General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: RotBaron on June 02, 2022, 05:12:08 AM
Title: Wut?
Post by: RotBaron on June 02, 2022, 05:12:08 AM
Interpreter please:
“To manage the impact of climate change, becoming more extreme, more extreme weather and growing migration flows. In addition, you see what’s happening in the Arctic. Arctic’s gonna change drastically and become a place that is gonna also potentially generate potential conflict in terms of dominating in the Arctic as it melts.”
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: decoy on June 02, 2022, 07:38:28 AM
It means that polar bears are cute until you get close to them.
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Post by: Eagler on June 02, 2022, 08:09:48 AM
As soon as we are bicycling everywhere and eating grass the penguins will be saved....
Eagler
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Post by: Meatwad on June 02, 2022, 08:50:59 AM
Dementia is a terrible ailment
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Post by: Shuffler on June 02, 2022, 08:52:18 AM
Ice road truckers have been working more because the frozen lakes stay frozen longer. I just saw this on a video update of the drivers from ice road truckers.
Yup climate has always changed.
Those poor folks buying electric cars causing more co2 than gas cars probably.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: decoy on June 02, 2022, 10:30:47 AM
But all green plants need CO2 to survive. Move along, to see here...
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Post by: Arlo on June 02, 2022, 10:32:36 AM
But all green plants need CO2 to survive. Move along, to see here...
That and lack of deforestation.
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Post by: Bizman on June 02, 2022, 10:43:17 AM
I wonder where that nugget the OP quoted came from.
Sounds like the noise made by a constantly talking person who sounds wise but doesn't actually say anything. There's a word for those but I can't remember it right now... Dement?
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 02, 2022, 10:48:38 AM
I wonder where that nugget the OP quoted came from.
Sounds like the noise made by a constantly talking person who sounds wise but doesn't actually say anything. There's a word for those but I can't remember it right now... Dement?
In the position of POTUS you can't say anything too accurate. Two different interpretations is a minimum for every comment.
Agreed. However, there is quite a bit of 'blowback tit for tat' being exercised by a relatively small but loud segment who were/are sensitive over criticism of the previous.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: morfiend on June 02, 2022, 11:17:02 AM
Huge amounts of frozen methane gas is trapped in the permafrost,it’s being released as the temps rise and the permafrost melts. It’s not just Co2 that’s the problem,the term is greenhouse gases not gas.
They are considering calling polar bears marine mammals because they are spending more time in the water than on land or ice. Up in Churchill the bears are being land locked for up to 6 months,used to be a 3 month stay until the sea ice could support them. They are staving during this time as they can’t feed except for from human garbage. They are considered the most southerly population of polar bears, will be a real shame when they are gone.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Eagler on June 02, 2022, 11:18:29 AM
Agreed. However, there is quite a bit of 'blowback tit for tat' being exercised by a relatively small but loud segment who were/are sensitive over criticism of the previous.
Bs
Both deserve criticism..
Difference being the one is gone and we are stuck with this dementia patient now...
So you think your posts are sneaky enough not to warrant a lock?
Lol lock away!!!
Eagler
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 02, 2022, 11:28:58 AM
Huge amounts of frozen methane gas is trapped in the permafrost,it’s being released as the temps rise and the permafrost melts. It’s not just Co2 that’s the problem,the term is greenhouse gases not gas.
They are considering calling polar bears marine mammals because they are spending more time in the water than on land or ice. Up in Churchill the bears are being land locked for up to 6 months,used to be a 3 month stay until the sea ice could support them. They are staving during this time as they can’t feed except for from human garbage. They are considered the most southerly population of polar bears, will be a real shame when they are gone.
It also means the oceans will get warmer. The heating of ocean water creates hurricanes.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: nopoop on June 02, 2022, 12:16:03 PM
You know that Algore has the stone tablets from the mount...
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 02, 2022, 12:39:38 PM
Huge amounts of frozen methane gas is trapped in the permafrost,it’s being released as the temps rise and the permafrost melts. It’s not just Co2 that’s the problem,the term is greenhouse gases not gas.
They are considering calling polar bears marine mammals because they are spending more time in the water than on land or ice. Up in Churchill the bears are being land locked for up to 6 months,used to be a 3 month stay until the sea ice could support them. They are staving during this time as they can’t feed except for from human garbage. They are considered the most southerly population of polar bears, will be a real shame when they are gone.
I'll start with greenhouse gases. The three biggies are CO2, Water vapor - H2O, and Methane - HC4. It's true, in a sealed environment the quantities of these gases will remain constant. In a free atmosphere, one that contains Ozone, a single Oxygen atom, a free radical, if you will, then the Methane and the Ozone react and break down to water vapor and carbon dioxide. People talk about how rain forests process carbon dioxide, but they never mention that rain forests produce large amounts of methane, which is release when animal or vegetable matter rots.
As for the polar bears, their Latin name is Ursus Maritimus, the sea bear. It's the largest extant bear species and the largest extant land carnivore. I'm not too worried about the polar bears. They just make a 'oh how sad' picture when the iceberg they've been floating begins to break up.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Busher on June 02, 2022, 04:48:52 PM
We just need a leader...it's been decades since the world has seen a real one
Eagler
As the late Douglas Adams (Author, Satirist and Humorist) wrote:
“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to."
or, those most capable of leading have little interest in seeking the position!
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: TheBug on June 02, 2022, 05:18:48 PM
I'll start with greenhouse gases. The three biggies are CO2, Water vapor - H2O, and Methane - HC4. It's true, in a sealed environment the quantities of these gases will remain constant. In a free atmosphere, one that contains Ozone, a single Oxygen atom, a free radical, if you will, then the Methane and the Ozone react and break down to water vapor and carbon dioxide. People talk about how rain forests process carbon dioxide, but they never mention that rain forests produce large amounts of methane, which is release when animal or vegetable matter rots.
As for the polar bears, their Latin name is Ursus Maritimus, the sea bear. It's the largest extant bear species and the largest extant land carnivore. I'm not too worried about the polar bears. They just make a 'oh how sad' picture when the iceberg they've been floating begins to break up.
There you have it Morf the wildlife biologist from Georgia says there’s nothing to worry about. How could he be wrong?
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: MiloMorai on June 02, 2022, 05:21:51 PM
There you have it Morf the wildlife biologist from Georgia says there’s nothing to worry about. How could he be wrong?
Animals are the canaries in the coal mine.
Title: Speaking of which
Post by: Arlo on June 02, 2022, 05:26:55 PM
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 02, 2022, 05:48:57 PM
I actually couldn't believe how many trees there were in Alabama. Place was like a damn rain forest from the air.
It's very hard to perceptionalize how big Antarctica is. BTW, the world use to be far more under water than it is now. Half of Montana was under water a million years ago. I find that fascinating.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: MiloMorai on June 02, 2022, 05:55:49 PM
I actually couldn't believe how many trees there were in Alabama. Place was like a damn rain forest from the air.
It's very hard to perceptionalize how big Antarctica is. BTW, the world use to be far more under water than it is now. Half of Montana was under water a million years ago. I find that fascinating.
The Gulf of Mexico extended up tp Montana.
When the ice from the last Ice Age melted, the sea level rose 400 feet.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 02, 2022, 06:26:24 PM
I actually couldn't believe how many trees there were in Alabama. Place was like a damn rain forest from the air.
It's very hard to perceptionalize how big Antarctica is. BTW, the world use to be far more under water than it is now. Half of Montana was under water a million years ago. I find that fascinating.
And boy did the human species thrive then. ;)
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: nrshida on June 03, 2022, 03:04:00 AM
It's in your back yard. Did you know that the Gulf Stream causes the sea level on the American coast of the Atlantic Ocean to be lower than on the European coast?
Also I've heard that the mass of the water compresses the ocean floor. Liquids like water don't compress, substances often do.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: morfiend on June 03, 2022, 05:59:01 AM
There you have it Morf the wildlife biologist from Georgia says there’s nothing to worry about. How could he be wrong?
He’s not wrong just mistaken…..it is a sea bear and methane does break down but neither of those things means squat.
You know like why do I need a snowblower when I only use it 3 or 4 times a year.,25 years ago I had to use it almost every day during winter! Now I’ll wait for a mechanical engineer to explain why I still need to keep my snowblower….
