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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Max on August 12, 2016, 02:25:27 PM
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I hardly noticed.
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I guess they got lonely and held their collective breath until they vanished like something out of a Lewis Carroll story.......
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I hardly noticed.
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
I like it.
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EDIT: Oh!! Please don't mess with the SE1 Boss - have a date tonight with some...well...uhm...yeah...FS O in the PAC. Swords and Saki - Diapers and Headbands, ya know?
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
Righteous!!
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
:x :x :x
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I don't think I have enough dancing nanners for that statement.
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
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:cheers:
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
:aok :x :banana:
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Oh wow ... guess tonight I need to sign on. :D
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:rock :rock :rock :rock
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I'm so excited and i just can't hide it. Yippe!
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Oh....my.....god.... :x
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
Cool beans!
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Some epic meltdowns going on in the MA, lots of grumpy old men don't like the change from b/w tv to colour :neener:
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Vulcan;
It's not that there are people who don't want the change. Most people are happy for the change however they can't afford to upgrade computers for whatever reason. Not everyone can afford it, and even ah2 is a privilege for them
You have to see it from both sides, many of these players have been around for a long time and their time is up when ah2 is up. That's all. They are happy that the change is coming but disappointed they won't be able to move onward at this time.
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Sad to see Early and Late War removed........had a lot of fun times over there,and learned a lot of tactics there as well.
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Sad to see Early and Late War removed........had a lot of fun times over there,and learned a lot of tactics there as well.
Was thinking the same thing...
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Yeah, tried the beta again, the cursor lags the mouse movements pretty bad which doesn't bode well for my computer, even with everything turned off/down its not really playable. I know its a lot of work and change is inevitable but its a little depressing, one of the things I thought was cool about ah2 was you could get a free computer to play it well enough to have a good time, unlike say IL2, Warbirds, Warblunder, ROF or freakin MSFS.
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if your pc can handle AH2 it should do AH3. The only problem with that statement is that you need a dedicated video card of 2g ram or better. Turning off all the details and you get something that resembles AH2.
It actually runs smoother on my 8 year old processor because I have a 4 year old gfx card in it.
I will however rebuild because it is time we can't go on living in the past even if it is all about WW2.
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I will own Bruv in AHIII! Stand ready! :old: :joystick: :neener: :cheers:
HUZZAH AH III!!!!!! :aok :banana: :rock
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Most i've been talking with online have OK computers for AH3, some unlucky bastards run AH2 on old laptops, they are in for a new computer - or leave the game.
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It's not as if folks with older rigs haven't had time to update...this day's been coming for 3 + years. Granted, it's a financial hardship for a few :frown:
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I guess most folks only play AH2 and no other online games. Reason why I say this is because an older computer will be able to run AH2 really well but as for newer generation games that are being release will lack performance on a older computer. Its 2016 guys and about time you have a decent computer with a decent GPU, AH3 will run great on a 2G card.......
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How benevolent of you Save.
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How benevolent of you Save.
It's just the hard facts.
If your lawnmower doesn't cut worth a crap do you let your grass just grow? No, you sharpen the blades, get a new blade, (tweaking and upgrading) or by a new mower.
Sure its "just a game", but if your favorite past time is hanging out at the local pub and the price of beer goes up, you either pay the price or you leave.
No thing stays the same for ever. It has been years since the game has had a major upgrade. Be thankful for what you have "gotten by" with. Now its time to S*@T or get off the pot.
BRING ON ACES HIGH III !!!!!!
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I guess most folks only play AH2 and no other online games. Reason why I say this is because an older computer will be able to run AH2 really well but as for newer generation games that are being release will lack performance on a older computer. Its 2016 guys and about time you have a decent computer with a decent GPU, AH3 will run great on a 2G card.......
That's easy to say if you can afford the upgrade. I know a number who cannot. There is no question that AH2 is far behind other games with respect to graphics but how much does that really matter to many players? The current graphics in AH2 are a lot better than they were 10 years ago when I started but I don' think it's made a bit of difference in how much I enjoy the game. It's the addition of new planes and GVs that has made the biggest difference but even without those it would still be fun.
