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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Latrobe on February 20, 2016, 07:46:52 PM
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So I was having lots of PC troubles. Sony vegas was crashing, Shadowplay recordings were showing up as corrupted, games were not updating correctly, and every fix that I tried was having no effect. I was about to just do a complete fresh install of Win7 and then possibly reformat my Hard Drive if that didn't work but then I remembered I had a free upgrade to try so I thought "What the heck? I'm doing a fresh install anyways might as well see if this works." Upgrading to Win10 fixed everything! No more corrupted shadowplay recordings as well as all the old ones being fixed, games play again, and Sony vegas works again! Whenever my computer does have a problem and crashes then my PC sends data to Microsoft to fix the issue. Transitioning from Win7 to Win10 has also been very painless. Feels just like Win7 but looks a lot better!
Win10 is quite awesome! :aok
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careful latrobe some around these parts will have your head for this sort of talk. :bolt:
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Whenever my computer does have a problem and crashes then my PC sends data to Microsoft to fix the issue. Transitioning from Win7 to Win10 has also been very painless.
It is painless for a reason. But I am okay with 8.1 for now.
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I'm one of the few that has been hit by a bug in Windows 7 that prevents me from updating to Windows 10. From the problems my wife has had with Windows 10, kind of glad I can't upgrade.
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Have you heard that the DoD has ordered that every one of their PCs are to be upgraded to Blowme10?
Skynet is no longer a myth... :noid
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How do I stop Microsoft telling me to upgrade?
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@Latrobe: As far as I understand the upgrade procedure, it's pretty much a "fresh install" which saves your personal data and programs. You might have been able to do the same with your existing Windows 7, "updating" from within Windows to the same version you already had. If your problems were caused by a corrupted OS, that might have done the trick.
But if it works and you're happy, who am I to argue?
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Whenever my computer does have a problem and crashes then my PC sends data to Microsoft to fix the issue.
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Trading one problem for another bigger problem isn't a "fix."
Not knowing it's a problem at the time is not an excuse, especially with all of the warnings on this forum.
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Trading one problem for another bigger problem isn't a "fix."
Not knowing it's a problem at the time is not an excuse, especially with all of the warnings on this forum.
The scale of the problem is subjective, he clearly stated that he is no longer having issues with his OS that he was having before.
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How do I stop Microsoft telling me to upgrade?
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,71591.msg4998528.html#msg4998528
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The scale of the problem is subjective, he clearly stated that he is no longer having issues with his OS that he was having before.
Let me explain this in words everyone can understand. If you have not had a catastrophic event with Windows 10 yet, just wait long enough and you will. If you think you know better, then you're only fooling yourself. You should immediately take measures to prevent permanent loss of any files you hold dear, because disaster is coming.
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windows 10 makes me feel
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So I was having lots of PC troubles. Sony vegas was crashing, Shadowplay recordings were showing up as corrupted, games were not updating correctly, and every fix that I tried was having no effect. I was about to just do a complete fresh install of Win7 and then possibly reformat my Hard Drive if that didn't work but then I remembered I had a free upgrade to try so I thought "What the heck? I'm doing a fresh install anyways might as well see if this works." Upgrading to Win10 fixed everything! No more corrupted shadowplay recordings as well as all the old ones being fixed, games play again, and Sony vegas works again! Whenever my computer does have a problem and crashes then my PC sends data to Microsoft to fix the issue. Transitioning from Win7 to Win10 has also been very painless. Feels just like Win7 but looks a lot better!
Win10 is quite awesome! :aok
Windows 10 rocks......I have it...it looks great and very simply to use....plus it has Cortana and u can crack jokes with her lol....
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Let me explain this in words everyone can understand. If you have not had a catastrophic event with Windows 10 yet, just wait long enough and you will. If you think you know better, then you're only fooling yourself. You should immediately take measures to prevent permanent loss of any files you hold dear, because disaster is coming.
I've been running Win10 on two machines for several months now and haven't had a single issue outside of a few older programs that are no longer compatible. It seems all the catastrophic Win10 events on these forums are yours. Deductive reasoning therefore tells me Win10 isn't the problem.
I didn't use words too big for you did I?
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I've been running Win10 on two machines for several months now and haven't had a single issue outside of a few older programs that are no longer compatible. It seems all the catastrophic Win10 events on these forums are yours. Deductive reasoning therefore tells me Win10 isn't the problem.
I didn't use words too big for you did I?
