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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: TheRobbler on January 13, 2021, 07:10:37 PM
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i am scared aka friend aka that liberal sweetheartbag.
last night my future son in law died. overdosed on heroin.
he was my buddy.
my daughter is losing her mind.
i keep running toejam over and over in my head.
my poor grand babies
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Sorry for your loss.
My best friend from high school OD'd on that crap back in 2014. Still hurts.
He was a Marine veteran who served in Iraq and got hooked on pain meds after he was discharged. And we know where that leads. Too many good people are lost to heroin. They're not all junkies.
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i keep running toejam over and over in my head.
You have friends here. Odd as it might seem, it helps to be able to talk about these things to people who are your friends, even though you haven't met us in person.
Use us.
- oldman
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Thinking of you buddy. Such a shame. GIVE YOUR DAUGHER LOTS OF LOVE :salute
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"i keep running toejam over and over in my head."
This absolutely SUCKS! I feel ya! Sure, go over and over in your head...as long as you dont start thinking you could have changed things! Trust me, I know. Seems that Heroin is the force "Stronger than blood"! My Daughter got wrapped up in this BS! Its been a hard time, but I eventually saw it for what it was. I didnt mess up THAT BAD and once this stuff gets into your life...its all you care about. I beat myself over the head, the last 3 years. what did I miss/NOT DO, why didnt I see warning signs/or act on the ones I found... ect.! ITS NOT YOUR'S OR ANYONE ELSES FAULT(pill mill Dr.s, big Pharma pushing sales ect..they could be somewhat blamed)! If you only knew, how I want to declare war on her dealers! She had 2 kids, so they are my focus....FOR NOW!
"Vengeance is mine!" sayeth the Lord??????????yayaya He is on the clock! Hopefully "This Cup" will pass from me. If not...With out REMORSE I will have my say!
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Sad news such a terrible epidemic. I have a close friend that nearly lost everything to that stuff, we staged an intervention with our circle of friends and his family. Thankfully he turned things around but I can still see that he struggles from time to time. Very sorry for your loss, nobody should have to go through that. :salute
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Sorry to hear of your loss. I understand you feel bad about it but there is another person to consider. Did he get your Daughter hooked? She is going to need a TON of support from you especially if he spread his habit to her.
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she just got out of detox. they danced with that devil for 5 years. now his kids are fatherless and I will never hear him say, Rob, I love you buddy." again. breaks my heart man. 28 years old. I figure it could go one of two ways with my daughter...either she will use the loss as a reason to stay sober or she will use it as a reason to go off the rails. I tell you this, there is no way I could survive losing her like this. I am just glad that his family has faith, that will help. I don't and right now I am very envious of people that do. thanks guys. I should not have posted this on here, but I was in the middle of losing my mind. my grandbabies...my poor grandbabies :(
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Sorry for your loss
Prayers to you, your daughter and her children
Eagler
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Sincerest condolences.
Prayers to you, your family and his.
Two guys on meth murdered my brother in 1997 - he was 28 also. Still miss his everyday.
Please look into grief counseling - it really helps, won’t fix it, but it will help you - I promise that.
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she just got out of detox. they danced with that devil for 5 years. now his kids are fatherless and I will never hear him say, Rob, I love you buddy." again. breaks my heart man. 28 years old. I figure it could go one of two ways with my daughter...either she will use the loss as a reason to stay sober or she will use it as a reason to go off the rails. I tell you this, there is no way I could survive losing her like this. I am just glad that his family has faith, that will help. I don't and right now I am very envious of people that do. thanks guys. I should not have posted this on here, but I was in the middle of losing my mind. my grandbabies...my poor grandbabies :(
I am very sorry to hear about your family. I send my warmest condolences.
These types of drugs are why I say what I say and have posted what I have. I have lost 4 people I knew and watched a neighborhood buddy get his house raided and sent to prison where he became gang affiliated and got caught 5 years later with pounds of meth and heroin in his car. Hes now serving 10 years. One God dang hit of this crap and it destroys a person. It steals their pursuit and fight for life. I had a friend spend $800 every two weeks on this stuff. Couldn't believe it when I found out. It hit the suburbs of wealthy areas in GA hard. These drugs are being used to steal our friends and family when they cave to the peer pressure and constant psychological stress and simply take one hit thinking one won't hurt. It is not Weed. These are extremely dangerous drugs being weaponized on Americans. Stats on overdoses a month are staggering. I see first hand whats its doing in Portland. We must stop the supply to our neighborhoods. Stopping the supply is the only way. These drugs are too damn powerful and they are ruining peoples lives.
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Sorry for your loss
Until they start executing drug dealers immediately after the guilty verdict this will continue.
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Sorry for your loss sir. Give your daughter lots of love and support to help pull her through.