It will be interesting to see if the improved eye candy will draw enough players to offset he loss of those who will drop out because they cannot afford the hardware upgrade required. I have my doubts but hope I'm wrong because I have loved playing this game for the last 10 yrs.
and yes, it's all I play. First person shooters, for example, bore me to death.
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It's just the hard facts.
If your lawnmower doesn't cut worth a crap do you let your grass just grow? No, you sharpen the blades, get a new blade, (tweaking and upgrading) or by a new mower.
Sure its "just a game", but if your favorite past time is hanging out at the local pub and the price of beer goes up, you either pay the price or you leave.
No thing stays the same for ever. It has been years since the game has had a major upgrade. Be thankful for what you have "gotten by" with. Now its time to S*@T or get off the pot.
BRING ON ACES HIGH III !!!!!!
I don't entirely disagree with you. I really like AH3. Fortunately I have a video card that will run it with good frame rates if I disable shadows and some post lighting effects and can afford an upgrade once it;s clear what video card will be thew best bang for the buck. After seeing all the complaints in this forum about having trouble finding a fights because of too few players I'm worried that too many may choose to get off the pot.
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That's what I'm thinking too, Max.
It's not like it's too late to start saving up. There will just be some downtime. For some folks they may have to come back to it after getting some financial freedom.
It's not as if folks with older rigs haven't had time to update...this day's been coming for 3 + years. Granted, it's a financial hardship for a few :frown:
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Everyone is welcome to join us in AvA War tonight and see the new game in action. You'll have fun testing your hardware on a concentrated battlefield.
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Those of you who have yet to download AH3, be advised, it's LONG
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
This is fantastic news.
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not everybody has a money tree in their back yard-you'all act like it's the easiest thing just to go out and buy a new computer or upgrade old ones..if it weren't for 2 friends I would not be able to play AH3-still right this minute I can play it-but there are only 10-12 people max in AH3-will have to wait until we get 60 to 140 people for sure to see if I can still play it.
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It's just the hard facts.
If your lawnmower doesn't cut worth a crap do you let your grass just grow? No, you sharpen the blades, get a new blade, (tweaking and upgrading) or by a new mower.
Sure its "just a game", but if your favorite past time is hanging out at the local pub and the price of beer goes up, you either pay the price or you leave.
No thing stays the same for ever. It has been years since the game has had a major upgrade. Be thankful for what you have "gotten by" with. Now its time to S*@T or get off the pot.
BRING ON ACES HIGH III !!!!!!
lawnmowers don't cost anywhere near the price of a new puter or an upgrade--and if your mower quits you can hire somebody to cut your grass cheaper than a new mower
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3,,,,
G O I N G L I V E
HiTech
:salute HTC THANKYOU!
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(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/preparing.jpg~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/preparing.jpg.html)
Preparing, why are you always preparing? :bolt:
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Less than 2.weeks.???
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I am finding it hard to compute..
2 weeks is so hardwired..
Quiet exciting really
I remember when we changed from Ah to AH2
new towns where a big change.for the better..tank traps.on the beach did.not stay..
It was an upgrade well worth it...even if we thought we didn't need it...we did.
This.upgrade is way bigger..
Bring it on..
Hitech and crew have bent over backwards to try and accommodate older machines and old.timers..
I'm sure if they try hard enough they will come on into the journey of AH3
IT'S GOING TO BE A BLAST!!!!
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It's not as if folks with older rigs haven't had time to update...this day's been coming for 3 + years. Granted, it's a financial hardship for a few :frown:
Not so much just the bucks, but lack of minimum required hardware to run the game. ie: I have a 2gb gfx card but it's mm3 ram and a 610 processor and will not run the game usably. In the beta threads I have seen guys with $300/400 graphics cards gripe about frame rates, those cards cost more than my PC/monitor that runs AH2. Hopefully a list of minimums, standard and other hardware requirements will come out soon. I can load AH3, but the 9 frame rate means even just playing in a manned gun will be a challenge, much less a GV or Acft. Now if gubbmint will just OK a social security bumpup this year so I can get something that runs AH3 at 60 fps i'll go for that, but that ain't happening I bet.
