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Title: Question.
Post by: JOACH1M on September 29, 2016, 10:14:49 PM
When a fight between you and someone else in inevitable, what do you do?  I have been in fights before playing hockey, but this is with someone I went to school with for a long time. And the actual fight might involve dragging people/friends who didn't need or want to be involved in any of it.

Do you just fight and move on from the outcome.

Or

Do you just let the other hit you, and then just press charges and further hurt their already crappy criminal record?

Not quite sure.
Title: Re: Question.
Post by: Devil 505 on September 29, 2016, 10:53:28 PM
I thought you finished high school already.
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 29, 2016, 11:12:35 PM
I thought you finished high school already.
hah

Me too man
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 29, 2016, 11:13:13 PM
Senior year of college and I still deal with this nonesense.
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Post by: Devil 505 on September 29, 2016, 11:31:04 PM
Senior year of college and I still deal with this nonesense.

Tell him to grow the frack up, then.


If that fails, then invite him to the DA.  :devil
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Post by: texasmom on September 29, 2016, 11:55:56 PM
Avoid if at all possible. If unavoidable, break his jaw and knock a few teeth out.
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Post by: Masherbrum on September 30, 2016, 12:27:27 AM
When a fight between you and someone else in inevitable, what do you do?  I have been in fights before playing hockey, but this is with someone I went to school with for a long time. And the actual fight might involve dragging people/friends who didn't need or want to be involved in any of it.

Do you just fight and move on from the outcome.

Or

Do you just let the other hit you, and then just press charges and further hurt their already crappy criminal record?

Not quite sure.

     It isn't worth the aggravation bro.  Let them spew the drivel and do what you need to do.   You don't need that BS dogging your record at any level.   If they were a friend, they wouldn't put another friend in that position.   If they are not a friend, then they shouldn't even be relevant in your life.   You know what you want and this is not something you want.   Maintain your focus, for both yourself and your family.   

My penny in the well.   
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Post by: JimmyD3 on September 30, 2016, 02:50:55 AM
There is always a time to fight and a time to walk away, but no one can make that call but you.  :salute
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Post by: 100Coogn on September 30, 2016, 03:01:49 AM
WWJD?  :old:

Coogan
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Post by: Vudak on September 30, 2016, 05:37:09 AM



Do you just let the other hit you, and then just press charges and further hurt their already crappy criminal record?


Under absolutely no circumstances should a man ever press charges because he lost a fist fight. Especially a pre-arranged one.

If you can talk it through, great. If you cant, do your best. If you lose, who cares? You play hockey. Sometimes you are the butt kicker and sometimes you are the butt kickee.
Title: Re: Question.
Post by: USCH on September 30, 2016, 06:17:58 AM
WWJD?  :old:

Coogan
what would Jason do? 

Well ya it's best to walk away bro, but if you can't walk away, make it a quick fight. And don't let anyone catch you.
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Post by: Oldman731 on September 30, 2016, 07:28:51 AM
There is always a time to fight and a time to walk away, but no one can make that call but you. 


Agreed.  A judgment call made at the time, not to be questioned afterward.

- oldman
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 08:01:12 AM
I tired talking to the kid. Doesn't really want to take into consideration what I had to say. I'm just going to stick with the plan of doing anything. There will be plenty of friends around me and will have my back. I just don't like the feeling that at any moment I might get sucker punched out of the blue. That's the type of person he is.
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Post by: puller on September 30, 2016, 08:07:54 AM
Take your elbow and try to put it through his face...fight over...if he says anything while laying on the ground bleeding...give him a quick stomp to the groin...then go back to beer pong... :aok
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Post by: Chalenge on September 30, 2016, 08:13:45 AM
Enroll in a Dojo, and then invite him to group class. Sensei will get you sorted.
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Post by: USCH on September 30, 2016, 08:34:00 AM
Take your elbow and try to put it through his face...fight over...if he says anything while laying on the ground bleeding...give him a quick stomp to the groin...then go back to beer pong... :aok
see i was going to say that in reverse first kick, because he is not watching your legs then elbow when he is bent over... then beer pong.
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Post by: NatCigg on September 30, 2016, 10:49:15 AM
You can be a man and say "hay brother, Im sorry we had a misunderstanding."  "Lets move on."
 Then walk away.

If he continues to talk behind your back as you walk away. decide a. is he bluffing or b. do i need to handle this.
If B is correct. Turn to him and as you move your momentum at him yell "Your bi## chose me!" and lead to his jaw or nose, elbow or fist is your preference.  continue to follow through with the attack until he is no long a threat.

Sounds like you have friends around so the fight should not spiral out of control.  :uhoh

Again, saying your sorry and moving on is the best bet.

