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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Drano on March 04, 2017, 10:07:29 AM
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So I'm a few weeks into a 1060. Lovin it btw. I see there's a driver update available. Been a long time since I've had a green team card so I was wondering if there's anything I oughta know about the process that's different from my usual practice with an AMD card? I'd usually uninstall the driver at the control panel, restart in safe mode, run DDU to clean out everything that might be left, restart in normal mode, then install the new drivers, restart again. Is that the proper drill for NVidia as well? Thanks.
I know the drivers can auto update but I'm not about all the extra gobbledegook bloat and I'd rather have control over what's happening. Besides, it's just another group of stuff to shut off IMO.
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I've used the auto updater with my 970 the entire time I've had it, no issues so far.
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Thx. Just wondering if that whole thing was necessary.
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For a new model like the 1060 new drivers are somewhat necessary to update. Your method of cleaning everything isn't bad at all. However, since you're sticking with the same make and model, a simplified approach might be enough for most of the updates, a more thorough maintenance cleaning done semi-annually or so. Also, only install the components you really need. For a regular monitor the 3D stuff isn't needed at all, for example.
Older cards won't necessarily get any benefit from updating the drivers so disabling the automatic features might be a good idea.
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I'm running a 980GTX, but I update the driver manually, but I'm notified automatically. I try to stay current on the drivers. :airplane:
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I rarely down load updated drivers for gtx 680 it never looks any different AT all EVER wheni have done updates in the past.
All these update seem to do is mention other games that it will improve, if you play anything but AH you should be made to have a icon saying so in game. (A brown icon)
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You might want to disable all the telemetry (fancy word for spyware) tracking.
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/07/nvidia-telemetry-tracking/
I would not install the "GeForce Experience" either, if that is an option.
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You might want to disable all the telemetry (fancy word for spyware) tracking.
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/07/nvidia-telemetry-tracking/
I would not install the "GeForce Experience" either, if that is an option.
Oh yeah that's a no brainer for both. I was just wondering if there was anything about the process of updating I oughta know. Seems I can just safely update without going thru so many hoops. Thanks all.
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Heh, I installed "Geforce Experience" on all 4 of our desktops, and on my gaming laptop. There is a method to this madness - on March 7 nVidia is giving away 108 1080tis in a contest to users registered and using Geforce Experience. If I don't see I "hurray, you win" email by March 10th, it's adios GF Ex.
Skuzzy, any idea on how much performance Gf Ex sucks from AH3?
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Your not getting a free graphics card :old:
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Heh, I installed "Geforce Experience" on all 4 of our desktops, and on my gaming laptop. There is a method to this madness - on March 7 nVidia is giving away 108 1080tis in a contest to users registered and using Geforce Experience. If I don't see I "hurray, you win" email by March 10th, it's adios GF Ex.
Skuzzy, any idea on how much performance Gf Ex sucks from AH3?
If you are on a really fast card, such as a 1070, or better, you probably will not know it until you get into a big furball. It amounts to a few percentage points of performance being lost.
If you need to eek out the most performance you can, from your video card, then this is one thing that can go.
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ugh, why would any of us need to "squeak out" anymore performance on video cards/systems rated WELL over what's being used to generate this game. I recall HT using a 980 and "all working well"...
So why do 1060/1080 video cards need to have anything tweeked?!?!?! Is the game THAT fragile?! :mad:
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ugh, why would any of us need to "squeak out" anymore performance on video cards/systems rated WELL over what's being used to generate this game. I recall HT using a 980 and "all working well"...
So why do 1060/1080 video cards need to have anything tweeked?!?!?! Is the game THAT fragile?! :mad:
You took that post in the wrong direction. Some people want to squeeze out as much performance as they can from their hardware and hate giving up any performance to useless applications when running a game.
I am that way. I hate software which chews up performance and brings zero benefit to the application I am running at the moment.
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Use Geforce Experience and I record using its shadowplay ...in 4k. I also use it to live stream...a difference in only a few FPS when I record is all I see....and when its 140-160 to start with not even noticable.
