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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: flippz on July 22, 2017, 07:37:35 AM
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where are all these pilots at the rest of the week? last night it was amazing and over whelming at many times with the amount of pilots in the MA. I know nothing of this Titanic Tues. yall speak of but if we can draw them kind of crowds like an hour before the FSO flight during the week why did they quit the Titanic Tuesday?
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FSO is slowing dying but my recent data suggested it may be taper off to what the population will remain at.
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Its summer.. the game population seems to die off a bit always this time of year.
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I blame it on Scabs!
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FSO is not slowly dying off.....
Last night's FSO was better than the 2 frames before it.
As Lazer pointed out that the attendance in the game and in special events, has always dropped off a little during Summer months due to the schools out for Summer, family vacations, Summer time outdoors activities, etc....
What affects FSO the most is squads that have signed up for FSO and have made commitment to have a set amount of squaddies show up each FSO frame, but don't follow through and keep their word when they are assigned a bomber or poor performance fighter.... They only show up to participate when they are assigned a 1/2 decent fighter or better..... this is my own personal view of my observation of FSO over the last decade
TC
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A lot of the FSO guys dont like the MA due to the type of play that we have in the MA. They come in before FSO and "warm up" but move on to FSO.
Titanic Tuesday was something all to gether different. At the time we have 2 MAs, both able to sustain 300+ numbers during US prime time. HTC made the 2 arenas to keep the numbers in a more socially friendly setup believing that new players would feel lost and excluded in a single higher population arena. They did relent one night a week, Tuesdays, where they would close down one arena and only have the single MA and so we had "Titanic Tuesdays". 600 players in a single arena.
Many FSO players don't like the game play in the MA arena because it no longer supports the team/historic/battle type play it use to. IF FSO/scenario game play shut down HTC would lose more than half of their subscription base. This game has shifted away from that type of game play, for better or worst over the years. We use to have missions planned and post every 20-30 minutes and players joined them. Instead of players yelling out on the radio after a base capture "which one next?" like we do now we would get the same question but the answer usually was "hold on I'll load up a mission!"
The way to bring FSO players back in on a more regular basis would be to have that type of game play again. I doubt with todays "need it NOW!", or want action yesterday! type players we will see that any time soon, but there you have it. Numbers will help. If we get 300 players a night in the arena again think half of them might like that type of play could help bring it back while the other half continues with what we have these days.
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Yep. Everyone's on vacation at work too.
Its summer.. the game population seems to die off a bit always this time of year.
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Fugi nailed it for me, I've been here a long time and FSO and Scenario game play is the only type of game play I like.
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FSO is where the Pigs are serious the Melee is where we relax and party. :aok
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Its summer.. the game population seems to die off a bit always this time of year.
This. :aok
My own schedule is dominated by an abundance of overtime, and during the first half of September I will be on vacation on the other side of the planet.
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Work and life get in the way during the week.
If I'm in town, I make time for FSO. :salute
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FSO really is such a great wonder of AH. I Try to make it when I can. I think a lot of people like it more than the MA because squads are more intact, there is a real mission, and planes are similar year models. The MA is much less balanced. Most people are in the top performing planes. Ganging is rampant. If you cannot coordinate your squad, you are lone wolf or battling a hoard with people who you don't know. Constant running and picking from 190Ds. The MA is just a much more brutal place. Top that with having to fly so far in order to get ganged. People just don't want to spend the time for that kind of unbalanced gameplay. It's unfortunate, because if those players could play in the MA more often, it would bring back bigger fights instead of bigger gangs.
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Everyone remain calm...
I heard everyone seemingly missing will return in 2 weeks.
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People, please read the OP again. He is NOT asking why the numbers are down in FSO. He IS asking why those guys dont play in the melee arena more as he had a blast with the spike in numbers in the melee arena BEFORE FSO started.
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where are all these pilots at the rest of the week? last night it was amazing and over whelming at many times with the amount of pilots in the MA. I know nothing of this Titanic Tues. yall speak of but if we can draw them kind of crowds like an hour before the FSO flight during the week why did they quit the Titanic Tuesday?
Back when we had two Late War arenas, Titanic Tuesday was implemented. The two late war arenas were combined to make one arena with one big map. You have to keep in mind that the population was large, so large that two late war arenas were necessary. So we essentially have what Titanic Tuesday was, one main arena. Many people only fly FSO and I cannot blame them, it is the best part of this game. For about 8 months, I only logged in on Friday nights.
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It's mid-summer. Families are on vacation. The weather is nice. It stays light until damn near 9PM. The numbers will be back in the fall.
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"It's summer" has nothing to do with it. FSO has been declining in numbers since 2008.
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"It's summer" has nothing to do with it. FSO has been declining in numbers since 2008.
Along with the rest of the game. I bet the proportion of active players that fly FSO now is higher that it was then.
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Example: FSO frame 2017-06-23
179 pilots total.
Of those, only 16 (9%) didn't play in the Melee arena in that month.
The remaining 163 FSO pilots averagely played 27.9 hours in the melee arena arena in June, that's about 2 hours more than the average Melee Arena pilot did.
At various times in the past I came to the same findings: Most FSO (and scenario) pilots also fly actively in the MA, and most of them very much so.
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At various times in the past I came to the same findings: Most FSO (and scenario) pilots also fly actively in the MA, and most of them very much so.
So the trick is just getting them to come together at the same time. (Shut your disgusting mouth!)
I guess that the Titanic Tuesday was a means to do that. Wonder if there is some other way to ring the dinner bell?
- oldman
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I enjoy the FSO's because the focus is air combat with defined mission strategies taking place. (no GV's...no base capturing etc)..... Its also one of the only times where your entire squad might show up to fly together....
