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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on February 11, 2022, 12:55:31 PM
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The thread is locked same time rumor has it Putin just ordered the invasion
Market falling
Eagler
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False alarm..markets rising..what a joke!
Eagler
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I got my entry in. :D
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They are still down.
But my first reaction to news these days is to ponder what the ulterior motive is for the news item.
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But my first reaction to news these days is to ponder what the ulterior motive is for the news item.
You have to be suspicious of anything and everything today.
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Make it a Harley and I'll think about it.
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In my opinion... I do not believe anyone in the U.S. government much less
the senate and house...
:salute
And it is their fault that most (imho) do not... maybe, just maybe, the citizens
of the U.S. will grow some balls and rise up but I doubt it :cheers:
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Seems the sure fire way to get the thread locked now are those lizard people comments :rolleyes:
Whoever and wth they are :noid
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wow didn't know they made Indian motorcycle anymore. years ago got a loan for a Harley. then torn ligaments on my left foot. a year later on my right. guess it wasn't meant to be.
semp
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Make it a Harley and I'll think about it.
Hey Rick, good to see you still around ! get a cold Labatt Blue :) :rock
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Hey Rick, good to see you still around ! get a cold Labatt Blue :) :rock
Great to hear from you too GHI. Hope all is well! :aok
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Well, on the coat tails of a locked thread this one starts out with false information followed immediately by what appears to be disappointment that the start of the war and the fall of the market did not, in fact, happen. Then we get an NRA ad (which could be viewed as spam I suppose). Then there's a call for an uprising. Then it all kinda dwindles down to hiyas. What a disappointing thread. Guess locks aren't needed in this case. :D
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So there are two basic possibilities as I see it.
First lets throw out the obvious BS. No, these are not just normal innocent military exercises. Russia controls a lot of territory that it could use for exercises. To conduct this scale of exercises where they are would be the height of incompetence and irresponsibility if it was just by coincidence. The odds of some accidental event getting a shooting war started by misunderstanding would be very high. It'd be like our military conducting live fire exercises in a parking lot in downtown Las Vegas.
This is either a planned invasion that they may or may not go through with now that they were spotted early and are under a microscope, or this was an intimidation attempt to display their military might to squeeze concessions out of NATO and Ukraine. In either case they are going to claim it's just exercises as long as possible.
If it's the former, I don't see how Putin calls it off at this point. Like the Guns of August, time-tables and logistics have a life of their own. I think the momentum towards war is hard to pull back from now.
If it's the latter case, I think it is a fundamental mis-calculation on Putin's part. If he pulls back now, it is not going to be seen as a close call and gosh it's scary what Putin could have done if he was really pissed off.
It's going to be seen as the West having stared Putin down and backed him down. It will embolden and strengthen NATO and Ukraine's confidence and willingness to stand up to Putin in the future. After all, if they backed him down once.... The loss of face would be catastrophic for an authoritarian whos authority rests on his illusion of invincibility. He almost has to go in now to preserve his power, regardless of the cost, and hope for a quick victory and China coming through with enough trade and economic support to deflect the inevitable sanctions.
Putin may have painted himself into a corner. No one will believe it had all been exercises after all. If he doesn't invade at this point, it is a clear defeat and loss of face. A death sentence for an authoritarian.
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Well, on the coat tails of a locked thread this one starts out with false information followed immediately by what appears to be disappointment that the start of the war and the fall of the market did not, in fact, happen. Then we get an NRA ad (which could be viewed as spam I suppose).
No more spammy than tons of threads with links to random Youtube videos nobody cares about.
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the fall of the market did not, in fact, happen.
It's the Friday 2% drop that people were talking about, which did happen. That's a big drop for a day, but of course one day isn't generally what matters.
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It's the Friday 2% drop that people were talking about, which did happen. That's a big drop for a day, but of course one day isn't generally what matters.
Markets almost never bottom on a Fri. I expect further bleeding next week. Could be wrong.
If Putin announces the "exercises are over" :rolleyes: and intel confirms significant withdrawal of forces starting, then expect a mini-Bull rally...until the Ides of March. :D
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No more spammy than tons of threads with links to random Youtube videos nobody cares about.
Oh yes more spammy. The Youtubes I post are at least interesting topics (or if you don't find them so, they weren't trying to sell you something or ask for money). The NRA needs your money. Pony up. :cool:
(And tons? Heh.)
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In my opinion... I do not believe anyone in the U.S. government much less
the senate and house...
