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Title: Lawn care questions
Post by: Lazerr on May 13, 2025, 05:17:10 PM
Two questions.  What is the best herbicide to kill anything green and living?

Also,  what is the best weed and feed to use on a yard that is getting too much crabgrass and ground ivy?

Any other lawn and garden hacks?  The older I get, the more scrutiny I have on my property.

I live in the upper midwest.
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: AKIron on May 13, 2025, 05:26:07 PM
Agent Orange is an effective herbicide but not widely available. ;)
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Mister Fork on May 13, 2025, 05:29:48 PM
Two questions.  What is the best herbicide to kill anything green and living?

Also,  what is the best weed and feed to use on a yard that is getting too much crabgrass and ground ivy?

Any other lawn and garden hacks?  The older I get, the more scrutiny I have on my property.

I live in the upper midwest.
Burn it then Roundup.
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Meatwad on May 13, 2025, 05:31:00 PM
Depends. Are you wanting to kill weeds, grass, bushy/viney overgrowth? Broadleaf weeds?

Glyphosate will kill a lot but I had some stuff that it wouldnt touch. I had to buy a herbicide called Crossbow to kill it
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Lazerr on May 13, 2025, 05:33:46 PM
Burn it then Roundup.

Yeah i have a torch want I use in rock gardens, but looking for something that works well on brush and in mulch.

Plan B is to start over and put a better quality weed barrier down next spring or this fall.

By bigger issue I guess is my grass being overrun by not grass...
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Lazerr on May 13, 2025, 05:36:36 PM
Depends. Are you wanting to kill weeds, grass, bushy/viney overgrowth? Broadleaf weeds?

Glyphosate will kill a lot but I had some stuff that it wouldnt touch. I had to buy a herbicide called Crossbow to kill it

Any weed in a rock/much based garden is one issue.

Ivy/broadleaf weeds in the yard.  Definately looking for two different products as one is going to be too potent for my grass.
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Meatwad on May 13, 2025, 05:42:29 PM
If you have something like  FS or farm spraying company by where you live, you could pull some up and take it in there and show it to them. They can tell you what you need to kill it and if you specify that you dont want to touch the lawn grass they may have something or can mix it up for you on the spot. It might be a little more expensive then jugs of roundup but if they know their stuff they can steer you in the right direction.

There is an app I use on the phone called plantsnap that will let you take a picture of the plant leaf and will identify the plant for you (may take several attempts to get a correct match, and the app has annoying ads trying to sell you to upgrade) Then type in the plant name online and what to kill it with and you should get some results on what herbicide to use.

2-4-D is a broadleaf herbicide that shouldnt affect most lawn grass

My viney plant is called winter creeper, thats the stuff that no other herbicide would touch until I bought the crossbow herbicide. That stuff finally killed it
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: CptTrips on May 13, 2025, 05:44:54 PM
Two questions.  What is the best herbicide to kill anything green and living?

Also,  what is the best weed and feed to use on a yard that is getting too much crabgrass and ground ivy?

Any other lawn and garden hacks?  The older I get, the more scrutiny I have on my property.

I live in the upper midwest.

Yeah, Round-up Ground Clear will nuke an area. 


On the lawn I have started using Scotts triple action tuff builder (with preventer not the one with ant poison).  It has 3 components:
1.  Selective post-emergent herbicide that kills most weeds but not the grass.
2.  A Pre-emergent agent to prevent any other weed seeds in the soil from germinating for the next 3 months or so.
3.  A balanced fertilizer.