That is not quite accurate. Even you said you had problems. There are thousands of complaints all over the Internet about problems with Windows 10. Many of them are quite catastrophic. Files disappearing, programs being removed, crashes and lockups. It varies with the updates released.
Even Microsoft has admitted to many problems, saying they are working on them. My favorite problem has been the insider update which broke 90% of the games available for Windows, including ours. Microsoft acknowledged they broke DirectX, before the day they released the update.
Calenges problems are quite common, if you take a look at the bug reports for Windows 10. However, not everyone has the same problems. It seems to be dependent on the hardware and applications installed.
I also think the problems the original poster had with Windows 7 is likely to follow him to Windows 10, in time as any fresh installation of a Windows operating system tends to correct problems created over time.
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I also think the problems the original poster had with Windows 7 is likely to follow him to Windows 10, in time as any fresh installation of a Windows operating system tends to correct problems created over time.
I may be wrong here, but I'm in the belief that the Windows files actually get installed fresh both in upgrading to 10 and in "updating" 7 to itself which is a proven method for fixing corrupted system settings. Thus chances are that the upgrade really fixed something.
However, if there's been something fishy in his Appdata or browser add-ons, the problems may very well resurrect.
And of course a clean install is always the best way to get rid of any bugs and dead weight.
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I may be wrong here, but I'm in the belief that the Windows files actually get installed fresh both in upgrading to 10 and in "updating" 7 to itself which is a proven method for fixing corrupted system settings. Thus chances are that the upgrade really fixed something.
However, if there's been something fishy in his Appdata or browser add-ons, the problems may very well resurrect.
And of course a clean install is always the best way to get rid of any bugs and dead weight.
Yes, but there is a very good chance whatever caused the corruption, to begin with, will happen again. Data corruption does not magically go away when you replace the corrupted file with a good file. Whatever caused that corruption probably still exists.
In other words, there is a good chance he has masked the problem and not really fixed it.
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What I find fascinating is that the same people that have taken the role of peripheral device, rather than operator, are the same people that claim their systems are having no issues. I would argue that a game console is not a computer despite having all of the elements that define a 'computer,' because those systems are closed and not open to the same evolving environments that content creators, developers, and researchers are engaged with. In reality though, it is the 'console' systems that are more at risk because those operators are most likely to risk their systems by opening unsolicited emails, visiting infected websites, and otherwise engaging in unwise activities.
That's how someone like myself that uses simple creation-type programs can get 'hit' by an update by an official source and then somehow its my fault.
@baudeagle: No, you're incapable of that.
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Skuzzy posted this freeware tool for disabling the update to Windows10 icon & screen pop-up
There is a tool GWX Control Panel url link: -->(http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-remove.html) you can install which should help you take control of your computer again. All reviews/remarks about this program seem to indicate it is safe to install. For those of you who do not want to delve into the guts of Windows to stop the nagware, this could be a safe alternative.
I have used it on 3 computers, it not only disables the windows 10 upgrade pop-up, it removes any and all windows 10 related kbxxxxx files, along with any other windows 10 needed or related files or updates.....
I recommend it, it offers a lot of options, besides just the win10 upgrade icon/popup box
TC
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What I find fascinating is that the same people that have taken the role of peripheral device, rather than operator, are the same people that claim their systems are having no issues. I would argue that a game console is not a computer despite having all of the elements that define a 'computer,' because those systems are closed and not open to the same evolving environments that content creators, developers, and researchers are engaged with. In reality though, it is the 'console' systems that are more at risk because those operators are most likely to risk their systems by opening unsolicited emails, visiting infected websites, and otherwise engaging in unwise activities.
That's how someone like myself that uses simple creation-type programs can get 'hit' by an update by an official source and then somehow its my fault.
@baudeagle: No, you're incapable of that.
But did you try turning it off and back on?
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Wasn't there also very negative things being said about Windows 7 when it first came out, and what operating system are all of you guys using? I think that given time, the walls in your brains will fall down, you will succumb to Windows 10, realize how much better it operates, and then complain about Windows 11.
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That is not quite accurate. Even you said you had problems. There are thousands of complaints all over the Internet about problems with Windows 10. Many of them are quite catastrophic. Files disappearing, programs being removed, crashes and lockups. It varies with the updates released.
Even Microsoft has admitted to many problems, saying they are working on them. My favorite problem has been the insider update which broke 90% of the games available for Windows, including ours. Microsoft acknowledged they broke DirectX, before the day they released the update.
Calenges problems are quite common, if you take a look at the bug reports for Windows 10. However, not everyone has the same problems. It seems to be dependent on the hardware and applications installed.