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Not so much just the bucks, but lack of minimum required hardware to run the game. ie: I have a 2gb gfx card but it's mm3 ram and a 610 processor and will not run the game usably. In the beta threads I have seen guys with $300/400 graphics cards gripe about frame rates, those cards cost more than my PC/monitor that runs AH2. Hopefully a list of minimums, standard and other hardware requirements will come out soon. I can load AH3, but the 9 frame rate means even just playing in a manned gun will be a challenge, much less a GV or Acft. Now if gubbmint will just OK a social security bumpup this year so I can get something that runs AH3 at 60 fps i'll go for that, but that ain't happening I bet.
Maybe folks gripped about that at beginning of Alfa testing but they will not be griping now
You are spreading misinformation..
Here is a card for $188 that will sort out the game for you no problem...
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GTX-960-2G/dp/B00SAYDRP8
Almost half the price you are complaining about..
Let's not scare people off with old gossip..
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Most i've been talking with online have OK computers for AH3, some unlucky bastards run AH2 on old laptops, they are in for a new computer - or leave the game.
I run AH2 off a lap top. The upgrades I need to do first are for my primary hobby of photography. Unless I can figure out a way to make ah3 work on my current photography set up (that runs AH2 just fine) I'll be out until I can set aside the extra. But camera equipment is my priority.
In a dream world AH2 late war and dueling arena would stay active while AH3 runs full force. But I know that is going for to much. I'll play while I can and enjoy what I have left and hopefully one day make it back.
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Maybe folks gripped about that at beginning of Alfa testing but they will not be griping now
You are spreading misinformation..
Here is a card for $188 that will sort out the game for you no problem...
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GTX-960-2G/dp/B00SAYDRP8
Almost half the price you are complaining about..
Let's not scare people off with old gossip..
I alluded to actual posts I had read and the fact that I have not yet seen released a list of minimum
hardware requirements to play AH3 with usable frame rates.
Hardly gossip or misinformation. Since you have no idea my current config you wouldn't know
that I cant use the 960/970 cards because of power supply constraints, but thanks for the link.
If my questions for minimum requirements scare people then i'm at a loss :cheers:
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My motherboard and CPU are 5 years old. Up until recently I used 5 year old video card (only upgraded to try and get better performance in some other games). So you have to be running some really crappy old stuff to be left behind (my rig runs AH3 just fine WITH the Rift DK2).
To upgrade an old PC (ie replacing mainboard, CPU, RAM) would cost me around $500-$600 max NZDollars. Thats about us$400. And then parts in the US are way cheaper than here, so something like an i3 + 8Gb RAM + GTX 950 is probably in the region of us$340 (according to pc parts builder). If you need a case, PSU, and SSD maybe add another $150-$200.
So an upgrade build $350-$450, a full build $500-$600.
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not everybody has a money tree in their back yard-you'all act like it's the easiest thing just to go out and buy a new computer or upgrade old ones..if it weren't for 2 friends I would not be able to play AH3-still right this minute I can play it-but there are only 10-12 people max in AH3-will have to wait until we get 60 to 140 people for sure to see if I can still play it.
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hmmmm lets see, $15 a month for the game, $50 a month for internet. This is ok, but you cant put $5 aside a week to upgrade/replace your computer every few years?
Same goes for everything else you have, TV blows do you do with out? I doubt it. Washers dies, you wear dirty cloths now? This is my "hobby". I put money aside for it every month just like anything else.
If you cant afford it, I get it, but don't come crying here that you cant. If there is a will, there is a way. The world cant stop just because not everyone can jump on the ride.
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That's easy to say if you can afford the upgrade. I know a number who cannot. There is no question that AH2 is far behind other games with respect to graphics but how much does that really matter to many players? The current graphics in AH2 are a lot better than they were 10 years ago when I started but I don' think it's made a bit of difference in how much I enjoy the game. It's the addition of new planes and GVs that has made the biggest difference but even without those it would still be fun.
It will be interesting to see if the improved eye candy will draw enough players to offset he loss of those who will drop out because they cannot afford the hardware upgrade required. I have my doubts but hope I'm wrong because I have loved playing this game for the last 10 yrs.
and yes, it's all I play. First person shooters, for example, bore me to death.
There is much more than eye candy in AHIII.
