President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho has my next vote ..:rolleyes:
Eagler
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: 1Cane on June 12, 2026, 06:54:14 AM
Will be on White house lawn not indoors.
:banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 12, 2026, 08:04:06 AM
Showing strength for America. I guess yall older folk probably wouldn't understand..
First president in a long time to acknowledge all of Americas great sports and what they do for Americans. First president to a NBA championship game. I saw him at the Daytona 500. It was awesome. I could feel his energy all the way from the Rolex Club.
I think its great to have a president recognizing all of Americas great sports and competition.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eviscerate on June 12, 2026, 08:09:10 AM
Yeah, defend a guy who cant sign his own legislation, hence deep state, but attack the guy they are attempting to release so called unsubstantiated blackmail on, the guy whose taking down the blackmail sex networks.
You people are weak and sad. Im glad you are being destroyed.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Busher on June 12, 2026, 11:37:27 AM
CptTrps, you cannot blaspheme his God like that. Always remember... Intelligence attacks the criticism... ignorance and panic attacks the critic.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eviscerate on June 12, 2026, 11:39:54 AM
Yeah, defend a guy who cant sign his own legislation, hence deep state, but attack the guy they are attempting to release so called unsubstantiated blackmail on, the guy whose taking down the blackmail sex networks.
You people are weak and sad. Im glad you are being destroyed.
You tend to lack reality, corruption and dereliction of your orange messiah.
We’re not alone in being destroyed, you eat dirt too right along with us and think the destruction only affects your rivals. Which is pure delirium and a whole river of denial
Just remember, what goes around comes around x2, in this case x4, saddle up, its coming like a hurricane
Wishing harm on a countryman is as unpatriotic as it gets
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Animl-AW on June 12, 2026, 12:17:44 PM
Do you actually believe your guy took time to sign 1500 pardons of traitors? If you think king liar did you should check into reality
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Mayhem on June 12, 2026, 12:28:46 PM
In!
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 12, 2026, 12:58:08 PM
You tend to lack reality, corruption and dereliction of your orange messiah.
We’re not alone in being destroyed, you eat dirt too right along with us and think the destruction only affects your rivals. Which is pure delirium and a whole river of denial
Just remember, what goes around comes around x2, in this case x4, saddle up, its coming like a hurricane
Wishing harm on a countryman is as unpatriotic as it gets
I could cares less about any fake corruption your cry wolf clowns try to expose. Yall have had 40 years to deal with Esptein and now we are dealing with it under Trump and military advisement. The former pres was in govt for 60 years...We are getting our uranium back that you traitors stole and sold to russia and Iran. You are welcome! Democrats are a national disgrace and should never hold power again along with the coward republican boot licking rhinos who stand with them. Democrats dont even have a party leader because they are so pathetic... its sad that you think im wishing harm while your party clowns flood the country with 3rd world misogynist Muslims. Completely and total loony clowns yall are.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Animl-AW on June 12, 2026, 01:28:53 PM
I could cares less about any fake corruption your cry wolf clowns try to expose. Yall have had 40 years to deal with Esptein and now we are dealing with it under Trump and military advisement. The former pres was in govt for 60 years...We are getting our uranium back that you traitors stole and sold to russia and Iran. You are welcome! Democrats are a national disgrace and should never hold power again along with the coward republican boot licking rhinos who stand with them. Democrats dont even have a party leader because they are so pathetic... its sad that you think im wishing harm while your party clowns flood the country with 3rd world misogynist Muslims. Completely and total loony clowns yall are.
Dude
Get help, no words can save you Karma has a hard bite Eat dirt and like it
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Dadtallica on June 12, 2026, 01:40:21 PM
Showing strength for America. I guess yall older folk probably wouldn't understand..
First president in a long time to acknowledge all of Americas great sports and what they do for Americans. First president to a NBA championship game. I saw him at the Daytona 500. It was awesome. I could feel his energy all the way from the Rolex Club.
I think its great to have a president recognizing all of Americas great sports and competition.
Did you type this with a straight face?
