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Title: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 16, 2016, 07:19:04 PM
Well the Shehawks just got away with one, hard to believe none of the officials saw Sherman holding on to Julio's arm. #RiseUp
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: NatCigg on October 17, 2016, 08:29:32 AM
If he did not hold Julio down I assume it would of been a relatively easy catch. The trailing defender was on the ground, Julio had Sherman boxed out with the ball in front of him. I'm think Shermans normally cocky celebration was subdued due to the fact he knew he pulled down a very large man.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 17, 2016, 11:48:12 AM
When defenders and receivers all turn their backs to the end zone and jump up for a slightly under thrown ball (Thus the reason they all had to turn around), 9 out of 10 times the ref won't throw that flag. I thought it was a good no-call. :)
All roads to the super bowl will lead through either Minnesota or Washington. Come to grips with it. :)
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 17, 2016, 01:53:37 PM
So what are the chances that Romo is given the keys back? The way Prescott has the Cowboys offense running I dont think the Cowboys should take him out, the team just seems to click better with him at the wheel.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 17, 2016, 01:59:42 PM
Here is the reason he was open in the first place, illegal hands to the face at the line of scrimmage. https://www.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/57va99/reason_julio_jones_was_open_last_play_illegal/
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 17, 2016, 02:18:55 PM
So what are the chances that Romo is given the keys back? The way Prescott has the Cowboys offense running I dont think the Cowboys should take him out, the team just seems to click better with him at the wheel.
This will be an interesting decision by the head coach,er ...I mean, Jerry Jones. I'm guessing they keep Prescott in until he proves he can't do the job and so far, that's not been the case. Romo might be out of a job next year, depending on how his contract is structured.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Skuzzy on October 17, 2016, 03:32:36 PM
I like this quote.
" The most frightening part for the rest of the NFL: The Cowboys are winning while Prescott is learning on the job. Imagine how dangerous Dallas will be when this kid finally gets it."
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Zimme83 on October 17, 2016, 04:50:32 PM
That would be bad, 93% of the reason of me being in AH is to mock my squad CO for being a Cowboys fan. :D
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: BoilerDown on October 17, 2016, 10:42:34 PM
The most frightening part for the Cowboys: Tony Romo.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: JunkyII on October 17, 2016, 10:58:26 PM
Hate football right now...my fantasy teams are all suffering from injuries and the ravens....such a frustrating team to root for :bhead
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Skuzzy on October 18, 2016, 09:45:55 AM
Hate football right now...my fantasy teams are all suffering from injuries and the ravens....such a frustrating team to root for :bhead
Wait until Jerry Jones drops Romo back in as quarterback against the Eagles.....frustration? HA! You have no idea what frustration is!
Take a team on a winning streak, then drop in the quarterback who is most famous for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.....and you think you are frustrated!
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 18, 2016, 09:51:15 AM
Wait until Jerry Jones drops Romo back in as quarterback against the Eagles.....frustration? HA! You have no idea what frustration is!
Take a team on a winning streak, then drop in the quarterback who is most famous for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.....and you think you are frustrated!
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Lazerr on October 18, 2016, 01:52:19 PM
As a greenbay fan, i would laugh my tail off if they were to plug romo back in.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Copprhed on October 18, 2016, 03:49:01 PM
Two words for ya....Dirty birds.........
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Plazus on October 18, 2016, 04:14:21 PM
Meanwhile Terrelle Pryor is making opposing NFL defenders look like fools for wanting to play the game in the first place. If he keeps playing hard and at a high level, I see no reason he shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl after this year. :)
And...
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 18, 2016, 06:27:13 PM
As a greenbay fan, i would laugh my tail off if they were to plug romo back in.
and I benched Aaron Rodgers cpl weeks ago and picked Matty Ice off waivers! #riseup! Still think the Falcons would be even better if they would run a no huddle hurry up that Matt Ryan is so good at, just need a better defense tho.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Shuffler on October 19, 2016, 04:17:19 PM
Stealers season is over. Ben out 6-8 weeks? Clear path for the Pats to the super bowl this year in the weaker AFC conference.
bitter seahawks fan. glad you are more worried about the steelers than you're own team. :D
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Becinhu on October 21, 2016, 08:05:09 PM
Ben's injury is 2-6 week recovery time. But he is a cyborg and might not miss a week. I think he is back after bye week because there isn't another option on that bench.