The melee arena doesn't really have a focus. I think there is just too much going on, GV's....ships....base taking... air combat. Its fun once in a while, but now,for me, its not focused enough to make me want to spend a lot of gaming time in there.
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Most tend to the sheep during the off times
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There has also been many battles of possibly starting FSO an Hr earlier instead of 11pm est time to 10pm Est but that also plays into other time Zone's but I bet if we bumped an hr early for the east coast number's may climb a little or maybe even change the night to Saturday who know's I love the game but the numbers have been dying with my slowly dying heart since I came back in 2009 after my first heart attack.
just my 2 cents
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Molsman
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There has also been many battles of possibly starting FSO an Hr earlier instead of 11pm est time to 10pm Est but that also plays into other time Zone's but I bet if we bumped an hr early for the east coast number's may climb a little or maybe even change the night to Saturday who know's I love the game but the numbers have been dying with my slowly dying heart since I came back in 2009 after my first heart attack.
just my 2 cents
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Molsman
I thought CMs tried the hr early time awhile back.
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I thought CMs tried the hr early time awhile back.
NOPE was always brushed under the carpet even when the Polls won for the hour earlier start
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NOPE was always brushed under the carpet even when the Polls won for the hour earlier start
Fake news... :devil
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I think we need the man that made FSO fun daddog!daddog!daddog! I know it won't happen, just had to say it. :pray
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Summer usually means a dip in our over all #s.
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My summer work hours change. Earlier get ups compress my evenings. I look up and it's almost time for bed. It is what it is. I always make it a point to make FSO frames unless my women have other plans. That is what that is too!
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My summer work hours change. Earlier get ups compress my evenings. I look up and it's almost time for bed. It is what it is. I always make it a point to make FSO frames unless my women have other plans. That is what that is too!
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WOMEN!!!!!!!! you the man, I wouldn't have time for a cartoon game either :x
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WOMEN!!!!!!!! you the man, I wouldn't have time for a cartoon game either :x
Wife and daughters. No end to them!
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Still going through the numbers, but for now it seems FSO player count is actually significantly higher than years ago... relative to the total AH population, that is. :old:
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11.00 est start is not conducive to my game play.
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WOMEN!!!!!!!! you the man, I wouldn't have time for a cartoon game either :x
Ummmm....I bet it's not what you're thinking. :)
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I can't speak for everyone, I have trouble with just myself at times, but this cartoon pilot has missed the last 3 FSO's because of "summer stuff"... Every weekend during this time of year is about competition, just not in the cartoon skies. :devil
I love FSO, even when it sucks, it's good. Just can't always make it. :salute
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FSO pilot Checking in
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Its also one of the only times where your entire squad might show up to fly together....
The melee arena doesn't really have a focus.
Show up Monday nights and you will see the AK's reeking havoc in the melee arena. (Squad Night)
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Show up Monday nights and you will see the AK's reeking havoc in the melee arena. (Squad Night)
https://www.google.com/search?q=reeking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=reeking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
https://www.google.com/search?q=wreaking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=wreaking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
Not judging, but I'm not sure that's a typo :confused: :huh :O :rofl
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Still going through the numbers, but for now it seems FSO player count is actually significantly higher than years ago... relative to the total AH population, that is. :old:
Hold on! How far back are you going in FSO. Base on the Dara I gave FSO numbers are declining.
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Hold on! How far back are you going in FSO. .
5 Years
Base on the Dara I gave FSO numbers are declining.
relative to the total AH population, that is. :old:
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5 Years
Ok, what are you going at that shows the numbers are higher significantly higher then years ago?
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https://www.google.com/search?q=reeking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=reeking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
https://www.google.com/search?q=wreaking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=wreaking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
Not judging, but I'm not sure that's a typo :confused: :huh :O :rofl
Lol. Nice guy. I shall defile your sheep for making fun of me.
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Ok, what are you going at that shows the numbers are higher significantly higher then years ago?
You missed the second statement? "I didn't say the numbers are higher", I said that they are higher relative to the AH population.
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Example: FSO frame 2017-06-23
179 pilots total.
Of those, only 16 (9%) didn't play in the Melee arena in that month.
The remaining 163 FSO pilots averagely played 27.9 hours in the melee arena arena in June, that's about 2 hours more than the average Melee Arena pilot did.
At various times in the past I came to the same findings: Most FSO (and scenario) pilots also fly actively in the MA, and most of them very much so.
That and all folks go through times when they just do not play much for one reason or another. Ebb and flow.
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Our Squad has never been involved because of the starting time.
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Then it is your squad that is missing out. I think they have chosen a time that will accommodate the most people. I understand that most people does not mean all people. i work early the following mornings so I lose a bit of sleep that one night a week and it is well worth it. Since you guys don't fly in it then I guess you've never been tempted to inconvenience yourselves to participate. Go for it. You can sleep when your dead.
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You missed the second statement? "I didn't say the numbers are higher", I said that they are higher relative to the AH population.
Ah yes. You are correct.
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You do not have to fly with your squad. You can fill in any squad. It is separate from melee.
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You missed the second statement? "I didn't say the numbers are higher", I said that they are higher relative to the AH population.
Are you the accountant? watched that last night on the hbo
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Are you the accountant? watched that last night on the hbo
Well he could be! :uhoh Kicked my donkey, EVERY time I even thought about shooting at him :eek: Pretty much like guy in the movie kicked donkey :devil That was a good Flick wasnt it!? "Thats what, about a mile? Some one has seen WAY too many Westerns,I think. Not on my BEST DA....HOLY >>>>" :x
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it was a lot better than I would have imagined. great ending, except he should have hooked up with the check at the end.
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Must not have watched "Mr. Right" yet :O That chick is weird :uhoh lol
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Go for it. You can sleep when your dead.
That is what we are trying to avoid. Our squad is mostly :old: