General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: zack1234 on May 05, 2022, 03:25:41 AM
Title: Well done
Post by: zack1234 on May 05, 2022, 03:25:41 AM
Well done China for having the fastest train in the world :old:
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 05, 2022, 08:09:00 AM
You're being playing by your illiterate masters. They feed it and you eat it up.
The world record fastest train is Japanese.
The world record for a conventional wheeled passenger train is held by France's TGV (Train à Grande Vitesse), set in 2007 when it reached 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph) on a 140 km (87 mi) section of track.[1]
Japan's experimental maglev train L0 Series achieved 603 km/h (375 mph) on a 42.8 km magnetic levitation track in 2015.[2]
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 05, 2022, 08:10:43 AM
I just think you'd be better off minding your own business. I know that's a lot to ask.
The op is getting what he dishes out. He's simply trolling and presenting incorrect information.
Public forum and thread. And I might suggest you not fall so badly for trolls. This isn't ICOM. I have faith in you to rise up (more so than in Zack but if he would that'd be nice, as well). :)
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 05, 2022, 11:34:30 AM
I guess it's impossible for you to mind your own business. Forum busy body.
Being rather 'bulldoggish' yerownself. Since you want to drag out a 'discussion' with me how about we change gears to something more interesting/entertaining?
Do you like?:
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: Shuffler on May 05, 2022, 11:40:59 AM
Man on the plane tells a woman, "you're ugly". She responds, "you're drunk". The man says, "yes, I am drunk, but I'll be sober in the morning".
:aok
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 05, 2022, 12:50:44 PM
Being rather 'bulldoggish' yerownself. Since you want to drag out a 'discussion' with me how about we change gears to something more interesting/entertaining?
Do you like?:
Where do you get that I want to drag out a discussion with you? I just want you to mind your own business. I have zero interest in discussing anything with you. I've seen your 'discussion' style. Pretty much why you are not on icom.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: Peanut1 on May 05, 2022, 12:56:58 PM
Churchill say? I may be a drunk but in the morning I'll be sober, and you'll still be stupid. Or was it ugly? I forget.
Three Churchill anecdotes that I like.
A woman said to Churchill, "Mr. Churchill, you're drunk." Churchill replied, "Madam, you're ugly, but in the morning, I'll be sober."
The second happened when Churchill entered a horse draw carriage with the Queen. Just as Churchill sat down, the horse farted. The Queen said, "My apologies, Mr. Churchill." Churchill replied, "No need, Your Majesty, I thought it was the horse."
And finally, while on a visit to America, in Virginia, Churchill attended a dinner given in his honor. When asked which piece of fried chicken he liked, Churchill said, "Madam, I prefer the breast." His hostess replied, "In the South, we would say, 'I prefer a piece of white meat.'" The next day the flower shop delivered a corsage for the hostess with a note that said, "Madam, I'd be honored if you'd pin this to your white meat."
Sounds like a reason for China to grab Taiwan sooner than later
It has been my belief that China has been planning for a Taiwan invasion as a serious, realistic, near term contingency for at least the last year.
However, I had watched another video, I think with the same guy, where they went over all the reasons that a China Taiwan invasion would be much harder than Russia's Ukraine invasion.
* Ukraine has been preparing for this Russian invasion for 8 years. Taiwan has been preparing for 80 years.
* Russia had thousands of miles of open, shared border with Ukraine where they had the choice of entry points for their core military capability (i.e. heavy armor). China would have to cross 100 miles of the worlds most heavily militarized open water to reach Taiwan shores. China's naval capability is not their core competency.
* The US had no defense obligations to Ukraine prior to the Russian invasion. The US has had a long standing (though unofficial) commitment to the defense of Taiwan. If the US couldn't stand by idly and watch Ukraine be invaded, it is guaranteed we couldn't with Taiwan.
* Russia is a net energy exporter. For now that is keeping them afloat despite the other sanctions. Still the sanctions are massive and crushing. Later this year as EU starts turning off pipelines, they will turn terminal. China is a net importer of energy and their entire economic existence relies on exporting. The same sanctions/embargos/blockades on China would have 10x the effect. It would probably be kinder to just nuke them.
* Russia and China expected the West to be disunified and dither and wring our hands and stand by and watch as Ukraine was invaded without serious consequences. The sudden and massive coalescing of the West against Russia has changed China's calculation of the likely costs of a Taiwan invasion. The projected ROI is now totally different.