:salute
And it is their fault that most (imho) do not... maybe, just maybe, the citizens
of the U.S. will grow some balls and rise up but I doubt it :cheers:
maybe they have balls to do it the right way. vote, instead of destroying the economy.
i laugh at Facebook pages that call for term limits, they are called election. there's a law against insurrection, there's not many laws against voting.
semp
edit: by the way bringing arms against the goverment is called treason, it's the only crime spelled in the constitution. you want change, constitution gives you another option vote. you can say blah, blah, the other side, thruth is the other side also says blah, blah blah.
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there's not many laws against voting.
Well, there's laws designed to make voting harder ... for some ... because of ... you know .. not having an electable platform that all eligible voters could dig.
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Well, there's laws designed to make voting harder ... for some ... because of ... you know .. not having an electable platform that all eligible voters could dig.
that is true, 90k native american indians with id were denied the right to vote. you may want to research that.
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Well, there's laws designed to make voting harder ... for some ... because of ... you know .. not having an electable platform that all eligible voters could dig.
Pffff.
Needing an ID to vote is quite standard in many places in the world.
I don't see people getting all worried about needing an ID to: drive, take an airplane, pick up a concert ticket, get a credit card, get a bank account, get a telephone land line, get cable TV, get Internet, pick up your kids, cash a check, get an apartment, buy a house, get a loan, get a license plate, etc.
By the way, is the above message of yours that I'm responding to a political post?
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Pffff.
Needing an ID to vote is quite standard in many places in the world.
I don't see people getting all worried about needing an ID to: drive, take an airplane, pick up a concert ticket, get a credit card, get a bank account, get a telephone land line, get cable TV, get Internet, pick up your kids, cash a check, get an apartment, buy a house, get a loan, get a license plate, etc.
By the way, is the above message of yours that I'm responding to a political post?
id is not spelled in the constitution to vote. flying, internet, cash check is not a right, it's a priviledge.
semp
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Pffff.
Needing an ID to vote is quite standard in many places in the world.
I don't see people getting all worried about needing an ID to: drive, take an airplane, pick up a concert ticket, get a credit card, get a bank account, get a telephone land line, get cable TV, get Internet, pick up your kids, cash a check, get an apartment, buy a house, get a loan, get a license plate, etc.
By the way, is the above message of yours that I'm responding to a political post?
I tend to agree. However the thing to consider is that there are a lot of people in certain parts of town that don't drive, fly on airlines, have credit cards, or license plates. So it could be seen as a mechanism to make it harder for those people to vote like a poll tax used to.
An obvious solution is to create a photo id system tied with social services. If you are in the social services system, then you already have a photo id. And they should accept photo student ids as well.
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I tend to agree. However the thing to consider is that there are a lot of people in certain parts of town that don't drive, fly on airlines, have credit cards, or license plates. So it could be seen as a mechanism to make it harder for those people to vote like a poll tax used to.
An obvious solution is to create a photo id system tied with social services. If you are in the social services system, then you already have a photo id. And they should accept photo student ids as well.
still doesn't answer the question of why over 90k american natives were denied by law the right to vote. they had id.
semp
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still doesn't answer the question of why over 90k american natives were denied by law the right to vote. they had id.
<Shrug> I'm not familiar with that situation. What was the reason given?
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<Shrug> I'm not familiar with that situation. What was the reason given?
they lived on a reservation which has no street names, they had poboxes in the nearest town. since their id showed a pobox as an address they were denied the vote you have to have a street address. if you are homeless, you can legally register using a park bench in a park. but they werent homeless. so they couldnt vote. at least 90k in 3 states.
semp
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they lived on a reservation which has no street names, they had poboxes in the nearest town. since their id showed a pobox as an address they were denied the vote you have to have a street address. if you are homeless, you can legally register using a park bench in a park. but they werent homeless. so they couldnt vote. at least 90k in 3 states.
Well, that is just a sub-class of what I already acknowledged. If you are going to require a photo id, you have to make efforts to get people who don't have traditional access to driver licenses or normal street addresses, etc. You can't put unreasonable burdens on marginal population to travel distances to get these ids.
It shouldn't be a burden for American's to get their id's and to access voting locations and have access to mail-in voting where the distances are unreasonable like the hinterlands of Alaska or something. Community out reach programs for the state ought to have funding and authority to travel to marginalized communities and setup mobile id stations. Like a big bus that can pull into a school parking lot in a community and people come by with what ever records might work and go in one door and come out the back with a printed photo id.
