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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lunatic1 on January 22, 2016, 11:24:33 AM
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it's not really funny when a player can continue to fly thru a airfield small medium or large, taking out guns without taking a hit I watched a 190A8 at A111 on FesterMA do just that only reason he crashed he compressed coming back down--he flys thru the the ack like it wasen't there. just I know that when I fly through the ack even on a small air field I get torn to pieces.
I don't know if country player count or if a country that has more wins or what that makes them somewhat invulnerable. when a plane can make 3 or 4 passes thru the ack and not get destroyed something is not right-yes I am a Knight-and we Knights see it all the time.
I'm not really trying to make a rant-just sayin
I hope the ack on AH3 is more accurate
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it's not really funny when a player can continue to fly thru a airfield small medium or large, taking out guns without taking a hit I watched a 190A8 at A111 on FesterMA do just that only reason he crashed he compressed coming back down--he flys thru the the ack like it wasen't there. just I know that when I fly through the ack even on a small air field I get torn to pieces.
I don't know if country player count or if a country that has more wins or what that makes them somewhat invulnerable. when a plane can make 3 or 4 passes thru the ack and not get destroyed something is not right-yes I am a Knight-and we Knights see it all the time.
I'm not really trying to make a rant-just sayin
I hope the ack on AH3 is more accurate
There's no magic to it. If you want to avoid field ack, keep it fast and be constantly losing altitude while you do it, and you won't get hit much if ever. If you have to go level or up, be jinking every couple seconds.
Same as with anything else shooting at you, after they fire you need to get out of the spot they're aiming for.
Wiley.
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I hate to put it this way lunatic1, but it's just dumb luck. When 1/2 or better of the population in an arena is comprised of folks who have severe in-game suicidal tendencies... someone is going to finally figure out that occasionally, you can run around in ack and accomplish your goal at very very very little cost. Eventually, someone is going to realize that ack doesn't ALWAYS tear you to pieces. Gosh, sometimes, you can run around in field ack for quite a long time and take little or no damage. I mean, eventually it's going to get you but, there's always that chance.
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I hope nobody seriously thinks there is any kind of bias built into the game to give one side or the other better odds at evading the auto-ack...
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Based on what HiTech has said, there's two reasons why they guy wasn't hit by the ack. The first is skill. The ack can calculate the path of a plane flying according to a mathematical formula. That means both straight lines and parabolic curves. You know, y=ax or y=ax˛ and such. Even a slight aberrance from the pattern will cause the AI redo all its calculations, causing it to miss.
The second reason is luck.
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What's luck in a computer game? At least for AI guns.
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What's luck in a computer game? At least for AI guns.
Happening to make the right move at the right time. Personally, I can't judge when to jink for every single gun firing at me on an airfield, but jinking on the way in and more importantly on the way out at ground level means there's an element of luck to avoiding a round I don't happen to see coming in.
Wiley.
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It may be luck when you chose to jink, but it is the jink that causes the miss. Therefore only one reason. To say there is luck in the AI missing is to imply it is programmed in.
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The auto guns adjust. The so called "fast shooters" seem to shoot in 4 round burst.
If you know how the guns are laid out on the field and you know which guns shoot fast vs. slow, you can easily de-ack a field with no damage. Same applies to ports, V Bases, and towns.
I can effectively (and usually without damage) deack a V base in 2 passes. 4 guns in run #1 and final 2 guns on run #2. It truly is about knowing where they are and how they behave.
Luck is a part of it also.
It does take training. You have to practice and practice, and practice to get it down to a science.
I rarely survive passes over medium and large fields. I can get through small airfields about 50% of the time.
I am about 90% effective on towns, ports, and v-bases in getting through deacking without getting damaged. But I haven't really practiced deacking airfields. No real reason for me to do so.
Hope this helps...
:rock
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It may be luck when you chose to jink, but it is the jink that causes the miss. Therefore only one reason. To say there is luck in the AI missing is to imply it is programmed in.
There is a random dispersion cone in the aiming.
HiTech
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Ah, so there is the luck. :salute
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Lunatic...the field ack in AH3 is pure hell....why haven't you found out on your own?
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Ah, so there is the luck. :salute
It shows you haven't been around as long as I, learning takes its time...
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And yes, I noticed there's only half a year between us two :t :salute :cheers:
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Hehe, I know even far less than what my time on the BBS may indicate.