* The entire nature of the China\Russia axis has been undermined. Russia was supposed to be the military arm of the alliance able to provide hardware and military expertise to the partnership and China was supposed to be the economic powerhouse funding the alliance. Now it is obvious that Russian hardware is sub-standard, their tactics are outdated and ineffective, and they are a pale shadow of their former Soviet glory days. As well, China has seen just how sweeping and devastating the Western sanction capability is and how willing we are to use it under the right circumstances and how vulnerable they would be to it. China's economic power would vaporize within months of such a response.
As long as Ukraine has a desire to resist, we should be pouring the entire military production capacity of the western world into that battle-space. It's the best deal for our money we could hope for. Ukraine is the killing-field to destroy Russia and keep the rest of EU safe so we can fight them there by proxy and destroy their military and economy, instead of fighting in Poland or Finland, or Latvia.
Every Russian we kill in Ukraine makes it less likely of losing an American serviceman in an attempt to defend Taiwan. If Ukraine is willing to fight, we should drown them in weapons and material and supplies.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: Eagler on May 06, 2022, 09:38:04 AM
China has the world on its knees with self created supply chain shortages..
I think they could win a war with economics without firing a single shot
I think they started it all late 2019, early 2020 and have been feeding it since
If economic action isn't enough another bio release might accomplish it
More ways to win a war than militarily these days
Eagler
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: CptTrips on May 06, 2022, 09:40:44 AM
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 06, 2022, 10:06:42 AM
I could be wrong, but I don't think sanctions have ever really been effective at getting the intended results. Sometimes the affected country just starts a war. Other times, the country just seems to suck it up and keep on going forever.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: CptTrips on May 06, 2022, 10:36:16 AM
I could be wrong, but I don't think sanctions have ever really been effective at getting the intended results. Sometimes the affected country just starts a war. Other times, the country just seems to suck it up and keep on going forever.
We essentially defeated the Soviet Union with a long term, low grade economic war without all-out military engagement.
Star Wars (even if it was largely fake) was the nail in the coffin when they realized there was going to be no way their economy could compete with the expense that would take to match our efforts.
If China decides to go suicidal and start a shooting war with us that would be unfortunate. Americans would die, but no knowledgeable person has any doubt of the outcome of a full-scale conflict with the US.
However, the fundamental point is, the unexpected resolve of the West in the Ukraine example, and the object lesson of the difficulty of an invasion even under near ideal conditions, is changing China's ROI calculations of a Taiwan invasion as we speak, making it much less likely they will pull the trigger after all. Every dead Russian in Ukraine saves an American life in the Taiwan Straight. The Chinese aren't Jihadists. Suicide really isn't their jam.
The best chance a overall world peace is putting more warheads on Russian foreheads in Ukraine and utterly crushing them economically for generations. Russia has it coming, and China is watching.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: zack1234 on May 06, 2022, 10:39:35 AM
China man bad :rofl Russian man bad :rofl All your investment portfolios and savings are linked to big US financial institutions investing in china :rofl
You people never blame yourselves always others.
Reality check you people have no say in any political decisions.
In August it will be the Middle East again and then it will the covid nonesense.
No wonder the elites despise the lower orders.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 06, 2022, 11:54:04 AM
We essentially defeated the Soviet Union with a long term, low grade economic war without all-out military engagement.
Star Wars (even if it was largely fake) was the nail in the coffin when they realized there was going to be no way their economy could compete with the expense that would take to match our efforts.
If China decides to go suicidal and start a shooting war with us that would be unfortunate. Americans would die, but no knowledgeable person has any doubt of the outcome of a full-scale conflict with the US.
However, the fundamental point is, the unexpected resolve of the West in the Ukraine example, and the object lesson of the difficulty of an invasion even under near ideal conditions, is changing China's ROI calculations of a Taiwan invasion as we speak, making it much less likely they will pull the trigger after all. Every dead Russian in Ukraine saves an American life in the Taiwan Straight. The Chinese aren't Jihadists. Suicide really isn't their jam.
The best chance a overall world peace is putting more warheads on Russian foreheads in Ukraine and utterly crushing them economically for generations. Russia has it coming, and China is watching.
Excellent points. Thank you!
