It's the 4th time I've heard about this issue in the last 6 months.
When I had the problem I was getting 2mb download speed. I got it faster when BigR uploaded it to his sever, 5 min.
This seriously needs attention.
Dale has been aware of this issue since at least 2021. I had conversation with him in regards to this over the phone. It's now 2025...
Yes Animl, it needs serious attention. Yall dont understand why I've got so bitter at times over ENY and in-game issues. It's been almost 4 years since I inquired about this and no fix.
I have wanted to see this game grow and tried to help in many ways. Status quo works against us in this regard. Pisses me tf off that I was ignorant to think this game could have a resurgence.
Something like this DOES deter people away and he has known for years :bhead
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Shuffler on March 21, 2025, 04:18:30 PM
I am trying to install aces high into a new msi gaming laptop on a 500mb high speed connection...
The current download speed for the stdshapes.res file can do nothing but chase potential customers away..
I was getting less than 1meg download speed taking about 50 minutes for this critical file to download..
Not sure who would not think this is an issue with the game and bail without sticking around for the download to complete..
Not sure why the speed is so dang slow but it should not be so painful to install the game imo
A big thanks to Animl-AW for his tips page!!
Eagler
Reserve your lap top for dancers.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Max on March 21, 2025, 04:27:30 PM
The original AHI download was something ridiculously small....under 80 M if I recall correctly. I know, that was then; this is now but I just thought I'd throw it out there.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 21, 2025, 04:57:37 PM
you guys have something wrong. I just downloaded the stdshapes.res in a minute and 16 seconds.
You're in TX and prolly on a different trunk. Not sure anyone is pinging that server IP to see the routing issues from where they are. I can go to another site and get flaming download speeds.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Spikes on March 21, 2025, 07:31:05 PM
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 21, 2025, 10:06:31 PM
I installed it twice. Took less than 2 minutes both times. No server issue for me.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 21, 2025, 10:12:14 PM
Third time. Nothing wrong here.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 21, 2025, 10:31:18 PM
I uninstalled of course before reinstalling but in case the file was cached somewhere I tried it on a machine on which it has never been installed. Surprisingly it took longer, but only 5 mins.
And no, my gateway does not cache anything.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Spikes on March 21, 2025, 10:56:52 PM
I thought you work in IT, just because it's not a problem for you doesn't mean it isn't a problem for other people. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Lazerr on March 21, 2025, 11:34:58 PM
Curious how long it takes for you to download a new skin batch eagler.. do you download in game or from the bbs?
My system is older, but I remember the download taking awhile back when it was new.
In game skins downloading takes hours now.. not sure if they are related
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: haggerty on March 21, 2025, 11:35:36 PM
I get .25 mbps download speed to Hitech stuff, even as an IT guy it was extremely frustrating getting the game going through initial download freezes and download speeds. I seem to have some sort of hybrid install now. I was using steam and tried to go with the website version, it did the initial 300mb install before it started trying to download the rest (not realizing it was going to my steam folder instead of a new one)...I gave up on the 2gb, but now have directx9 launcher that I can use with the steam version, no more stutter.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Eagler on March 22, 2025, 06:57:01 AM
Curious how long it takes for you to download a new skin batch eagler.. do you download in game or from the bbs?
My system is older, but I remember the download taking awhile back when it was new.
In game skins downloading takes hours now.. not sure if they are related
Was going to mention that next Lazer..
The three large files for skins from the bbs each does the same down throttling as the downloads begin
Maybe that's the issue, it's not seen when tested inside Texas but is ridiculously slow for others..I wouldn't stick around for them to complete if I didn't love the game as I do..
Eagler
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 22, 2025, 07:57:49 AM
I thought you work in IT, just because it's not a problem for you doesn't mean it isn't a problem for other people. :rolleyes:
I thought you knew how to read. I didn't say it wasn't a problem, I said something is wrong on your end.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Eagler on March 22, 2025, 08:43:09 AM
I am in west central Florida on spectrum broadband and get amazing speeds on most other downloads..
What ah server holds these large files?