I also update using Geforce Experience. Have it notifiy me, and then I update when I choose.
I will usually use DDU once a year to "clean things up" (throw back to my old days), but unless I see queertrons, I usually don't bother with the "old style" of driver uninstall/install.
Welcome to the "green side".....
Cheers!
Dobs
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I found that using Geforce Experience to update required login with facebook, twitter, etc. None of which I subscribe to so I removed it. If there is any built in update process, I haven't found it but I haven't tried to visit their forums to look for an answer either.
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You're better off using OBS' NVEnc codec than using Shadowplay, unless you absolutely can't be assed to know anything at all about how it works.
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Not sure what the issue is with Geforce Experience. Seems like just recommended game settings to me. Easy to roll back if you don't like. Am I missing something?
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Not sure what the issue is with Geforce Experience. Seems like just recommended game settings to me. Easy to roll back if you don't like. Am I missing something?
As Skuzzy said, "chews up performance and brings zero benefit to the application I am running at the moment". At worst, programs that check for updates may cause a hiccup in your game just when you're about to kill a 262 in an I16.
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I don't like background software interrupting my escape from reality but I guess I stay too current with hardware to notice any ill effects. I almost miss the days of DOS with exclusive control over the hardware and tweaking the config.sys, autoexec.bat, and later QEMM settings. Almost ;)
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I will let Nvidia take a shot at optimizing my "experience" though but I do reserve the right to decide what I like best.
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I will let Nvidia take a shot at optimizing my "experience" though but I do reserve the right to decide what I like best.
You do realize that is 99.9% marketing? They are more interested in gathering data from your computer than optimizing anything for it.
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You do realize that is 99.9% marketing? They are more interested in gathering data from your computer than optimizing anything for it.
I've had nothing but great experiences with this software, it's made my gaming within known games much better and faster. It even allows me to capture the errors and programming failures with it's video capture system, that the in-game film viewer didn't catch... (shadow seizure feature, framerate akin to an Apple2e, floppy chicken opponents, CV groups uncontrollable, master of the universe tree branches)
So if you're going to allude that another bit of software "chews up performance" with respect to your software, I would respond with, wow, is AH3 THAT fragile?
I KNOW my hardware can run AH3 5 times over, yet still doesn't seem to run "well". If I had AH3 in my geoforce experience, I wouldn't need to tweek my system to get the game to run as it should... (it really bothers me that I have a more powerful system than the one this game was designed on, yet cannot get the game to appear as it was intended)
Sigh...i guess thanks geoforce for my poor experience with AH3? :bhead
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Still do not get the comment about AH3 being fragile.
It is a well known fact that GeForce Experience causes some loss of performance of the video hardware it is running on. It does not matter what game is being played.
I am not familiar with the problems you are having with AH3, but this is not the thread for that. If you are having issues, then open a thread in the tech support forum and let's see what can be done.
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Updating NVidia Drivers? --> but whyyyy???? :bolt: :banana:
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I found that using Geforce Experience to update required login with facebook, twitter, etc. None of which I subscribe to so I removed it. If there is any built in update process, I haven't found it but I haven't tried to visit their forums to look for an answer either.
Not true....it gives you the option to link your accounts so you can live stream directly to them.
None of those are required...
As far as OBS....tried it...works...clunky interface IMO. Nvidia shadowplay utilizes inherent GPU capabilities to reduce impact on performance....which, since OBS is agnostic, I'm not sure is present in others. I have used Action! before...they have a neat feature which uses your HD graphics embedded in your CPU to record with, while vid card does what vid cards do.... Was great till they did an 'update' and broke it....took them along time to "make it right again" and in the meantime I drifted over to shadowplay.
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New Driver is out.
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Nvidia experience doesn't take much from the computer from my experience. Its nice to have as a tool.
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I am sensitive to uncommanded activity and I don't notice it.
