General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: rpm on May 01, 2016, 05:11:30 PM
Title: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: rpm on May 01, 2016, 05:11:30 PM
Every base on the Bish/Knight and Bish/Rook front flashing under attack. 1 base on the Knight/Rook front flashing under attack.
Great gameplay HTC. Keep up the good work...
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 01, 2016, 05:29:27 PM
A whine has been recorded.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: The Fugitive on May 01, 2016, 05:36:06 PM
I wish we could see more of that kind of action. Tired of chasing down fights.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: rpm on May 01, 2016, 05:41:12 PM
Just way beyond getting tired of it Ack-Ack. Both sides attacking Bish and not fighting each other. That's some quality gameplay right there.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Owlblink on May 01, 2016, 05:46:07 PM
Yet the bush still seem to win most the maps :bolt: :ahand
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Zimme83 on May 01, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
Group hug.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: guncrasher on May 01, 2016, 06:26:20 PM
the knight/rook ceasefire will end at 8pm pst. at which gimme the knight/bishop ceasefire will start.
no ceasefire on tuesdays as it is pig squad night.
semp
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: JunkyII on May 01, 2016, 06:40:35 PM
I don't like fighting Bish too many HO Rams.....AKA The guys who fly without tracers aka cmex aka most of anti horde. Give a few of them their credit but I'm not going to up to fight them when the rest of them fly that lame...it's a waste of my time.
My best fights recently have been against G3MF and 47 Ronin, both squads use some good wingman tactics which turns into me being dead a lot but the fights are at least enjoyable.
Its not about the kill....it's the manner in which I am killed that bothers me.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: RufusLeaking on May 01, 2016, 06:56:02 PM
I don't like fighting Bish too many HO Rams.....AKA The guys who fly without tracers aka cmex aka most of anti horde. Give a few of them their credit but I'm not going to up to fight them when the rest of them fly that lame...it's a waste of my time.
My best fights recently have been against G3MF and 47 Ronin, both squads use some good wingman tactics which turns into me being dead a lot but the fights are at least enjoyable.
Its not about the kill....it's the manner in which I am killed that bothers me.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
A whine has been recorded.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: caldera on May 01, 2016, 07:56:29 PM
The last two nights have been some unbelieveable ganging from the nits. I have fought against all sides and they can gang better than anyone. It takes their whole tard air force to bring down one plane.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: The Fugitive on May 01, 2016, 10:10:10 PM
I don't like fighting Bish too many HO Rams.....AKA The guys who fly without tracers aka cmex aka most of anti horde. Give a few of them their credit but I'm not going to up to fight them when the rest of them fly that lame...it's a waste of my time.
My best fights recently have been against G3MF and 47 Ronin, both squads use some good wingman tactics which turns into me being dead a lot but the fights are at least enjoyable.
Its not about the kill....it's the manner in which I am killed that bothers me.
Damn I hate to say it but I have to agree with you on that.
The last two nights have been some unbelieveable ganging from the nits. I have fought against all sides and they can gang better than anyone. It takes their whole tard air force to bring down one plane.
Friday we had squad night (47 Ronin) and attacked Knights. We had buffs with escorts at less than 20k looking to get a fight going. Knights didn't want a fight, they grabbed while our dar bar moved south toward their base and came at us from 25K+ Wasn't much of a fight and after getting ganged from high alt pickers we just left and moved on. I hope they had fun for the short time it lasted.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Zimme83 on May 01, 2016, 10:20:57 PM
What was inappropriate with that response from the nits?
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 01, 2016, 11:19:05 PM
The knights have been having the Hoard going the past 3-4 days, that is for sure.
No better way to fight than get a huge group to up from a field back with alt to even the fight.
Thats always fun
Its always when teams fight back that there is a good fight.
Tonight there was good fights between Rook/Knights. It looked like the rooks were pretty dominant tonight, but it was going back and forth.
The tides always turn. No one team can control everyone. Things happen the way they happen.
I always have a terrible time flying on the Bish side, so I don't even bother anymore.
battling the Hoard is always fun. You just got to be more strategic and get some friendlies to come with you!
There is always the opportunity to change sides. You are free to find sides to find the fight!
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: JOACH1M on May 01, 2016, 11:53:28 PM
Me > Anti-Horde
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: puller on May 02, 2016, 12:04:13 AM
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Squire on May 02, 2016, 12:51:37 AM
Quote
Great gameplay HTC
Gameplay is what players do.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Bruv119 on May 02, 2016, 01:29:42 AM
Worrying for me was the state of Fester's map the other morning, logged in to see Bish bent over backwards.
with 0 (ZERO) players logged in, 12 knights and 11 rooks. I can't ever recall a time in the Main arena where a team had ZERO players. ENY of course wasn't in effect until after 15 minutes when 1 Bish player logged in and then ENY took effect. I swapped to Bish and helped myself to some easy kills on guys thinking they had no opposition but it was a sad state of affairs.