Good luck !   :cool:

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Post by: morfiend on September 30, 2016, 11:15:40 AM
Invite him to a boxing ring!  Be sure to have a ref,he's there to make sure neither of you get really hurt!...... :devil

   Or you could just side kick him in the knee,takes out the biggest guys and he will remember you the rest of his life.

 Myself I would just walk away from it as fighting never solves or proves anything,if you cant walk away,see my first point.


  Hockey fights arent like a fight with out skates,the guy with the best balance usually wins and there's no kicking allowed in hockey!!!!! :devil


   :salute


 PS: I got my first set of boxing gloves when I could barely walk,Dad was quite the boxer and wanted me to learn how to defend myself,but I will only box with a ref,so I dont get hurt!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Post by: guncrasher on September 30, 2016, 12:39:16 PM
a real man will walk away from unimportant situations.  disregard the stupid comments about fighting.  it will get you nowhere.  been there.


semp
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Post by: LCADolby on September 30, 2016, 12:42:59 PM
I learned that it was always good to walk away... after you have kicked them squarely in the gentleman sausage.
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Post by: MickDono on September 30, 2016, 12:43:48 PM
Kick his arse
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Post by: mbailey on September 30, 2016, 01:01:47 PM
     It isn't worth the aggravation bro.  Let them spew the drivel and do what you need to do.   You don't need that BS dogging your record at any level.   If they were a friend, they wouldn't put another friend in that position.   If they are not a friend, then they shouldn't even be relevant in your life.   You know what you want and this is not something you want.   Maintain your focus, for both yourself and your family.   

My penny in the well.

A wise penny. Gone are the days of meeting after school and duke-ing it out with no consequences. Sounds like hes not worth the effort, and you have to much to loose.
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Post by: Brooke on September 30, 2016, 01:27:39 PM
If the guy attacks you, that's one thing.

But getting into an arranged fight is foolish.  You put yourself in the position to be sued or prosecuted.  How is that worth it?  There are outcomes from fights where you just threw your whole life away over some idiot who isn't worth it.  Don't let idiots determine your life path if you can help it.
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Post by: Bruv119 on September 30, 2016, 01:34:01 PM
Kick his arse

 :rofl

Is this over a chick or is he just being a knob?
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Post by: Wiley on September 30, 2016, 01:39:07 PM
If the guy attacks you, that's one thing.

But getting into an arranged fight is foolish.  You put yourself in the position to be sued or prosecuted.  How is that worth it?  There are outcomes from fights where you just threw your whole life away over some idiot who isn't worth it.  Don't let idiots determine your life path if you can help it.

What he said.

Wiley.
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Post by: SPKmes on September 30, 2016, 01:43:46 PM
Just take a splif with you...spark up puff puff pass to him ...as you do just say let's chat....

Have some beers for after too
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 02:27:21 PM
:rofl

Is this over a chick or is he just being a knob?
I dated a gal for 3 1/2 years we broke up.  She dated a this guy for a year and then broke up because she still wanted to be with me.

So here I am lol
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Post by: katanaso on September 30, 2016, 02:34:17 PM
I dated a gal for 3 1/2 years we broke up.  She dated a this guy for a year and then broke up because she still wanted to be with me.

So here I am lol

Not worth it.

Until there's a commitment, not worth a fight. :)

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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 02:42:09 PM
Not worth it.

Until there's a commitment, not worth a fight. :)
Im frankly not into her anymore either lmao
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Post by: BOBO on September 30, 2016, 02:55:25 PM
Just start feeding him as soon as he puts up his dukes.

Whoever calls the cops is generally treated as the victim.  If both of you want to leave them out of it, all the better.
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Post by: USCH on September 30, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
Walk away with a smile, its not your problem. Tell him to get bent, and don't worry.
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Post by: Meatwad on September 30, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
sounds like the kid has some deep rooted emotional and insecurity issues
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Post by: puller on September 30, 2016, 03:07:33 PM
I dated a gal for 3 1/2 years we broke up.  She dated a this guy for a year and then broke up because she still wanted to be with me.

So here I am lol

Tell her to kick rocks...tell him you told her to kick rocks...if he runs his mouth...make him swallow his teeth...if he calls the cops...make him swallow more teeth when you get out... :aok

I have walked away from plenty of potential fights...but if someone acts like they want some...give it to them...make an example of them...if you end up in jail...so what...unless you are trying for some type of profession that doesn't allow any type of criminal record...