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So far as spying for commercial purposes I don't care so long as my machine performance is not impacted, even slightly. There are free tools like ccleaner that remove any database repository to be pulled from my machine by the unscrupulous. I'm not so naive to believe nothing is garnered by my activities but I have guns. :D
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If you are on a really fast card, such as a 1070, or better, you probably will not know it until you get into a big furball. It amounts to a few percentage points of performance being lost.
If you need to eek out the most performance you can, from your video card, then this is one thing that can go.
I noticed a bigger hit then that. First thing I did was get rid of GFE and its much better now.
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The impact will vary based on which video card you have. Generally speaking, the faster the video card the less the impact in a game will be.
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Is that a possible source of the stutters?
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Not really stutters, but it has been known to cause games to minimize as focus shifts.
I just wanted to add support of the Display Driver Uninstaller whenever you update Nvidia drivers. After installing fresh drivers you should reboot, and then if you feel confident enough edit your registry to remove any telemetry. Nvidia is not alone in collecting data. O&O created Shutup10, which really works great, but you have to remember to check it every now.
Microsoft is supposed to be rolling out a fix for the video stutters beginning in another week (5 days).
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For the sake of idiots like me, could someone pronounce a list of how to update Nvidea drivers? eg, what and how to delete old drivers, etc.
Thanks
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As far as OBS....tried it...works...clunky interface IMO. Nvidia shadowplay utilizes inherent GPU capabilities to reduce impact on performance....which, since OBS is agnostic, I'm not sure is present in others.
That depends on the OBS codec you choose. If you choose NVEnc, as I mentioned, it uses the same video card tech that Shadowplay does to offload the encoding to the GPU. Except you can configure everything, instead of just what Shadowplay lets you configure. NVEnc is only usable if you have the right kind of Nvidia graphics card installed, it is not video card agnostic.
And the interface for OBS is much improved in OBS Studio instead of OBS Classic. They only recently updated the web site to lead people primarily to the better version.
Like I said, if you can't be assed to figure out any settings, then (keep on using) use Shadowplay though, as it works for people without requiring them to know very much.
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That depends on the OBS codec you choose. If you choose NVEnc, as I mentioned, it uses the same video card tech that Shadowplay does to offload the encoding to the GPU. Except you can configure everything, instead of just what Shadowplay lets you configure. NVEnc is only usable if you have the right kind of Nvidia graphics card installed, it is not video card agnostic.
And the interface for OBS is much improved in OBS Studio instead of OBS Classic. They only recently updated the web site to lead people primarily to the better version.
Like I said, if you can't be assed to figure out any settings, then (keep on using) use Shadowplay though, as it works for people without requiring them to know very much.
Or more simply it just works....without having the arsepain of figuring out a clunky interface, for the same capability of an already loaded program. Keep waving your pompoms...someone I'm sure appreciates your cheering for your favorite program. I tried it, found it cumbersome with no added benefit and moved on..
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Or more simply it just works....without having the arsepain of figuring out a clunky interface, for the same capability of an already loaded program. Keep waving your pompoms...someone I'm sure appreciates your cheering for your favorite program. I tried it, found it cumbersome with no added benefit and moved on..
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I'm in the same boat as Dobs on this. My favorite thing about Shadowplay is being able to use the ShadowRecord feature. It keeps me having to record every single sortie. Now I can just fly about and if i have a good fight, press a button and it auto records the previous 20mins.
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For the sake of idiots like me, could someone pronounce a list of how to update Nvidea drivers? eg, what and how to delete old drivers, etc.
Thanks
For cleaning the previous drivers: http://www.wagnardsoft.com/content/display-driver-uninstaller-ddu-v17055-released (http://www.wagnardsoft.com/content/display-driver-uninstaller-ddu-v17055-released)
For installing and fine tuning:
http://www.ghacks.net/2012/12/26/make-sure-you-only-install-nvidia-drivers-you-need/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2012/12/26/make-sure-you-only-install-nvidia-drivers-you-need/)
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/07/nvidia-telemetry-tracking/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/07/nvidia-telemetry-tracking/)
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/27/disable-nvidia-streamer-service-to-improve-video-card-performance/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/27/disable-nvidia-streamer-service-to-improve-video-card-performance/)