It wasn't even after a map reset.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: bozon on May 02, 2016, 03:26:34 AM
From where I sit, it looks like a great time to be on bish side.
If you like being outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1, then yeah. The side numbers were relatively even, but Bish had to cut their force in half to defend both fronts. Nit/Rooks had nearly their entire force attacking Bish.
Air Warrior had a simple fix for this that HTC refuses to utilize. Limit the number of available planes from a base/zone. When that number is used, players had to back up to the next zone to get a plane. Simple and effective anti-horde solution.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Randy1 on May 02, 2016, 06:13:41 AM
Beat the Bish, win the Map. That is what we say in Rook land. :salute the Bish.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 02, 2016, 06:54:48 AM
If you like being outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1, then yeah. The side numbers were relatively even, but Bish had to cut their force in half to defend both fronts. Nit/Rooks had nearly their entire force attacking Bish.
Air Warrior had a simple fix for this that HTC refuses to utilize. Limit the number of available planes from a base/zone. When that number is used, players had to back up to the next zone to get a plane. Simple and effective anti-horde solution.
That's a terrible solution, limiting the hoard is not the issue. This limits fights and limits team work. Want to dismantle the hoard? Get 5 buddies to roll 262, temps, 190s from a back field, get 20k, and go wreck the hoard. It really is that simple.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: puller on May 02, 2016, 08:31:19 AM
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: waystin2 on May 02, 2016, 09:39:17 AM
Fly Knights all the time. Logged in yesterday around 6 PM and no Pigs online, and zero dar on either front. Looked over to the Bish/Rook front and saw 2-3 full dar bars. Jumped to Bish front and snagged me some Rook scalps. Logged a couple hours later, updated my shots and took a complete decon shower. :D
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Wiley on May 02, 2016, 09:43:38 AM
Wasn't the 16 fight last night on the Rook-Knight front? That was one of the more intense battles I've seen in a good while. Lots of people involved in it for a long time.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Delirium on May 02, 2016, 09:44:03 AM
That's a terrible solution, limiting the hoard is not the issue. This limits fights and limits team work. Want to dismantle the hoard? Get 5 buddies to roll 262, temps, 190s from a back field, get 20k, and go wreck the hoard. It really is that simple.
Rather than close the field to flight, I'd rather see zone ENY implemented. That way, even if you flew for a country with many numbers you could offset that by flying away from the pack or be gently encouraged away from flying with the horde unless you wished to fly less favorable aircraft.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Mongoose on May 02, 2016, 09:48:19 AM
Friday we had squad night (47 Ronin) and attacked Knights. We had buffs with escorts at less than 20k looking to get a fight going. Knights didn't want a fight, they grabbed while our dar bar moved south toward their base and came at us from 25K+
This is called "tactics". The idea is to come up with your own tactics to counter their tactics. That is part of the game.
I've often said, "If you can't find a fight, start one". In your example, the 47 Ronin did exactly that, tried to get a fight going. You were successful in that you got a response. But you are mad because it wasn't the response you wanted.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: nrshida on May 02, 2016, 10:18:33 AM
Friday we had squad night (47 Ronin) and attacked Knights. We had buffs with escorts at less than 20k looking to get a fight going. Knights didn't want a fight, they grabbed while our dar bar moved south toward their base and came at us from 25K+ Wasn't much of a fight and after getting ganged from high alt pickers we just left and moved on. I hope they had fun for the short time it lasted.
Respectfully, what should they have done? Stayed low and crawled up the bombers' low six to attack? They did exactly what you should do when you've got bombers incoming and time to prepare. Get above them and attack.
People go high for defense because 90% of the time when an organized bunch of bombers comes in, they come in at 20k+. Usually more like 30k or so.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: The Fugitive on May 02, 2016, 10:37:12 AM
Personally I rarely go over 12k, if anyone wants to waste the time going to 25k to be over me they are going to have to drop down to get me any way, why bother climbing?
Tactics? Bah! It's called being a wuss. You cant handle a fight on even terms? Where's the challenge in using 5-10k alt advantage picking lower cons?
Too many believe the number of kills is more important than the actual game which is combat.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: guncrasher on May 02, 2016, 10:40:24 AM
Wasn't the 16 fight last night on the Rook-Knight front? That was one of the more intense battles I've seen in a good while. Lots of people involved in it for a long time.