I had three guys jump me one time over some BS...I really got messed up...they were my best friends in high school...I can promise you this though...they ain't ever gonna try it again... :aok
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 03:24:21 PM
sounds like the kid has some deep rooted emotional and insecurity issues
he really does. He picked on a lot of kids in highschool. I wasn't one of them, but he does have issues.
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 03:34:41 PM
He drove into a house drunk one day (under age) and the house he ran into ended up catching on fire too.  He has a fantastic record going right now.
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Post by: NatCigg on September 30, 2016, 03:45:18 PM
I dated a gal for 3 1/2 years we broke up.  She dated a this guy for a year and then broke up because she still wanted to be with me.

So here I am lol
I knew it was a girl  :rofl
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Post by: NatCigg on September 30, 2016, 03:47:51 PM
In the future...if you get caught with your pants down, and he wants to fight, run like hell.  Run like hell.
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 04:13:28 PM
I knew it was a girl  :rofl
literally in the back of my mind I was like "who the f*** is this and how does he know"    :rofl
Title: Re: Question.
Post by: Chris79 on September 30, 2016, 09:49:52 PM
This isn't 30 years ago when you can have a scrap and the cops just made sure it did not get out of hand.

A. If you win, you still lose. Either lawsuits or jail time.
B. Make sure the SOB doesn't bring a firearm, if he does it can get ugly. I gather from previous statements that he may be a bit unhinged.
C. If A and B are ignored, beat the living piss out of to the point the mere mention of you name will bring up memory's of fear and remorse. Kick him in the groin, when he doubles over grab him by the back of the head and drive his head into your knee. Afterward leg sweep him to the ground and step on his face. If done properly it ought to take less the 20 secs
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
I'm legal to conceal carry a firearm. Highly considering not drinking and knee capping him after he takes the first swing.
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 11:31:59 PM
Maybe I am drastic, but after the texts I have been getting, he is incriminating himself.
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Post by: Spikes on September 30, 2016, 11:46:28 PM
I'm legal to conceal carry a firearm. Highly considering not drinking and knee capping him after he takes the first swing.
You'll never win that legal battle.
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 11:49:02 PM
You'll never win that legal battle.
thats the problem.

Being in small town I'll always be "that guy who shot that other guy"

Kid is the definition of degenerate.
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Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2016, 11:50:07 PM
But all the texts I have gotten and even other family members have got, he's incriminated himself.
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Post by: NatCigg on October 01, 2016, 12:32:19 AM
From what I read, avoid this guy.  Your pride will be OK in the end.  If he corner you tell him your sorry.  And by God keep you guns at Home!
Title: Re: Question.
Post by: Oldman731 on October 01, 2016, 12:49:45 AM
You'll never win that legal battle.


True. That would be a colossal mistake.

- oldman
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Post by: SIK1 on October 01, 2016, 12:53:57 AM
I'm legal to conceal carry a firearm. Highly considering not drinking and knee capping him after he takes the first swing.
You just incriminated yourself.

I'm a little concerned how casually you talk about using deadly force against someone you said was a friend. Now I have to ask, are you now bangin' the girl, and is she worth it?

Maybe consider not drinking and then fighting him then maybe you could kick a drunks ass.  :x

What ever happened to the good old fist fight? Sometimes getting lumped up is a good thing.
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Post by: guncrasher on October 01, 2016, 02:27:47 AM
But all the texts I have gotten and even other family members have got, he's incriminated himself.

you just set yourself for premeditation.


semp
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Post by: Shuffler on October 01, 2016, 08:52:53 AM
I'm legal to conceal carry a firearm. Highly considering not drinking and knee capping him after he takes the first swing.

If you are CHL then you know you can't escalate. You can't even knowingly meet him for a fight while carrying your weapon.

If he attacks you somewhere then you can do what you need to for protection.

As to this...

But all the texts I have gotten and even other family members have got, he's incriminated himself

You are not the law. Turn the info over to the law and let them determine what needs to be done. Just because he does something stupid does not mean you can too.
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Post by: Gman on October 01, 2016, 10:41:25 AM
If he's sending threatening texts best course of action is to go to the local L/E and show them this, and make sure a file is started and you get the card of the officer you speak with.  Explain you're concerned for your safety, feel the threats are legitimate, that you have NO wish for violence, yet feel threatened and will defend yourself if necessary. 
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Post by: JOACH1M on October 01, 2016, 10:47:35 AM
You just incriminated yourself.

I'm a little concerned how casually you talk about using deadly force against someone you said was a friend. Now I have to ask, are you now bangin' the girl, and is she worth it?

