catestrophic # problem...
I should probably stop doing what I'm doing but not when the jobs and livelyhoods of my co-workers may be jepordized!
I don't know what to do anymore, I'm at a total loss...
The answer is simple.
When nobody is looking. Shove the new GM into the trash compactor, press the button and sit back and wait for a new GM
Sheesh. Jersey guys gotta teach you folk everything? ;)
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Update...
Good news:
1) Company ordered a Senior Territory Rep and a Regional Rep from a different market to investigate not only the territory but the entire region as a whole with the sent Territory Rep to directly investigate the happenings of my store...
2) Redtape has been thrown out and instead of waiting until the beginning of next month an Assistant Manager will be appointed to my store immediately so I can expect within the week...
Bad News:
1) Because of the hurry up with the Assistant Manager they transfered 1 associate to make room for hours for the incoming Assistant Manager which now makes me down another Associate. "-1"
2) An associate unfortunately got hit by a car while riding his bike home which sadly puts me down one more associate... "why not keep the transfered associate" Answer is that the company just took them out of the system and will not put them back in if they choose to return to my store until Friday of next week.
So... Now that means all-in-all I'm down 3 associates and a Assistant Manager - however I can hopefully expect the Assistant Manager and Associate positions to be filled early in the week if the company pushed the re-transfer... And I would believe the new hiring will be done by the visiting Marketing Rep and not the useless GM.
I'm tired as fawk...
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Update...
Good news:
1) Company ordered a Senior Territory Rep and a Regional Rep from a different market to investigate not only the territory but the entire region as a whole with the sent Territory Rep to directly investigate the happenings of my store...
2) Redtape has been thrown out and instead of waiting until the beginning of next month an Assistant Manager will be appointed to my store immediately so I can expect within the week...
Bad News:
1) Because of the hurry up with the Assistant Manager they transfered 1 associate to make room for hours for the incoming Assistant Manager which now makes me down another Associate. "-1"
2) An associate unfortunately got hit by a car while riding his bike home which sadly puts me down one more associate... "why not keep the transfered associate" Answer is that the company just took them out of the system and will not put them back in if they choose to return to my store until Friday of next week.
So... Now that means all-in-all I'm down 3 associates and a Assistant Manager - however I can hopefully expect the Assistant Manager and Associate positions to be filled early in the week if the company pushed the re-transfer... And I would believe the new hiring will be done by the visiting Marketing Rep and not the useless GM.
I'm tired as fawk...
Much easier my way
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Sorry about your situation. I have problems with one of our operators at work, I threw a wrench at him today.
I don't expect him to improve now, but it felt nice.
Hang in there sir.
<S>
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Hehehe watching them drop like flies... Kinda...
Regional Rep has been demoted and being shipped off up north to a New Jersey market...
Marketing Rep has been fired by HR
GM has been fired by HR
Visiting Marketing Rep has now assumed role of GM until he gets another GM or someone into proper M-in-T
And my territory will get a Territory Rep from Jersey to fix this mess while the now demoted Regional Rep prolly takes the place. Unless he walks of course...
Dunno don't care what will happen to the Regional Rep position.
As far as I know the Visiting Marketing Rep will order adjacent GMs of the area to pitch in getting my store back on track and staffed to what we need...
Few more weeks of probable crap but at least the worst is over.... for now...
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I hope you get a chance to move up when the dust settles