Did you hear the one about the happy snowman,he saw the snowblower coming down the street.
<S>
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: nrshida on June 03, 2022, 07:43:33 AM
It's in your back yard. Did you know that the Gulf Stream causes the sea level on the American coast of the Atlantic Ocean to be lower than on the European coast?
Also I've heard that the mass of the water compresses the ocean floor. Liquids like water don't compress, substances often do.
Yes I know, I was trying to wind-up Violator :rofl
The whole of post-Brexit Britain is steadily tilting up on end and will eventally go down like the Titanic while Boris Johnson mournfully plays Rocket Man by Elton John whilst sitting on the edge of John o' Groats as it slowly descends. Why Zack is so Grumpy. They won't let him ride his Lambretta in Europe because it's a two-stroke :old:
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: JimmyD3 on June 03, 2022, 08:42:50 AM
Climate Change, Ocean Front property in Arizona, Florida being submerged! You aint seen nothing yet! Wait till the Tribulation starts......... :bolt:
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Eagler on June 03, 2022, 10:00:58 AM
More concerned about out of control governments and its corrupt politicians than the weather...but that's me
Eagler
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 03, 2022, 11:18:58 AM
Russia Russia Russia. (Still confusing climate and weather?)
Cute Arlo, but no banana. While Climate change is normal and weather never stays the same, the tribulation WILL come and its effects on this earth and man kind will be like nothing before. There I will leave you to your own amusement. :bolt:
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 03, 2022, 02:12:51 PM
Cute Arlo, but no banana. While Climate change is normal and weather never stays the same, the tribulation WILL come and its effects on this earth and man kind will be like nothing before. There I will leave you to your own amusement. :bolt:
The tribulation is already here, man, and it's of our own making. As amusing as you may picture it, it's not, really. :frown:
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: decoy on June 03, 2022, 02:25:30 PM
Yeah. The earth is ~68% water. The human body is ~68% water. If the earth's population doubles, where does the water come from?
Another interesting tidbit is that the ouput of all the rivers in the world, on a yearly basis, is almost that of the amount of water contained in the polar ice caps. So why don't the seas rise 20 feet every year?
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 03, 2022, 02:28:26 PM
Another interesting tidbit is that the ouput of all the rivers in the world, on a yearly basis, is almost that of the amount of water contained in the polar ice caps. So why don't the seas rise 20 feet every year?
Is this a freshman level college environmental physics test?
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: decoy on June 03, 2022, 02:32:11 PM
So, according to your diagram, only 1% of the amount of water in the ocean is ice. Give or take. How can increasing the oceans' volumes by 1% raise the level by 20 feet?
I'm done, but I think you need a hobby Arlo.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 03, 2022, 02:36:01 PM
So, according to your diagram, only 1% of the amount of water in the ocean is ice. Give or take. How can increasing the oceans' volumes by 1% raise the level by 20 feet?
I'm done, but I think you need a hobby Arlo.
Hey, I was just addressing your question. I really thought you were testing us. :)
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: nrshida on June 03, 2022, 02:43:30 PM
The tribulation is already here, man, and it's of our own making. As amusing as you may picture it, it's not, really. :frown:
Trust me Arlo, it has not started yet! The rapture comes first, then the tribulation will come. However the timeline between the rapture and the start of the tribulation is unknown, it maybe 1 day or 50 years, the scriptures don't tell us. My grandparents and my parents hoped to see the rapture, thinking the human race couldn't get any more wicked. Well they were wrong on that account, I'm not sure I'll live to see the rapture either. Any time I think the human race can't get anymore corrupt/wicked, it proves me wrong.
One thing for sure though, Israel is back in it's home land, as was prophesied by scripture. A per-requiste for the Lords return. Every day is another day closer to the rapture. Do you KNOW where you will go?? Hope to see you there. :pray
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: TheBug on June 04, 2022, 11:14:45 AM
You’re f ‘ing nuts.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Eagler on June 04, 2022, 11:39:43 AM
From man invented climate change to man invented rapture - both for mainly political and financial gains IMO .. this thread has come full circle
:cheers:
Eagler
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 04, 2022, 11:40:33 AM
Trust me Arlo, it has not started yet! The rapture comes first, then the tribulation will come. However the timeline between the rapture and the start of the tribulation is unknown, it maybe 1 day or 50 years, the scriptures don't tell us.
