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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: Dantoo on January 06, 2022, 02:02:08 PM
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Not seen any for Allied yet? :joystick: :airplane:
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Nor any for the Axis.
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Nor any for the Axis.
I sent them last night at 10:27PM
Just resent to.you.
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Sorry guys something wonky I could not access Emails sent em to Sware to be forwarded to allied.
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I sent them last night at 10:27PM
Just resent to.you.
Got them. Thanks!
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VF-17 has received Allied orders.
:salute
Sik
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Didn't know The Bad Guys was being switched to Allied without my knowledge as I did not put in a request to be put on the Allies.
Would have been nice to get asked if that what I wanted.
Starting to see now why numbers are so low in this event. This and a few other things. It seems as though you all don't want new people in your beloved FSO if you keep doing sh*t like this. If you all (and i mean the CM's especially) wanted us to not be a part of this then you should have just said so instead of playing stupid games.
Surprised but not surprised
Thanks again
Darkwood
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Side preferences are exactly that, a preference. While Admin CMs try to fulfill everyone's preference month to month, sometimes it does not happen. When it does not, we always look at those squads (as we can track it) and try to make sure their preference is met in the following month(s).
Numbers in FSO have been falling congruently with all events and the MA slowly over a very long time. All CMs take these events seriously as we are putting hours of our personal time into them on a daily, weekly, monthly basis. I can assure you nobody is playing 'stupid games'.
:salute
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Side preferences are exactly that, a preference. While Admin CMs try to fulfill everyone's preference month to month, sometimes it does not happen. When it does not, we always look at those squads (as we can track it) and try to make sure their preference is met in the following month(s).
Numbers in FSO have been falling congruently with all events and the MA slowly over a very long time. All CMs take these events seriously as we are putting hours of our personal time into them on a daily, weekly, monthly basis. I can assure you nobody is playing 'stupid games'.
:salute
You Bumped your head, I used to love playing this game flew all the time and made every FSO I could but seriously Its one sided. The Bad Guys always got the worst planes and worst orders it showed consistently, but we never cared and just took it. Sometimes we got really sick of it and just said F it and did our own chit. You arm, chair generals are a bunch of Tool Bags, You CM's need Recycled or revamped either of the 2 would be PERFECT and things need to be equal to all squads that fly. As far as Hours into an event that's been played non stop for how many years Over and Over again...Yeah Ok sure whatever....play that fiddle all ya want. Some of us been here for YEARS too and we know better. This attitude it the reason I QUIT this game It never Changes same people doing the same chit, perhaps its time to change the guards cause these ones are stale and smell of chit. As for numbers in Game and FSO it's in a slow death spiral I'm just waiting for someone start playin taps.
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Gentlemen,
Good afternoon, I wanted to follow up on some items/issues that are being tossed about in this thread. I am going to focus on "Squad Preferences", as there may have been some misunderstanding surrounding this requirement.
For as far back as I can remember, each squad CO or Squad representative is responsible for setting their squad's "Side Preference" within the week between the event being posted and two days before the objectives are posted. In general that is about a weeks time. The objectives are sent to squad leaders on the Sunday before the first frame.
This is the same information that every participant will find in the FSO Guidance and Rules, posted here: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,386048.0.html (https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,386048.0.html)
But just for clarity sake, let's step through the "monthly" process of setting the "Squad Preferences".
Before we go much further, I want to define "preference" in terms of assigning squads to sides. In terms of setting a monthly "Squad Preference", the CM Admin reviews each squads preference as they are submitted within the appropriate time frame prior to objectives being released. The submitted preference keeps assumptions clear on what squads may want to do that month.
But... A "preference" is a liking, a choice, a favorite or a pick. The CM Staff would like to guarantee each squads side, but that is next to impossible based on the number of squads currently participating in FSO. Yes, there have been a few exceptions, but even those are very hard to maintain.
Granted that there are squads that have "No Preference" and there are squads that want to "Park" on one side. I am sure that the CM Team can do a little better with that, but it is not easy with our current number of participants within the event.
Balance is why CM Admins go through this exercise. We must balance the sides before the event starts. So we appreciate everyone's patience and flexibility when it comes to side preferences. The CM Team wants everyone to be happy with each event produced month to month, but the basis for the event by its design is balance.
Enough about that... Let's review the setting "Side Preferences" process.
To start, Squad COs or representative(s) are required to state their squad's side preference "Every" month. The absence of a change in squad preference from one month to the next, states that the squad has, "No Preference" for a side. If side preferences are never filled in, then the CM Admin will place the squad where it is needed to balance the sides.
