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Title: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Randy1 on February 06, 2015, 09:31:05 PM
Twice I have PM'd someone who picked me as a compliment.  Both seemed to be offended. They caught me with a SA loss and that was well played by them.  These are both good players and good guys.

I pick any chance I get, and especially when I am trying to clear a green's six.

I have never heard someone say on Vox, "I'm not going to kill that plane because it would be a pick."

A WAG would say Picking makes up 60-70% of the fighter kills.

A good pick is a good kill and nothing to be ashamed of in AH.
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Arlo on February 06, 2015, 09:39:45 PM
I won't disagree. It's rather refreshing to see someone take responsibility for their own losses as well as their own wins. If everyone in AH did that this forum (and game vox) would mature to the point of surreality.

 :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: ink on February 06, 2015, 09:42:55 PM
they most likely thought you were being sarcastic.


a pick is just that a pick...nothing special, someone wasn't paying attention...their fault...few can look at a situation and see their own fault in it, most instantly blame anyone else but them selves.


when you enter the MA...there should be a warning that pops up....

this is a no holds barred arena...you will get picked..HOed...Vulched...gang ed......fly at your own risk.


saying that....

I do believe that you should fly how ever you want...

but dont get mad when you become known for your actions.

(not saying anything about you randy on that last part....but if someone picks all the time and then complains about getting picked  :rolleyes:
or says they are fighters....and all they do is gang....)

people will know you by your actions....


Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Wizz on February 06, 2015, 09:52:52 PM
If someone holds themselves to a higher standard so be it. A kill is a kill. You MUST invest a considerable amount of time both long term and just in a single sortie in order to set yourself up for success and if shot down a lot of times it angers players including myself. It's to be expected and I don't lose sleep whenever I'm called out for how I play. Whatever it takes before someone else gets the kill.
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: ink on February 06, 2015, 09:56:45 PM
If someone holds themselves to a higher standard so be it. A kill is a kill. You MUST invest a considerable amount of time both long term and just in a single sortie in order to set yourself up for success and if shot down a lot of times it angers players including myself. It's to be expected and I don't lose sleep whenever I'm called out for how I play. Whatever it takes before someone else gets the kill.

I humbly have to disagree....

a vulch kill is not the same thing as an earned kill...a pick is slightly more difficult then a vulch....

nether are no where near as worthy or satisfying as a kill at a numerical disadvantage.

IMO 
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: DmonSlyr on February 06, 2015, 09:58:27 PM
they most likely thought you were being sarcastic.


a pick is just that a pick...nothing special, someone wasn't paying attention...their fault...few can look at a situation and see their own fault in it, most instantly blame anyone else but them selves.


when you enter the MA...there should be a warning that pops up....

this is a no holds barred arena...you will get picked..HOed...Vulched...gang ed......fly at your own risk.


saying that....

I do believe that you should fly how ever you want...

but dont get mad when you become known for your actions.

(not saying anything about you randy on that last part....but if someone picks all the time and then complains about getting picked  :rolleyes:
or says they are fighters....and all they do is gang....)

people will know you by your actions....




Yeah like ink said, it is not "special" by any means. And in the MA there simply is no mercy for flying. It is just another way to get a kill when you have the chance. Being a good picker is a skill for getting quick kills and being in the right spot. Take messiah for example, or jayro, these two are atrocious pickers, and will snap you quickly as you are just about to kill the guy you are shooting.  But they are actually pretty good fighters. Everyone picks, end of story. I even think I'm a pretty big picker. It is hard not to be. And constituting a defined pick could be argued in terms of perception and judgement.
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: guncrasher on February 06, 2015, 10:10:06 PM
I humbly have to disagree....

a vulch kill is not the same thing as an earned kill...a pick is slightly more difficult then a vulch....

nether are no where near as worthy or satisfying as a kill at a numerical disadvantage.

IMO 

totally disagree,  the other day I vulched several planes with full ack up and werbies on the base.   I was in a 262.  That requires skill.  either that or stupidity.


semp
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: ink on February 06, 2015, 10:20:21 PM
totally disagree,  the other day I vulched several planes with full ack up and werbies on the base.   I was in a 262.  That requires skill.  either that or stupidity.


semp

haha come on...its a game nothing stupid about it...its fun to zip around in a 262 at least if you are braving the ack there is some danger in losing it.... :aok

personally I like TnB in the 262 :D
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Oldman731 on February 06, 2015, 10:38:41 PM
A kill is a kill.