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: Eagler on May 06, 2022, 12:08:27 PM
What if a strain of covid that is truly as lethal against the healthy as the previous ones were against the most elderly and the morbidly obese suddenly popped up in Taiwan?
It worked with Hong Kong ... stopped all that noise immediately
More than one way to skin a cat...and China is working on them now
Eagler
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: fuzeman on May 06, 2022, 05:26:42 PM
Maybe somebody should read a book on fast trains.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: FLS on May 06, 2022, 06:01:07 PM
China has the world on its knees with self created supply chain shortages.. ...
I think China is a house of cards built on inflated currency. The supply chain can recover without China. China can't recover without foreign trade. Their one child policy has given them a poor future. They have a surfeit of single military age men which tends to destabilize governments if you don't send them off somewhere. My worry is that, like with Russia, the problem is not their strength but their weakness and desperation and nukes. China is rolling along, not off the tracks like Russia now, but heading for trouble.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: MiloMorai on May 06, 2022, 07:16:36 PM
I think China is a house of cards built on inflated currency. The supply chain can recover without China. China can't recover without foreign trade. Their one child policy has given them a poor future. They have a surfeit of single military age men which tends to destabilize governments if you don't send them off somewhere. My worry is that, like with Russia, the problem is not their strength but their weakness and desperation and nukes. China is rolling along, not off the tracks like Russia now, but heading for trouble.
China is no rush. It has always played the waiting game. Probably waiting for the USofA to implode.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 06, 2022, 08:10:45 PM
China is no rush. It has always played the waiting game. Probably waiting for the USofA to implode.
What? Wait a second. I thought you said in another thread that MMGW was going to kill us all. I wish you people would pick a scare tactic and stick with it. China on the other hand is a REAL threat.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: RotBaron on May 07, 2022, 02:35:32 AM
What? Wait a second. I thought you said in another thread that MMGW was going to kill us all. I wish you people would pick a scare tactic and stick with it. China on the other hand is a REAL threat.
Well he also said that I (and Eagler) start the most threads that get locked, when in fact he started 4 and so did I in the past year that ended up locked.
I don’t know about him, but I don’t start threads with the intention that they’ll get get locked whether it be sooner or later.
^ I’m sure Arlo will be along soon to counter.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: zack1234 on May 07, 2022, 03:12:25 AM
What? Wait a second. I thought you said in another thread that MMGW was going to kill us all. I wish you people would pick a scare tactic and stick with it. China on the other hand is a REAL threat.
You sure have a reading comprehension problem.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: RUSH1 on May 07, 2022, 04:17:38 PM
Well he also said that I (and Eagler) start the most threads that get locked, when in fact he started 4 and so did I in the past year that ended up locked.
I don’t know about him, but I don’t start threads with the intention that they’ll get get locked whether it be sooner or later.
^ I’m sure Arlo will be along soon to counter.
Thanks for all that love Rot. :aok
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: Arlo on May 07, 2022, 07:07:15 PM
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: Shuffler on May 08, 2022, 10:15:01 AM
In china, the biggest offender of non-payment for work completed is the government. Employees work with no pay when constructing buildings and only get paid months, years, later when the building fills up. Many times never ever getting paid. The government is the number one purveyor of non-payment.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 08, 2022, 02:56:22 PM
In china, the biggest offender of non-payment for work completed is the government. Employees work with no pay when constructing buildings and only get paid months, years, later when the building fills up. Many times never ever getting paid. The government is the number one purveyor of non-payment.
That's interesting. I didn't know that. I wonder why that would be? Do they not have cash flow or something? I don't get that.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: Eagler on May 08, 2022, 03:15:46 PM
25 million locked down is a government that can do anything it wants
In china, the biggest offender of non-payment for work completed is the government. Employees work with no pay when constructing buildings and only get paid months, years, later when the building fills up. Many times never ever getting paid. The government is the number one purveyor of non-payment.
It’s true I saw it Frontline. Why you ask, because it is a country ruled by the communist party.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: zack1234 on May 09, 2022, 07:43:28 AM
Why not make Apple products in Detroit?
That would be patriotic :)
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: MiloMorai on May 09, 2022, 07:52:45 AM
Greed has seen to that..but these woke youth have zero issues camping out overnight to insure the purchase of their latest widget they cannot live without regardless of the fact it was manufactured under conditions they themselves would not work under..nor would they be willing to pay double if was assembled by union workers in the US.