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 12, 2026, 01:58:57 PM
Get help, no words can save you Karma has a hard bite Eat dirt and like it
KARMA was electing a full president, house and senate to republicans after 60 years of establishment Crooks putting a 60 year gment clown like Biden in the whitehouse stealing that election. Yall are paying for that right now. And so is Venezuela leader, Iran, and about to be Cuba here real soon. Yall are the ones getting what you deserved for screwing over Americans. Its completely sad and irresponsible that your side takes no acknowledgement of your actions, and then wonders why we are in this situation. Go keep voting for weak drunk shreckless sellouts and we will vote for strong men who actually loves its citizenry and American sports. After this last California election I am done with the democrats. Yall are pathetic. I never want to hear the word fascist out of another Democrat ever again.
Imagine thinking you live in the smartest richest state on the planet, and then freaking Peru of all places can count their votes in one day, 15x faster than California.... oh. Its coming Animl, but its not gonna be from your side.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Busher on June 12, 2026, 04:24:41 PM
KARMA was electing a full president, house and senate to republicans after 60 years of establishment Crooks putting a 60 year gment clown like Biden in the whitehouse stealing that election. Yall are paying for that right now. And so is Venezuela leader, Iran, and about to be Cuba here real soon. Yall are the ones getting what you deserved for screwing over Americans. Its completely sad and irresponsible that your side takes no acknowledgement of your actions, and then wonders why we are in this situation. Go keep voting for weak drunk shreckless sellouts and we will vote for strong men who actually loves its citizenry and American sports. After this last California election I am done with the democrats. Yall are pathetic. I never want to hear the word fascist out of another Democrat ever again.
Imagine thinking you live in the smartest richest state on the planet, and then freaking Peru of all places can count their votes in one day, 15x faster than California.... oh. Its coming Animl, but its not gonna be from your side.
Oh my - I guess this isn't political at all. Must be in a special potion. But as I said, the panic'd attack the critic not the criticism.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Busher on June 12, 2026, 04:54:31 PM
I might add that when you are genuflecting to the guy with the teased hair and heavy makeup, you might think about most notably Sean Hannity’s Hang Out podcast—During that interview Todd Blanche stated that Trump “absolutely” would have gone to prison if he had lost the 2024 election. Blanche pointed to Trump’s 34 felony convictions in New York, the pending D.C. case, and the Florida case under appeal, arguing that “there’s no scenario in which the Courts were not going to send President Trump to prison” had he not won. Never saw the Oval Office as a get out of jail free card. Odd :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: LCADolby on June 12, 2026, 05:43:32 PM
I might add that when you are genuflecting to the guy with the teased hair and heavy makeup, you might think about most notably Sean Hannity’s Hang Out podcast—During that interview Todd Blanche stated that Trump “absolutely” would have gone to prison if he had lost the 2024 election. Blanche pointed to Trump’s 34 felony convictions in New York, the pending D.C. case, and the Florida case under appeal, arguing that “there’s no scenario in which the Courts were not going to send President Trump to prison” had he not won. Never saw the Oval Office as a get out of jail free card. Odd :rolleyes:
One man's opinion isn't fact... Just Sayin'.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Animl-AW on June 12, 2026, 06:08:22 PM
KARMA was electing a full president, house and senate to republicans after 60 years of establishment Crooks putting a 60 year gment clown like Biden in the whitehouse stealing that election. Yall are paying for that right now. And so is Venezuela leader, Iran, and about to be Cuba here real soon. Yall are the ones getting what you deserved for screwing over Americans. Its completely sad and irresponsible that your side takes no acknowledgement of your actions, and then wonders why we are in this situation. Go keep voting for weak drunk shreckless sellouts and we will vote for strong men who actually loves its citizenry and American sports. After this last California election I am done with the democrats. Yall are pathetic. I never want to hear the word fascist out of another Democrat ever again.
Imagine thinking you live in the smartest richest state on the planet, and then freaking Peru of all places can count their votes in one day, 15x faster than California.... oh. Its coming Animl, but its not gonna be from your side.
Your boy is caught sleeping on cam in meetings more that 15 times. Guves wandering speeches of delirium.