I can run pingplotter and see what it looks like
Eagler
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: SNO on March 22, 2025, 10:33:31 AM
The full skins download took 1 hour for Me, maps start at 50 mps then throttle to .25 mps. If you keep re starting the maps same thing. I’m on Comcast in MI with down speeds tested at 796 mps off speakeasy.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Spikes on March 22, 2025, 10:45:45 AM
I thought you knew how to read. I didn't say it wasn't a problem, I said something is wrong on your end.
My end? I'm not the only one with the issue, plenty of people in here have the same issue with plenty good connections, but it's our problem? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 22, 2025, 11:21:12 AM
I provided facts videoed. Isolating a problem requires facts. What have you provided?
If you were paying attention back a few months ago when HTC switched services at/with Frontier you might recall that folks having trouble were also using Frontier. I was among those. I use Frontier and have no problem downloading from a server also using Frontier. Obviously your mileage varies.
Be careful not to roll those eyes out of your head.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: guncrasher on March 22, 2025, 03:01:30 PM
try to download world of tanks, it's a hit or miss on the download.
semp
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on March 22, 2025, 05:24:23 PM
Downloading Bob scenario terrain at 0.087mb This is totally unacceptable, but not necessarily HTC issue, I don't knowingly have the DL ip to ping
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on March 22, 2025, 05:27:47 PM
I provided facts videoed. Isolating a problem requires facts. What have you provided?
If you were paying attention back a few months ago when HTC switched services at/with Frontier you might recall that folks having trouble were also using Frontier. I was among those. I use Frontier and have no problem downloading from a server also using Frontier. Obviously your mileage varies.
Be careful not to roll those eyes out of your head.
It is not a personal system issue, period. It's somewhere between, there are several trunk systems we go through to get to TX. You're smart enough to understand that. >AGAIN< I can go to another page and DL gigabytes in minutes. SO, it's not our systems. Doesn't mean its HTC issue.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: guncrasher on March 22, 2025, 05:34:59 PM
It is not a personal system issue, period. It's somewhere between, there are several trunk systems we go through to get to TX. You're smart enough to understand that. >AGAIN< I can go to another page and DL gigabytes in minutes. SO, it's not our systems. Doesn't mean its HTC issue.
So, what ARE you saying? Exactly?
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on March 22, 2025, 05:42:40 PM
No play on words.
No time for cat and mouse
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 22, 2025, 05:45:27 PM
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 22, 2025, 05:47:22 PM
Maybe someone should post a video of a slow download? Show ping plotter to the source. I showed the server is capable of timely providing that file. I can't show it being slow.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Eagler on March 23, 2025, 06:56:06 AM
Maybe someone should post a video of a slow download? Show ping plotter to the source. I showed the server is capable of timely providing that file. I can't show it being slow.
What is the server to ping?
My AH downloads start out OK but quickly throttle down to crappy dial up speeds...
My guess the bandwidth is in the game with these files not having a priority to download that they should
Eagler
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2025, 10:17:50 AM
I uninstalled and reinstalled in just over 1 min including the download of the stdshapes.res. I watched wireshark and the IP it shows is 47.190.119.209. You might confirm you are getting it from the same. Wireshark is free. If that's a top secret IP delete my post.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2025, 10:21:11 AM
I ran a tracert and it stayed inside Frontier.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on March 23, 2025, 10:35:16 AM
You’re TX. The server is in TX Give me the IP and let me ping trace route from here, it will not be the same.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2025, 10:39:53 AM
I posted the IP. Of course your route won't be the same. That's the point of running tracert and ping plotter.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on March 23, 2025, 10:48:03 AM
I posted the IP. Of course your route won't be the same. That's the point of running tracert and ping plotter.
Cloudfare Speed Test from my tech page on my system/connection Download Speed: 444Mbps Upload Speed: 23.4Mbps
Downloading BoB Terrain last night: 0.087mbps
Tracing route from my system to dlrobin.hitechcreations.com [47.190.119.209] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.0.0.1 2 12 ms 11 ms 15 ms ****** 3 14 ms 16 ms 13 ms po-303-1270-rur102.griffith.in.chicago.comcast.net [96.216.26.161] 4 21 ms 10 ms 14 ms po-2-rur101.griffith.in.chicago.comcast.net [162.151.145.65] 5 12 ms 12 ms 10 ms po-100-xar01.griffith.in.chicago.comcast.net [69.139.202.169] 6 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms be-17-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.85.177.237] 7 14 ms 20 ms 16 ms 7922-3356-chi.sp.lumen.tech [4.68.110.122] 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 35 ms 39 ms 32 ms 4.15.44.126 10 36 ms 36 ms 34 ms ae7---0.scr05.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net [45.52.201.120] 11 38 ms 37 ms 35 ms ae0---0.ber01.irng.tx.frontiernet.net [74.40.10.209] 12 36 ms 38 ms 35 ms ae101--100.fdr03.kllr.tx.frontiernet.net [184.19.247.229] 13 36 ms 39 ms 37 ms dlrobin.hitechcreations.com [47.190.119.209]
It dumps as soon as I get into the Dallas trunk, which isn't what I call horrible, but it's twice as slow.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on March 23, 2025, 11:13:08 AM
<shrug>
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Bizman on March 23, 2025, 12:07:11 PM
Back in the day the stdshapes.res could take quite a long time and many attempts. So I removed said file from the game folder, downloaded and reinstalled the game. That took about two minutes. Then I tried to start the game. The splash screen splashed and disappeared. Tried it a few times, then rebooted my system. After that the game started to download the stdshapes.res file. At the start it said it'd take half an hour but the download speed kept increasing all the time up to about 5.5 Mbps so finally it was over in mere six minutes after which the game started normally.
So starting from downloading the game it took me almost 12 minutes to get into the Tower including a reboot.
Back in the day the stdshapes.res could take quite a long time and many attempts. So I removed said file from the game folder, downloaded and reinstalled the game. That took about two minutes. Then I tried to start the game. The splash screen splashed and disappeared. Tried it a few times, then rebooted my system. After that the game started to download the stdshapes.res file. At the start it said it'd take half an hour but the download speed kept increasing all the time up to about 5.5 Mbps so finally it was over in mere six minutes after which the game started normally.
So starting from downloading the game it took me almost 12 minutes to get into the Tower including a reboot.
I think its going to come down to where ya live and what routes you pass through.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2025, 03:37:05 PM
How to:
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2025, 04:52:55 PM
I install AH a lot on different machines (in numerous places in Tennessee, not just my own house or my provider) and sometimes in different states. I am IT literate.
All the times I do it (including just yesterday in California), it takes an hour or something ridiculous to get stdshap.res.
It's not people who are installing the game doing something wrong. There is about nothing you can do wrong with this. You start the game, and it does the getting of stdshape.res. About zero percent of people do anything weird with their routers, etc. -- they don't even know how to do that. They are standard Internet from standard providers.
These are people who have no problem downloading 500 gb files from various other places through their browsers.
And, yes, it is a deterrent for the game. These folks are doing it because I am personally recruiting them to play in scenarios. I walk them through installation (or if they are local, install for them).
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2025, 05:20:56 PM
It's not the server or it's connection as I have shown. Being slow I mean. As I mentioned, it is likely Frontier throttling outside connections to their network. Maybe just to this particular site. Do some testing, correlate the data among users, provide the evidence to hitech and maybe he can get Frontier to work the issue. Or don't. I've helped all I'm willing.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Brooke on March 24, 2025, 12:02:07 AM
Franklin TN 4x same site, Franklin TN Franklin TN LA area, California Detroit suburbs, Michigan Detroit suburbs, Michigan Redmond WA
Every one one of those 10 installations took an hour-ish to download, including the one from 2 days ago in California.
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Or don't.
Not a burning enough issue for me to do such work.
Like you said, maybe a thing that doesn't affect local Texas, maybe doesn't affect this or that network. But at 7 different sites, 10 different computers, 4 different states, I always see it take an hour-ish.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Bizman on March 24, 2025, 02:15:20 AM
I think its going to come down to where ya live and what routes you pass through.
Yepp, got it a month ago, 300 Mbps. The ping went down to 150 from the 180 I had with the 100 Mbps 4G mobile broadband. And before that with the 24 Mbps ADSL the ping was around 200. Those are the ones I've seen the stdshap.res being downloaded. With the slowest one it required a couple of tries and took about 20 minutes IIRC.
The Level3 hop under the Atlantic ocean has always bumped the ping time up - natural due to distance - and the first two over there have always shown quite a high percentage of packet loss.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Kermit de frog on March 24, 2025, 08:59:56 AM
I did fresh install on new Win11 PC, and the standard shape file was a slow download. I eventually walked away and I think it completed in 20 min. The entire install took about an hour.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Brooke on March 24, 2025, 12:40:02 PM
Just to be clear, for me, when I loosely say "an hour-ish", I should more precisely say "30-60 minutes".
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: icepac on March 24, 2025, 12:52:31 PM
How often does that file change?
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on March 24, 2025, 01:04:55 PM
It's not the server or it's connection as I have shown. Being slow I mean. As I mentioned, it is likely Frontier throttling outside connections to their network. Maybe just to this particular site. Do some testing, correlate the data among users, provide the evidence to hitech and maybe he can get Frontier to work the issue. Or don't. I've helped all I'm willing.
Your first response was it was on our end/problem. We just clarified that.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 24, 2025, 01:17:13 PM
Your first response was it was on our end/problem. We just clarified that.
Indeed. It is on your end.
It's not the server. Not the server's immediate connection to the Internet. It's not on my end. I told you what it was. Do nothing except complain here and see if it changes.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on March 24, 2025, 05:09:20 PM
It's not the server. Not the server's immediate connection to the Internet. It's not on my end. I told you what it was. Do nothing except complain here and see if it changes.
DUDE!. I'm not the only one who pointed out the flaw in you saying it's on our end. "Your end" implies it's our computer and connection. We all proved it's NOT......trunks between are not our end, you simply changed your wording after the fact. You are appearing to have the knowledge of a typical gamer....not an IT specialist, because they just showed you up. Every convo with you is some weird twilight zone merry go round with words.
Go get a check up
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 24, 2025, 05:17:10 PM
You never have a thought of your own animl. Go away.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on March 24, 2025, 05:19:26 PM
Go start some more threads complaining about the game and threatening quit. You do that more than anyone else here.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on March 24, 2025, 05:46:31 PM
You never have a thought of your own animl. Go away.
I could think circles around you spinning on one ear. Don't ever lecture me on being out of place, You're out of place, this IS my place, until I deem it's not.. Why don't you go swindle people into buying unsupported planes in another game board. You do not have a fan club here. I may not either, but at least I contribute to something you walked away from a long time ago. At lleast I'm about improvement over ripping it down as an outsider.
All your proof showed was it wasn't on YOUR end, it wasn't your connection. Had you done a simple tracert, you would have had a better answer. Had I known the IP I would have put that tracert in my first reply.
You're like an ex-GF who won't go away. Always waiting for something to prance on and suggest we are stupid AH infidels and you're superior because of pretty planes. Backseat driver. Your former player tribe lives in their own head.
That said, the vultures hit my thread exactly as predicted, baseless lies and insults. Nothing new from YOUR tribe of former players. PC warriors who hide behind oak tree 200 yrds away and when someone turns on you you run screaming for mommy playing victims. The post wasn't even about the person who layed his own head on the chopping block and lied of it's context as if I were talking about him. But he did lie to make me look bad, and that deserves what I decide.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: guncrasher on March 24, 2025, 09:39:19 PM
like i said before try downloading world of tanks. compare it to ah.
semp
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Brooke on March 25, 2025, 12:20:42 AM
I haven't noticed it change that often. When it does, it can create havoc for events, though, as folks show up to a scenario expecting to pop into the arena, and it starts downloading something that takes a long time.
Mostly, it's a hassle when installing fresh for a new player.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Bizman on March 25, 2025, 01:54:01 AM
I haven't noticed it change that often. When it does, it can create havoc for events, though, as folks show up to a scenario expecting to pop into the arena, and it starts downloading something that takes a long time.
I don't recall it redownloading ever.
Speaking about events, I can tell for sure that many players I know have removed AH from their computers and redownload it for the event. But they don't necessarily do a test run. As my test shows at least my computer required a reboot after reinstalling the game. And that's something people don't seem to do too often these days.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: SNO on March 25, 2025, 07:44:18 AM
Rock, paper, scissors or AkIron, Animl, Draw? :joystick:
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Brooke on March 25, 2025, 12:21:24 PM
yep, i think you are right, and i was mistaken about that.
I am probably just thinking about map file changes, not that stshape file.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: The Fugitive on March 25, 2025, 01:08:36 PM
I dont know for sure, but thinking logically the stdshapes file is all the standard shapes for the game. This would include all of the plane shapes, the vehicles shapes, boat/ship shapes, building shapes, maybe some of the terrain shapes as well. Anything and everything that the game adds a skin to before displaying it in the game. That is why it is such a large file. It is also a "one and done" file unless HTC adds or edits shapes, then we would all be downloading a new file.
My stdshapes file is dated 2020 for the date it was "last modified" Did we get a change then or did I do a fresh DL then, dont know. I do know some folks have a very hard time getting this file downloaded, and then installed and has been the cause of a number of posts in the Help Threads. Maybe its due to throttling by some providers, maybe its due to some people having a crap modem thats on its way out, I dont know. I think an easy fix would be to add a text box for the down load sayin "it could take an hour to download this file due to many factors. Please be patient" add with it a timed scrolling bar. If people "see" the bar growing they will "know" its working and may be a bit more patient. A bigger fix might be to break down the file into 6-8 smaller files which as they download would "look" like things are working.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: xanax on March 25, 2025, 01:47:46 PM
I think an easy fix would be to add a text box for the down load sayin "it could take an hour to download this file due to many factors. Please be patient" add with it a timed scrolling bar. If people "see" the bar growing they will "know" its working and may be a bit more patient. A bigger fix might be to break down the file into 6-8 smaller files which as they download would "look" like things are working.
That'd be great, Fugi.
My neighbor, a college buddy in Pocatello, Idaho and a nephew had issues getting this file. I did a fresh reinstall about a month ago and it took forever for me as well. Maybe the file can be hosted somewhere else and folks could access it there? I remember putting it in a shareable folder in a dropbox account I share for a couple of folks here a while back but I don't remember if they ended up using it. It's here if anyone needs it or knows anyone who could use it:
This file along with the front page, the storefront if you will, sure seem detrimental in the promotion of the game and frankly, make it look like it went nipples up a couple years ago. Maybe the link above could be put on a reasonably updated front page along with instructions what to do with the file once downloaded? I don't know, just spitballing in hopes to show life support is still being given and there are still people in there enjoying the sim.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: CptTrips on March 25, 2025, 02:16:43 PM
My neighbor, a college buddy in Pocatello, Idaho and a nephew had issues getting this file. I did a fresh reinstall about a month ago and it took forever for me as well. Maybe the file can be hosted somewhere else and folks could access it there? I remember putting it in a shareable folder in a dropbox account I share for a couple of folks here a while back but I don't remember if they ended up using it. It's here if anyone needs it or knows anyone who could use it:
This file along with the front page, the storefront if you will, sure seem detrimental in the promotion of the game and frankly, make it look like it went nipples up a couple years ago. Maybe the link above could be put on a reasonably updated front page along with instructions what to do with the file once downloaded? I don't know, just spitballing in hopes to show life support is still being given and there are still people in there enjoying the sim.
It it's taking prospective customers an hour to download the trial for this game, that is a big problem.
BTW, if you change the end of your link to "dl=1" it should just start and auto download when clicked.
:salute
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: xanax on March 25, 2025, 03:24:33 PM
It it's taking prospective customers an hour to download the trial for this game, that is a big problem.
BTW, if you change the end of your link to "dl=1" it should just start and auto download when clicked.
:salute
Boom! done and yup. Thanks
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Brooke on April 21, 2025, 09:04:38 PM
Installing right now on a new machine, and stdshape.res took only about 5 minutes to download!
Woot! :aok
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: captain1ma on April 22, 2025, 06:48:29 AM
so i download a trial game on my XBox and it takes 15 or 20 minutes. i just go on to something else until its done. problem solved and it doesnt scare me off. sheesh people grow up!
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Lazerr on April 22, 2025, 08:44:50 AM
so i download a trial game on my XBox and it takes 15 or 20 minutes. i just go on to something else until its done. problem solved and it doesnt scare me off. sheesh people grow up!
There was a legitimate problem with something relating to downloading game content. People reporting the issue don't need to grow up. More like, thanks for brining the problem to attention. The childish reply in this conversation was yours.