Hypocrites and fakes - all of them
Eagler
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 09, 2022, 08:48:52 AM
Well you can't blame people and companies for looking out for their bottom dollar. China is basically the world's manufacturing center. Cheap labor. I mean that's just obvious I don't need to say that.
It might not always be that way. I remember about 10 years ago or so they were saying Africa was going to be the next manufacturing center and source of cheap labor. I'm not sure that'll ever happen.
The United States still manufactures a lot of stuff though. Some people will pay for higher quality and a stamp that says made in the USA on it. Or made in England or made in Canada or made in Germany. I know I do.
But when it comes to everyday items that really don't matter much, I don't want to spend top dollar. Like just basic household goods or t-shirts or whatever. I don't mind that China makes a lot of stuff.
China doesn't have much of an internal consumer market. That's what I'm thinking. I'm not sure that the workers there are being elevated into a middle class status. I know there's a lot of rich people in China but there are way more poor people. I'm not sure if they will ever have their own consumer base that could support their manufacturing if it weren't for the outside world buying all of China stuff.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: MiloMorai on May 09, 2022, 08:53:00 AM
Greed has seen to that..but these woke youth have zero issues camping out overnight to insure the purchase of their latest widget they cannot live without regardless of the fact it was manufactured under conditions they themselves would not work under..nor would they be willing to pay double if was assembled by union workers in the US.
Hypocrites and fakes - all of them
Eagler
Double?? I would say double the double.
Is it really their fault when they are brainwashed by advertising?
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: Eagler on May 09, 2022, 08:53:40 AM
Cheap labor = slave labor
It allows us all to buy the most junk we truly do not need
For national security all necessary items should be manufactured in the United States..but are not for greed
China has us by the balls and they know it
Eagler
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: MiloMorai on May 09, 2022, 09:21:29 AM
Well you can't blame people and companies for looking out for their bottom dollar. China is basically the world's manufacturing center. Cheap labor. I mean that's just obvious I don't need to say that.
It might not always be that way. I remember about 10 years ago or so they were saying Africa was going to be the next manufacturing center and source of cheap labor. I'm not sure that'll ever happen.
The United States still manufactures a lot of stuff though. Some people will pay for higher quality and a stamp that says made in the USA on it. Or made in England or made in Canada or made in Germany. I know I do.
But when it comes to everyday items that really don't matter much, I don't want to spend top dollar. Like just basic household goods or t-shirts or whatever. I don't mind that China makes a lot of stuff.
China doesn't have much of an internal consumer market. That's what I'm thinking. I'm not sure that the workers there are being elevated into a middle class status. I know there's a lot of rich people in China but there are way more poor people. I'm not sure if they will ever have their own consumer base that could support their manufacturing if it weren't for the outside world buying all of China stuff.
There right there!
The hypocrisy in a nutshell
The poor of the US could have jobs working for Apple but no!
You cannot blame companies :rofl
You people never except responsibilty
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: RotBaron on May 10, 2022, 02:31:34 AM
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 10, 2022, 08:00:53 AM
I want to apologize to you, Zack. I cannot follow your disjointed, moronic thought patterns. It's as if random phrases fly in and out of your skull like butterflies. It must be torture inside that mind. lol.
One thing great about the UK is that you get to bow to your Queen. Give her your tribute and sit quietly, Zack, or she may toss you into the towers.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 10, 2022, 08:02:22 AM
One thing that I love about the United States is that people like Zack go crazy thinking about us and how great of a country we have.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: zack1234 on May 10, 2022, 08:10:13 AM
I am a Queen at the week end.
I live my life in the open :rofl
Are you responsible for any of the problems in the world?
Your answer will always no :rofl
You people are incapable of excepting any responsibility :rofl
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: -gg- on May 10, 2022, 08:43:33 AM
The problems of the world will always exists. The world is run by force and power and it's been that way since the beginning of time.
I'm just a little spec of dust in this world. The best I can do is to be thankful for what I have and to be happy. I try to be kind to others. That's pretty much what good people do.
Evil people plot and steal. They take. These are the people who rule our world.
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: zack1234 on May 10, 2022, 08:56:56 AM
Gibberish
I am king of Uganda
Title: Re: Well done
Post by: Oldman731 on May 10, 2022, 08:58:47 AM