I was mostly just messing with the way you worded your post. Some people may interpret "luck" as being something outside the program itself. If you would of said the second reason is due to random dispersion in the aiming generated by the code, I wouldn't of said a thing. Truly all in fun, it is Friday after all. :cheers:
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Hehe, I know even far less than what my time on the BBS may indicate.
I was mostly just messing with the way you worded your post. Some people may interpret "luck" as being something outside the program itself. If you would of said the second reason is due to random dispersion in the aiming generated by the code, I wouldn't of said a thing. Truly all in fun, it is Friday after all. :cheers:
I know many people claim I wrote bad luck into just there version of the game.:)
And I had totally missed your joke the first time around:) I probably did because of all the probability theory courses I was lucky enough to take in collage.
HiTech
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Oh yes? Yet another bug making fun of a non-English speaker, huh?!?
Ducking a random dispersion cone is luck to me. :cheers:
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That is luck to me also but to just say luck in that situation is so loosely defined it invites people to use their imagination. I wasn't really making fun of you, I was more using you to make fun of the crazy people out there.
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I know many people claim I wrote bad luck into just there version of the game.:)
HiTech
I know my version has bad luck programmed into it. Every %^*!& damn time I'm wounded and I get ten feet from landing on that runway I freaking black-out! :D
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I wasn't really making fun of you, I was more using you to make fun of the crazy people out there.
Don't feel ashamed, I was just teasing you...
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So it's logical to surmise that if you practice enough to be able to destroy the ack gun from far enough away, the cone of dispersion will be large enough to make it seem like you are impervious to the ack. If you have to get real close in order to hit it, chances are it will hit you too.
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Don't feel ashamed, I was just teasing you...
That's mean.
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I know my version has bad luck programmed into it. Every %^*!& damn time I'm wounded and I get ten feet from landing on that runway I freaking black-out! :D
I'm of the opinion (I don't expect an actual answer, HT) that there's some kind of blackout that detects landings. It also seems able to detect when you are gaining on someone and about to get a shot in a rolling scissor. Not sure how it figures it out with enough time for my screen to just go black when I am getting ready to line up for the shot, but it seems to work amazingly well. :D
Wiley.
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How about how Bishop tanks are immune to opposing fire? :x :bolt:
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I've never had luck with ack. I can't get close to a cv while I see planes fly through the cv and come out alive. Also same thing with base and town ack.....just my luck I guess. Even if I try and trick the ack I still get shot. Also I guess it's because I fly the F4U-1 which is a big plane and bold target.
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I know my version has bad luck programmed into it. Every %^*!& damn time I'm wounded and I get ten feet from landing on that runway I freaking black-out! :D
Suspicious... Me too!!!!!!!
Practice landing with my eyes closed now! :devil
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I know my version has bad luck programmed into it. Every %^*!& damn time I'm wounded and I get ten feet from landing on that runway I freaking black-out! :D
WHAT? You don't know the simple trick of using auto speed and throttle to get your auto landing set up?
HiTech
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Oh what the heck, now I can't gripe about that. And no I didn't know about that. Throwing simple in there was just mean. :)
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Oh what the heck, now I can't gripe about that. And no I didn't know about that. Throwing simple in there was just mean. :)
Simple deserved it.
HiTech
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I've never had luck with ack. I can't get close to a cv while I see planes fly through the cv and come out alive. Also same thing with base and town ack.....just my luck I guess. Even if I try and trick the ack I still get shot. Also I guess it's because I fly the F4U-1 which is a big plane and bold target.
So true. My tinfoil Mustang gets oiled from max range even at 25,000'. Ping ping. Oiled.
:furious
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Say a prayer to RNGesus and fly on.
RNGesus be praised.
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fly a 190F8 that thing takes alot of damage but then again low and fast ya can avoided alot of guns until your out of range to climb up and repeat
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Rockets fired from 5-8 k away and above help as well.... :airplane:
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How about how Bishop tanks are immune to opposing fire? :x :bolt:
Dang I must have missed that technique in the Bish briefing, mine usually dies on the first hit. :(
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Try out the Beta. The ack lethality in there is off the charts. 1 hit and your plane falls apart. Should make for much more interesting deacking attempts.
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That's mean.
Sorry, sometimes I just have to. Nothing personal, nothing evil. Just my dark side.
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Lunatic...the field ack in AH3 is pure hell....why haven't you found out on your own?
because my puter won't play AH3-already tried.
so when AH3 comes i'll have to quit-unless I win the lottery I can't afford a new computer.
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Lunatic, can't remember if it has been addressed before, but is your computer beyond inexpensive upgrade options?