Wiley.
that was an awesome fight. had lots of fun. fights everywhere from the deck all the way to 20k. I still have a woodie.
semp
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: puller on May 02, 2016, 10:48:25 AM
Junky can't help but cry about cmex or my other squaddies...so he gets called on it...you don't see any of my guys on here whining about any one player or squad about any aspect of their flying or lack thereof, their tactics, their HOing, their running, or any of the other lametastic things that people do in this game...
Have a good day shida :salute
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Zoney on May 02, 2016, 10:59:11 AM
Friday we had squad night (47 Ronin) and attacked Knights. We had buffs with escorts at less than 20k looking to get a fight going. Knights didn't want a fight, they grabbed while our dar bar moved south toward their base and came at us from 25K+ Wasn't much of a fight and after getting ganged from high alt pickers we just left and moved on. I hope they had fun for the short time it lasted.
You can blame/thank me for this. I was cruising around in the Zoneysphere with my K4, when I spotted your dar bar coming early. I called it out on country channel and then flew to intercept. As soon as I spotted your group I called it out again on country with altitude and numbers, including your escorts. I then lingered and waited for my country mates to arrive before attacking. It's what I do.
<S>
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: nrshida on May 02, 2016, 11:00:45 AM
Junky can't help but cry about cmex or my other squaddies...so he gets called on it...you don't see any of my guys on here whining about any one player or squad about any aspect of their flying or lack thereof, their tactics, their HOing, their running, or any of the other lametastic things that people do in this game...
Have a good day shida :salute
Junky, seek psychological help... :rofl
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: nrshida on May 02, 2016, 11:02:22 AM
Personally I rarely go over 12k, if anyone wants to waste the time going to 25k to be over me they are going to have to drop down to get me any way, why bother climbing?
Tactics? Bah! It's called being a wuss. You cant handle a fight on even terms? Where's the challenge in using 5-10k alt advantage picking lower cons?
Too many believe the number of kills is more important than the actual game which is combat.
Were your escorts not above the bombers by a significant margin? If not, recommend remedial escort tactics training for all.
To expect to survive a bomber attack run, you need to come in from high unless you've got a ton of smash and/or are in a jet. Unless the bomber gunner is a complete numpty, coming in co alt is pretty much a death sentence. Sorry, but that's the way it works out.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: guncrasher on May 02, 2016, 11:04:36 AM
how ironic that fugitive complains about getting hit by high altitude noobs while his squad was at 20k.
semp
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Delirium on May 02, 2016, 12:26:26 PM
Were your escorts not above the bombers by a significant margin? If not, recommend remedial escort tactics training for all.
I was not there, but I've found that it is almost impossible to prevent that initial pass on a bomber formation by interceptors. The best you can hope for is to break up a formation, particularly in a scenario environment.
That said, I almost never escort bombers in the MA. I don't like flying that high, dogfighting at that altitude is akin to two fat ladies trying to perform ballet.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Wiley on May 02, 2016, 12:35:14 PM
I was not there, but I've found that it is almost impossible to prevent that initial pass on a bomber formation by interceptors. The best you can hope for is to break up a formation, particularly in a scenario environment.
That said, I almost never escort bombers in the MA. I don't like flying that high, dogfighting at that altitude is akin to two fat ladies trying to perform ballet.
If all you've got is close escort, wholeheartedly agree. That's what the escorts out front are for, to break them up/give them something else to think about. The close escorts are there to stop them from having free reign to keep attacking with impunity.
That first pass, you may lose one drone. Very few people will take a twofer/threefer on initial attack. It's when the interceptors attempt to reverse that the escorts should be all over them.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: zack1234 on May 02, 2016, 01:03:06 PM
I was not there, but I've found that it is almost impossible to prevent that initial pass on a bomber formation by interceptors. The best you can hope for is to break up a formation, particularly in a scenario environment.
That said, I almost never escort bombers in the MA. I don't like flying that high, dogfighting at that altitude is akin to two fat ladies trying to perform ballet.
Exactly, Buffs are easy prey in most cases no matter what type of escort you have.
It was a squad mission and all we were looking to do is get a fight going. Mission orders even said "should we get the town White Flag, we will leave it to other Rooks to capture it if they want it." Instead we got a bunch of wusses runnning high alt BnZ passes. Even after we dropped down they continued to just stay high and BnZ. Thats why we eventually left. It gets pretty boring when all the enemy does is run away to climb back to their perch.
We try to start a fight, they run away. We defend, they give up and go someplace else. What ever happened to fighting for one base all night? OH thats right, it really messes up your score doing that.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: waystin2 on May 02, 2016, 04:04:29 PM
Exactly, Buffs are easy prey in most cases no matter what type of escort you have.
