General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Dundee on February 02, 2016, 09:26:18 PM
Title: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: Dundee on February 02, 2016, 09:26:18 PM
Salute :salute, The 49th Fighter Group will be hosting another MEGA Mission that will appeal to many more players because we will not be using “Perk Birds” like the B-29’s we used in the last mission. The 49th will do the next mission with Lancaster’s. Knowing the Avro Lancaster defensive guns are lacking, we are adding the B-17 YB40 Gunship to the mission to add some defensive firepower. This will be done using B-17s with a 4K bomb load and an RAF skin. Details about the mission will be forthcoming; it is still in the planning stages. Those who were on the last mission will tell you a lot of planning went into that mission…….and it will go into this mission as well. Players wishing to be added to the mission and receive the orders plus any updates need to send an email to the49thfg@gmail.com please include your Aces High Game ID in the email.
<S> Salute :salute 49Dundee 49th Fighter Group, XO
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: Vudak on February 02, 2016, 09:28:08 PM
Sounds like fun, I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for doing this :aok :salute
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: Molsman on February 02, 2016, 09:48:46 PM
oh 25 beers or not I will be hunting you guys this time
<S>
:devil :devil :devil
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: scott66 on February 02, 2016, 10:20:57 PM
In :salute
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 02, 2016, 10:48:46 PM
To keep a bit of realism, don't have the B-17s use a RAF skin, keep it a USAAF skin and they can't drop their bombs to keep the extra weight to simulate the heaviness of the YB40..
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: Wizz on February 03, 2016, 12:54:16 AM
Just a friendly tip to anyone considering flying the gunships
Fly 17's 25-50% fuel and defend bases under attack or even into furballs. Your not going to survive most of the time especially if your graphics card lacks but it will sharpen your gunnery skills a lot between now and the mission. Obviously your score will take a hit but if your playing for score you shouldn't need the practice. :neener:
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: Wizz on February 03, 2016, 01:14:22 AM
To keep a bit of realism, don't have the B-17s use a RAF skin, keep it a USAAF skin and they can't drop their bombs to keep the extra weight to simulate the heaviness of the YB40..
I like the idea but didn't that extra weight come from armor and firepower that the 17G does not posses?
If im not mistaken the YB40 was used because escort fighters couldnt make the full trip and the 17F's didnt have the firepower to counter the Luftwaffe's deadly head on attacks aimed at killing the pilots. The idea was to throw up a wall of lead which had mixed results.
In this case the mission wont be historically accurate from the start but thats not the point. With all of the variables and options in this game you cant expect the opposing side to be "historically" accurate and I dont see the 17's holding their ords on this run. It will effect the climb rate as it should!
I do wish this game had YB40's though.That would be horrific lol
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: waystin2 on February 03, 2016, 07:34:40 AM
I like the idea but didn't that extra weight come from armor and firepower that the 17G does not posses?
The bomb load would simulate that weight. The main reason why the YB40 was a failure was that it was too heavy and couldn't keep up with the regular bombers after the bombs were dropped.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: 49Dallas on February 03, 2016, 01:16:20 PM
To keep a bit of realism, don't have the B-17s use a RAF skin, keep it a USAAF skin and they can't drop their bombs to keep the extra weight to simulate the heaviness of the YB40..
Since we can't substitute our extra armor and guns, W'll just substitute it with bombs. Lots of bombs.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: hgtonyvi on February 03, 2016, 02:17:47 PM
Let me guess.......this mission will be at 30k-40k right?