Reasonable minds have disagreed on this since these games were first invented.

- oldman
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Arlo on February 07, 2015, 07:04:35 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Tkaybu-NAoI/UEZxdG1xd_I/AAAAAAAAAfY/XpM9Bw9vHko/s1600/mindfulness.gif)

 :D

The sheep herd psalm

Yeah though I fly through the low alt valleys of the furball
I will fear no picker for my situational awareness is awesome
And my wingman watches over me, giving me check sixes
My energy not waneth and my ammo load is plentiful
I seldom confuse my rod for my staff and, as such, am blessed
Lawd, just give me lotsa kills before I tower

A man
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Changeup on February 07, 2015, 09:03:39 AM
The 1st "palm" of AH

"So seek to care less than thine enemy about your toon demise for caring more is surely the way of the wicked;  and the wicked will have no shelter from thine squeekers, pickers, HOers, vulchers and dumbmagnets"
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: The Fugitive on February 07, 2015, 09:13:07 AM
Twice I have PM'd someone who picked me as a compliment.  Both seemed to be offended. They caught me with a SA loss and that was well played by them.  These are both good players and good guys.

I pick any chance I get, and especially when I am trying to clear a green's six.

I have never heard someone say on Vox, "I'm not going to kill that plane because it would be a pick."

A WAG would say Picking makes up 60-70% of the fighter kills.

A good pick is a good kill and nothing to be ashamed of in AH.

The problem I have with picks is say Im busy fighting 2 or 3 and another yahoo comes in and picks me while Im busy. I feel the that the 3rd, 4th, or 5th guy in should have the class/honor to stay out of a fight that is already a gang fest. At this point yes I think a "pick" is as bad as a HO.

Saying that your not going to find very many who won't jump in in that situation, but that just speaks of the game play we enjoy these days.
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Latrobe on February 07, 2015, 10:19:46 AM
I actually prefer it when people try to gang/pick me, though I've been told that I'm special  ;)  1v1's are boring, 10v1's is where the real fun is at!  :devil

Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: waystin2 on February 07, 2015, 11:51:06 AM
If you were truly friendly in your PM, then they were probably from the shallow end of the gene pool.  There are tons of awesome folks here.  Shake off the rude folks and invest your time in the great ones! :aok
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: BaldEagl on February 07, 2015, 12:31:10 PM
Why would you think a good player would take a salute over something as mind numbingly simple as a pick as anything other than an insult?
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: USRanger on February 07, 2015, 01:39:51 PM
There is nothing wrong with clearing a friendly's six.  I don't know who ever got everyone thinking it is such a horrible, no-skill blah blah thing.  It's called teamwork.  Some may need to google the term.
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: JunkyII on February 07, 2015, 02:20:41 PM
I have a film of Krupnski and I in 4 Hogs. Together we landed 13 scalps between the both of us...a person called us "picktards" on 200. So we followed that run up with LA7s, where we landed another 13 kills, the LA run was me NOE going into the base with Krup in trail at maybe 1K.

What they were calling "picking" was Krup and I working together against a bigger force....most of the time them with alt.

Plane gets on Krup, Junky clears Krup, plane gets on Junky, Krup clears Junky, Junky ropes 3, Krup kills three.....

The pattern continues, there is a very clear difference in planes working well together and the "Lamer" pick.

Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Guppy35 on February 07, 2015, 03:25:30 PM
In my mind it comes down to the circumstance of the pick.   If you are tangling with a guy one on one and another bird, either on your team or the other guys team drops in and picks, I'm not impressed.  Someone else has done all the work.

If 2-3 guys are mugging a single and that guys teammate drops in to help him, so be it.

Sometimes it's fun to go trolling for high guys trying to suck them down and see if I can frustrate them enough to end up tangling on the deck.  More often then not I end up a scattering of cartoon plane parts but it's fun nonetheless.

People fly like they want to.  As long as I'm not really dying it just doesn't matter :)
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: ink on February 07, 2015, 03:40:14 PM
its the MA....

everything goes...

you can not get angry at someone for picking you...not even in a 1vs1.....

someone once said "if you are in a 1vs1 in the MA your SA has failed"  Del maybe.....