I'm lucky I survived a lot of bad choices when I was young; some of my friends of that time ended up in prison or the morgue. I was lucky, I turned my life around in a big way through the support of good friends, perhaps my deep seated love of the outdoors, and a very kind admissions counselor who gave me a second chance at a fine education. I'm wishing for similar good fortune for your daughter. :salute
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Sorry for your loss
Until they start executing drug dealers immediately after the guilty verdict this will continue.
Drug dealers sell to those wanting to buy.
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Drug dealers sell to those wanting to buy.
True but if we hang all the dealers then those people who "want to buy" wont be able to. :devil Win win, get rid of the scum that make money off people with problems and take a major step to help people with problems by taking the drugs away.
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Sorry for your loss sir. Give your daughter lots of love and support to help pull her through.
I will. They just published his obit today and I think even though I knew it had happened, that drove the reality of it home for me. My daughter is still sober but she is isolating and that worries me. I don't know what to say to his family, we all loved him. He was not perfect but he was my buddy and I loved him. Thank you all for the kind words.
My daughter told the police where she suspected the stuff came from and they wanted her to wear a wire but she was afraid. I don't blame her. In this town, the bad guys are coming in from Chicago, Cleveland and Pittsburgh and they are VERY bad guys.
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Get some expert advice. Talk to people where your daughter detoxed about how to best help her. She needs help to stay sober while raising the kids alone.
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Drug dealers sell to those wanting to buy.
Comments like that will bite you hard someday.
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True but if we hang all the dealers then those people who "want to buy" wont be able to. :devil Win win, get rid of the scum that make money off people with problems and take a major step to help people with problems by taking the drugs away.
I have no issues with hanging drug dealers/criminals at all.
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Comments like that will bite you hard someday.
Have you heard different?
I'll be 62 next month. The only way it may have affected my family so far is a vehicle stolen with a pistol inside, some tools stolen from my truck. No idea if the criminals were on drugs and feeding their habbit or not.
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Shooting them straight away is better.
If you break into someone’s house more than 3 times again away with them.
And if you have a liberal ideology its society fault go live in Sweden
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Scared / Robbler
I'm sorry to hear about your tragedy, my condolences.
As for drugs/drug dealer discussion.
Take a look at attached graphs:
Deaths in USA from alcohol / drugs
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/mortality-from-alcohol-and-drug-use-disorders?country=~USA
For reference couple developed nations in same timeframe:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/mortality-from-alcohol-and-drug-use-disorders?country=~FRA
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/mortality-from-alcohol-and-drug-use-disorders?country=~GBR
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/mortality-from-alcohol-and-drug-use-disorders?country=~DEU
In most deaths from drug overdoses rose a little to 2x over last 20 years.
In USA 8 fold since 1995.
Why ?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622774/
It's a case study how unregulated free market can turn great profit while killing its customers. And nobody bats an eye. Heck, even more potent pain killers are advertised and introduced as we speak.
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she just got out of detox. they danced with that devil for 5 years. now his kids are fatherless and I will never hear him say, Rob, I love you buddy." again. breaks my heart man. 28 years old. I figure it could go one of two ways with my daughter...either she will use the loss as a reason to stay sober or she will use it as a reason to go off the rails. I tell you this, there is no way I could survive losing her like this. I am just glad that his family has faith, that will help. I don't and right now I am very envious of people that do. thanks guys. I should not have posted this on here, but I was in the middle of losing my mind. my grandbabies...my poor grandbabies :(
Sir, you are FAMILY!!! You need something just holler! If you have at least 100yrds Line of sight between me and the dealers...Have gun,will travel! Well, in 3 years or so..my Grandbabies are priority as of now!
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Scared / Robbler
I'm sorry to hear about your tragedy, my condolences.
As for drugs/drug dealer discussion.
Take a look at attached graphs:
Deaths in USA from alcohol / drugs
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/mortality-from-alcohol-and-drug-use-disorders?country=~USA
For reference couple developed nations in same timeframe:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/mortality-from-alcohol-and-drug-use-disorders?country=~FRA
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/mortality-from-alcohol-and-drug-use-disorders?country=~GBR
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/mortality-from-alcohol-and-drug-use-disorders?country=~DEU
In most deaths from drug overdoses rose a little to 2x over last 20 years.
In USA 8 fold since 1995.
Why ?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622774/
It's a case study how unregulated free market can turn great profit while killing its customers. And nobody bats an eye. Heck, even more potent pain killers are advertised and introduced as we speak.
Do those other countries have the illegals invading like we do? That adds greatly to the issue too.
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Nothing to do with illegals
This sort of money is in a shoe box under bed.