https://www.amazon.com/Scotts-Turf-Builder-Triple-Action1/dp/B09JVCSXJC/ref=sr_1_5?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ISsrJSit3_mCwKA2WeeinEmeWp8hS9dmgP6izw8bCnsqdPZuFtBKQ8tXcGuQ7OJ7HueheeJQ4FpGdSIdvl_HPT2GoRX-E6DfgZc5zZBFrfcVaNq3jDh8YyQn5jWYW1ELl-jU_ZQquIfraof-Maxebvj-qfOcyBomkgwg_z3spxGaKhJVEDBWw7448d9c_Ai05qDDTPCCu62g2dXZ0-lW_YS9olNDckK5i6T_PKiRRZS4hwWfPkwDiMVbavoxTyod-GnTPnqant5n7WjIwpV8ZjeGtn0rXRWzaNhcMfcS_dI.Eu0lN8OBFcPkeF6AJ2RsKmJMS5xrhk1QQA4Ll2aHlNY&dib_tag=se&hvadid=693702314872&hvdev=c&hvexpln=67&hvlocphy=9027354&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=7962158332825006038--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=7962158332825006038&hvtargid=kwd-658366902659&hydadcr=23639_13531577&keywords=scotts%2Btriple%2Baction%2Bsouthern&mcid=ad4de25f12383416b80783611660a0df&qid=1747175988&sr=8-5&th=1 (https://www.amazon.com/Scotts-Turf-Builder-Triple-Action1/dp/B09JVCSXJC/ref=sr_1_5?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ISsrJSit3_mCwKA2WeeinEmeWp8hS9dmgP6izw8bCnsqdPZuFtBKQ8tXcGuQ7OJ7HueheeJQ4FpGdSIdvl_HPT2GoRX-E6DfgZc5zZBFrfcVaNq3jDh8YyQn5jWYW1ELl-jU_ZQquIfraof-Maxebvj-qfOcyBomkgwg_z3spxGaKhJVEDBWw7448d9c_Ai05qDDTPCCu62g2dXZ0-lW_YS9olNDckK5i6T_PKiRRZS4hwWfPkwDiMVbavoxTyod-GnTPnqant5n7WjIwpV8ZjeGtn0rXRWzaNhcMfcS_dI.Eu0lN8OBFcPkeF6AJ2RsKmJMS5xrhk1QQA4Ll2aHlNY&dib_tag=se&hvadid=693702314872&hvdev=c&hvexpln=67&hvlocphy=9027354&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=7962158332825006038--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=7962158332825006038&hvtargid=kwd-658366902659&hydadcr=23639_13531577&keywords=scotts%2Btriple%2Baction%2Bsouthern&mcid=ad4de25f12383416b80783611660a0df&qid=1747175988&sr=8-5&th=1)

NOTE:  I get the one for southern lawns.  I think there is a north lawn.  Check for grass type.

Spread that March 1 and Oct 1 and 85% of my problems vanished.  And I was over run with dandelions. 

In between touch ups I use Spectracide Weed Stop which I can also recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/Spectracide-Crabgrass-Killer-Concentrate-QuickFlip/dp/B001OENXRI/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2OCD3BU4IR66C&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jfpQotLOxibwIMdKdjk3jDJDfRcG3VL3FB7eB4dtvfM1iBRzTKvaerpRWcgqYz4j8_umbl0zYeJhpt-1V6hXq6lrr-MN4oCa2ckRUnHMCdjNvHM2HZs9DsVvXi4ci-fljmouItCa3vTeVOto-vmqspEHglRIHKGwVrD1RktF21qDXckIVQxK-CI2I0_ZmtiRPndi4fN1mmHEV8yz2KWXNlSBIVXeyq2sERgYr8zWwJRx1C9kaASfshrb_CbLGfk9zMjRder2-_aY65TN1lxI-Et0zc_tivoQeN7B-su-3RI.h5uZCOW8Ui-NORO_q8cpvXSJFk-SkP1fjaVriNSGZ-c&dib_tag=se&keywords=weed%2Bstop%2Bfor%2Blawns&qid=1747176192&sprefix=weed-stop%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-4&th=1 (https://www.amazon.com/Spectracide-Crabgrass-Killer-Concentrate-QuickFlip/dp/B001OENXRI/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2OCD3BU4IR66C&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jfpQotLOxibwIMdKdjk3jDJDfRcG3VL3FB7eB4dtvfM1iBRzTKvaerpRWcgqYz4j8_umbl0zYeJhpt-1V6hXq6lrr-MN4oCa2ckRUnHMCdjNvHM2HZs9DsVvXi4ci-fljmouItCa3vTeVOto-vmqspEHglRIHKGwVrD1RktF21qDXckIVQxK-CI2I0_ZmtiRPndi4fN1mmHEV8yz2KWXNlSBIVXeyq2sERgYr8zWwJRx1C9kaASfshrb_CbLGfk9zMjRder2-_aY65TN1lxI-Et0zc_tivoQeN7B-su-3RI.h5uZCOW8Ui-NORO_q8cpvXSJFk-SkP1fjaVriNSGZ-c&dib_tag=se&keywords=weed%2Bstop%2Bfor%2Blawns&qid=1747176192&sprefix=weed-stop%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-4&th=1)