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Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 21, 2016, 10:28:52 PM
bitter seahawks fan. glad you are more worried about the steelers than you're own team. :D
I'm not sure how you jumped to THAT conclusion (Because I don't "worry" about the Hawks with their depth, unlike Stealers playing in the obviously weaker AFC conference) but the Stealers season certainly hinges on one player, year after year. If he doesn't do good, the team dives. ;)
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: BaldEagl on October 22, 2016, 12:04:33 AM
One word: Skol! :aok
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Lazerr on October 22, 2016, 01:02:57 AM
I'm not sure how you jumped to THAT conclusion (Because I don't "worry" about the Hawks with their depth, unlike Stealers playing in the obviously weaker AFC conference) but the Stealers season certainly hinges on one player, year after year. If he doesn't do good, the team dives. ;)
all teams depend on the quarter back to have success. big ben got hurt yeah we might not be the number one seed now but we still have a shot to make it the the playoffs . thats all we can ask for how ever if russell wilson blows and ACL or some freak injury happens and i hope it dont because injurys to any player just sucks. then the hawks season would be in big trouble too. your Defense aint gonna carry you the refs gave them the game against atlanta :)
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 22, 2016, 10:51:50 PM
Atlanta? 17-3 Seahawk at halftime. WE gave THEM the game in the 3rd Q (Thanks to a pro bowl starter, Kam Chancellor, not starting and two blown coverages) Then our Hawks took it back with our CB Sherman being biotch slapped at the line of scrimmage (no flag?) and making a phenomenal defensive play.
You DO know our hawks are on the record books for being the best defense allowing the fewest points allowed in NFL history for 5 years straight right? They're reporting that back there, aren't they? Oh, maybe not. :D
All roads to the NFC go through Seattle, Dallas or Minnesota. Get used to it.
Hey, how about those Buckeyes? LOL!
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: BoilerDown on October 23, 2016, 04:10:39 PM
Skip Bayless is an idiot. I feel bad even writing that, its like truism or something.
This is something all NFL fans can agree on. That and "OH CRAP, JOE BUCK AND TROY AIKMAN ARE OUR GAME'S COLOR COMMENTATORS!" :mad: :mad: :mad:
Joe Buck and Kirk Herbstreit can be the two selected for our first trip to Mars. :rock
Hey, Joe Buck yourself already! Alright!
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: BoilerDown on November 27, 2016, 11:37:55 PM
I think that end-of-overtime field goal hit both uprights on its way through, crazy!
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: JunkyII on November 28, 2016, 12:10:45 AM
God I hope the Ravens beat the Steelers again so we for sure get into the playoffs....and also because whats better then beating the squeelers as a Ravens fan??? :devil
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 28, 2016, 06:23:03 AM
Not Bradford's fault. Our O-Line sucks. Despite that both games were close.
Absolutely.
It is near impossible to win in the NFL with the rash of injuries this team has had Considering the offense lost its starting left tackle, backup left tackle, starting right tackle, starting right tackle, running back, No. 1 receiver, left guard, right guard and center at various times. Bradford has played remarkably well.
Though I must admit I am not always impressed with the play calling on offense. But that's not Bradfords fault either.
I was at that first match up. FANTASTIC stadium. Makes the near brand new Giants stadium look like a dump by comparison.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Skuzzy on November 28, 2016, 06:49:13 AM
God I hope the Ravens beat the Steelers again so we for sure get into the playoffs....and also because whats better then beating the squeelers as a Ravens fan??? :devil
You must have loved that Cowboys/Steelers game.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: BoilerDown on December 04, 2016, 07:31:37 PM
Lions have to get some respect finally after today's win. No more excuses.
http://nflpickwatch.com/?week=13
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2016, 08:25:59 AM
Seahawks have been dealt a blow in the defensive backfield. Earl Thomas is out for the season after a 40-7 blow out of Carolina Panthers on Sunday night. :mad:
At 8-3-1 we'll probably win our division but missing Earl back there is going to open up the middle on 14+ pass routes for opposing QBs.
On a side note, Seahawks are going into their 5th straight year of fewest points allowed.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Biggamer on December 06, 2016, 01:06:15 PM
i think we will beat the ravens next time around junky :) GO STEELERS!