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: 49MERLIN on February 03, 2016, 02:22:14 PM
Salute, The B-17s which will be used in the mission are there to act as gunships for the mission. They may carry bombs, they may not. I would like them to be in the Lancaster RAF looking skin so that it may be harder to tell Lanc from Fortress. I know this sounds dumb considering the red icon and all, but it has seemed to be a somewhat effective approach in the past. As far as accurate weights for guns and armor in a YB-40 are concerned, I'm not concerned at all. I'm about as concerned with that as I am that the Bish & Knits will launch only German aircraft against us. As realistic as possibly means just that. There are only a few things that players can control in the MA and making sure everyone is being realistic, not shading, and not greifing are not some of them! I can ONLY ask that if you wish to participate you bring what the mission calls for, or if you wish to intercept that you do it in such a way as to bring an appropriate aircraft and give us a chance to get to 10K. Everyone reading this knows that there is at least one troll salamander who will intentionally do the opposite of what is asked; so there ya go. The B-17s are there to act as gunship protection for the under gunned Lancs. They may also drop some bombs. "Why would they drop bombs and act like a B-17?" you ask, same reason they are not armored and heavily gunned, because they are not YB-40s. Because they may need to drop some ords. Because I cannot guarantee that they will be intercepted by three times the actual war production outputs of the Me-262 & Me-163. I hope this will squash the YB-40 questions in this thread. If you would like the mission to be more realistic, please join me in lobbying HTC to add the YB-40 to the game.
JOIN the mission if you can, 49MERLIN 49thFG/CO
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: BowHTR on February 03, 2016, 02:36:43 PM
Good luck with the "wait till we're at 10K" and "bring an appropriate aircraft" portion. You can't expect people in the main arena to conform to your mission standards before they attack you.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: 49MERLIN on February 03, 2016, 02:51:13 PM
Good luck with the "wait till we're at 10K" and "bring an appropriate aircraft" portion. You can't expect people in the main arena to conform to your mission standards before they attack you.
Duh, I just wrote that. Look up.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: czpilot on February 03, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
Not sure if someone already posted any screens from B-29 raid ? Here is a few of mine: http://forum.virtualfighters.cz/app.php/gallery/album/15 (http://forum.virtualfighters.cz/app.php/gallery/album/15) I hope to join Lancaster raid too, although it is too early of my time.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: BowHTR on February 03, 2016, 03:04:35 PM
I can ONLY ask that if you wish to participate you bring what the mission calls for, or if you wish to intercept that you do it in such a way as to bring an appropriate aircraft and give us a chance to get to 10K.
Good luck with the "wait till we're at 10K" and "bring an appropriate aircraft" portion. You can't expect people in the main arena to conform to your mission standards before they attack you.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: icepac on February 03, 2016, 05:24:02 PM
There will be quite a few of us waiting for the impatient weasels who can't wait for the mission to come to them.
Expect planes that will outturn ta152s.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: Dundee on February 03, 2016, 05:53:22 PM
Not sure if someone already posted any screens from B-29 raid ? Here is a few of mine: http://forum.virtualfighters.cz/app.php/gallery/album/15 (http://forum.virtualfighters.cz/app.php/gallery/album/15) I hope to join Lancaster raid too, although it is too early of my time.
Hey CZPilot, thanks for posting mission pictures :salute
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: waystin2 on February 03, 2016, 06:03:25 PM
You just figured it out? we do the mission on the Friday FSO is not scheduled ...............brilliant :aok
FYI: You might want to look at the February FSO schedule before stating what people have and haven't figured out, lest your attempt to make someone look foolish has an undesired effect. :aok
February FSO schedule: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,377409.0.html
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: guncrasher on February 03, 2016, 06:55:50 PM
I'll be flying a pony or a p47 that were captured by the germans.
semp
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: Dundee on February 03, 2016, 08:02:30 PM
FYI: You might want to look at the February FSO schedule before stating what people have and haven't figured out, lest your attempt to make someone look foolish has an undesired effect. :aok
February FSO schedule: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,377409.0.html [/quot
He made the same comment last month, I guess he didn't know that when there are 4 Fridays in the month, FSO is 1st, 2nd, 3rd Friday.... a month with 5 Fridays FSO is the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Friday.....we run our Mega Mission on the last Friday of the month
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: JunkyII on February 03, 2016, 08:16:21 PM
There will be quite a few of us waiting for the impatient weasels who can't wait for the mission to come to them.