The Swiss and their nonsense need a good kicking
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Drug dealers sell to those wanting to buy.
so what exactly are you trying to say pal? i have seen your ignorant and insensitive comments all over this bulletin board and the only thing I can think is that you are one of Hitechs buddies and you can get away with this crap. You are a total goof for saying that. wtf? How many pain pills you gonna down tonight old man? :mad:
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Ignorant? If you buy drugs, you are ignorant. You care for no one. Simple as that.
I pitty folks like you but I do not dispare over your self induced challenges.
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Sorry for your loss, Booger/Scared.... I've myself lost too many friends and 1 relative to the same...so understand what you are going through...
Shuffler, it is not that simple (black and white)....
Both of you should settle down...please
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No matter to the hate, politics, greed, or fault. The important thing is going forward. A terrible situation that will not go away. Love and support is a must. She also needs to stay away from the dope. Not sure how she could do that and raise a kid, that would take a queens effort. I would suggest having her live with you , a treatment center or Both. So sorry for your loss and pain.
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And dont get mad if she relapses. If you get her, you got her and that is now day 1. And day 1 is always a good thing!
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True but if we hang all the dealers then those people who "want to buy" wont be able to. :devil Win win, get rid of the scum that make money off people with problems and take a major step to help people with problems by taking the drugs away.
So hang Big Pharm? The docotrs who pushed the opiods on people for profits from Big pharm??
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So hang Big Pharm? The docotrs who pushed the opiods on people for profits from Big pharm??
Sure, a drug pusher is a drug pusher. I have had injuries and been prescribed pain killers with the admonition "take as necessary". With in a few weeks the pain is tolerable as I heal and the pills that are left, go down the drain. I dont use them all and run back to the doctor asking for more which the doctor "happily" supplies for big pharma.
Its called maning up and moving on. I dont give them the opportunity to feed off me and so it isnt a problem. Far too many run back to the doctors only to turn around and sell the drugs instead of take them. Like the government "we the people..." need to put more restrictions on them. We have allowed them to do what ever they want for far too long and look at where it has gotten us. Big pharma is allowed to run wild because of all the money they throw around.
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Sure, a drug pusher is a drug pusher. I have had injuries and been prescribed pain killers with the admonition "take as necessary". With in a few weeks the pain is tolerable as I heal and the pills that are left, go down the drain. I dont use them all and run back to the doctor asking for more which the doctor "happily" supplies for big pharma.
Its called maning up and moving on. I dont give them the opportunity to feed off me and so it isnt a problem. Far too many run back to the doctors only to turn around and sell the drugs instead of take them. Like the government "we the people..." need to put more restrictions on them. We have allowed them to do what ever they want for far too long and look at where it has gotten us. Big pharma is allowed to run wild because of all the money they throw around.
I will say that the Sackler family and Perdue pharma have been sued into oblivioin rightly for these pain killer drugs, however, I believe some doctors should be sued aswell for not prescribing them correctly and putting peoples lives in danger.
Yall should go watch the movie "Trainspotting". I am afraid this is one of the best ways to get your kid off herroin or pain killers. Im sure many wouldn't recommend it because its "the hard way", however, it may be the only way to break them fully from the addiction.
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violator as good intention as you have, you do that to one of your relatives or a friend, it's called kidnapping. you will go to jail.
there's more to drugs than just quitting, it's the mental toll that makes it hard. it's your friends too, where you live, and most important family.
family sometimes is the worst enemy you can have when quitting drugs.
sometimes you have to walk away from everybody you know and that's the hardest part.
anyway, unless you have some personal experience, leave it to the professionals.
semp
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Sure, a drug pusher is a drug pusher. I have had injuries and been prescribed pain killers with the admonition "take as necessary". With in a few weeks the pain is tolerable as I heal and the pills that are left, go down the drain. I dont use them all and run back to the doctor asking for more which the doctor "happily" supplies for big pharma.
Its called maning up and moving on. I dont give them the opportunity to feed off me and so it isnt a problem. Far too many run back to the doctors only to turn around and sell the drugs instead of take them. Like the government "we the people..." need to put more restrictions on them. We have allowed them to do what ever they want for far too long and look at where it has gotten us. Big pharma is allowed to run wild because of all the money they throw around.
You make a good point. Well, a few of them.
I will add, it is the outlawing that allows criminal enterprise. Shifting profits to criminals in a now unregulated market, allowing for deadly additives including fentanyl.
This point is very important and the necessary social concept to fix the problem is foreign to many a modern society.
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To Shuffler and Fugitive,
i understand where you are coming from however it has not been proven that addition is correlated with lack of will power. Many studies show it is not. While it might be a factor, it certainly isn't the only ( or main ) one.
If you look closely you'll find people of extreme will power who still remain addicts. Often cause of their addition lies in other problems - often psychologic. Whether PTSD or depression due to various factors, chronic pain - advice of "get a grip and be tough" is at best misguided.