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Lazerr on December 06, 2016, 01:54:36 PM
Seahawks have been dealt a blow in the defensive backfield. Earl Thomas is out for the season after a 40-7 blow out of Carolina Panthers on Sunday night. :mad:
At 8-3-1 we'll probably win our division but missing Earl back there is going to open up the middle on 14+ pass routes for opposing QBs.
On a side note, Seahawks are going into their 5th straight year of fewest points allowed.
Greenbay definately needs a win against the hawks this week, especially with the lions playing well.
I believe lions have dallas coming up, so with a lions loss and a packers win, greenbay at detroit at the end of the season will be a huge game.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on December 12, 2016, 07:29:40 AM
Well that was a beat down! :(
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Lazerr on December 12, 2016, 02:30:55 PM
Rodgers might be playing the bears in a wheel chair.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Nathan60 on December 12, 2016, 03:09:46 PM
The Falcons are a fun team to watch on offense, but the D is meh except for Vic Beasely who alot of people here in Atlanta wanted to call a bust after lst year(yeah his rookie year, in which he was hurt) The Falcons defense is young but you can see the improvement from the start of the year even with so many injuries.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Zimme83 on December 12, 2016, 03:56:47 PM
Rodgers might be playing the bears in a wheel chair.
He would still be the best QB in the league...
It was one of the best games by the Packers in years and they can be really dangerous in the play offs, If Rodgers can play... Packers have 3 divisional games left so they should have everything in their own hands.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Shuffler on December 12, 2016, 04:59:51 PM
Rams are shopping for a HC.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: BoilerDown on December 12, 2016, 05:34:36 PM
The Lions forgot to lose to the Bears. Wonder if the Packers will be so lucky? Everyone keeps waiting for the Lions to lose but it Just. Doesn't. Happen. Longest current win streak in the NFL, tied with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaking of the Bucs, they play Dallas next. Then Dallas plays the Lions. If Dallas loses to Tampa and the Lions take care of the Giants this upcoming weekend, December 26th Monday Night Football will be for the lead of the NFC.
Think the Lions can't win? The Lions own the NFC East. 8 wins in last 10 games in the regular season. And Dallas is in serious danger of losing to Tampa, who is as dangerous as anyone right now, while Dallas looked pretty bad last night (both teams looked bad, don't even call that good defense, it was ineptitude on offense).
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: NatCigg on December 12, 2016, 05:49:15 PM
The lions are missing some running game but show sparks from their rookie line. Stafford runs the offense and his injury adds to the worry that comes with every game. :cool: The defense is good if healthy. They need a win this week in new york. If they can hold the run down and pressure the qb... :x
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Zimme83 on December 13, 2016, 01:02:37 AM
NFC North is still wide open, Detroit has the lead but also the toughest schedule. Lets hope that it all come down to the last Packers vs Lions game - and that both Rodgers and Stafford can play.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Skuzzy on December 13, 2016, 06:06:47 AM
It is time for the December Dallas Dump. They will not win another game for the rest of the year and will lose the first game of the playoffs. It does not matter who the quarterback is. This is what the Cowboys do.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: NatCigg on December 13, 2016, 07:04:15 AM
Maybe the refs get a call from Jerry again... :furious :old: :bolt:
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Lazerr on December 13, 2016, 10:30:06 AM
NFC North is still wide open, Detroit has the lead but also the toughest schedule. Lets hope that it all come down to the last Packers vs Lions game - and that both Rodgers and Stafford can play.
Yup, i am hoping for that scenario.
I just wish it was in greenbay and not detroit.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on December 13, 2016, 10:31:12 AM
It was one of the best games by the Packers in years and they can be really dangerous in the play offs, If Rodgers can play... Packers have 3 divisional games left so they should have everything in their own hands.
I would judge it by that one game against the Hawks. RW3 had 5 picks, 3 of which were deflected, behind the worst O line in the league. And, we were missing arguably the best safety in football, Earl Thomas.
Now, if GB had a game like that against Dallas, then I'd say they can be really dangerous.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: BoilerDown on December 13, 2016, 04:34:06 PM
I would judge it by that one game against the Hawks. RW3 had 5 picks, 3 of which were deflected, behind the worst O line in the league. And, we were missing arguably the best safety in football, Earl Thomas.