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lawnmowers don't cost anywhere near the price of a new puter or an upgrade--and if your mower quits you can hire somebody to cut your grass cheaper than a new mower
Maybe your lawn is small enough that it doesn't lol.
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I alluded to actual posts I had read and the fact that I have not yet seen released a list of minimum
hardware requirements to play AH3 with usable frame rates.
Hardly gossip or misinformation. Since you have no idea my current config you wouldn't know
that I cant use the 960/970 cards because of power supply constraints, but thanks for the link.
If my questions for minimum requirements scare people then i'm at a loss :cheers:
Power supply is replaceable and more than likely part of your problem now.
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To be honest, i hope more for the other changes in long term than just better graphics, FM's damage models etc, I see AH3 just a new platform for those changes.
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I alluded to actual posts I had read and the fact that I have not yet seen released a list of minimum
hardware requirements to play AH3 with usable frame rates.
Hardly gossip or misinformation. Since you have no idea my current config you wouldn't know
that I cant use the 960/970 cards because of power supply constraints, but thanks for the link.
If my questions for minimum requirements scare people then i'm at a loss :cheers:
I also have "power supply constraints" (stoopid HP computer with proprietary MB connections). I have this ordered:
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6163-KR
400W PSU, performance slightly better than the GTX970, $260US. Will report back later in the week.
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not everybody has a money tree in their back yard-you'all act like it's the easiest thing just to go out and buy a new computer or upgrade old ones..if it weren't for 2 friends I would not be able to play AH3-still right this minute I can play it-but there are only 10-12 people max in AH3-will have to wait until we get 60 to 140 people for sure to see if I can still play it.
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BS. You've known for the better part of three years this this day was looming. You are pissed off at HTC, instead of yourself for sitting on your duff? Sorry, be "furious" at yourself.
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lawnmowers don't cost anywhere near the price of a new puter or an upgrade--and if your mower quits you can hire somebody to cut your grass cheaper than a new mower
You can also hire somebody to play AH3 for you, using their own computers. That somebody might even send you AH films for a nominal fee so you can see what you've paid for.
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Were we suppose to stop at Atari or the Commodore 64? I guess Pong should have been good enough for the rest of our lives. Change marches on.
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
D'oh, I need to finish the maps.
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D'oh, I need to finish the maps.
YES! and get busy!!!
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Can someone do a tutorial video for everyone that shows how to get graphics down to the very minimal settings? I feel like this would help a lot of the community who is struggling with low end rigs...I would do it myself but I think it should be done by someone who knows everything about it instead of partial knowledge .
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D'oh, I need to finish the maps.
Ah, so that's why they weren't included in the last few releases. Get to work ya slacker. :D
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My spreadsheets are ready... :old:
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My spreadsheets are ready... :old:
:rofl
It reassuring to see all the player contributors working their respective tails off at this point. Sounds, skins, maps, terrains, stats and documentation are coming along. :rock
:salute and Thanks to all of you!
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We are seeing more in AHIII also testing their settings. Anyone not going over now will be behind the 8 ball when it goes live.
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So far sounds still stink on plane engine start ups and in flight.
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So far sounds still stink on plane engine start ups and in flight.
Fruda is working on upgrading his sound package.
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Fruda is working on upgrading his sound package.
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So far sounds still stink on plane engine start ups and in flight.
Btw.....each plane now has original engines sounds that match their aircraft instead of the old sound in AH2 where every plane sounded the same.
You fire up a Jug! You get the original sound to an R2800. In flight also. P51 Mustang? You hear the Merlin.
You don't need to download a sound package. The game sounds are great!
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Btw.....each plane now has original engines sounds that match their aircraft instead of the old sound in AH2 where every plane sounded the same.
You fire up a Jug! You get the original sound to an R2800. In flight also. P51 Mustang? You hear the Merlin.
You don't need to download a sound package. The game sounds are great!
Probably an issue with some folks sound card. That or the kids who like boom rattle boom rattle instead of music.
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hmmmm lets see, $15 a month for the game, $50 a month for internet. This is ok, but you cant put $5 aside a week to upgrade/replace your computer every few years?
Same goes for everything else you have, TV blows do you do with out? I doubt it. Washers dies, you wear dirty cloths now? This is my "hobby". I put money aside for it every month just like anything else.