What should be recognized as criminal is making dangerous substances widely available. Pushing them. "Ask your doctor if ...... is right for you". Pushing doctors to prescribe hard core drugs for injuries where nowhere else in the world such substance would be prescribed. While you might be strong willed enough ( or think you are ), how can you guarantee that others who are handed opioids are the same ?
Do you suppose it would be prudent to prescribe opioids to self medicate for pain to patient who lost his entire family in accident they survived ? Will they be strong enough ?
Those are dangerous substances that can ruin a life in a blink of an eye. Smallest mistake, and you and your family are on a shortcut to hell. And why ? In name of what ? Quarterly profits ?
Why can't those substances be used ( and dispensed ) only in hospitals - like everywhere else in the world ? Does everything have to be mass produced and marketed ?
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To Shuffler and Fugitive,
i understand where you are coming from however it has not been proven that addition is correlated with lack of will power. Many studies show it is not. While it might be a factor, it certainly isn't the only ( or main ) one.
If you look closely you'll find people of extreme will power who still remain addicts. Often cause of their addition lies in other problems - often psychologic. Whether PTSD or depression due to various factors, chronic pain - advice of "get a grip and be tough" is at best misguided.
What should be recognized as criminal is making dangerous substances widely available. Pushing them. "Ask your doctor if ...... is right for you". Pushing doctors to prescribe hard core drugs for injuries where nowhere else in the world such substance would be prescribed. While you might be strong willed enough ( or think you are ), how can you guarantee that others who are handed opioids are the same ?
Do you suppose it would be prudent to prescribe opioids to self medicate for pain to patient who lost his entire family in accident they survived ? Will they be strong enough ?
Those are dangerous substances that can ruin a life in a blink of an eye. Smallest mistake, and you and your family are on a shortcut to hell. And why ? In name of what ? Quarterly profits ?
Why can't those substances be used ( and dispensed ) only in hospitals - like everywhere else in the world ? Does everything have to be mass produced and marketed ?
I agree...... will post more when I have time.
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Ignorant? If you buy drugs, you are ignorant. You care for no one. Simple as that.
I pitty folks like you but I do not dispare over your self induced challenges.
I pity a sour old man that would say something like that to someone who is grieving for someone they love. I don't know what is wrong with you bro. I don't. I am no fan of drug users either and I know the responsibility ultimately lies on them, but I was seriously losing my mind and overwhelmed with grief and you say that...dude. You need help. Seriously. My son in law was a good man with a disease and now he is gone and I will never see him again. you are a goof. I will never post on this bulletin board again. go to hell pal.
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I pity a sour old man that would say something like that to someone who is grieving for someone they love. I don't know what is wrong with you bro. I don't. I am no fan of drug users either and I know the responsibility ultimately lies on them, but I was seriously losing my mind and overwhelmed with grief and you say that...dude. You need help. Seriously. My son in law was a good man with a disease and now he is gone and I will never see him again. you are a goof. I will never post on this bulletin board again. go to hell pal.
No telling what the poor kids were put through. That is the tragedy. Where is the concern for the true victims.
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No telling what the poor kids were put through. That is the tragedy. Where is the concern for the true victims.
who are the true victims?
semp
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who are the true victims?
semp
Pretty sure he means, The Next Generation/The Kids! It is right there in his post,Brother! JEEZ, can we not put away petty differences of opinions from past interaction on this BBS? I know dealing with my Daughter's example, its the kids who take it worse! They just dont understand like we do! Drug use/Addiction is NOT A VICTIMLESS situation. Someone ALWAYS PAYS, and it is NEVER FAIR. I will have my hands full, for the next few years, trying to undo the destruction her decisions caused, even to me, let alone her kids! Like I said earlier God's Vengeance, is on the clock! Cause I am coming for them, in due time! Lord have mercy, because I WILL NOT
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that's why I mentioned earlier that family is the worst enemy of those who want to quit.
they never forget even after 30 years. seen it with my wife, seen it with friends.
semp
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who are the true victims?
semp
The kids who had no choice.
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The kids who had no choice.
kids never get a choice. but drugs are just 1 of thousands of reasons why.
if there ever was to be a test to become a parent, I doubt many would pass it.
semp
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kids never get a choice. but drugs are just 1 of thousands of reasons why.
if there ever was to be a test to become a parent, I doubt many would pass it.
semp
I would imagine your opinion on the matter would depend on your experiences. Some possibly as a child. That would be understandable.
There are a lot of good folks out there.... they are not in the news all the time.
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It is good we got to know each other a little better. Let us carry that respect further. How did John put it TC? Be who you are, do what you do. Not win or loose.
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yes sire
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