 
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Frodo on May 13, 2025, 06:27:53 PM
Buy a goat.  :D  :old:
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: AKIron on May 13, 2025, 08:06:05 PM
Goats can be ornery.
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Oldman731 on May 13, 2025, 08:44:30 PM
Goats can be ornery.

But some of them are sexy.

- oldman
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: RUSH1 on May 13, 2025, 09:28:04 PM
But some of them are sexy.

- oldman

You're thinking of sheep.   
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Lazerr on May 13, 2025, 09:36:07 PM
Yeah, Round-up Ground Clear will nuke an area. 


On the lawn I have started using Scotts triple action tuff builder (with preventer not the one with ant poison).  It has 3 components:
1.  Selective post-emergent herbicide that kills most weeds but not the grass.
2.  A Pre-emergent agent to prevent any other weed seeds in the soil from germinating for the next 3 months or so.
3.  A balanced fertilizer.

https://www.amazon.com/Scotts-Turf-Builder-Triple-Action1/dp/B09JVCSXJC/ref=sr_1_5?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ISsrJSit3_mCwKA2WeeinEmeWp8hS9dmgP6izw8bCnsqdPZuFtBKQ8tXcGuQ7OJ7HueheeJQ4FpGdSIdvl_HPT2GoRX-E6DfgZc5zZBFrfcVaNq3jDh8YyQn5jWYW1ELl-jU_ZQquIfraof-Maxebvj-qfOcyBomkgwg_z3spxGaKhJVEDBWw7448d9c_Ai05qDDTPCCu62g2dXZ0-lW_YS9olNDckK5i6T_PKiRRZS4hwWfPkwDiMVbavoxTyod-GnTPnqant5n7WjIwpV8ZjeGtn0rXRWzaNhcMfcS_dI.Eu0lN8OBFcPkeF6AJ2RsKmJMS5xrhk1QQA4Ll2aHlNY&dib_tag=se&hvadid=693702314872&hvdev=c&hvexpln=67&hvlocphy=9027354&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=7962158332825006038--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=7962158332825006038&hvtargid=kwd-658366902659&hydadcr=23639_13531577&keywords=scotts%2Btriple%2Baction%2Bsouthern&mcid=ad4de25f12383416b80783611660a0df&qid=1747175988&sr=8-5&th=1 (https://www.amazon.com/Scotts-Turf-Builder-Triple-Action1/dp/B09JVCSXJC/ref=sr_1_5?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ISsrJSit3_mCwKA2WeeinEmeWp8hS9dmgP6izw8bCnsqdPZuFtBKQ8tXcGuQ7OJ7HueheeJQ4FpGdSIdvl_HPT2GoRX-E6DfgZc5zZBFrfcVaNq3jDh8YyQn5jWYW1ELl-jU_ZQquIfraof-Maxebvj-qfOcyBomkgwg_z3spxGaKhJVEDBWw7448d9c_Ai05qDDTPCCu62g2dXZ0-lW_YS9olNDckK5i6T_PKiRRZS4hwWfPkwDiMVbavoxTyod-GnTPnqant5n7WjIwpV8ZjeGtn0rXRWzaNhcMfcS_dI.Eu0lN8OBFcPkeF6AJ2RsKmJMS5xrhk1QQA4Ll2aHlNY&dib_tag=se&hvadid=693702314872&hvdev=c&hvexpln=67&hvlocphy=9027354&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=7962158332825006038--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=7962158332825006038&hvtargid=kwd-658366902659&hydadcr=23639_13531577&keywords=scotts%2Btriple%2Baction%2Bsouthern&mcid=ad4de25f12383416b80783611660a0df&qid=1747175988&sr=8-5&th=1)

NOTE:  I get the one for southern lawns.  I think there is a north lawn.  Check for grass type.