Expect planes that will outturn ta152s.
Please bring these birds that out turn TA152s, makes me have to work for a kill...this video is under 10K as well...just wait to see how she performs at 20K+
FYI: You might want to look at the February FSO schedule before stating what people have and haven't figured out, lest your attempt to make someone look foolish has an undesired effect. :aok
February FSO schedule: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,377409.0.html [/quot
He made the same comment last month, I guess he didn't know that when there are 4 Fridays in the month, FSO is 1st, 2nd, 3rd Friday.... a month with 5 Fridays FSO is the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Friday.....we run our Mega Mission on the last Friday of the month
I know what I Said when I posted why Wait til end of the Month there is No FSO this WEEK , you all wanna keep the game alive so why wait til the end of February this month and run a Mission on FSO Night which I know your Squad is involved with unless you Left then I do not Know... :devil :devil :devil :devil :devil :devil
Dundee Would you Like to call me Out again I checked my Post about your Mega Mission for Last Month I said I would be there to Hunt ya,,,,, then followed up with 25 beers later after all the whines about ya going off the Map I wish I was still there to Hunt.
New Mission I said 25 beers or not I will still be there,,,,, February is a Leap year So your Advertising your Next Mission on Feb 26th which is FSO night so you will not have as much players this night as your First Mission that is Why I Said "why Wait" and DO it back to Back so you have the players to join in which would be this Friday night another off Night for FSO... So out of the Whole Month of February the 5th is your Best Bet unless you do not want as many players to change Countries to do this Mission,,,,,,, As an Ex FSO Admin I know your Squad is involved with FSO, so before Calling me out again Check your Facts please.........
I have spoken to your CO numerous times about helping out with plans and all so Consult with him before you Call me out again....... I enjoy this game as much as you guys do but do not like False Statements made against me
<S> Molsman
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: Dundee on February 04, 2016, 03:37:37 AM
The Original Date of the Mega Mission was in conflict with FSO Frame 3 so we pushed the mission back 24hours....and will be held on Saturday Feb. 27th
Please bring these birds that out turn TA152s, makes me have to work for a kill...this video is under 10K as well...just wait to see how she performs at 20K+
Quoted for Truth
Great video. Very nice song.
He should've had you, Especially at 3:00. Who was it and was he using flaps? I'd like to see the .ahf haha.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: JunkyII on February 04, 2016, 04:15:03 PM
He should've had you, Especially at 3:00. Who was it and was he using flaps? I'd like to see the .ahf haha.
Yea both of us had lousy shooting. But him using his flaps actually was what set me up to gain an E advantage...he came in from 15K to my 10ish but he pulled to hard blowing his E while I hid mine from him so I could pull those vertical manuevers....the end is just me knowing how to slow my plane down and handling it.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: icepac on February 04, 2016, 06:14:39 PM
I'd like to see the ta152 match up with the spit 14 in the vert.
I understand the TA152 can come over the top of a loop at 37mph with the rudder not centered without spinning like it's real world counterpart would.
Seems all the "moves" I see from the ta152 exploit a hole in the flight modeling.
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: JunkyII on February 04, 2016, 07:13:02 PM
FYI: You might want to look at the February FSO schedule before stating what people have and haven't figured out, lest your attempt to make someone look foolish has an undesired effect. :aok
February FSO schedule: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,377409.0.html
Thanks for pointing that out.......I always though if there were 4 Fridays the FSO dates were the 1st, 2nd & 3rd Fridays, and if there were 5 Fridays it would be scheduled on 2nd, 3rd, & 4th Fridays. But as you pointed that is not the case.................I'm Just glad that it's not Wednesday cause Micky say's that's "Anything can happen Day" Thanks again Kingpin.. :aok
Title: Re: 49th Fighter Group MEGA Mission for February 26th, 2016
Post by: icepac on February 26, 2016, 08:37:21 PM