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Help and Support Forums => Aces High Bug Reports => Topic started by: molybdenum on July 31, 2018, 04:07:46 PM
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The map that's currently on (don't know its name, 2PM PST) was fine 8 hours ago, but now every player--friend or foe, bomber, fighter, or GV--is visible to all. Is this a bug? Or some horribly misguided idea to help people "find a fight"? I thought GV dar was bad, but this...!
Reeeeely hoping it's a bug.
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Are you talking "icons" or on the map?
If icons you may have cycled through to the "no icons" setting. "ALT I" are the keys to cycle through. As for the map, is dar dead? check the HQ and city
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I think he said visible to all not invisible to all. :headscratch:
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I set full radar on in the arena. It's not a bug.
There is now a MOTD posted.
HiTech
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I set full radar on in the arena. It's not a bug.
There is now a MOTD posted.
HiTech
Nice. :)
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Nice. :)
Nice for fighter pilots. Not nice for anyone else.
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I like it for my country, but not for other countries to see my country. :uhoh
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Nice for people who like to fight. Not nice for anyone else.
FIFY.
I'm sure Hitech will tweak it, but he's on the right track.
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FIFY.
I'm sure Hitech will tweak it, but he's on the right track.
LOOOOOVE how you edited my post vraciu.
I said "Nice for fighter pilots. Not nice for anyone else."
You pretended to say I said "nice for people who like to fight. Not nice for anyone else."
If you have to LIE to further an agenda, what does that say about the validity of your agenda?
Lowlife.
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If HT goes with the all radar all the time, there will be no need for radar circles or dar bars. The only advantage is, with so few players, you can see where to go to the fighters and bombers, instead of searching for them. I do not like it.
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I hope it is just an experiment, don't care for it at all. It kills the game for my style of play. :headscratch:
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I hope it is just an experiment, don't care for it at all. It kills the game for my style of play. :headscratch:
Most action I've seen in weeks!!!
With a few tweaks I think it's a winner. More importantly, new players will actually see action instead of dar bars.
May want to hide GVs and have either terrain masking or a radar floor, but otherwise I love it. Gives a sold sense of action. +10000 :cheers:
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LOOOOOVE how you edited my post vraciu.
That's what FIFY means.
FIXED
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FOR
YOU
I said "Nice for fighter pilots. Not nice for anyone else."
You pretended to say I said "nice for people who like to fight. Not nice for anyone else."
If you have to LIE to further an agenda, what does that say about the validity of your agenda?
See above.
Lowlife.
:ahand
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Full radar is often used for tank night in the AvA. It makes flanking a target essentially impossible. The enemy tank knows where the attacking tank is at all times and can just position his frontal armor against it. Up a Tiger II, the frontal armor of which is nearly impervious to any other tank, and win every battle. The AvA usually counters this somewhat by adding a delay time to the GV radar update (and by almost never enabling the Tiger II).
Personally, I suspect I will not like this change at all: it devolves tank battles to simple brute force frontal jousting. No setting up ambushes at choke points, no hiding hull down, no shoot and scoot, just point at each other and bang bang.
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Full radar is often used for tank night in the AvA. It makes flanking a target essentially impossible. The enemy tank knows where the attacking tank is at all times and can just position his frontal armor against it. Up a Tiger II, the frontal armor of which is nearly impervious to any other tank, and win every battle. The AvA usually counters this somewhat by adding a delay time to the GV radar update (and by almost never enabling the Tiger II).
Personally, I suspect I will not like this change at all: it devolves tank battles to simple brute force frontal jousting. No setting up ambushes at choke points, no hiding hull down, no shoot and scoot, just point at each other and bang bang.
Dead on 715.
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More fights than I have seen in a long time. :aok
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More fights than I have seen in a long time. :aok
....but were they fights, or just people running into each other?
Im all for finding/running into other players, but not if it leads to chasing more players to ack and such.
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Full radar is often used for tank night in the AvA. It makes flanking a target essentially impossible. The enemy tank knows where the attacking tank is at all times and can just position his frontal armor against it. Up a Tiger II, the frontal armor of which is nearly impervious to any other tank, and win every battle. The AvA usually counters this somewhat by adding a delay time to the GV radar update (and by almost never enabling the Tiger II).
Personally, I suspect I will not like this change at all: it devolves tank battles to simple brute force frontal jousting. No setting up ambushes at choke points, no hiding hull down, no shoot and scoot, just point at each other and bang bang.
I have zero interest in GVs so those tweaks I will leave up to you guys who care about that stuff.
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I like it for fighters. I think the tanks and buffs need to be excluded if possible.
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....but were they fights, or just people running into each other?
Im all for finding/running into other players, but not if it leads to chasing more players to ack and such.