If you cant afford it, I get it, but don't come crying here that you cant. If there is a will, there is a way. The world cant stop just because not everyone can jump on the ride.
I didna say I couldn't afford it--I said some people who play this game can't afford it-and I'm not crying
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BS. You've known for the better part of three years this this day was looming. You are pissed off at HTC, instead of yourself for sitting on your duff? Sorry, be "furious" at yourself.
I'm not pissed off at HTc--but it's hard to know what you need-when there are no specifications listed for what you need to play AH3. nobody knows what the minimum video card is needed.
and if my computer can't play it, then I won't and i'll find something that it will.
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AH beta is a work in progress. Final specs will be published when it goes live. Skuzzy has stated this several times.
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We have also stated, many times, the NVidia 9800GTX+ is the baseline video card for Aces High III. There are many sites which will compare that card to any other card you want to check. Just Google "9800gtx vs whatever".
It was first mentioned, during the development work, for what would become Aces High III, back in November of 2013.
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Does baseline mean all graphic options set to off?
The internet says my 750ti is better than the 9800gtx+, but all I can do to see the gauges is shut down everything. 190 cockpits are the darkest so far.
This makes ah3 look worse than ah2 on my PC.
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Does baseline mean all graphic options set to off?
The internet says my 750ti is better than the 9800gtx+, but all I can do to see the gauges is shut down everything. 190 cockpits are the darkest so far.
This makes ah3 look worse than ah2 on my PC.
I don't want to put words into Skuzzy's mouth but I believe he once said no video card on the market can run AH with all settings maxed out. I take that to mean texture size (4096) and monitor reselution (4k) as well as the in-game graphics settings.
That's nice, because every time you upgrade your equipment, you'll see a prettier game. If you're running the minimum card driving a 1024x768 screen, then you can probably have pretty good frame rates at some settings.
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Does baseline mean all graphic options set to off?
The internet says my 750ti is better than the 9800gtx+, but all I can do to see the gauges is shut down everything. 190 cockpits are the darkest so far.
This makes ah3 look worse than ah2 on my PC.
Yes, that is what baseline means. As I cannot see your screen, the best I can do is to show you mine. I have attached a screenshot from inside the 190D cockpit. I also expose the graphic settings options and frame rate.
I used the default field of view, 1920x1080 resolution, and the "Maximum Texture Size" set to 1024.
This is what yours should look like as well. If it does not, then could you post an image, using the same settings I outlined?
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=380695.0;attach=25057)
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Does baseline mean all graphic options set to off?
Yes. Also you need to set the video settings to minimum.
Your card seems to be very close to mine in http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html). Using default settings I get about 35 FPS @ 2560x1600. No problems at all seeing the gauges in any 190, I just checked them all inside the hangar for added darkness. Actually the clock hands were too white compared to the other gauges.
Have you adjusted your monitor settings to show all shades of grey? Here's some tools to do it: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-online-tools-calibrate-monitor/ (http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-online-tools-calibrate-monitor/)
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Thanks Skuzzy and Bizman. I think my texture size is set too high. I'll try these things tonight and then post screen shot and dxdag.
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Thanks Skuzzy and Bizman. I think my texture size is set too high. I'll try these things tonight and then post screen shot and dxdag.
Feel free to post a new topic in the Beta forum. That way it might benefit others.
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A needed change. Glad to see them gone, frankly.
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A needed change. Glad to see them gone, frankly.
I understand the angst of people that frequented those arenas but I rarely did.
I really don't care whether they return or not !
Ram
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Mid-war used to be fun, it had the best planet set match up of any of the arenas.
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midwar was always the best, next to the AVA!! LOL
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It did have a great plane set, and wasn't all mucked up with so many p-fifty-runs and run-ninety doras. That's why the Monday night madness was so fun.
A few years ago when there was 20-30 in MW all the time, it was awesome.
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RIP Midwar, I will miss you.
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maybe HTC will bring it back in AH3?
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Rgr that Flat, I will miss it too if it doesn't come back. Spent most of my time in there. :(
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AvA did also, we are simply preparing for AH3 going live.
HiTech
2 weeks? :bolt:
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Mid-war used to be fun, it had the best planet set match up of any of the arenas.
