General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 1Cane on July 25, 2025, 12:28:24 PM
Title: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: 1Cane on July 25, 2025, 12:28:24 PM
The Ninth Circuit has ruled California's ammunition background check illegal! For the past three years I have been denied ammunition purchases by Ca, DOJ. In the meantime, I have past two DOJ renewals for my CCW. I have had two California Congressman look into this and it always ended with fill out the correct DOJ form, which I have done numerous times. It was really exciting fill out form wait six months for it to get into system. I could always get reloads at the range for twice the going price and it really cut down on my range time. Once I can buy out of state ammo I will stock up! :x
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 25, 2025, 01:45:39 PM
The Ninth Circuit has ruled California's ammunition background check illegal! For the past three years I have been denied ammunition purchases by Ca, DOJ. In the meantime, I have past two DOJ renewals for my CCW. I have had two California Congressman look into this and it always ended with fill out the correct DOJ form, which I have done numerous times. It was really exciting fill out form wait six months for it to get into system. I could always get reloads at the range for twice the going price and it really cut down on my range time. Once I can buy out of state ammo I will stock up! :x
There was once a time when I thought the idea of hanging politicians for attempting to make end runs around the Constitution was extreme. I was wrong. Tyrants only recognize the most extreme punishment, and even that often does not deter them.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Mayhem on July 25, 2025, 02:00:45 PM
I had the same problem. I have not purchased a new gun in well over 5 years so every-time I need to buy ammo even for my CCW renew I need to go through the full $25+ Background check.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: AKIron on July 25, 2025, 02:09:19 PM
California blocked online purchases from out of state vendors didn't they? This should overturn that then I guess.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: hazmatt on July 25, 2025, 02:37:23 PM
I had the same problem. I have not purchased a new gun in well over 5 years so every-time I need to buy ammo even for my CCW renew I need to go through the full $25+ Background check.
Wow. That sux. Can you at least by an unlimited amount of ammo with the check or is that limited too?
Too bad criminals don't follow laws.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: 1Cane on July 25, 2025, 02:49:46 PM
California blocked online purchases from out of state vendors didn't they? This should overturn that then I guess.
Once ban is lifted you can by ammo online
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 25, 2025, 04:00:32 PM
Kalifornica has done that at least twice. It was overturned once, that ruling was also overturned, within maybe 48 hours. So that's been overturned. I got a couple of emails from companies I buy from saying they'd ship to Kalifornica. Fortunately, I'm in Tennessee, so it doesn't affect me. Of course, we're apparently a refugee camp for fleeing Kalifornicans, and the good ones bring idiots with them. Our three largest metropolitan areas are infested. Two are fully infested.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Busher on July 25, 2025, 06:13:44 PM
Kalifornica has done that at least twice. It was overturned once, that ruling was also overturned, within maybe 48 hours. So that's been overturned. I got a couple of emails from companies I buy from saying they'd ship to Kalifornica. Fortunately, I'm in Tennessee, so it doesn't affect me. Of course, we're apparently a refugee camp for fleeing Kalifornicans, and the good ones bring idiots with them. Our three largest metropolitan areas are infested. Two are fully infested.
Didn't someone post in another thread that for some states the civil war never ended? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 25, 2025, 09:13:40 PM
An apparent disrespect for Americans in other States.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Animl-AW on July 25, 2025, 10:03:54 PM
Teaches ya not to spray and pray,... one shot, one kill. Anything else and the game changes
My 1984 .357 mag Python (original) ,...goes where i look, 2nd shot is just backup. I don't need to hit a vital, I can take limbs off. Been shooting it for 40yrs,.. you do not want to be down range. Used to have 11 guns. Kind of a waste of money.
If I go to a range and hit the head on first shot, I go home. Rarely do I ever practice on torso,... that's easy stuff, I only practice head shots
Always had a saying,... how do you take out a whacko with AR? worn out soft quiet tennis shoes and a .22 revolver.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 25, 2025, 10:21:14 PM
An apparent disrespect for Americans in other States.