Now, if GB had a game like that against Dallas, then I'd say they can be really dangerous.
I really like what I have seen from GB the last games, the pieces is really falling into place and it seems that Rodgers is not affected by the injury. 5 straight win and if they manage to beat Lions next week I think they can be really dangerous in the play off, The NFC teams doesn't feel too scary in a playoff either..
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Lazerr on December 25, 2016, 10:11:03 AM
I really like what I have seen from GB the last games, the pieces is really falling into place and it seems that Rodgers is not affected by the injury. 5 straight win and if they manage to beat Lions next week I think they can be really dangerous in the play off, The NFC teams doesn't feel too scary in a playoff either..
He is a badddddd man...
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Rich46yo on December 25, 2016, 03:56:06 PM
It is time for the December Dallas Dump. They will not win another game for the rest of the year and will lose the first game of the playoffs. It does not matter who the quarterback is. This is what the Cowboys do.
From what I can see they have one weakness. They give up to many yards against the pass. They are murder to run on but their pass defense can hurt them. Even if things go right that can hurt them when they eventually have to play NE. I dont even like the match up vs GB. Im sure a lot of it is teams throwing like hell cause they are losing and cant run against them. They dont give up the points but they do give up the yards. Must be a lot of cover-2 being played.
I dont see anyone in the NFC beating them. My gut tells me they will be in Houston in Feb.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Skuzzy on December 26, 2016, 12:52:46 PM
Well, I have to eat some crow. They broke the dreaded December curse. I wish they did not get a "bye" in the first round of the playoffs though. They seem to need a steady rhythm to maintain themselves.
The Falcons could give them fits. The Giants, if they manage to hang on, would absolutely give them fits. Should be good games though.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: BoilerDown on December 26, 2016, 05:57:15 PM
Lions lost to the Giants, time to make it up vs. the Cowboys tonight! Also a shot at getting a first round bye would be nice. Or just finishing ahead of the Seahawks so there's no chance of a playoff game there.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Biggamer on December 26, 2016, 08:52:08 PM
GO STEELERS!
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: rpm on December 27, 2016, 04:01:51 AM
At least you can be glad to have traded for Sam Bradford. :D
I have no regrets about the Bradford trade. He has more then proven he can be effective when he is given the time. ad considering Its still pretty doubtful Teddy will be ready to start the beginning of next year if ever again. A number 1 pick isnt that bad when you get someone who has shown he can play. Take a good look at how many first round QBs have been selected that arent even in the league anymore let alone starting.
Bradford problem int he past is he played on really cr@ppy teams and had no surrounding cast. as well as injuries.
Considering as of this last game (green bay) The Vikes started their 7th offensive line combination of the season and a left tackle (TJ Clemmings) that not only couldnt block anyone that isnt in a wheelchair but probably would struggle with someone actually IN a wheelchair. and at one point they were playing their 4th string tackle And he is literally on his second offensive coordinator of the season. And no run game, Bradford has played amazingly well.(literally, historically well technically) I doubt Favre, Brady,Rogers,Tarkenton, Or, anyone with the last name of Manning would have done any better
In all of their 8 losses, the Vikings were in the game down to the last series in 4 of them losing by 6 points or less in 2 of those and in 3 points or less in the other 2
11/06 Lions (the game I attended) 22-16 in overtime 11/23 Redskins 26-20 11/24 Lions 16-13 12-01 Dallas 17-15 (A game they won in almost every statistical category but the score)
In their other 4 losses they were only blown out twice
12/18 against the Colts 34-6 12/24 against the Pack 38-25
The other 2 they lost by 11 and 10 points.
10/23 Eagles 21-10 10/31 Bears 20-10
The Vikes have had their woes for certain. but it can be argued that they realistically should have won in the first 4 losses listed when you consider 3 of their first 5 wins were whippings of playoff bound teams. Giants 24-10 and the first meeting with Green Bay 21-17 (7 of the Giants and Green Bay points came in 4th qtr junk time) and the Texans 31-13
And other losses were against teams they should have easily beaten
I've been both fortunate and unfortunate enough to have been able to watch every play this team has played this season. (with one to go)
When Bradford has been given the time to throw he has proven himself to be nothing less then a very good and VERY accurate passer capable of putting the ball all over the field The problem is the O line. and of that nobody deserves more blame then Clemmings. This may be a team sport. And for certain there have been mistakes made by most of the players, sometimes at critical moments. But there hasnt been a single player twho has consistently screwed up other then Clemmings. No single individual player has consistently done more to cost this team wins, to give up more sacks to commit more penalties at critical moments then Clemmings.