Glad to hear the issue wasn't present for your latest download Brooke. Hopefully that holds true for other folks downloading the game in the future
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: captain1ma on April 22, 2025, 08:58:22 AM
when i first started this game, it took over an hour to download. its all based on internet speed and traffic. whats good for one, isnt always good for all, and you just have to deal with it. as i did!
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on April 22, 2025, 09:00:02 AM
There are some variables why it works for some and not others. It could also have, hopefully been fixed. This was not a problem for everyone. It was for me DLing at .87 mb rate.
With todays gamers demanding instant gratification it could in fact be a deterrent for the impatient.
I haven’t heard about it since these posts. It could have been fixed.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on April 22, 2025, 09:00:50 AM
so i download a trial game on my XBox and it takes 15 or 20 minutes. i just go on to something else until its done. problem solved and it doesnt scare me off. sheesh people grow up!
And how big was the game you downloaded? This is a 2gb file that even with a 100Mbps connection should take 2 minutes. Telling the few prospective new players to just grow up and deal with it seems like a poor way to get them to try our game.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on April 22, 2025, 09:54:27 AM
This MAY have to do more with Frontier, Routing and/or Location.
The fact it works for some and not others suggest its not a HTC issue. The fact that there was Frontier issues, depending on your location during the connection update makes their system suspect.
The affect of any problem or glitch on a user would suggest poor programming and maybe not worth it. Its not good for company credibility or reputation, certainly not good for attracting new users. Think about if they post the issue on other forums making the game lame.
We know how to fix it, a new user less likely. We’re not worried about us.
Meh! We all mean well.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: captain1ma on April 22, 2025, 11:12:03 AM
And how big was the game you downloaded? This is a 2gb file that even with a 100Mbps connection should take 2 minutes. Telling the few prospective new players to just grow up and deal with it seems like a poor way to get them to try our game.
it was 40-50 gigs, maybe more. some are bigger then that. i play destiny and that one is pretty big!
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: The Fugitive on April 22, 2025, 11:29:49 AM
it was 40-50 gigs, maybe more. some are bigger then that. i play destiny and that one is pretty big!
The difference is most of todays gamers are of the "I want it now!" generation and have no patience to wait for a download let alone one they are not expecting.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: AKIron on April 22, 2025, 11:33:14 AM
Likely Frontier as I said before. I gave my experience and was insulted. For the record going back to '94 I've probably taken and passed over 60 Microsoft, Cisco, Novell, etc certification tests including Novell Master CNE. MCSE, Cisco CCNA. Certifications mean little but I have the experience to go with it. Some of them.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: BigR on April 22, 2025, 05:41:41 PM
Dale should just spin up a VM on linode or similar service. All these problems would go away. Its not that much money at all especially since this game server can run on a potato. No more downtime during storms. No more bandwidth issues. Granted, our player base is moving in the wrong direction so he may not think its worth it.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Shuffler on April 23, 2025, 09:00:14 AM
Try flying MS2000. Just the updates will keep some of yall away I guess.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Randy1 on April 23, 2025, 02:12:25 PM
About a year ago I had switched from cable internet to fiber optics. Fiber had major problems getting to AH because of a problem in the hop in LA. It was not fixable according to the fiber co. I finally had to switch back to cable after hurricane Helene tour up the fiber optics. Never had a problem since.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Animl-AW on April 23, 2025, 02:33:40 PM
I may be outta the loop a touch, but high speed has its own issues. IMO DSL was great for gaming as less packet dropping than higher speed cable.
I’m on xfinity (puke) and evidently not conveniently located and had a issue. Soon as my ping hit TX it doubled ms and/or timeout.
I wonder if optic not being everywhere yet causes issues. Time of day and location seems to play a part.
Title: Re: stdshapes.res .. maybe a major reason subscription is low
Post by: Bizman on April 24, 2025, 01:39:35 AM
I wonder if optic not being everywhere yet causes issues. Time of day and location seems to play a part.
Sounds logical. Copper wire has its limitations regarding speed, load and distance whilst optic is quite immune against all three.
Time of day matters as some hops belong to servers who deliver Netflix. Back in the day Skuzzy told that Level3 is the bad boy as their capacity wasn't sufficient for both Netflix and various other actors like AH - obviously the former was given more bandwidth just because of money. Guess the Transatlantic connections will be clogged now for the funeral of Pope Franciscus.