It was a squad mission and all we were looking to do is get a fight going. Mission orders even said "should we get the town White Flag, we will leave it to other Rooks to capture it if they want it." Instead we got a bunch of wusses runnning high alt BnZ passes. Even after we dropped down they continued to just stay high and BnZ. Thats why we eventually left. It gets pretty boring when all the enemy does is run away to climb back to their perch.
We try to start a fight, they run away. We defend, they give up and go someplace else. What ever happened to fighting for one base all night? OH thats right, it really messes up your score doing that.
You can climb down off that virtual cross. I have chased Ronin multiple sectors trying to get a fight. Usually more than one and at 20k plus... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: nrshida on May 02, 2016, 04:16:12 PM
After a while one begins to think these kind of threads are the equivalent of AH's menstrual cycle. They pop up periodically, lots of harsh words and things that ought to have been said earlier and less harshly and the odd broken flower vase. On the head. With bricks inside. There there. :bolt:
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Airsharks on May 02, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
Every base on the Bish/Knight and Bish/Rook front flashing under attack. 1 base on the Knight/Rook front flashing under attack.
Great gameplay HTC. Keep up the good work...
I thought this is where all the bish went crying again... dam guys give it a break you cry if we kill your HQ so bad that Scuzzy up on damge to force us into doing other things that you guys said we didnt do. Well Here we are again you guys crying because we did. you can not win because your to busy dogfighting instead of playing the game,, so be it!!! Crybabys
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Tumor on May 02, 2016, 04:45:35 PM
The last two nights have been some unbelieveable ganging from the nits. I have fought against all sides and they can gang better than anyone. It takes their whole tard air force to bring down one plane.
Only the nits can pull off a major horde-gang while being outnumbered. It just is.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: JunkyII on May 02, 2016, 04:52:54 PM
Junky can't help but cry about cmex or my other squaddies...so he gets called on it...you don't see any of my guys on here whining about any one player or squad about any aspect of their flying or lack thereof, their tactics, their HOing, their running, or any of the other lametastic things that people do in this game...
Have a good day shida :salute
Cry?? Nope, making people aware of lame gameplay....people might not like my attitude or the way I talk a lot here or 200 but you wont find a case where I purposely did some sort of tactic that was lame gameplay...and if it is even questionable I at least will apologize for it. Oh and BTW the reason I agreed with Jo is because I consider him better then me 1v1 and not a single one of your sticks has provided any proof that they were better than me 1v1.
Can we guess who this is in the 262??? Wouldn't have mattered what ride he was in the same HO would have happened, kind of makes me feel good about myself...it's like the only way he thinks he can kill me is from an advantage or with a HO shot...kind of funny :devil
I have always brought up things repeatedly that I think are very detrimental to game play....his flying and others(some not in your squad, some are knights I call out too aka Jayro) is one of them, in my opinion....so if you don't like it squelch me :aok
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: JunkyII on May 02, 2016, 04:53:29 PM
Them BBS wars are the true test of ones skill in Aces High :aok
Without a doubt, it takes years of practice and god knows how many mistakes to learn from to be flawless in the art of the flame and the troll.
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: scott66 on May 02, 2016, 08:20:50 PM
OK I'm putting in my 2 cents..
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: Guppy35 on May 02, 2016, 09:58:48 PM
Granted I've only been back flying a couple weeks now, but for the most part there have been decent fights. There were two or three nights where I was landing due to lack of fuel, which never happens when I fly as I tend to aim for the biggest batch of red and get myself killed over and over.
For what it's worth the good fights I've seen tended to be between two bases, not over one or the other, and with not a ton of alt, just folks having at it.
Still the same old game, just less bodies right now. Same complaints, same excuses, same folks forgetting no one really dies, planes are free. You get the drill :)
Title: Re: Same ol' same ol'
Post by: JunkyII on May 02, 2016, 10:08:59 PM
Granted I've only been back flying a couple weeks now, but for the most part there have been decent fights. There were two or three nights where I was landing due to lack of fuel, which never happens when I fly as I tend to aim for the biggest batch of red and get myself killed over and over.
For what it's worth the good fights I've seen tended to be between two bases, not over one or the other, and with not a ton of alt, just folks having at it.
Still the same old game, just less bodies right now. Same complaints, same excuses, same folks forgetting no one really dies, planes are free. You get the drill :)
Tonights fights were a bit of whack a horde but the rooks ended up staying and fighting at one field and we had a decent furball. I hope this trend of good fights stays :rock