In the end though realistically. The accumulation of both game and season long injuries from the starting QB, to virtually the entire first and second string of the O line, hell even Zimmer was only working with one eye for a few weeks. It was all just too much to overcome.
None of that is the blame of Bradford. Or even Zimmer. Both of whom I think deserve a ton of credit. Bradford for surviving and playing better then anyone realistically had a right to expect. And Zimmer who managed to keep his team close to winning most games. This team had every reason to fall apart very early in the year and didn't. I give the team a lot of credit for not doing a Full Metal Jacket Pvt Pyle like soap in a sock beating on Clemmings. He certainly deserves it.
If there is top of the turd pile blame to be had. it falls not on Zimmer. But on Spielman For virtually ignoring the O Line with early picks for nearly 10 years. spielman has picked only 2 offensive lineman within the first 3 rounds since 2007. Matt Kalil (starting left tackle out due to injury) and Phil Loadholt who retired in July due to injury.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: BaldEagl on January 02, 2017, 03:04:39 AM
The problem is the O line. and of that nobody deserves more blame then Clemmings. This may be a team sport. And for certain there have been mistakes made by most of the players, sometimes at critical moments. But there hasnt been a single player twho has consistently screwed up other then Clemmings. No single individual player has consistently done more to cost this team wins, to give up more sacks to commit more penalties at critical moments then Clemmings.
Nope. It's Tony Sparano and it's funny no one mentions it. He's absolutely mis-managed the offensive line. He let Loadholt retire (maybe he would have anyway), decided a declining Andre Smith was an adequate substitute (likely a shared decision with Spielman and Zimmer), released John Sullivan, promoting Joe Berger who had been the best interior back-up in the NFL to replace him (thereby reducing line depth), had Spielman's ear in the hiring of Boone (who's contract we're now stuck with... BTW did you notice the holes in the defense today with Berger at LG instead of Boone?), cut Austin Smith who'd played sparingly at LT in 2015 then resigned him to the practice squad never activating him and I wouldn't doubt played a role in Mike Harris staying away from the team all season (but that's pure speculation). I could continue but I'll spare you (where the hell did Carter Bykowski go?).
What was his thing in the pre-season... he wanted to see players that could "dent someone"? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
TJ's not great at RT. He's poor at LT but give him a break. Look to his leadership. If you put guys into situations they can't handle then you haven't done your job as a coach.
If there is top of the turd pile blame to be had. it falls not on Zimmer. But on Spielman For virtually ignoring the O Line with early picks for nearly 10 years. spielman has picked only 2 offensive lineman within the first 3 rounds since 2007. Matt Kalil (starting left tackle out due to injury) and Phil Loadholt who retired in July due to injury.
I agree with you on with Spielman but Zimmer's equally culpable. They've picked largely defensive players in the upper rounds since his arrival. Spielman's mid to late round approach to the OL is showing up on gameday. That said last year Detroit got the guy we needed (Taylor Decker) simply because they picked ahead of us then Green Bay traded to get ahead of us in the second round to get what should have been our plan B option (Jason Spriggs). Spielman's a good talent evaluator but his weaknesses are the O line and wide receiver's. Too bad that now he's got Tony Sapano in his ear and not Norv Turner.
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Zimme83 on January 02, 2017, 03:36:20 AM
But have you seen it: Packers are running the ball :confused: And look at this, how did he got away with that??? http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2017010102/2016/REG17/packers@lions#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000767836&tab=videos
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 02, 2017, 08:18:16 AM
I've watched (painfully) since they entered the league.
Nope. It's Tony Sparano and it's funny no one mentions it. He's absolutely mis-managed the offensive line. He let Loadholt retire (maybe he would have anyway), decided a declining Andre Smith was an adequate substitute (likely a shared decision with Spielman and Zimmer), released John Sullivan, promoting Joe Berger who had been the best interior back-up in the NFL to replace him (thereby reducing line depth), had Spielman's ear in the hiring of Boone (who's contract we're now stuck with... BTW did you notice the holes in the defense today with Berger at LG instead of Boone?), cut Austin Smith who'd played sparingly at LT in 2015 then resigned him to the practice squad never activating him and I wouldn't doubt played a role in Mike Harris staying away from the team all season (but that's pure speculation). I could continue but I'll spare you (where the hell did Carter Bykowski go?).