Every singke thing you make fun of in 46, 47 dies way mire often
Your denial is mind blowing.
You are angry in every subject on bbs, if your cult keeps you miserable if your king wins or loses you should consider your path. You are miserable if he's in office or out. You’d think you’d be happy now. You’re not. Your direction doesn’t seem healthy.
Planes, maps, game play politics, always sngry
Do you deny a dog is not a cat too?
I’m not miserable even with your habitual lying criminal in office who made 6 billion off being in office witj bribes and market manipulation I live life. I actually have funny things to do and say.
Eventually, your guy is gone forever. I can wait to party my ars off.. the world celebrated in crowds last time he was thrown out, many countries, our allies, rejoiced and plenty of videos of it
Buckle up, that day is coming
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Busher on June 12, 2026, 08:53:43 PM
That was an opinion expressed by the Attorney General of the United States.
You realize of course that was an indictment of an illegally weaponized "justice" system, right? If you don't understand that then you should probably stay out of politics altogether. But you are the guy who thinks Iranian women love wearing those hijabs so....
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 12, 2026, 08:59:39 PM
illegally weaponized "justice" system - your opinion but you have the right to have it. You don't have the right to tell me it's a fact.
Why do you think he said what he did? BTW, your "34 felony convictions" were all for categorizing 34 instances of the same legal expense. Something that even if incorrect was in no way a felony. In fact, it was a misdemeanor changed to felony for the sole purpose of attacking Trump. Are you unaware of this? How can anyone not blinded by hatred not see this was an illegal weaponization of "justice"?
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Busher on June 12, 2026, 10:47:30 PM
Why do you think he said what he did? BTW, your "34 felony convictions" were all for categorizing 34 instances of the same legal expense. Something that even if incorrect was in no way a felony. In fact, it was a misdemeanor changed to felony for the sole purpose of attacking Trump. Are you unaware of this? How can anyone not blinded by hatred not see this was an illegal weaponization of "justice"?
Maybe you might post a copy of your law degree?
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 12, 2026, 11:33:32 PM
Your boy is caught sleeping on cam in meetings more that 15 times. Guves wandering speeches of delirium.
Every singke thing you make fun of in 46, 47 dies way mire often
Your denial is mind blowing.
You are angry in every subject on bbs, if your cult keeps you miserable if your king wins or loses you should consider your path. You are miserable if he's in office or out. You’d think you’d be happy now. You’re not. Your direction doesn’t seem healthy.
Planes, maps, game play politics, always sngry
Do you deny a dog is not a cat too?
I’m not miserable even with your habitual lying criminal in office who made 6 billion off being in office witj bribes and market manipulation I live life. I actually have funny things to do and say.
Eventually, your guy is gone forever. I can wait to party my ars off.. the world celebrated in crowds last time he was thrown out, many countries, our allies, rejoiced and plenty of videos of it
Buckle up, that day is coming
Woops, another Tren De Aqua gang leader taken out today. Whats that? Oh, you're mad gang leaders are being taken out? Too damn bad!
Sorry, we arent playing your NWO sellout game anymore.
Its not Trump who makes me mad at all. Its democrats and the establishment and their own damn actions. Trump and our movement is the way.
What really makes me mad is your complete obliviousness to your own party, and if you want to bring the game in to it, your obliviousness to that too. I can guarantee you that I know more about maps, gameplay, and planes in AH than you, and I write here out of pure wisdom to my research in politics and my knowledge/ability in AH that I stand behind every time I fly with the #s to back it up. Yet, you mock me and then are still so damn confused why the #s drop on poor huge maps. Ohh nooo, god forbid we sideline 3 maps that freaking painstaking for fighter fights in the mid afternoon. Why the hell is it such a big deal? Im telling you out of pure experience and skill in AH, and monitoring certain maps for a freaking decade now, that these maps are horrible for the game. Its complete obliviousness to not see this....just like its complete oblivious that you dont understand why people are so pissed at the democrats and EU leaders for their actions.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Tumor on June 13, 2026, 12:42:22 AM
Woops, another Tren De Aqua gang leader taken out today. Whats that? Oh, you're mad gang leaders are being taken out? Too damn bad!