I also think the problems the original poster had with Windows 7 is likely to follow him to Windows 10, in time as any fresh installation of a Windows operating system tends to correct problems created over time.
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Wasn't there also very negative things being said about Windows 7 when it first came out, and what operating system are all of you guys using? I think that given time, the walls in your brains will fall down, you will succumb to Windows 10, realize how much better it operates, and then complain about Windows 11.
There will never be a Windows 11, which is why I can say what I did about it only being a matter of time.
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Wasn't there also very negative things being said about Windows 7 when it first came out, and what operating system are all of you guys using? I think that given time, the walls in your brains will fall down, you will succumb to Windows 10, realize how much better it operates, and then complain about Windows 11.
Every flavour of Windows has had major issues during the first couple of years until the first Service Pack has been released and patched. Even the less successful versions like Vista matured to somewhat stable with the SP's.
However, as Chalenge said, 10 will probably be the last Windows which means it'll never reach maturity. It'll be a constant work in progress, kind of a public Beta without any official Beta label on it. New features will be installed for testing without warning, gained stability will be sacrificed whenever the designers want some novelty be largely tested by the users. Only the Enterprise users can postpone updates to allow Home users do the dirty job as guinea pigs.
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Wasn't there also very negative things being said about Windows 7 when it first came out, and what operating system are all of you guys using? I think that given time, the walls in your brains will fall down, you will succumb to Windows 10, realize how much better it operates, and then complain about Windows 11.
Yes, and there were serious problems with Windows 7 when it was introduced. There are still problems with Windows 7, but not as many as with Windows 10.
One of the many issues I have with Windows 10 is the inability to block updates. Microsoft has a proven track record of breaking things with updates and taking up to weeks to correct it. There have a been a few updates which actually bricked computers.
With Windows 7, you can wait and see what happens with an update before deciding to do it. You can also ignore the update if it is something which could impact the way you use your computer.
I also see nothing in Windows 10 which would make what I do with my computer any better. Actually, it would impede the work I have to do. So for me, there is no reason to upgrade and risk the stability problems which do plague Windows 10, right now.
Today, there are people who have no problems with Windows 10, but you will never know how long that will last and that is very disconcerting to many people.
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I fully expect that when 2020 arrives and support for Windows 7 is dropped that the "10" will be dropped and the "new Windows will be released without a version number. People will rush to get the "new version" and then discover all Microsoft did was change the color of lipstick on the pig.
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Lol, sounds like you guys have always hated Microsoft Windows. Now this might be an insane idea, but might I suggest you try a different operating system? I found this list on Wikipedia that might be useful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems
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Lol, sounds like you guys have always hated Microsoft Windows. Now this might be an insane idea, but might I suggest you try a different operating system? I found this list on Wikipedia that might be useful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems
I am not seeing any type of emotional responses here, except from you. Nothing said here has not been true and is quite easily confirmed as well.
Just because a fact is not in favor of a choice does not make any less of a fact.
Personally, I am very pragmatic about my computer systems and the software running on them. I am not a bleeding edge enthusiast and I do not blindly allow software to be installed on my computer without understanding the inherent risks associated with it. It is about as far from an emotional decision as you can get.
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Skuzzy, let us not forget the original topic on this thread. Latrobe fixed his computer by upgrading to Windows 10. Latrobe's not a developer, nor is he an IT expert, but instead uses his computer for gaming and his own personal enjoyment. Windows 10 has worked perfectly for him because he does not fear change or hold any conspiracy theories about windows probing his computer. You and Challenge have managed to take this thread and twist it into the "bellyache about Windows" and the "I hate Windows" thread rather than complementing or congratulating Latrobe on his now working computer.
On that note, I would like to redirect this thread by saying, "Awesome that Windows 10 worked for you Latrobe!"
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Skuzzy, let us not forget the original topic on this thread. Latrobe fixed his computer by upgrading to Windows 10. Latrobe's not a developer, nor is he an IT expert, but instead uses his computer for gaming and his own personal enjoyment. Windows 10 has worked perfectly for him because he does not fear change or hold any conspiracy theories about windows probing his computer. You and Challenge have managed to take this thread and twist it into the "bellyache about Windows" and the "I hate Windows" thread rather than complementing or congratulating Latrobe on his now working computer.
On that note, I would like to redirect this thread by saying, "Awesome that Windows 10 worked for you Latrobe!"
Sure it fixed a problem, but then again, re-installing Windows 7 would have accomplished the same thing. My caution is whatever caused the original corruption may still be present and he is only delaying the same problem again.