What was his thing in the pre-season... he wanted to see players that could "dent someone"? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
TJ's not great at RT. He's poor at LT but give him a break. Look to his leadership. If you put guys into situations they can't handle then you haven't done your job as a coach.
I agree with you on with Spielman but Zimmer's equally culpable. They've picked largely defensive players in the upper rounds since his arrival. Spielman's mid to late round approach to the OL is showing up on gameday. That said last year Detroit got the guy we needed (Taylor Decker) simply because they picked ahead of us then Green Bay traded to get ahead of us in the second round to get what should have been our plan B option (Jason Spriggs). Spielman's a good talent evaluator but his weaknesses are the O line and wide receiver's. Too bad that now he's got Tony Sapano in his ear and not Norv Turner.
Been a fan since 72 or 3. I forget.
Loadholt was gone regardless, Sullivan was at best a crapshoot with his injury problems, and one of the things lost in all this is we are still waiting to hear exactly what the hell happened to Mike Harris which still remains a mystery (non football related injury)
For sure the coaching has to take some heat for it. But to blame it on Tony Sparano? Im not a HUGE Sparano fan but thats just silly. He was only brought in this off season and the line problems extend to last season as well. Coaches no matter how good can only work with what they have. Since we have had two line coaches in as many years. You have to look at the players.
And c'mon. Clemmings has only been marginally better at right tackle then left, And thats being generous as he has sucked almost as much at right tackle. And its not just his ability to block but penalties also as well as overall effort. There were times this year I didnt even see much in the way of effort either. Those latter two arent the coaches fault. Beyond that. He obviously doesnt have the speed to play either tackle position. Its not just his footwork or technique (as the coaches have been claiming) What I do blame the coaches for is not moving Boone to the outside and giving that a shot. Or giving anything else a try instead of simply sticking with Clemmings who obviously cant cut it. At least at the Tackle position.
The left tackle position yesterday was night and day from Clemmings play to that of Hill. Overall I thought the entire line played better yesterday. But none stood out more then that of Clemmings replacement
Boones play has been....adequate. But not as great as we would have hoped.
Still. The list of injuries on the line cant be ignored. We dont know how well this line would have played had it been able to remain relatively healthy. In a correction to my last post. 9 different line combinations (not 7) they've started this year due to injuries. Thats absurd. O Line isnt just an individual thing which is why it usually takes the offense longer to come together then a defense. and still. Even with a patchwork line. No linemans play has been worse on a consistent basis then Clemmings
Yes Zimmerman deserves his share of blame but bottom line is Spielman is the GM. Not Zimmer. (didnt we do this once with Chilly already?) Spielman is supposed to be in charge of getting players. Or at least act as a brake and voice of reason on the coach. And word has it that Zimmer didnt even want Alexander but was talked into it by Spielman. so cant even blame all the early defensive picks on Zimmer either
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Ripsnort on January 03, 2017, 07:36:18 AM
Key starters out for Hawks (Earl Thomas, Lockett) combined with a pathetic offensive line.... I don't think the team makes it past the 2nd round. Hell, Detroit might knock us out the 1st round!
:mad:
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Lazerr on January 07, 2017, 03:06:44 AM
go greenbay..
time to show you guys yet again, what a superbowl run looks like...
be afraid... he is a badddddddd man :rolleyes: :cheers:
Title: Re: A good night to reflect on NFL football
Post by: Nefarious on January 07, 2017, 01:33:38 PM
Would like to see the Steelers win it all, but I'm not sure it will happen.
I would also like to see the Falcons go for the NFC, I think they are sleepers this year. I mean, you can't blow it in the playoffs every year right?
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Post by: DREDIOCK on January 08, 2017, 01:39:24 PM
Clemmings has only been marginally better at right tackle then left, And thats being generous as he has sucked almost as much at right tackle. And its not just his ability to block but penalties also as well as overall effort. There were times this year I didnt even see much in the way of effort either.