Has nothing to do with the state in which they reside.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: AKIron on July 25, 2025, 10:27:56 PM
Without the constitution there is no union.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: uptown on July 25, 2025, 11:55:28 PM
Wow I didn't know that this was even a thing. What does the law say about reloading supplies over there in Commieville? Was possessing ammo also against the law if you couldn't buy it at the time? I assume it was. That's not freedom in my eyes. SMH
We keep our brass and a buddy of mine reloads our rounds for us. I seen a long time ago that ammo would be a backdoor to regulate and control.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 26, 2025, 08:31:19 AM
Wow I didn't know that this was even a thing. What does the law say about reloading supplies over there in Commieville? Was possessing ammo also against the law if you couldn't buy it at the time? I assume it was. That's not freedom in my eyes. SMH
We keep our brass and a buddy of mine reloads our rounds for us. I seen a long time ago that ammo would be a backdoor to regulate and control.
None of my friends in the peoples' republik of kalifornica are big into shooting or relaoding, although a couple would like to be, so I can't tell you about specifics. But the laws in general are absolutely draconian.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: hazmatt on July 26, 2025, 10:26:39 AM
I recall many moons ago before many of the current laws went into effect when I lived in CA that I looked into purchasing a handgun. I was looking for some cheap tackle box kinda thing. As I recall I would have had to go to some state specific class that I had to pay for and I had to pay for a state background check in addition to the federal one, and then I could only choose something from "state approved" list and that the prices were close to twice as much as they were around the rest of the country. It was one of the final straws that made me decided to move to Texas.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Busher on July 26, 2025, 11:32:27 AM
Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I wish health care was as easy to get as, say, a gun.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: AKIron on July 26, 2025, 11:57:44 AM
When I was young most didn't have health insurance. Routine care was affordable. Now you get fined if you don't pay for unaffordable insurance. College was a lot more affordable then too. What happened in those industries? Unrestrained greed?
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: uptown on July 26, 2025, 12:02:02 PM
:rofl I don't want to because I know where you're trying to go here, but I agree. :salute I can get some likker, guns, and ammo by the end of the day but have to wait a month to get a CT scan :bolt:
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: RUSH1 on July 26, 2025, 12:02:36 PM
Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I wish health care was as easy to get as, say, a gun.
It is if you work. I've got great coverage and access to the same doctors wealthy Canadians seek out when they need more complicated procedures done.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Busher on July 26, 2025, 12:05:23 PM
Texas is reportedly going to give college students the right to carry guns on campus. So I guess that next semester, every college student in Texas is getting straight A's.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: AKIron on July 26, 2025, 12:07:59 PM
Texas is reportedly going to give college students the right to carry guns on campus. So I guess that next semester, every college student in Texas is getting straight A's.
What does one have to do with the other?
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: AKIron on July 26, 2025, 12:09:16 PM
When I was young most didn't have health insurance. Routine care was affordable. Now you get fined if you don't pay for unaffordable insurance. College was a lot more affordable then too. What happened in those industries? Unrestrained greed?
The federal government became heavily involved in both.
There is nothing that the federal government cannot make more expensive, less efficient, less effective, and less desirable.
The "affordable care act" made health insurance ten times more expensive in less than ten years.
It took longer for college tuition, but tuition is more than ten times as high as it was when I went. Now less than 50% graduate, and less than 50% who do, get a job requiring a degree.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: uptown on July 26, 2025, 12:11:00 PM
The on campus sexual assaults and rapes will plummet too. And they're not going to let folks run loose with guns like you're tryin to imply. There will be rules. C'mon man :salute
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 26, 2025, 12:15:19 PM
Hits those who are self employed the hardest. Those who are keeping America going.