I agree 100%  that does not mean I will pick a 1vs1 cause I don't....unless the friendly calls for help....then I will...unless of course that said friendly is on the list...then I leave him to die.... :t





Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: helbent on February 07, 2015, 07:07:27 PM
Darnit, I thought this thread was going to be a four letter word competition.  Could have been instructive.

Crap

 :bolt:
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Lazerr on February 07, 2015, 08:05:53 PM
Everyone picks, gets picked.. Ho's and gets Ho'd, etc... Just have fun,  and when you're not having fun,  log and try again later. :cheers:
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: BaldEagl on February 07, 2015, 08:18:53 PM
Crap

You win!
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: PR3D4TOR on February 07, 2015, 09:01:46 PM
I rarely get picked, but when I do it is entirely my own fault.
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Dragon Tamer on February 07, 2015, 09:13:56 PM
I don't care if you pick me off of someone's six, just don't salute me like you did all the work and don't boast about how awesome of a player you think you are.
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: guncrasher on February 07, 2015, 09:26:37 PM
I don't care if you pick me off of someone's six, just don't salute me like you did all the work and don't boast about how awesome of a player you think you are.

you salute a player not because of how great a kill you got, but you salute the other player because he did his best to avoid giving an easy kill.  you also salute  when you lost but you know the other did his best to get you down.

semp
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Scca on February 09, 2015, 12:14:09 PM
Given the level of bravado in this game, sending someone a "nice pick" message, will be instantly construed as a negative comment. 

One squad night a few weeks back, I got a PM "every time I get killed by one of you guys it's a pick".  I didn't reply, but in my head I thought, "good". 

First, it's his poor SA that kept him from seeing the impending doom. Second, I encourage my guys to fly in wing pairs.  It improves SA, and provides mutual protection.  We get a lot of kills that way because of reason 1...

Sadly, today's society is increasingly wired to instantly blame someone else for their failings. I think it's the "not my fault" generation.  I could go on, but risk a ping so  :bolt:
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: LilMak on February 10, 2015, 01:18:42 PM
"Nice Pick" is generally construed as sarcasm. Unfortunately sarcasm is lost in text form.

Forgive me for being so bold but I think remember the instance your're talking about and, as memory serves, what happened wasn't exactly what I would consider a pick. From my point of view, I caught you on the top of a zoom with a furball well below you. You were far removed from any type of fight and were neither in danger of losing a hard fought kill or otherwise engaged with any con within 1.5 icon range except me. You have my respect and admiration Randy1. You're one of the good guys IMO and please don't take any response to your PM as anything more than a misunderstanding. I don't favor myself as a picker in 90% of MA encounters and will, often to my own demise, avoid being the guy that ruined a fight or was #2-10 in line on some poor guys six.

 :salute
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Jakatak on February 10, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
I'm new to AH, 2 months now. I didn't know there was a name for what I was doing to all my team mates. "Picking"   :uhoh  Just to be sure, picking is "poaching" a friendlies "soon to be" kill right?  :joystick:  I'm a uber newbie though. As soon as i see enemy icons, im nose on. :airplane:

 
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Scca on February 10, 2015, 02:17:19 PM
I'm new to AH, 2 months now. I didn't know there was a name for what I was doing to all my team mates. "Picking"   :uhoh  Just to be sure, picking is "poaching" a friendlies "soon to be" kill right?  :joystick:  I'm a uber newbie though. As soon as i see enemy icons, im nose on. :airplane:

 
Nope...  Picking is shooting a bad guy that's chasing a good guy.  The idea is you "picked" him off a good guy.  It's a term that's normally used by the victim as a way of explaining away their lack of situational awareness. 
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: GhostCDB on February 10, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
Love. I win
Title: Re: "Pick" A four Letter Word
Post by: Randy1 on February 10, 2015, 02:18:26 PM
"Nice Pick" is generally construed as sarcasm. Unfortunately sarcasm is lost in text form.

Forgive me for being so bold but I think remember the instance your're talking about and, as memory serves, what happened wasn't exactly what I would consider a pick. From my point of view, I caught you on the top of a zoom with a furball well below you. . . .
 :salute

You might well be right.  I had just picked a red off a green and I do think it would have been at the top of a zoom after shooting down the red.  You were perfectly right in taking that shot.  

The 47 is a super plane and you are its master.  Not many people can say that. :salute