Maybe consider not drinking and then fighting him then maybe you could kick a drunks ass.  :x

What ever happened to the good old fist fight? Sometimes getting lumped up is a good thing.
He was never a friend of mine. Just went to the same school as me.
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Post by: mthrockmor on October 01, 2016, 10:55:39 AM
Living in the corporate world, if I learned an applicant engaged in a fight their senior year of college, they would not get an interview. I'm not a prude, just not into people who engage in drama.

boo
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Post by: NatCigg on October 01, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
If he's sending threatening texts best course of action is to go to the local L/E and show them this, and make sure a file is started and you get the card of the officer you speak with.  Explain you're concerned for your safety, feel the threats are legitimate, that you have NO wish for violence, yet feel threatened and will defend yourself if necessary.

And at this point we need to reflect.  What is the ENTIRE story.  I got a sneaking suspicion jockich or Joaquin this lady walking away was not the only interaction.   :bolt:
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Post by: JimmyD3 on October 01, 2016, 12:19:42 PM
I'm legal to conceal carry a firearm. Highly considering not drinking and knee capping him after he takes the first swing.

After mentioning it here, DON"T DO IT!!!!!! Its called premeditation.
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Post by: JOACH1M on October 01, 2016, 12:24:39 PM
And at this point we need to reflect.  What is the ENTIRE story.  I got a sneaking suspicion jockich or Joaquin this lady walking away was not the only interaction.   :bolt:
Actually this was the first and only issue with the kid. His mom even confronted my mother at a restaurant about it!

Living in the corporate world, if I learned an applicant engaged in a fight their senior year of college, they would not get an interview. I'm not a prude, just not into people who engage in drama.

boo
Thats why I wanted to avoid it. I have a very clean record other than a window tint ticket and a speeding ticket. The other one on the other hand has multiple offenses.

After mentioning it here, DON"T DO IT!!!!!! Its called premeditation.
I had a beer today so it's in the safe now.
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Post by: Meatwad on October 01, 2016, 01:02:40 PM
Sounds like time to file charges for harassment
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Post by: Devil 505 on October 01, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
If he's sending threatening texts best course of action is to go to the local L/E and show them this, and make sure a file is started and you get the card of the officer you speak with.  Explain you're concerned for your safety, feel the threats are legitimate, that you have NO wish for violence, yet feel threatened and will defend yourself if necessary.

This is the best advice in this thread.
Title: Re: Question.
Post by: JOACH1M on October 01, 2016, 01:54:20 PM
Well Mr. Mouth is no longer an issue. (http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b461/snax6/62631D20-B84A-4A64-B6ED-C16BB7407D15_zpszrvlbij7.png) (http://s1046.photobucket.com/user/snax6/media/62631D20-B84A-4A64-B6ED-C16BB7407D15_zpszrvlbij7.png.html) Didn't take one hit the face :)
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Post by: MrRee on October 01, 2016, 04:40:22 PM
Drama will come and go all your life.... Your criminal record you keep forever.



(Edit: once your over 18 and it can not be  expunged  :old: )
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Post by: Devil 505 on October 01, 2016, 04:51:25 PM
Well Mr. Mouth is no longer an issue. (http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b461/snax6/62631D20-B84A-4A64-B6ED-C16BB7407D15_zpszrvlbij7.png) (http://s1046.photobucket.com/user/snax6/media/62631D20-B84A-4A64-B6ED-C16BB7407D15_zpszrvlbij7.png.html) Didn't take one hit the face :)

Details, man. Details!
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Post by: nrshida on October 01, 2016, 05:16:22 PM
This is the best advice in this thread.

+1 Certain people will go very far when driven by internal issues. I once had a similar problem and anticipating an attack I reported it to the police just to get it on record I wasn't causing it and I would defend myself. 'Goes without saying Mr. Shida, said the copper.

Hope you sort this out Jo. Look after yourself.  :salute

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Post by: JOACH1M on October 02, 2016, 02:02:16 AM
Details, I walked into a mutual friends college house. Shakes hands with the 6 guys I came with, sees me runs up grabs my shirt with both hands just above my pecks. I do the same. Pushed him into the wall behind him, atleast 6-7 people are now trying to break it up. He went for a headbutt, missed. But when he tried pulling me in close for it I got a decent clip of his cheek with my elbow.

The people breaking it up seperated us and that was kinda the end of it. Till about midnight when he starting getting chirpy again. But I left, walked my happy arse back home.
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Post by: Estes on November 03, 2016, 03:16:34 AM
Details, I walked into a mutual friends college house. Shakes hands with the 6 guys I came with, sees me runs up grabs my shirt with both hands just above my pecks. I do the same. Pushed him into the wall behind him, atleast 6-7 people are now trying to break it up. He went for a headbutt, missed. But when he tried pulling me in close for it I got a decent clip of his cheek with my elbow.

The people breaking it up seperated us and that was kinda the end of it. Till about midnight when he starting getting chirpy again. But I left, walked my happy arse back home.
All the smart advice to pump the brakes and watch what you say its nice to see youve learned nothing dixon