Anyone remember that Wendys commercial "summer wear....Winter wear" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CaMUfxVJVQ
Summer wear TJ Clemmings Left Tackle
(https://i.imgflip.com/1h8znj.gif)
Winter wear TJ Clemmings Right tackle (https://i.imgflip.com/1h8zuc.gif)
To all those with teams still in the hunt. Good luck
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Post by: Zimme83 on January 09, 2017, 05:39:36 AM
Slow start but impressive performance by the Packers. Giants where annihilated and im looking forward to the game against the Cowboys. Packers have shown that they can be a contender for the title..
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Post by: rpm on January 14, 2017, 06:58:59 PM
Dallas will be my favorite team today. Packers fans are the worlds most intolerable winners.
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Post by: DmonSlyr on January 15, 2017, 03:34:46 PM
Let's go ATL baby! That's what I'm talking about :x
So glad to shut Seattle down.
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Post by: Zimme83 on January 15, 2017, 04:48:42 PM
Its a slaughter so far...
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Post by: Skuzzy on January 15, 2017, 04:52:26 PM
Yep, Dallas keeps getting worse. The sidelines looks like a bunch of tired old men ready to throw in the towel. Third drive is a 3 and out, meanwhile Aaron Rogers has all day long to throw the ball.
Dallas is done. Pretty sad game.
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Post by: Zimme83 on January 15, 2017, 04:53:31 PM
Yep, Dallas keeps getting worse. The sidelines looks like a bunch of tired old men ready to throw in the towel. Third drive is a 3 and out, meanwhile Aaron Rogers has all day long to throw the ball.
Dallas is done. Pretty sad game.
Bounced back there a bit..
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Post by: Skuzzy on January 15, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
A little, but Green Bay is still playing like they want it more and Dallas still keeps shooting themselves in the foot.
Let's see what the second half opening drive looks like. I think Green Bay knows if they can march it down the field on the drive, they will win the game. That is a big incentive.
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Post by: Skuzzy on January 16, 2017, 10:03:25 AM
Green Bay deserved the win.
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Post by: MiloMorai on January 16, 2017, 10:07:09 AM
GB by a field goal, last play of the game. :x
https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=nfl&sh=2
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Post by: Skuzzy on January 16, 2017, 10:08:44 AM
Yep, and he had to kick it twice, but regardless of how close the score was Green Bay deserved the win. They played a better game than the Cowboys did.
You cannot come into a playoff game and only play 1.5 quarters and expect to win.
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Post by: Zimme83 on January 16, 2017, 10:58:58 AM
One of the greatest games I've seen, Cowboys at least regained their honor and put up a good fight, its hard to defend against that last drive.
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Post by: mbailey on January 16, 2017, 11:18:40 AM
As a Pittsburgh fan, all I can say is if they think they are gonna beat the Patriots by kicking all field goals....they are sadly mistaken.
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Post by: Nefarious on January 16, 2017, 12:42:31 PM
Key starters out for Hawks (Earl Thomas, Lockett) combined with a pathetic offensive line.... I don't think the team makes it past the 2nd round. Hell, Detroit might knock us out the 1st round!
:mad:
I hate it when I use stats and logic and I'm right. :bhead
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Post by: Lazerr on January 17, 2017, 07:52:41 AM
Agreed. I, however, remain optimistic. I think the Steelers can win this game.
I agree.. they have a good shot to beat them
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Post by: Nathan60 on January 22, 2017, 06:50:08 PM
and that is how you wrap up the MVP vote and punch a ticket to the super bowl, and the D has stepped up big last 2 games. (http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/Nathan60215/fWKLZAm_zpsqqgql7yc.png) (http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/Nathan60215/media/fWKLZAm_zpsqqgql7yc.png.html)
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Post by: DmonSlyr on January 22, 2017, 06:58:06 PM
LETS GO FALCONS! THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!
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Post by: Zimme83 on January 22, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
Never liked Packers anyway...
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Post by: Brooke on January 22, 2017, 10:00:38 PM
It looks like it will be an exciting Superbowl.
I'm rooting for Brady and the Patriots.
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Post by: Nathan60 on January 22, 2017, 10:23:20 PM
I'm torn G.O.A.T. or the team that plays for the place I've lived since I was 7. I have been a Matt Ryan fan tho since his days at BC so I would really like to see him shut up all the haters(if they are stil out there).