It seems reasonable to require an id, but facilities needs to be setup for valid voters to get the proper ids regardless of their economic conditions. Id laws shouldn't be able to be used as backdoor poll taxes.
This country put men on the Moon. Surely we can solve a technical problem like this.
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id is not spelled in the constitution to vote. flying, internet, cash check is not a right, it's a priviledge.
semp
Both sentences in the above contain misperceptions.
In the first, you are assuming that if the Constitution doesn't spell it out, it can't be required. That is incorrect and is the subject of the 10th Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
In the case of voting, it is reserved to the States on how they each conduct their voting to determine their Electors and representatives.
In the second, you are assuming that Constitutional rights cannot require an ID. That is incorrect.
For example, there is one right that is spelled out in its own Amendment, the 2nd Amendment, wherein "the right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed". Yet in most states, you need an ID to get arms, an ID and a permit to bear certain arms, aren't free to carry certain arms across state lines, adherence to rules on how you must keep your arms, transport your arms, who can and cannot have arms, and where you can and cannot bear arms.
Similarly, in the case of voting, some states do require ID.
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However the thing to consider is that there are a lot of people in certain parts of town that don't drive, fly on airlines, have credit cards, or license plates.
You don't need a driver's license or license plates or a credit card.
In states that care about voter ID, to get a voter-registration card, you need to show that you are a US citizen and a resident of the state.
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the constitution says that all citizens have a right to vote, state can and do deny the right for those convicted of some crimes. but law abiding citizens with id are being denied the right to vote. so how is requiring id deny citizens the right to vote? the point of id is to make sure only those eligible can vote, so why did American native are being denied that right? my argument is requiring id is to stop a certain group to vote.
now they're pushing for no vote on Sundays, which is when historically another group votes, you can argue well you can vote Saturday or Sunday but the truth is they hope less will vote.
semp
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my argument is requiring id is to stop a certain group to vote.
Your idea is that voter ID is designed to preclude Native Americans from voting.
My idea is that voter ID is designed to cut down on voter fraud and would not preclude Native Americans.
For example, I just moved from Washington to Tennessee. Washington was trivially easy to get registered to vote. Tennessee took effort. People who want no voter ID probably don't like Tennessee's system. However, the level of effort I put in is the same level of effort it takes people who do not have Tennessee ID's or established Tennessee residences -- because that was my situation. It doesn't preclude Native Americans, or the homeless (they have procedures for that situation), or any other Tennessee residents who can legally vote.
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Are we discussing funky monkey voting practices here as it pertains to Ukraine's military crisis now perhaps?
Or just a coincidence...lol
Though probably related to discuss such a tie in might lock this one too so please don't
Eagler
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Remember, it's not racist or fascist for a person to have to show an ID to eat a cheeseburger. Funny what a bunch of hypocrites they all are.
We all know the the real reason why they don't want voter ID.
Ohh look at that. The Pentagon is sending US Troops to Ukraine while the cartel continues to ruin America at the US border. It's seriously about time for the Vets in this country to really stand up. I do not support this.
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Are we discussing funky monkey voting practices here as it pertains to Ukraine's military crisis now perhaps?
Or just a coincidence...lol
Though probably related to discuss such a tie in might lock this one too so please don't
Eagler
Well if you and Dmnslayer refuse to even make a passing attempt at following the rules, locked thread after locked thread, without being held accountable in anyway, then I don't know why anyone else should bother paying attention to the rules either.
If threads that aren't political get continually lock instead of actually specifically dealing with the individuals guilty, then there is no point in trying to follow the rules.
There seems to be no punishment for repeated violations, and no protection for attempting to follow the rules. So why bother.
Those that try and follow the rules, are just suckers.
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Well if you and Dmnslayer refuse to even make a passing attempt at following the rules, locked thread after locked thread, without being held accountable in anyway, then I don't know why anyone else should bother paying attention to the rules either.
If threads that aren't political get continually lock instead of actually specifically dealing with the individuals guilty, then there is no point in trying to follow the rules.
There seems to be no punishment for repeated violations, and no protection for attempting to follow the rules. So why bother.
Those that try and follow the rules, are just suckers.
Yeah like we are the only ones, and no one else starts it or initiates it :rolleyes:. Hitech closes a thread and then you guys just rush to reopen a new one. That's on yall. I'm just here to expose the hypocrisy with all of this BS.