Well, when numbers come back maybe it will, too.
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I have been playing for about 2 years now and spent most of that time in MW. It was a great place to learn the game from a great bunch of very helpful people under very competitive conditions. My hope is that it will be back in AH III. At least, perhaps, a combination of MW & EW. For now I am flying in LW and the Beta.
BTW, AH III is awesome! <S> HiTech.
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Mid-war used to be fun, it had the best planet set match up of any of the arenas.
Until a "late war" P51B gets in the fight.
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I also have "power supply constraints" (stoopid HP computer with proprietary MB connections). I have this ordered:
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6163-KR
400W PSU, performance slightly better than the GTX970, $260US. Will report back later in the week.
I have the same problem, proprietary motherboard, only the one 320 watt power supply available with the special non standard motherboard connectors and cables. Would love to replace the whole thing, but that isn't going to happen.
I finally did bite the bullet and ordered a evga750ti SC that gets its power from the PCI bus, needs no PS connector and has a 55-60 watt draw. Thanks to skuzzys post suggestion to check the 9800 vs 750 performance using their 9800 as the benchmark I will see what happens. Will definitely keep away from the big box brands HP/compaq etc. with all the special space saving features meaning you cannot buy off the shelf peripheral upgrades. Wish I would have kept my old S100 bus Imsai 8080.
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Wish I would have kept my old S100 bus Imsai 8080.
Heheh... I had a Zenith Z-100 with S-100 bus. It had a 10 MB hard drive that cost $1700US -- in 1980 dollars.
Some things do get better... :O
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I have the same problem, proprietary motherboard, only the one 320 watt power supply available with the special non standard motherboard connectors and cables. Would love to replace the whole thing, but that isn't going to happen.
Will definitely keep away from the big box brands HP/compaq etc. with all the special space saving features meaning you cannot buy off the shelf peripheral upgrades.
Folks, I can't stress enough that gamers should build their own systems. With some guidance and online resources, such as www.pcpartpicker.com, your 1st system is relatively easy to build, will save you HUNDREDS of $$$ and is easily upgradeable when that time comes. For most of us, once the initial system is operable, upgrades will probably be a video card, and possibly a new CPU.
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Folks, I can't stress enough that gamers should build their own systems. With some guidance and online resources, such as www.pcpartpicker.com, your 1st system is relatively easy to build, will save you HUNDREDS of $$$ and is easily upgradeable when that time comes. For most of us, once the initial system is operable, upgrades will probably be a video card, and possibly a new CPU.
I will second that enthusiastically. For years I was afraid to build a computer. Than after I started AH I decided to take the plunge with the encouragement of a squadie who lived 800 miles away and some guidance from the internet. I've now built two and both started and ran without a problem.
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I have the same problem, proprietary motherboard, only the one 320 watt power supply available with the special non standard motherboard connectors and cables. Would love to replace the whole thing, but that isn't going to happen.
I finally did bite the bullet and ordered a evga750ti SC that gets its power from the PCI bus, needs no PS connector and has a 55-60 watt draw. Thanks to skuzzys post suggestion to check the 9800 vs 750 performance using their 9800 as the benchmark I will see what happens. Will definitely keep away from the big box brands HP/compaq etc. with all the special space saving features meaning you cannot buy off the shelf peripheral upgrades. Wish I would have kept my old S100 bus Imsai 8080.
I used a 750Ti and it did great! I gave it away to a player who is using it with great success. A few adjustments and I was playing with a frame rate of 59, which is monitor refresh rate (60)
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Folks, I can't stress enough that gamers should build their own systems. With some guidance and online resources, such as www.pcpartpicker.com, your 1st system is relatively easy to build, will save you HUNDREDS of $$$ and is easily upgradeable when that time comes. For most of us, once the initial system is operable, upgrades will probably be a video card, and possibly a new CPU.
That's a very good advice. Letting a builder shop build one according to a thoroughly thought through plan is a very good alternative. Such a plan can be achieved by making a compilation in PcPartpicker (http://www.pcpartpicker.com) and letting people here evaluate it.