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Post by: caldera on January 23, 2017, 04:05:04 AM
Didn't mind them until being pelted by a never ending barrage of commercials with Rodgers and Matthews, while trying to watch my hapless Eagles implode.
Go Falcons!
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Post by: Nefarious on January 23, 2017, 10:11:57 AM
Rooting for the Falcons.
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Post by: Zimme83 on January 23, 2017, 10:23:49 AM
Patriots will win, they are a better team and has far more experience.
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Post by: mbailey on January 23, 2017, 01:27:29 PM
Same here.....was reading about Matt Ryan....his grandfather is a Pearl Harbor survivor. Seems as good a reason as any to root for the kid. Oh, that and hes not Tom Brady and the Patriots :D
Friggin Steelers :furious
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Post by: Ripsnort on January 23, 2017, 01:35:42 PM
LOL Henson would come in put Michigan in bad spots and Brady woudl save them, I wanted Atlanta to win but will accept Brady getting 5, leadng the greatest superbowl comeback and setting passing record. Next year Falcons get theirs they are still young and will be HUNGRIER.
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Post by: FLOOB on February 05, 2017, 09:46:41 PM
America won the superbowl again!
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Post by: Nathan60 on February 05, 2017, 09:47:44 PM
Gotta admit the Patriots really do put on some great Super bowls they have won or lost by a touchdown or less in 7 of 9
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Post by: shotgunneeley on February 05, 2017, 10:01:11 PM
Just like so many games I've witnessed this year: one team has a dominating first half with everything going for them - then the second half begins...
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Post by: Brooke on February 05, 2017, 10:06:57 PM
The New English defeated the Atlantites from what I gather.
The Atlanteans were very advanced, and that showed in their football team's awesome game play in the 1st half. But much was lost in the sinking of their island empire, which the Niwe AEnglisc seem to have retrieved from the sea floor through the process of a century of using nets in the Atlantic.
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Post by: Zimme83 on February 06, 2017, 06:59:26 AM
I cannot believe that the Falcons screwed up the field goal opportunity with ~4 mins left, 3 point there and they would have won... (Most likely). They didnt have the nerves to handle the situation..
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Post by: NatCigg on February 06, 2017, 07:47:16 AM
I cannot believe that the Falcons screwed up the field goal opportunity with ~4 mins left, 3 point there and they would have won... (Most likely). They didnt have the nerves to handle the situation..
Yep. Gut wrenching.
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Post by: Skuzzy on February 06, 2017, 08:46:52 AM
The Super Bowl was played last night?
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Post by: MiloMorai on February 06, 2017, 08:48:20 AM
The game was rigged.
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Post by: Zimme83 on February 06, 2017, 09:48:01 AM
I know its hard to do in another way but winning the coin toss in OT is more or less a free ticket to victory, a coin toss should not have that impact on a game of this magnitude.
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Post by: Skuzzy on February 06, 2017, 10:01:10 AM
I know its hard to do in another way but winning the coin toss in OT is more or less a free ticket to victory, a coin toss should not have that impact on a game of this magnitude.
I always thought overtime, in playoff games should be like this;
No coin toss. The last team to tie the game up gets the ball kicked to them first. However that drive ends (score, downs...), it ends and they then kick it back (no punts) to the other team.
If they are still tied at the end of that, then repeat until a winner emerges.
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Post by: BuckShot on February 06, 2017, 10:02:32 AM
All your base are belong to the New England Patriots
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Post by: Nefarious on February 06, 2017, 10:04:16 AM
The OT rules are much better than they were. However, college OT rules are still superior.
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Post by: Zimme83 on February 06, 2017, 10:07:31 AM
I always thought overtime, in playoff games should be like this;
No coin toss. The last team to tie the game up gets the ball kicked to them first. However that drive ends (score, downs...), it ends and they then kick it back (no punts) to the team.
If they are still tied at the end of that, then repeat until a winner emerges.
Is not a bad idea. +1.
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Post by: mbailey on February 06, 2017, 11:35:01 AM
I cannot believe that the Falcons screwed up the field goal opportunity with ~4 mins left, 3 point there and they would have won... (Most likely). They didnt have the nerves to handle the situation..
Agree Zimme, but After what the Bengals did last year in the playoffs with the Steelers......nothing in football surprises me anymore