Spread that March 1 and Oct 1 and 85% of my problems vanished.  And I was over run with dandelions. 

In between touch ups I use Spectracide Weed Stop which I can also recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/Spectracide-Crabgrass-Killer-Concentrate-QuickFlip/dp/B001OENXRI/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2OCD3BU4IR66C&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jfpQotLOxibwIMdKdjk3jDJDfRcG3VL3FB7eB4dtvfM1iBRzTKvaerpRWcgqYz4j8_umbl0zYeJhpt-1V6hXq6lrr-MN4oCa2ckRUnHMCdjNvHM2HZs9DsVvXi4ci-fljmouItCa3vTeVOto-vmqspEHglRIHKGwVrD1RktF21qDXckIVQxK-CI2I0_ZmtiRPndi4fN1mmHEV8yz2KWXNlSBIVXeyq2sERgYr8zWwJRx1C9kaASfshrb_CbLGfk9zMjRder2-_aY65TN1lxI-Et0zc_tivoQeN7B-su-3RI.h5uZCOW8Ui-NORO_q8cpvXSJFk-SkP1fjaVriNSGZ-c&dib_tag=se&keywords=weed%2Bstop%2Bfor%2Blawns&qid=1747176192&sprefix=weed-stop%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-4&th=1 (https://www.amazon.com/Spectracide-Crabgrass-Killer-Concentrate-QuickFlip/dp/B001OENXRI/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2OCD3BU4IR66C&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jfpQotLOxibwIMdKdjk3jDJDfRcG3VL3FB7eB4dtvfM1iBRzTKvaerpRWcgqYz4j8_umbl0zYeJhpt-1V6hXq6lrr-MN4oCa2ckRUnHMCdjNvHM2HZs9DsVvXi4ci-fljmouItCa3vTeVOto-vmqspEHglRIHKGwVrD1RktF21qDXckIVQxK-CI2I0_ZmtiRPndi4fN1mmHEV8yz2KWXNlSBIVXeyq2sERgYr8zWwJRx1C9kaASfshrb_CbLGfk9zMjRder2-_aY65TN1lxI-Et0zc_tivoQeN7B-su-3RI.h5uZCOW8Ui-NORO_q8cpvXSJFk-SkP1fjaVriNSGZ-c&dib_tag=se&keywords=weed%2Bstop%2Bfor%2Blawns&qid=1747176192&sprefix=weed-stop%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-4&th=1)

The reviews on that triple action are pretty mixed, been eyeballing it for 2 years now.
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: CptTrips on May 13, 2025, 10:14:06 PM
The reviews on that triple action are pretty mixed, been eyeballing it for 2 years now.

Shrug.  Try it a season.

Most who have problems aren't following the instruction.

Grass needs to be good and wet when you are applying it so the stuff will stick to the weed surface.  If the dew isn't heavy then mist down you lawn with a hose sprayer before spreading.  When I do it that way I do a section at a time so I can get it spread before it dries off then move to another section.

Make sure you get the right one for your grass.  Won't kill Johnson grass weed, but few things you can buy OTC will.  I had a yard full of dandilions other clovers and nasties and After two or three application they were gone.  Very rarely get one.




Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Eagler on May 14, 2025, 06:55:35 AM
Grass is overrated...unless it's the roll your own kind..

St Augustine here...what an expensive endeavor..

Between fungicide, insecticide and herbicides..throw in monthly watering charges and it costs a small fortune..for what?

A small patch of green between your neighbors numerous brown weedy patches...

Eagler
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: fuzeman on May 14, 2025, 08:24:06 AM
I’m not seeing many bees flying around so far this year so please keep these important critters in mind when trying to kill everything.
Title: Re: Lawn care questions
Post by: Shuffler on May 14, 2025, 08:52:26 AM
I don't even use weed and feed. I put down triple 13 in the spring and again in the late fall. It makes everything grow. The grass gets so thick after about two mowings, the weeds are gone.
Triple 13 is also known as 13-13-13. Equal parts nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium.

For weeds and grass kill... Compare N Save Concentrate works well on fence line and gardens. Careful using anything in your mulch. If any is active when you use it for planting, it may kill the plant.