Data corruption is never a good thing. It happens for a reason and without knowing why it happened, it does not matter what version of the operating system is installed, it could happen again.
FYI: There is no "bellyaching". There is a concern, on my part, he has masked the real problem which could bite him in the tush again. It does not have anything to do with "fear" or "change" or "conspiracy". You keep wanting to make it about that, but that is not what is being discussed here.
Find me saying, "I hate Windows" anywhere. You won't, so I would appreciate it if you stopped trying claim I said something I did not. Again, you are trying to make this emotional. There is nothing emotional in anything I have said. Care to take what I have actually said and discuss it?
I have to know about the bugs in any of the operating systems. I spend a lot of time reading Microsoft's bug reports so I know how to work around things for the game. Like this: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,377540.0.html
So I am always listening to problems players have with their computers and what they do to fix them. In this instance, the cause of the problem has been ignored. Yes, the computer is fixed, but the problem may still be there.
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And that event is exactly what I think everyone will experience at one point or another. Windows 10 represents a technology company that is attempting to shoehorn every Windows user into one operating system. The problem is that they do not allow anyone to refuse updates, or at least that is what they try. To stop an update you first have to be aware of upcoming issues that the update creates and then how to avoid the update. So, Microsoft has just become a big problem to their own users.
Latrobe had a problem with Windows 7. It might have been updates, misconfigured hardware, or simply poor user habits. The updates will continue to be a problem (as already stated). If the hardware was misconfigured then nothing has changed there either. And Latrobe has already decided that he is happy with the change, so he is unlikely to change his own habits.
Therefore, nothing has been fixed and all that has happened is a change in lipstick shade.
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Therefore, nothing has been fixed and all that has happened is a change in lipstick shade.
I don't know, I've been using my PC with Win10 for a while now and everything seems to be fixed. :headscratch:
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I don't know, I've been using my PC with Win10 for a while now and everything seems to be fixed. :headscratch:
The manifested problem is fixed. What caused the problem is at issue. If that is not corrected, it will happen again. You would have corrected the problem by re-installing Windows 7. The cause of the original issue is not the operating system, it is something else and that is what could creep back in and cause it again unless you figure out what caused it before.
The point is, Windows 10 did not fix the problem. It masked the problem, just like re-installing Windows 7 would have done. Who knows what caused the original problem. I am hopeful it will not manifest again.
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You would have corrected the problem by re-installing Windows 7.
It masked the problem, just like re-installing Windows 7 would have done
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Really? Ok, I will explain it in more detail.
You would have corrected the problem by re-installing Windows 7.
The original post suggests the problem was cured by installing Windows 10. It would have also been corrected by re-installing Windows 7. The problem was never really fixed.
It masked the problem, just like re-installing Windows 7 would have done
Simply re-installing the operating system (any OS), masked the problem which caused the data to be corrupt to begin with.
All the re-install did was correct the corrupted data, it may not have corrected the reason the data got corrupted. Then again, it might have corrected it. We will never know for sure. The only thing we know for sure is, any operating system re-install would have corrected the corrupted data.
Does that make it clearer for you?
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Why hide behind a shades account?
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CUZ OF SPIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Maybe a real life exampe clarifies the issue:
As Skuzzy said, we don't know what caused the problems in the first hand. One possible culprit can be a failing hard disk, causing corrupted files in a certain sector. A reinstall usually does some error checking and bypasses bad sectors so both the issue and the cause get fixed. However, there's many ways hard disk can fail. If it's just one weak spot, bypassing it usually is enough. But if the disk surface has been physically damaged by a hit of the read/write head, there may be a loose chip grinding the disk randomly.
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Maybe. I have thought for a long time that it was a 'bad idea' to encourage users to practice cable management to the extreme. I don't have a problem with maximizing airflow, but the cable management idea usually gets glossed over with the concept without direct instructions. I have seen issues where the cables take tight corners, which with the tiny SATA cables and IDE cables is murder on the internal traces. Over time this can cause shielding to break down, if there even is shielding, or crosstalk because of the close proximity to the various types of cabling, or worse case scenario 'twisty-type' cable ties with all of their problems.
As we know, internal audio cards sometimes pickup spurious signals from the internal cables and create audible noise, which is why I started talking about USB DACs. Through all of this if someone has been stubbornly ignoring the signs and audio clues have been present and ignored, then the second stage of crosstalk (and failing PSUs that has been mentioned previously) then begins to create data corruption.