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I'm not pissed off at HTc--but it's hard to know what you need-when there are no specifications listed for what you need to play AH3. nobody knows what the minimum video card is needed.
and if my computer can't play it, then I won't and i'll find something that it will.
That is a cop out. There is plenty of information contained within the confines of this BBS (ie Hardware & Software, O'Club, GD and even Technical Support) from which all of what you are going on about.....is available and searchable. Again, for the better part of two to three years, this "upgrade" word, has been known. Just like last time from AH to AHII.
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Another useful site to build your own puter is my son's site: http://www.logicalincrements.com/ They include a range of builds for various price points including tiers of compatible parts and a lot of information about different options and how to build your puter.
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http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series
The Define R5 XL is a kick bellybutton case.
You can not hear it run.
HiTech
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Hahaha, HT meets the sensor bot.
Fractal are great, I agree, their quiet/windowless models are very elegant, simple, and quiet. I had one ordered and waiting for one of the new PCs I just built but they sold it out from under me as I was a day late getting there. It took a month but they got another in, so I had to pull apart the Corsair 750 and rebuild it all, but it only took a couple hours while watching youtube vids.
I got the R5, the Fractal "enthusiast" full size (ish) case, fantastic quality, and very, very quiet. No window, but if you really need to show off your components taking the side panel off isn't hard. Their fans and fan controller aren't bad either.
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I used a 750Ti and it did great! I gave it away to a player who is using it with great success. A few adjustments and I was playing with a frame rate of 59, which is monitor refresh rate (60)
My 750ti came in and runs AH3 great with much higher settings than I plan on ever using. I don't know how many people bought 'off the shelf' PCs that have proprietary Motherboard/Power Supply issues like the HP8000 does, I didn't know till I popped the case a while back to check slots available.. The 750 was just the ticket since I can't afford to replace the entire system just to get up to a 450 watt power supply for high end cards. Even the after market 'add a 2nd power supply' option was a bit high and required a lot of hardware revamping. The gtx610 I took out used 30 watts and the 750ti uses 60 watts for a net gain of 30 watts all powered by the PCI bus. I did fudge and unplugged the dvd/cd drive to save a few more watts since I never use it. You're right Hajo, the 750ti runs AH3 quite well and at $50-60 used and around $100 new is not a wallet buster. Not as bad as the transition from AH1 to AH2 where I from a slow laptop that ran AH1 fine to a tower for AH2.
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Old arenas never die... they just fade away.......
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3 years ago I was very busy in life. My father was gravely ill. I was working long hours also. I did some research. I did not have the time to research and build a PC.
I was on call 24 hours a day with work and with my fathers illness. What I bought was an ASUS gaming PC. Why? Because I've built many PCs and I would only use ASUS Mobos.
They were rock solid, upgradable and very dependable. Since I've had this ASUS PC I've upgraded the power supply and two video cards with no problems.
ASUS gaming PCs are reasonably priced not 1800 dollars. 24 hour support and dependability and the ease of upgrading is the key.
Remember, if purchasing a PC DO NOT purchase one with onboard video. Make sure it has a card. Power supplies and video cards are easy to replace.
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3 years ago I was very busy in life. My father was gravely ill. I was working long hours also. I did some research. I did not have the time to research and build a PC.
I was on call 24 hours a day with work and with my fathers illness. What I bought was an ASUS gaming PC. Why? Because I've built many PCs and I would only use ASUS Mobos.
They were rock solid, upgradable and very dependable. Since I've had this ASUS PC I've upgraded the power supply and two video cards with no problems.
ASUS gaming PCs are reasonably priced not 1800 dollars. 24 hour support and dependability and the ease of upgrading is the key.
Remember, if purchasing a PC DO NOT purchase one with onboard video. Make sure it has a card. Power supplies and video cards are easy to replace.
I agree with Hajo about the ASUS motherboards: I bought a I BUY POWER gaming computer that has an ASUS mobo, and I have had the same experience Hajo is talking about. Except I bought mine instead of building my own because I am a computer illiterate.
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http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series
The Define R5 XL is a kick bellybutton case.
You can not hear it run.
HiTech
Now we know what really happens when the arenas and the web pages go down. Hitech forgot and hit the power button on his case when he left work that night. It's only an urban legend that Skuzzy trips on the power cord........ :O