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Yeah like we are the only ones, and no one else starts it or initiates it :rolleyes:. Hitech closes a thread and then you guys just rush to reopen a new one. That's on yall. I'm just here to expose the hypocrisy with all of this BS.
You and Eagler are 99.999% of the problem and yet are allowed to close thread after thread with no cost. The offenders posts are not deleted. The posters are not given vacations. But the whole thread is closed.
Maybe it depends on what side of the political fence the offender falls.
In any case, there is perverse incentive established. Punishment for everyone except the repeat offenders.
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You and Eagler are 99.999% of the problem and yet are allowed to close thread after thread with no cost. The offenders posts are not deleted. The posters are not given vacations. But the whole thread is closed.
Maybe it depends on what side of the political fence the offender falls.
In any case, there is perverse incentive established. Punishment for everyone except the repeat offenders.
Says the guy starting the political threads. LOL. Typical hypocrisy. I'm just here to call it out.
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Remember, it's not racist or fascist for a person to have to show an ID to eat a cheeseburger. Funny what a bunch of hypocrites they all are.
not once in my life have i had to show id to eat a burger.
semp
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not once in my life have i had to show id to eat a burger.
semp
Over the past couple of years, all of these cities announced legal requirement to show vax ID to get into restaurants: New York, DC, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Minneapolis, St. Paul, San Francisco, LA, Seattle.
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Over the past couple of years, all of these cities announced legal requirement to show vax ID to get into restaurants: New York, DC, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Minneapolis, St. Paul, San Francisco, LA, Seattle.
Those I would gladly not do business with if I was forced to show "ze papers"
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maybe they have balls to do it the right way. vote, instead of destroying the economy.
i laugh at Facebook pages that call for term limits, they are called election. there's a law against insurrection, there's not many laws against voting.
semp
edit: by the way bringing arms against the goverment is called treason, it's the only crime spelled in the constitution. you want change, constitution gives you another option vote. you can say blah, blah, the other side, thruth is the other side also says blah, blah blah.
The problem with voting is the government has split us up so much we can't change anything meaningful... as for being treasonous... Jefferson was in favor of a rebellion every few years... and what would u call the founders with regard to king George?
:salute
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Those I would gladly not do business with if I was forced to show "ze papers"
MAkes it easier for the rest of us vaxed to get a seat
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The thread is locked same time rumor has it Putin just ordered the invasion
Market falling
Eagler
You have no class girl. You are going to start a new thread that just got closed.
Tasteless.
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Over the past couple of years, all of these cities announced legal requirement to show vax ID to get into restaurants: New York, DC, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Minneapolis, St. Paul, San Francisco, LA, Seattle.
no, no no, not the same thing. he said you need id to get a cheeseburger. show me a city where you can drive up and show id to get a burger. I am just saying that because even in 2020, I could go anywhere and get a burger and not show id. heck I live in california, san bernardino county, even when the pandemic started, restaurants around here set up tents and you could get whatever food they served. imagine that a liberal state that adapted. I am trippled vaxxed, if it means i get a 5 or 6 or a vaccine every month for the rest of my llife, I can still get a cheese burger anywhere i want without showing id. I have not once had to show my vaccination card. sure there's cities that require it, but only if you want to eat inside, most have outside eating.
but that doesnt have anything to do with voting, does it. truth is, voting fraud is even rarer than the steak I like to cook, my brothers and sisters make fun of me, they say the cow still alive. truth is there's hundreds or perhaps a few thousands of people that vote illegally. compared to the millions that voted legally, all you need is for somebody to say, no way I can lose, must have been fraud and you bought into it.
fact is legal citizens with legal id are denied the right to vote, and laws are being changed to make it even harder for citizens to vote.
semp
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Nope nothing political about this.....or the other thread!
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :bolt:
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The problem with voting is the government has split us up so much we can't change anything meaningful... as for being treasonous... Jefferson was in favor of a rebellion every few years... and what would u call the founders with regard to king George?
:salute
if jefferson was in favor of a rebellion every few years he would have committed treason, and I dont think he was for it. you dont live the government legal way is vote them out, or bring arms and commit treason and pay for it. treason is the only crime described in the constitution.
semp
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show me a city
https://youtu.be/IXN2rBsK3Sg?t=2
https://youtu.be/e6ls4l7UrGg?t=3
https://youtu.be/rDvCCrcQ198?t=14
https://youtu.be/rDvCCrcQ198?t=52
https://youtu.be/hhNiG6SlvZQ?t=9
https://youtu.be/JZM09qNsN3s?t=14
https://youtu.be/R-mhtqBdKg4?t=20
I am just saying that because even in 2020, I could go anywhere and get a burger
Anywhere except indoors in New York, DC, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Minneapolis, St. Paul, San Francisco, LA, Seattle.
but only if you want to eat inside, most have outside eating.