Well...you know where EVERYONE is ALL the time,so... :uhoh Will they fight YOUR fight,remains to be seen I guess. Sure, they still act as they always have... nothing will ever change that. No need to wonder AT ALL as to what you are flying into. Made a difference in that aspect at least. Pretty sure this will lead to HIGH ALT furballs...Only way to get advantage since you know where they are....IMO Only an idiot would fly alone,low into a place with 10 red guys..not much of a difference really. Just that the Moans and Lamentations will evolve. I didnt drop a single bomb tonight...Felt dirty just to think about it. I am sure that it might grow on me though :devil
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Well...you know where EVERYONE is ALL the time,so... :uhoh Will they fight YOUR fight,remains to be seen I guess. Sure, they still act as they always have... nothing will ever change that. No need to wonder AT ALL as to what you are flying into. Made a difference in that aspect at least. Pretty sure this will lead to HIGH ALT furballs...Only way to get advantage since you know where they are....IMO Only an idiot would fly alone,low into a place with 10 red guys..not much of a difference really. Just that the Moans and Lamentations will evolve. I didnt drop a single bomb tonight...Felt dirty just to think about it. I am sure that it might grow on me though :devil
Guess im an idiot that enjoys fighting rather than climbing... there used to be a lot more around.
Going to check this out after the brewers close out the dodgers.
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Guess im an idiot that enjoys fighting rather than climbing... there used to be a lot more around.
Going to check this out after the brewers close out the dodgers.
Didn't you get the memo? This isn't a combat game. It's a hider game for people to sneak and roll undefended bases for ego purposes. :D :rofl
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Guess im an idiot that enjoys fighting rather than climbing... there used to be a lot more around.
Going to check this out after the brewers close out the dodgers.
Yes you are...but wasnt talking about THAT TYPE of idiot! I am one of THOSE....we know what we like and do it for the thrill...THE IDIOT i was referring to..was the one that will WHINE and CRY about getting picked or ganged WHILE SEEING where ABSOLUTELY EVERY PLANE IS! :rofl
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I like it for fighters. I think the tanks and buffs need to be excluded if possible.
I agree shamus. And maybe even keep the below dar and icon alts of 250 and 65.
One-eye
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I agree shamus. And maybe even keep the below dar and icon alts of 250 and 65.
One-eye
Absolutely! I dont have a dog in this fight, per say. Every thing is still some GREAT FUN! The radar thing would be something I think I could get on board with. I like this ALL DAR...but not quite enough if it hurts others. Gvs are going to get the full brunt of this change. Bomber/strat raids are in a dead heat with the Gvs. Would be so much harder to plan around these issues, while being able to see where bombers are lifting from? It sure did make it easy to find the "RED" guys though! It offered just about EVERY aspect of game play..IMO. Love hitting Bombers,bomb****ing gvs, and simple combat control? I think this sort of setting could really boost game play? Would absolutely invite more TEAM WORK,IMO AND NO....I didnt bomb**** ONCE...I felt dirty just thinking about it.
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I like it for fighters. I think the tanks and buffs need to be excluded if possible.
Also exclude fighters carrying bombs (some planes score as bomber/attack so there is no simple line to cut off the display).
Or just connect it to the score-as stting. Everyone scoring as fighter sees everyone scoring as fighter. That helps people finding something that intends to fight back. But to protect their homeland they will still have to work a bit harder.
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You need to get rid of the dar bars, they just clutter up things. Don't need them anyway. Get rid of the clouds, since you know where the planes are anyway. Might as well make it easy as possible.
You can use logic to justify almost anything. That's it's power and it's fault.
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Now we can get rid of the radar towers, radar strat, radar rings, vehicle dar, and bar dar.
Add lead computing gunsight and f3 view...
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The ingratitude and cynicism displayed by so many is utterly appalling. Give the man a chance. SMH.
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Give the man a chance for what ? Really. How much more will HT take away in the future? I still do not understand why they are doing this in the first places.
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Give the man a chance for what ? Really. How much more will HT take away in the future? I still do not understand why they are doing this in the first places.
Should've been a test arena for this crap..
Coogan
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Should've been a test arena for this crap..
Coogan
With two people on...
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You need to get rid of the dar bars, they just clutter up things. Don't need them anyway. Get rid of the clouds, since you know where the planes are anyway. Might as well make it easy as possible.
+1
Seems arcadish to me.. Might as well do away with base taking and just let everyone air start
:salute
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Ramesis, I agree.
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GUYS.....ITS TEMPORARY While I have absolutely NO IDEA what data he would be looking at with this test, and yes its different......its a TEMPORARY thing. Doesnt mean A THING, and any extrapolations of conspiracy theories or what ifs is a MUTE POINT. Give it a chance. Its just like with AH3..it was in OPEN ALPHA for a good 9 MONTHS, with very limited numbers of players testing it out. WHAT HAPPENED? Everyone ignored the fact that change was coming and waited till AH2 was closed to come and check it out.. SAME RESULT HT fix your broke game...this sucks...Im quitting...why not change it back to AH2......So he is testing in the MA...BIG DEAL. Just something different to GRIPE ABOUT. All he has heard for over a year is complaining...NOW WHEN HE DOES TRY TO FIX SOMETHING....all you guys can do is scream and throw tantrums. WE are GROWN bellybutton MEN...we are better than this :bhead
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When we went to AH III, I spent over 500 dollars for upgrades just to keep playing and still my frame rate for GV's is 15-25. AH III, we got pretty scenery, but lost our custom sounds.I still would like to know what their end game is, that's all. The more they update, the more we loose.