Sorry, we arent playing your NWO sellout game anymore.
Its not Trump who makes me mad at all. Its democrats and the establishment and their own damn actions. Trump and our movement is the way.
What really makes me mad is your complete obliviousness to your own party, and if you want to bring the game in to it, your obliviousness to that too. I can guarantee you that I know more about maps, gameplay, and planes in AH than you, and I write here out of pure wisdom to my research in politics and my knowledge/ability in AH that I stand behind every time I fly with the #s to back it up. Yet, you mock me and then are still so damn confused why the #s drop on poor huge maps. Ohh nooo, god forbid we sideline 3 maps that freaking painstaking for fighter fights in the mid afternoon. Why the hell is it such a big deal? Im telling you out of pure experience and skill in AH, and monitoring certain maps for a freaking decade now, that these maps are horrible for the game. Its complete obliviousness to not see this....just like its complete oblivious that you dont understand why people are so pissed at the democrats and EU leaders for their actions.
Awesome.
On a lighter note... has anyone thought of doing a welfare check on HiTech? This is weird.
IN :rofl
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eagler on June 13, 2026, 06:11:40 AM
Somebody reset something as the bbs works this morning..
Both side suck these days so it looks silly trying to say one is better than the other..
Eagler
I wish that were true, but that left wing ideology does some very unforgivable things I've witnessed over the passed few years, which include but are not limited to;
Active Voter Fraud. Damage to private property, rioting and looting. Political Assassination. Supporting terrorism and terrorist organizations. A never ending reel of mass shootings. Release of dangerous murderous criminals. Perversion of Child biology. Blatant anti-meritocracy pro-racist policies via DEI. Suppression of free speech. Desecration of War Memorials.
Traditional Conservative ideology is vehemently against so much of this list.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 09:13:52 AM
The New York banking laws are garbage, too. The "victims" say the values Trump's company placed on the real estate were correct, likely actually low, AND all the loans were paid back ahead of schedule.
What you choose to ignore is that the New York convictions were expected to be thrown out by most legal experts, at either the New York Supreme court or the lower federal court level.
The Georgia case was thrown out on evidence of massive prosecutorial misconduct, which included one prosecutor, who eventually was forced to testify against another, visiting the white house seeking advise and support.
Turns out there were 30,000 ineligible ballots counted in Fulton county Georgia. So that case is bogus as well.
As far as legal credentials go, Jonathan Turley, much lauded (democrat) Constitutional law expert and professor at George Washington University called every case bogus. So did Allen Dershowitz, also a long time democrat supporter and Constitutional law professor. In fact, it was Turley who coined the phrase "lawfare", and called it an assault on the core of the nation.
I'm sure this will get me "watched" again, or muted. Always does.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 09:18:26 AM
I wish that were true, but that left wing ideology does some very unforgivable things I've witnessed over the passed few years, which include but are not limited to;
Active Voter Fraud. Damage to private property, rioting and looting. Political Assassination. Supporting terrorism and terrorist organizations. A never ending reel of mass shootings. Release of dangerous murderous criminals. Perversion of Child biology. Blatant anti-meritocracy pro-racist policies via DEI. Suppression of free speech. Desecration of War Memorials.
Traditional Conservative ideology is vehemently against so much of this list.
Shhhhh.
And yeah, there's a massive amount I disagree with on the republican side as well. And I have been extremely critical of Trump, even when he does something that needs to be done, which, to be fair, he does often, he often screws the pooch on the execution. The operation in Iran should have been done in March, zero effort should have been made to "negotiate" with the mullahs and the IRGC, they never negotiate in good faith, and never honor an agreement. They should have been eliminated.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2026, 09:28:09 AM
I'm still waiting for all the Epstein Files.
The one's without redacting important donor's names.
I bet as many Mossad references are redacted as victim names. I have a hard time believing millions of documents concerning a pedo need to be held back for "national security".
Israel's national security maybe.
Imagine the PR when it is shown the whole Epstein mess started as a Mossad operation to get extortion material on American politicians and business leaders to exert control.