From man invented climate change to man invented rapture -
From 'climate change is weather and natural' to 'man invented climate change' ... just ramble on. :old:
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Eagler on June 04, 2022, 01:01:54 PM
Speaking of the concern for not the definition of
Eagler
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: zack1234 on June 04, 2022, 01:11:18 PM
Bill Gates getting rid of his sports cars?
Bezo recently bought a mansion on a Hawaiian beach.
More trees in the UK than there was 50 years again.
More trees in China than there was 30 years ago
The temperature in the UK dropped by 2 degrees in 1350 …FACT
You people
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: morfiend on June 04, 2022, 01:24:11 PM
Zack tell us about that little white moth that had to change it’s colour from white to a dark mottled. IIRC this happened just after the start of the industrial revolution.
Gates kept his sports cars cause he’s trying to compete with Nick Mason.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: LNG15 on June 04, 2022, 02:40:55 PM
I also personally think Zach's ancestors must have been in on the Darien Plan as well, for being from Northwest England.
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Post by: RotBaron on June 04, 2022, 06:15:58 PM
Interesting read, odd that all the reference material is late 20th century. Best reference I have found is "Revelations" by Clarence Larkin, 1919. He states the Pre-Tribulation Rapture and uses scripture in Revelations to support his position. This is my belief also.
As to being nuts, time will tell. So far everything is falling to place. For those that reject Christ and his salvation, hell is their destination.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: nrshida on June 05, 2022, 01:31:45 AM
A bumblebee is a fish under California law, a California court said in a ruling this week.
And thus, the bumblebee should be protected by the state’s endangered species ordinances, court documents show.
Can not define woman anymore and now fish. That is what’s nuts.
Lots of fish have the colloquial 'Bumblebee' prefix. Are you sure that's not what they meant? Should look after the bees, otherwise we'll go hungry. Very hungry.
Lots of fish have the colloquial 'Bumblebee' prefix. Are you sure that's not what they meant? Should look after the bees, otherwise we'll go hungry. Very hungry.
Nope, the court literally declared bumblebees (specifically) to be fish. That post is a snippet from article about it, i.e. not my words.
Seems what they did was bypass the legislative process to get the bee on the endangered species list in CA. Sounds fine, but in CA almost always have to look at the motive behind the government doing anything and also look where $ is going to/coming from/being diverted from…
Idk, maybe they will now declare bumblebees to be women there.
Look into their sea lion problem if you’re bored sometime.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Eagler on June 05, 2022, 06:10:10 AM
As to being nuts, time will tell. So far everything is falling to place. For those that reject Christ and his salvation, hell is their destination.
To each their own but the entire rapture left behind series of disappearing good guys with only the truly evil left behind was invented by a preacher called Darby back in the 1830's.
My guess was to increase the weekly take in the donation boxes on Sunday...
Ever give it the thought that we are in our own hell now determined by our past actions and the karma generated by those actions?
✌️
Eagler
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Citabria on June 05, 2022, 06:35:34 AM
All religions by their own admission were written by man.
All religions claim that “their man” was a divinely inspired prophet.
All religions but one promise rewards only after death.
The one religion that promises nonexistence after death happens to be the highest earning group with almost all employed members earning over six figure salaries.
Said members of this religious sect went on to weaponize spirituality and turn it into the most destructive dogmatic religions the world has ever seen from Islam to Christianity to Climatology.
No one seems to be able to accept the obvious truth that the wonderous magical entity or being that created this clockwork perfect world and everything in it deliberately or accidentally told nobody anything about the how, who or why and made us to be easily deceived and manipulated if we allow ourselves to be by other humans claiming to have the answers from the makers.
Caveat Emptor.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: nrshida on June 05, 2022, 12:32:43 PM
Seems what they did was bypass the legislative process to get the bee on the endangered species list in CA. Sounds fine, but in CA almost always have to look at the motive behind the government doing anything and also look where $ is going to/coming from/being diverted from…
Bumblebees before fishies! :banana:
Without bees we'd be proper effed. Wasps, they can do one. Don't even make jam. :old:
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: MiloMorai on June 05, 2022, 01:47:50 PM
It all started in a 2019 lawsuit between large agricultural groups in the state — such as almond and citrus growers — and the California Fish and Game Commission.