So, at this point it would be pointless to check for system corruption, but checking for hard drive problems would be a good idea. Replacing the cabling if any of the cabling issues are possible, and finally there is the PSU to look at.
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I don't know about you guys, but installing Windows 10 actually drastically increased my internet speed. Thanks to the removal of Internet Explorer and better optimization of CAT5e Internet protocols. Also, I spread out the cables in my case a little bit to prevent crosstalk (not that it's needed, since Windows 10 has built-in error correction). I posted my reseults and new computer setup below.
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:rofl :bolt:
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Heh pretty sure cable management wouldn't affect net speeds (http://www.speedtest.net/result/5120254452.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5120254452) Also not sure if troll or if you forgot you were mid-wank. :rofl
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Yeah, pretty much a console user that had filled up on spyware would certainly see a speedup by reinstalling, but one OS to another? Not likely.
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I don't know about you guys, but installing Windows 10 actually drastically increased my internet speed. Thanks to the removal of Internet Explorer and better optimization of CAT5e Internet protocols. Also, I spread out the cables in my case a little bit to prevent crosstalk (not that it's needed, since Windows 10 has built-in error correction). I posted my reseults and new computer setup below.
Hate to tell you this, but the network stack for Windows 10 is the same as Windows 7. You might not have had your bindings ordered correctly in your previous version of Windows, which could cause a much slower Internet connection.
All TCP/IP connections have error correction. It is part of the specification.
Internet Exploder would have little to do with Speedtest results as they are run from the server, not the client.
Windows 10 is not why you got a faster connection. Nothing has changed which would cause that. If you had wiped your hard drive and re-installed whatever OS you had before (taking care to order the network bindings), you would have gotten the same results.
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Don't mind Flametux, he just discovered the wonderful world of sarcasm. :)
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Don't mind Flametux, he just discovered the wonderful world of sarcasm. :)
Peachy.
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My only issue is DX12 - are games of the near future not going to use DX12? There is already one new AAA title on the way in March that is DX12 - no Win10, no DX12, right? PC gamer has reported that Microsoft has stated unequivocally that Windows 7 will NOT be getting DX12 updates. So, as much as I'd prefer to stay with Win7, I'd also like to use the new products and games that will be created and require DX12, especially a lot of the coming VR stuff - but not JUST those games, a lot of mainstream stuff will likely start being Dx12 as well, such as RTS titles like Ashes of Singularity.
I ended up trying Win10 much the same way Latrobe did - When installing AH beta my TrackIR program flipped out, and then locked up, and no amount of reinstalling/registry edits and retries could make it stop locking up my PC when launched - Natural Point's techs spent 4 hours in my PC remotely trying to figure it out, and couldn't, so as AH and a couple other games were the only thing that specific PC is used for, reinstalling Win7/format/ wasn't a tough option. Since I had to do this anyway, I figured why not try the Win10 upgrade as I was going to wipe the drives anyhow. Win10 did solve the TiR software problem - again I realize it's just a temp/masked fix, that whatever caused the TiR software to slowly start locking up the PC is out there probably still, I just wanted to see Win10. WAY too much stuff to have to turn off to get it "sort of" secure, and you CAN'T get rid of Cortana regardless of what you try, aftermarket "fixes" and otherwise.
The one thing I think is unforgivable is how Microsoft has the updates set to use your PC as a torrent like server helping MS distribute their product with YOUR bandwidth. The majority of unsavvy PC users will never figure this out and switch it off, and MS will happily steal their bandwidth, and with the majority of ISP plans having data caps now, and with the majority of net use being Netflix and other bandwidth hog programs - this is a very, very dangerous thing MS is doing, and is going to open them up to suits IMO. When folks start getting overage bills from their ISPs for MS using and breaking THEIR data caps, TOS or not, I can foresee lawsuits over that, particularly with "forced" upgrades where there is no actual "click" of an "I understand and agree" box. And even with that box, you can't sign your rights away, including being stolen from.
DX12 support or lack thereof is my only concern with Win7 - of all the OS put out by MS, it's by far been my favorite, by an order of magnitude. In fact, it's pretty impressive considering what a giant POS the predecessor Vista was.
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I have been waiting for someone to mention their performance gains on "Ashes of the Singularity," but so far nothing. I don't expect "Hitman" will need it much, but time will tell. If you already see a 90% bump in performance then the 70% that EMA has to offer won't be all that great by comparison, but if you just want to mix AMD with Nvidia then maybe so.
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Peachy.
sorry skuzzy even I caught the sarcasm in his post. you been hanging around hitech's office after last week's delivery much?
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