It's not great eating outside in January in New York, DC, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, St. Paul, and I would include San Francisco and Seattle.
but that doesnt have anything to do with voting, does it.
It does, but indirectly, as in motivating people's votes.
truth is there's hundreds or perhaps a few thousands of people that vote illegally.
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fact is legal citizens with legal id are denied the right to vote
I think voter fraud is far larger than number of people illegally denied voting.
Regardless how we feel about that, though, both things can be solved by correctly implemented voter ID -- that proves you *can* vote and can't be denied. It's not rocket science.
There are about 100 countries that have voter ID, including: Canada, Switzerland, Germany, UK, Italy, France, Israel, Ireland, Iceland, Denmark, Netherlands, Japan, South Korea, Greece, Panama, Philippines, Brazil, Romania, Singapore, Turkey, Thailand, Kenya, Nigeria, Belgium, Finland, Spain, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Luxembourg, to name a handful.
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https://youtu.be/IXN2rBsK3Sg?t=2
https://youtu.be/e6ls4l7UrGg?t=3
https://youtu.be/rDvCCrcQ198?t=14
https://youtu.be/rDvCCrcQ198?t=52
https://youtu.be/hhNiG6SlvZQ?t=9
https://youtu.be/JZM09qNsN3s?t=14
https://youtu.be/R-mhtqBdKg4?t=20
Anywhere except indoors in New York, DC, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Minneapolis, St. Paul, San Francisco, LA, Seattle.
It's not great eating outside in January in New York, DC, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, St. Paul, and I would include San Francisco and Seattle.
It does, but indirectly, as in motivating people's votes.
I think voter fraud is far larger than number of people illegally denied voting.
Regardless how we feel about that, though, both things can be solved by correctly implemented voter ID -- that proves you *can* vote and can't be denied. It's not rocket science.
There are about 100 countries that have voter ID, including: Canada, Switzerland, Germany, UK, Italy, France, Israel, Ireland, Iceland, Denmark, Netherlands, Japan, South Korea, Greece, Panama, Philippines, Brazil, Romania, Singapore, Turkey, Thailand, Kenya, Nigeria, Belgium, Finland, Spain, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Luxembourg, to name a handful.
really in those cities, you could not go to a drive thru or outside, or even cook your own burger without showing id?
I find that hard to believe. and whatever those countries laws say, they dont apply here do there. because i can name things in those countries that dont happen here with id.
for example the 90, native americans with id that got denied the right to vote. quote me wrong on this.
semp
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really in those cities
Let's revisit what we're talking about here.
Remember, it's not racist or fascist for a person to have to show an ID to eat a cheeseburger.
Which is referring to needing vax ID's to go into restaurants.
To which you replied:
not once in my life have i had to show id to eat a burger.
To which I replied:
Over the past couple of years, all of these cities announced legal requirement to show vax ID to get into restaurants: New York, DC, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Minneapolis, St. Paul, San Francisco, LA, Seattle.
In other words, maybe you didn't need one, but folks wanting to go into restaurants in those cities did have to show ID.
That's my only point. Arguing other things that aren't my point is a total waste of time.
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and whatever those countries laws say, they dont apply here do there. because i can name things in those countries that dont happen here with id.
It's useful to see what works and what doesn't in history, and in other places.
As you say, sometimes a thing that works elsewhere or elsewhen isn't a good thing to do here and now. Because there are important differences that would make it not work.
But sometimes it is a good thing to do. Because the circumstances are similar.
It depends on details.
Voting is a very simple and common thing, though.
for example the 90, native americans with id that got denied the right to vote. quote me wrong on this.
When did I say that's wrong? I think there are more voter fraud instances than that, though. I also think that a correctly implemented voter-ID system would help preclude that sort of problem.
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By the way, semp, I think you and I both want the same thing: no one denied his or her legal vote.
You are focused on the Native Americans in your example. I don't think that's right either.
I am also focused on people whose votes are spoiled through fraud. You think that's small enough to ignore.
My feeling is that a good voting system solves both problems. It gives voters an undeniable means to vote, and it protects against fraud.