The lawsuit specifically set out to determine whether the commission exceeded its authority when it designated four bumble bee species as endangered species – the Crotch bumble bee, the Franklin bumble bee, the Suckley cuckoo bumble bee and the Western bumble bee – calling them invertebrates, therefore falling under CESA’s definition of fish.
In years past, fish were defined as “wild fish, mollusks or crustaceans, including any part, spawn or ova thereof.” But in 2015, the legislature modified the definition to read “ ‘[f]ish’ means a wild fish, mollusk, crustacean, invertebrate, amphibian or part, spawn, or ovum of any of those animals.”
In the ruling, the courts gave the commission the legal authority to list invertebrate species as endangered, even if they are not aquatic animals.
“We next consider whether the commission’s authority is limited to listing only aquatic invertebrates,” the ruling stated. “We conclude the answer is, “no.” Although the term fish is colloquially and commonly understood to refer to aquatic species, the term of art employed by the Legislature in the definition of fish in section 45 is not so limited.”
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: RotBaron on June 05, 2022, 07:00:14 PM
Read 5 different articles on when this dispute began, and you’ll find 5 different opinions and even to the point of which organizations it began with:
‘The dispute began in 2018, when the Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation, the Center for Food Safety, and Defenders of Wildlife successfully petitioned the state of California to consider protecting four species of imperiled native bumble bees (including the delightfully named Suckley's cuckoo bumble bee) under the state’s Endangered Species Act.’
‘One wrinkle though: California’s endangered species law defines candidates for protection as “bird, mammal, fish, amphibian, reptile or plant.” The statute doesn’t say anything about insects.’
^ Seems it would have been easier and simple just to list insects or invertebrates as candidates for protection…But that’s not how anything is done in California anymore.
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: RotBaron on June 05, 2022, 07:07:19 PM
Zack tell us about that little white moth that had to change it’s colour from white to a dark mottled. IIRC this happened just after the start of the industrial revolution.
Gates kept his sports cars cause he’s trying to compete with Nick Mason.
Yes
Said moth changed colour during the industrial revolution to protect itself from predators.
This fact I knew in 1979 when Soylent green was our staple diet.
People were going to starve in 1999 but now they are dying from gluttony…fact
Polar bears favourite food is people…fact
Nature has and is trying to do us in at every opportunity.fact
Only thing this environmental hysteria is explaining is the stupidity of the stateless gender less lives of the Westerner.
If you bend the knee it will save the moths
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: nrshida on June 06, 2022, 02:31:58 AM
Oh I think I understand. That seems a bit needlessly complex. Perhaps fighting about it from a faction-vs-faction way is less wise than taking a holistic view. :cheers:
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: zack1234 on June 06, 2022, 07:58:02 AM
My bum hole does not need holistic attention :old:
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: Arlo on June 06, 2022, 08:07:59 AM
Said moth changed colour during the industrial revolution to protect itself from predators.
Polar bears favourite food is people…fact
If you bend the knee it will save the moths
While a polar bear might eat a human it’s hardly it’s favourite food! They say it tastes too much like pork. They much prefer seal, walrus and whale…oh no kill the bears to save the whales. They have been seen actively hunting belugas and pretty much consider anything that moves as food and even some things that don’t move.
Polar bear have recently started to mate with grizzlies,guess they are spending too much time on land and are getting confused.
So if I bend a knee will I save a bear??? Asking for a friend as we both live in the wilderness of Ontario.
<S>
Title: Re: Wut?
Post by: decoy on June 07, 2022, 07:38:44 AM
I didn't know there was civilization in Ontario. Wow.
I apologize, I didn't even try to resist that. You're welcome to make Georgia rednecks jokes.
Who said civilization???? I live in the wilderness in Ontario,just finished putting the summer wheels on the dogsled,not sure why as summer only lasts 72 hours!. Actually we only have 2 seasons, winter and black fly/mosquito which some insist on calling summer.
Don’t believe the hype,there’s nothing to see here and it’s not worth the effort to come here. Unless you want to feed the bears,they’re always hungry.