We set the squad preference by going to the AHEvents.net website at: http://www.ahevents.net/ (http://www.ahevents.net/)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u366/Redtail7/AHEventsMenu.PNG)
The squad representative will need to "Login" >> (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u366/Redtail7/AHEventsML.PNG) to the site to expose the appropriate menus to make changes.
From the AH Events Home page find the menu bar and select "Events" >> (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u366/Redtail7/AHE-EventButton.PNG)
A pull down menu will appear where the "Friday Squad Ops" selection will be available, click there; (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u366/Redtail7/AHEvent-Friday_Squad_Ops.PNG)
Once the "Friday Squad Ops" page appears there will be a menu to the righthand side of the page, find and select "Update FSO Squad Info" >> (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u366/Redtail7/UpdateFSOSquadInfo.PNG)
There will be a page the shows your squad details based on your personal login credentials. You will need the password setup for your squad to make modifications to the page.
Once you have logged in you will find the following "Squad Information" >> (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u366/Redtail7/AHESquadInfo2b.PNG)
You will notice on the ninth line down the "side preference" option. This is where you will need to make changes to your squads preferences month to month for participation and planning in FSO. Please ensure that you save any changes before leaving the page.
Again, this system has been in place continuously for years and it has been an understood practice for that period. If there are any squad COs or representatives that need help in accessing this information, then a PM to Spikes, or Slipknt or any other AH CM can get you started on completing this request.
Cheers...
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You don't have to get the whiteboard and markers out Warhawk.
Just letting you know from a new guy's perspective what would push people away and is currently pushing people away. Little too tight with rules when there is barely anyone showing up anymore. Hopefully I am wrong, and it will turn around.
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This just Re-Affirms how far heads are up As*es in this game...air a grievance.... you get a lesson on compliance... like we're children...We all know how to read we been playing this cartoon plane game for a very long time. Face the facts most of you CMs SUCK and are really lazy at this! But yet you all cry about how difficult it is to be a CM but get to play for FREE and then complain on top of that on how hard it is to take time out of your day to make an event fun, maybe you need to start paying for the game again, so you are forced to really have to do something for those who DO have to pay! If you don't or can't pull the numbers you should be REMOVED, because you must be doing something Wrong! And Warhawk you just proved you are part of the problem set your crayon down and just walk away.
Another thing Refrain from sending me PM's I don't CARE what you have to say, never did, never will.
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Thats good. Because you REALLY dont want to hear what I have to say.
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This just Re-Affirms how far heads are up As*es in this game...air a grievance.... you get a lesson on compliance... like we're children...We all know how to read we been playing this cartoon plane game for a very long time. Face the facts most of you CMs SUCK and are really lazy at this! But yet you all cry about how difficult it is to be a CM but get to play for FREE and then complain on top of that on how hard it is to take time out of your day to make an event fun, maybe you need to start paying for the game again, so you are forced to really have to do something for those who DO have to pay! If you don't or can't pull the numbers you should be REMOVED, because you must be doing something Wrong! And Warhawk you just proved you are part of the problem set your crayon down and just walk away.
Another thing Refrain from sending me PM's I don't CARE what you have to say, never did, never will.
I don't think that "airing a grievance" constitutes personal attacks.
Nobody has said that it is difficult to be a CM, so do not put words in anyone's mouth. I simply pointed out that since we are investing our personal time into the game to produce a product for people to enjoy. I typically spend about 10-15 hours minimum per FSO design doing research, coming up with a planeset, objectives, etc. Not included in this is the side splits, sending out objectives, etc. which is not a terribly long amount of time. Where did I say how hard it was to take time out of my day? Or are you putting words into my mouth again?
I don't think we've denied a CM applicant in the last few years. We've graciously accepted anyone with a good mindset willing to help out and keep FSO and other events going. Your application must've got lost in the mail.
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Hopefully I am wrong, and it will turn around.
We all do and strive to make it fun for everyone involved. :salute
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It is a really simple concept.
If you are a CO, XO, or officer for the admin of your squad, you have an OBLIGATION to maintain your preferences and numbers.
If you think you can contribute to making the game fun, then volunteer to CM. Admin or setup.
Quite frankly I am tired of having to herd cats. If you log into FSO and participate, you are agreeing to fly by the FSO rules. I cannot and will not babysit any squad that doesn't update their information each and every month like the rest of us have for well over a decade.