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if jefferson was in favor of a rebellion every few years he would have committed treason, and I dont think he was for it. you dont live the government legal way is vote them out, or bring arms and commit treason and pay for it. treason is the only crime described in the constitution.
semp
Brooke did say ‘every few years’, BUT that is not what Jefferson wrote. Thomas Jefferson wrote in a letter to James Madison on society and government “I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.”
Semp you stated on 200 you were packing (smoking) a bowl and while writing here on this topic, it now makes a lot more sense why so much of what you write seems like you didn’t read or comprehend the posts you’re responding to. Brooke stated several times what he meant by having ID to “eat a burger,” and it still looks like you don’t understand.
Not trying to pick on you but now that I know it’s the alcohol weed combo, many of your posts make more sense.
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And this is how it ends...
Arguing about the color of the sky while ww3 rages on
They have us hating and arguing amongst ourselves while those that spin up the division laugh all the way to the bank...they have won
If this board has shown me anything some here live very different and interesting lives
:)
Eagler
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if jefferson was in favor of a rebellion every few years he would have committed treason, and I dont think he was for it. you dont live the government legal way is vote them out, or bring arms and commit treason and pay for it. treason is the only crime described in the constitution.
semp
One countries treasonous act is an other's patriotism
:salute
Thomas Jefferson wrote in a letter to James Madison on society and government "I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.”
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It seems to me "... and then is a good thing... " IS an endorsement of rebellion"
:salute
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nvrmind
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I think voter fraud is far larger than number of people illegally denied voting.
There are about 100 countries that have voter ID, including: Canada, Switzerland, Germany, UK, Italy, France, Israel, Ireland, Iceland, Denmark, Netherlands, Japan, South Korea, Greece, Panama, Philippines, Brazil, Romania, Singapore, Turkey, Thailand, Kenya, Nigeria, Belgium, Finland, Spain, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Luxembourg, to name a handful.
Now how did we guess that the old voter fraud sausage would rear it's ugly head again... and in spite of Mar-a-Lardo being proven wrong countless times.
By the way, I cannot speak for the other countries on your list but there is no such thing as voter ID (beyond a driver's license) in Canada.
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Brooke did say ‘every few years’, BUT that is not what Jefferson wrote. Thomas Jefferson wrote in a letter to James Madison on society and government “I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.”
Semp you stated on 200 you were packing (smoking) a bowl and while writing here on this topic, it now makes a lot more sense why so much of what you write seems like you didn’t read or comprehend the posts you’re responding to. Brooke stated several times what he meant by having ID to “eat a burger,” and it still looks like you don’t understand.
Not trying to pick on you but now that I know it’s the alcohol weed combo, many of your posts make more sense.
when I say I'm packing a bowl, I actually mean smoking a cigarette. i do smoke a bowl once or twice a week but that's after playing the game. I'm bipolar and it got me off medication, also use it for pain on back and legs. for which I don't take pills either.
but for understanding, I understand correctly. for example there's counties in a few states that don't allow sale of alcohol, that doesn't mean I can claim that alcohol is banned. same for burgers maybe in some cities you need to be vaxxed to enter a restaurant, that doesn't mean you need id to eat a burger. ask yourself that question, do I need a card to eat a burger, the answer is no.
which brings back the vote thing, there's dozens of voter fraud, it's on the news so the time, it's wide spread voter fraud? I don't think so.
so the laws are not being used to stop voter fraud, they are being used to stop some people who are legally allowed to vote.
that's what I think anyway.
semp
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in spite of Mar-a-Lardo being proven wrong countless times.
Proven wrong where?
By the way, I cannot speak for the other countries on your list but there is no such thing as voter ID (beyond a driver's license) in Canada.
Driver's license to vote is voter ID. It's ID you need to present to vote.
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Proven wrong where?
Driver's license to vote is voter ID. It's ID you need to present to vote.
Some states let illegals get license. Does not work.
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Some states let illegals get license. Does not work.
Yes, but in Canada, using driver's license as an ID to vote is voter ID there. That was my only point.
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Some states let illegals get license. Does not work.
all states let people convicted of felonies to have a driver's license or id. they can't vote either. I don't see you complaining about that.
it has been proven that voter fraud is so insignificant based on prosecution that the current trend is they get away with it. the ex pres was trying to register to vote in Florida while using a Washington address. is that proof that fraud is rampant?
semp
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Yes, but in Canada, using driver's license as an ID to vote is voter ID there. That was my only point.
Ahh thought we were talking about the US.
Even Canadians can probably get a way with voting here while they are down here getting medical treatment.