Yep, the total cost of what I pay and my major multinational employer pays for my wife and I exceeds $1000 a month, not counting my HSA contribution. And since the "affordable care act" now the IRS controls what your deductible is, and ours is $7200. And we have to argue to get coverage. They steadfastly refuse to pay for medication for my wife, which would prevent her from eventually developing diabetes, hypertension (she's nearly there), and kidney/liver disease, which will actually cost them millions over her lifetime. I suppose they hope she either dies young, or is no longer covered due to me retiring, r the company changing carriers.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 26, 2025, 12:16:08 PM
When I hear that Texas, or another state is a "right to carry" state I think, "aren't they all?"
Every state should at the very least be a "shall issue" state, meaning if a law abiding citizen with no criminal record applies for a concealed carry permit, then law enforcement "shall issue" said permit, or show true cause as to why, and, if overturned by the court, then law enforcement is subject to discipline.
Constitution based open carry is absolutely what should be the law of the land. However, I have always either been commissioned, or had a permit. I don't open carry, it makes you a target.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: 1Cane on July 26, 2025, 02:56:07 PM
Wow I didn't know that this was even a thing. What does the law say about reloading supplies over there in Commieville? Was possessing ammo also against the law if you couldn't buy it at the time? I assume it was. That's not freedom in my eyes. SMH
We keep our brass and a buddy of mine reloads our rounds for us. I seen a long time ago that ammo would be a backdoor to regulate and control.
Reloading supplies same requirements. If you purchased ammo out of state and was caught $1000 fine not sure on jail time but one year max for misdemeanor here.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Busher on July 26, 2025, 03:40:06 PM
wealthy Canadians seek out when they need more complicated procedures done.
I'm going to call hogwash on this one. The number of Canadians going to the US for health care is too few to mention... for that matter all Canadian travel to the US is reportedly off over 33%.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: Oldman731 on July 26, 2025, 04:28:31 PM
I'm going to call hogwash on this one. The number of Canadians going to the US for health care is too few to mention... for that matter all Canadian travel to the US is reportedly off over 33%.
From the Canadian Medical Association:
"While it’s not known exactly how many Canadians go to the U.S. for health care, according to a poll conducted by Ipsos in March 2024, 42% of Canadians would go to the U.S. and personally pay for routine health care if needed. That’s 10% more when compared to January 2023. Of those who responded, 38% said that they would travel to the U.S. for emergency care, a number that's up 9% from the previous year."
"While it’s not known exactly how many Canadians go to the U.S. for health care, according to a poll conducted by Ipsos in March 2024, 42% of Canadians would go to the U.S. and personally pay for routine health care if needed. That’s 10% more when compared to January 2023. Of those who responded, 38% said that they would travel to the U.S. for emergency care, a number that's up 9% from the previous year."
I am aware of this and read it prior to my post. But you forgot that this survey was conducted prior to the major change in Canadian attitudes toward the US in general. Also, if you get into more depth, you will see that this survey was conducted without providing those asked with explicit pricing details for various medical treatments.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: AKIron on July 26, 2025, 05:27:38 PM
We're only up to 50 states. We have room for more.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: RUSH1 on July 26, 2025, 05:27:59 PM
I am aware of this and read it prior to my post. But you forgot that this survey was conducted prior to the major change in Canadian attitudes toward the US in general. Also, if you get into more depth, you will see that this survey was conducted without providing those asked with explicit pricing details for various medical treatments.
Yeah. He might want to revisit his "latest attitudes toward Americans" comment. Not that we give two chits.
I'm pretty sure you guys are aware that this song is like Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" If you listen to the lyrics it's not exactly an ode to America.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: AKIron on July 26, 2025, 05:44:26 PM
The song is sarcastic but so what? We're dragging everyone along whether they like it or not.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: RUSH1 on July 26, 2025, 05:47:37 PM
I'm pretty sure you guys are aware that this song is like Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" If you listen to the lyrics it's not exactly an ode to America.
Didn't even watch the video.
Title: Re: Look out I can buy ammo legally
Post by: AKIron on July 26, 2025, 06:40:09 PM
I enjoy the Amerika video by Ramstein. Underlying the protest is resignation.