Let it be known that if I catch someone going off and freelancing from the orders, I will ground you and then ensure you get banned from participation. We prefer to have more players play. But you need to understand that FSO isn't the MA. It also isn't one of the special events. FSO is its own animal. We receive objectives every week by Sunday. We expect the assigned CICs to produce orders by Wednesday evening. Sometimes that is not possible so just communicate that to the community that another squad steps up to get orders out.
For someone to come out in the forums and berate the CMs, you are way out of line. We pour HOURS into the events we create and host. Week in and week out. All we ask of you is update your preferences every month. It takes all but 3 minutes to do. And if you are CiC for a particular frame, plan and get the orders out. It takes maybe an hour minimum depending on how detailed you want to be.
I just poured over 4 hours into a plan I sent out. All it takes is one person or squadron to ruin said plan. If you have a hard time following orders of following the rules of the event, then perhaps this event is not for you.
We prefer that the squad in question continues to participate. We hope that you update your preferences when that window opens for the week or two before then next month. I know the CO has been an advocate for FSO since he came back and I will do everything I can to assist with that if it is something I can do.
On that note, to the ones that don't care, never have, and never will. It would appear that the FSO setup isn't something that would be a good fit for you. If what you said is truly the reason you quit the game, and you truly don't care, then why are you in this forum making statements about not caring? According to you, you quit and you don't care... :headscratch:
<<S>> to Darkwood and The Bad Guys - I hope y'all stay. Please reach out to me anytime via PM or email. I will always hear you out.
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You don't have to get the whiteboard and markers out Warhawk.
Just letting you know from a new guy's perspective what would push people away and is currently pushing people away. Little too tight with rules when there is barely anyone showing up anymore. Hopefully I am wrong, and it will turn around.
Darkwood,
Simply said, we want you to be happy within this event and have fun. Everybody is an adult here. We can't help if we don't know what the problems are. Remember, the guys putting in the hours to produce these events are players as well.
Those that have nothing more than aimless venom for the event and the guys that produce this fun for us have choices. They should act on those choices.
But ruining everyone else's fun is not one of those choices.
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We all do and strive to make it fun for everyone involved. :salute
And usually it is a lot of FUN. My squaddies and the other players is why I keep showing up. Haven't missed a FSO since coming back.
We was Axis for 3 FSO's and never once did I update nor did we get switched. So If I didn't update the page then that means I don't wanna switch.
Some may not think of it as a big deal but then again some of us do.
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And usually it is a lot of FUN. My squaddies and the other players is why I keep showing up. Haven't missed a FSO since coming back.
We was Axis for 3 FSO's and never once did I update nor did we get switched. So If I didn't update the page then that means I don't wanna switch.
Some may not think of it as a big deal but then again some of us do.
Thats the point of ensuring you update. We look at the last time each squad updates. If it has been a couple or few months, then we simply have to move squads around to balance. The squads that are not current usually will be shuffled around so we can maintain balance. It's the nature of the beast. Happened to me a LOT in the past. And even now, if the sides won't balance because one or two squads put in for the other side but the majority also is requesting the same side, we have no choice but to move squads around. Y'all aren't the first or last squad to go thru this. Happens to every single squad. I wish we could avoid it but its simply not possible. It is a big deal.
We all want to put squads where they want to be. For anyone to debate that fact lacks logistical understanding. I promise you that we do everything we can to ensure every squad is where they want to be. It just isn't possible every month. But I promise you that we do try.
All we can ask is that you update and we will do our best to ensure you get what you want. We cannot assume what your intent is because you haven't updated in months. That is not realistic to assume. Each squad is different. What we would assume for one squad is something different for another squad (intent). We go by what we see in front of us.
For instance. If a squad is asking for a particular ride, the CMs have no control over that. That is the CiC's job. But if we are assigning sides, we will assign squads according to which side they asked for. If I have to choose between any squad to balance a particular FSO, I will always look at who updated most recently and put them where they asked to be placed first. This is why it is so important to update regularly.
Again, I hope this doesn't run y'all off.
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How do you cus somebody out without getting kicked out of the game? I know you don't. Well, whoever is running the show tonight thanks for the wonderful job you did of setting up the arena so that the Axis were the only ones to see ICONS. You have such a cherished place in us Allied pilots hearts. You really, really, no really seem to know what you're doing. I don't care what my squad mates said, you not dumb and what my dog left in the yard this morning. Besides, who cares what those guys who pay the same as the Axis pay per month to fly while getting totally unequal or uneven gaming experience have to say. We should thank you for you trying to challenge us more while giving the Axis every advantage you possibly can in the arena due to your setup. I keep telling my squad mates that you're not totally inept and that despite the Allies paying the same price every month there is no reason to quit the game. You're just trying to make us better pilots. We really love what you have done for our Friday night adventure that we waited 3 whole weeks to fly. You're spectacularly Awesome. Excuse me now I have go and wipe. By the way, this is why people kills puppies. It's you and people like you.