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Give the man a chance for what ? Really. How much more will HT take away in the future? I still do not understand why they are doing this in the first places.
If you were a new player, first time in to the arena, and like most new players didnt both to read ANY help pages :rolleyes: and you logged in to see 100 plane and vehicles represented on the map, OR a few planes here and there with a few dar bars in sectors were the radar has been knocked out. Which view would you think had more action? Which view would look more like theres a party going on? Honestly, full on Dar makes the game look like a LOT more is going on.
Should've been a test arena for this crap..
Coogan
In a test arena, or even the combat arena all there is is a couple players in there. How is that going to show what it would look like with the whole map lite up with action? The point is to make it look like there are people PLAYING the game.
With that being said this isnt a finished product. To be honest I dont think this game will EVER be "finished" As long as people will play it, Hitech will add to it. This radar test "looks" great, but it hurts game play for many. Im sure Hitech will tweak it. He has already posted that he has added some lines of code so that he can easily adjust things with the radar instead of just the all ON, all OFF he has now.
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Give the man a chance for what ? Really. How much more will HT take away in the future? I still do not understand why they are doing this in the first places.
Have some faith and the answer will be revealed. All this splodey-heading is doing nobody any good.
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Have some faith and the answer will be revealed. All this splodey-heading is doing nobody any good.
He’d probably help himself some good if he wasn’t so bloody cryptic. A little more flipping clarity would go a long damn way.
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He’d probably help himself some good if he wasn’t so bloody cryptic. A little more flipping clarity would go a long damn way.
“Keep your Marines informed.”
Good advice.
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Possibly the current "all on" radar is a tolerance test to gauge where to begin his next test of these settings combined with the existing settings.
Right now enemy vehicles off and show bombers as fighters would have alleviated some amount of doom and gloom predictions. Setting fighters to be seen no matter what at all times, you wouldn't have to look that hard for someone to shoot at. It might give away NOE missions...In AH1\2 we did fine not knowing if a dar dot was a fighter or a bomber. But it was usually a good guess a red dot in your back field was a bomber heading for a strat. I'm in the camp showing enemy tank and bomber locations will not be good for the game in the long run. Even going back to dots only for all planes visible all the time would not hurt things. At which point going back to 250ft for your dot showing would be fair to the sneaking bent.
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For the next patch I am writing some new radar option flags so configurations can change and I can test some different combinations.
Enemy Vehicles On Radar
Friendly Vehicles On Radar
Show Bombers as Fighters
Also the BelowRadarAlt will remain active even if full radar is enabled.
It can be set to 0 to disable it.
HiTech
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You are correct, keep us U.S. Marines ('67-'71) informed.
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When we went to AH III, I spent over 500 dollars for upgrades just to keep playing and still my frame rate for GV's is 15-25.
When we went to AH III I still could play with my Radeon HD 6970 pretty well on my now ten years old system and a 2560x1600 monitor. Spending 150 for a used GTX970 raised my frames to a solid 59-60. Either your investment wasn't too successful or there's something going on in the background eating your processing power.
However, to do you justice I just run a quick test and to my surprise the GV frame rates dropped down to 30-45 but only in the Turret. I'll write a separate bug report about that. :salute
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:aok
If you were a new player, first time in to the arena, and like most new players didnt both to read ANY help pages :rolleyes: and you logged in to see 100 plane and vehicles represented on the map, OR a few planes here and there with a few dar bars in sectors were the radar has been knocked out. Which view would you think had more action? Which view would look more like theres a party going on? Honestly, full on Dar makes the game look like a LOT more is going on.
In a test arena, or even the combat arena all there is is a couple players in there. How is that going to show what it would look like with the whole map lite up with action? The point is to make it look like there are people PLAYING the game.
With that being said this isnt a finished product. To be honest I dont think this game will EVER be "finished" As long as people will play it, Hitech will add to it. This radar test "looks" great, but it hurts game play for many. Im sure Hitech will tweak it. He has already posted that he has added some lines of code so that he can easily adjust things with the radar instead of just the all ON, all OFF he has now.
FINALLY! We are on the same page,Sir! If it helps game play..I am MORE than wiling to be a test subject! I mean...What is so wrong about testing settings and their influence on game play? All those that constantly rail against HighTech....Fix your broke A game...Graphics are 3rd world... ect..should be rejoicing his testing of new settings,IMO Sure with Dar like it is,FULL( sucks for some) is awkward... I still did EVERYTHING i USUALLY did :D Gv icons..so what? You still have to see them to kill them...all Dar for planes...anyone with a modicum of reading the map would pick you out anyway. I sure does concentrate those who love a good furball. Personally THAT suits me JUST FINE.