Anchor sends
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Icons were fubar for the Axis as well.
If a player flew through a cloud, their icons turned off and they can't see icons either.
It's bullcrap, I agree.
We've had this issue before and the cause is known and how to correct it. The down side is that it requires changing the cloud file and affected player to relog. But nobody wants to put the event on hold for a few minutes to get everything reset and working properly for everyone. Which is extra bullcrap.
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Looks like all the a-holes are coming out.
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Looks like all the a-holes are coming out.
shame that they have to isn't it
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shame that they have to isn't it
Whats a shame is that your XO came in and made personal attacks about the CM's and orders when it's the individual squads putting the effort to put those together, not the CM. At least whine to the right people. There is such a thing as constructive criticism and then there's just being an a-hole, but i guess he's just following his lead.
For a game with an older player base it really feels like it's a bunch of 12 year old's.
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Whats a shame is that your XO
That is not my XO. He retired. He then came on here and added his .02 cents which he has the right to do.
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That is not my XO. He retired. He then came on here and added his .02 cents which he has the right to do.
Yep, like any other keyboard warrior… which lends a lot less credibility to his posts IMHO, thanks for clearing that up. :aok
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As a CM I didn't even know we could adjust icons for only one side.
Oh, that’s right. We can’t. :aok
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Yep, like any other keyboard warrior… which lends a lot less credibility to his posts IMHO, thanks for clearing that up. :aok
Credibility? Are you smoking crack????
He shared his personal experience with FSO.
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Sorry Darkwood, I should have removed my XO tag prior to speaking my mind. I removed it and they can all go pack sand.
I played this game non-stop for 10 years that's time and money vested in a game that I slowly watched go down hill. I retired / Quit playing because of crap like this. I spoke my mind because someone had too, sorry not sorry if i hurt peoples wittle feelings.
But your all correct this game and the OLDER player base running it will never change, way to set in their ways. I seen it first hand on how people got upset when things in an arena got changed around and that person got treated like crap, just because they were trying to make it fun and increase the numbers. To the point they were removed as staff because of someone crying about it.
-i'm out.
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I say to all players who can point out all the problems in FSO. Put your money where your mouth is. Join the CM team and help solve the problems.
We can use all the help we can.
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Put your money where your mouth is. Join the CM team and help solve the problems.
you act as if it is open enrollment when it isn't.
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you act as if it is open enrollment when it isn't.
Send a PM to Spikes for an application. The CM team reviews for a vote.
Just a fair warning, your open criticism which is welcome for constructive feedback but does contain much negative and directed angst at the CMs. There will be some resistance from others. If you can understand that being a volunteer player like a CM, public posts are to be done in a diplomatic way. You'll have to convince the others that you can change your public posts,
Everyone can change if they want to. I believe your mindset will change once you see the game from the other side. Once you see how all the events are discussed in the CM forum on BALANCE. The CMs who know the nuts and bolts of aircraft performance and how side balancing comes into play. Those discussions enlightened myself.
Normally, I would make this a PM to you. Since you are very open and honest with your opinions, I want the FSO community to read and see your response. Also, for other CMs to weigh in publicly any concerns. This is a special exception for you.
AKKuya, unofficial CM recruiter.
Any other out there wanting to join, contact Spikes.
:salute
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Send a PM to Spikes for an application. The CM team reviews for a vote.
Just a fair warning, your open criticism which is welcome for constructive feedback but does contain much negative and directed angst at the CMs. There will be some resistance from others. If you can understand that being a volunteer player like a CM, public posts are to be done in a diplomatic way. You'll have to convince the others that you can change your public posts,
Everyone can change if they want to. I believe your mindset will change once you see the game from the other side. Once you see how all the events are discussed in the CM forum on BALANCE. The CMs who know the nuts and bolts of aircraft performance and how side balancing comes into play. Those discussions enlightened myself.
Normally, I would make this a PM to you. Since you are very open and honest with your opinions, I want the FSO community to read and see your response. Also, for other CMs to weigh in publicly any concerns. This is a special exception for you.
AKKuya, unofficial CM recruiter.
Any other out there wanting to join, contact Spikes.
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I'm good on the CM position. I am not the a** kisser type.
As far as any criticism goes on my part, you mistake that with facts.
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Got the orders. Thanks. :aok