Why is AIPAC NOT required to register as a agent of a foreign government? They admit they lobby on behave of Israel. It's part of their name.
Why is Israel being injected directly into our military command and control system?
Who convinced Trumpstein this war was a great idea?
Carlson\Massie 2028! America First! Send AIPAC packing. MTG for ambassador to Israel. Release ALL the files.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 13, 2026, 09:45:13 AM
I wish that were true, but that left wing ideology does some very unforgivable things I've witnessed over the passed few years, which include but are not limited to;
Active Voter Fraud. Damage to private property, rioting and looting. Political Assassination. Supporting terrorism and terrorist organizations. A never ending reel of mass shootings. Release of dangerous murderous criminals. Perversion of Child biology. Blatant anti-meritocracy pro-racist policies via DEI. Suppression of free speech. Desecration of War Memorials.
Traditional Conservative ideology is vehemently against so much of this list.
Great points, only thing missing is the islamic invasion. Thats part of their obliviousness. How they dont see it is a phenomenon to be studied. Sadly they feel justified for this, but their cause is not of righteousness and it shows.
And yeah, there's a massive amount I disagree with on the republican side as well. And I have been extremely critical of Trump, even when he does something that needs to be done, which, to be fair, he does often, he often screws the pooch on the execution. The operation in Iran should have been done in March, zero effort should have been made to "negotiate" with the mullahs and the IRGC, they never negotiate in good faith, and never honor an agreement. They should have been eliminated.
They were all in the same room at that time and gave us ample opportunity. Trump secured missive amount of of oil being shipped to us. I for one, are glad that regime is being dealt with.
No man or government is perfect, they all have issues. No president has ever been perfect. However at least now we have a leader whose not just a 70 year government succubus supporting the same people who got us into this mess. We have a leader pushing his agenda and not the deep states. They said the same about Lincoln, who said the same about the democrats. Who was also assassinated...
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Animl-AW on June 13, 2026, 09:53:54 AM
Great points, only thing missing is the islamic invasion. Thats part of their obliviousness. How they dont see it is a phenomenon to be studied. Sadly they feel justified for this, but their cause is not of righteousness and it shows.
They were all in the same room at that time and gave us ample opportunity. Trump secured missive amount of of oil being shipped to us. I for one, are glad that regime is being dealt with.
No man or government is perfect, they all have issues. No president has ever been perfect. However at least now we have a leader whose not just a 70 year government succubus supporting the same people who got us into this mess. They said the same about Lincoln, who said the same about the democrats. Who was also assassinated...
Oil companies just warn crunchy cheeto that oil supplies are running low
I won’t bother tackling the rest
This is cult talk and addiction to conflict. A waist of time doesn’t make you right
You’re on your own. Good luck with that
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: AKIron on June 13, 2026, 10:01:55 AM
I would add billions of taxpayer dollars in fraud. Eagler likes to complain about inflation. That's a big source.
Indeed.
Let's start with
"the overarching U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) has never passed a full financial audit. It remains the only major federal agency that has not been able to achieve an unmodified (passing) financial audit since the Chief Financial Officers Act of 1990."
I wonder how much of that lost money gets piped straight to Israel and other pockets.
"The Department of Defense has failed all eight of its comprehensive, department-wide financial audits since Congress mandated annual reviews in 2018. It remains the only major federal agency that has never passed a comprehensive audit. " - Military Times
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 11:13:23 AM
The one's without redacting important donor's names.
I bet as many Mossad references are redacted as victim names. I have a hard time believing millions of documents concerning a pedo need to be held back for "national security".
Israel's national security maybe.
Imagine the PR when it is shown the whole Epstein mess started as a Mossad operation to get extortion material on American politicians and business leaders to exert control.
Why is AIPAC NOT required to register as a agent of a foreign government? They admit they lobby on behave of Israel. It's part of their name.
Why is Israel being injected directly into our military command and control system?
Who convinced Trumpstein this war was a great idea?
Carlson\Massie 2028! America First! Send AIPAC packing. MTG for ambassador to Israel. Release ALL the files.
If you weren't screaming for the "Epstein files" during the ENTIRETY of Obama/Biden AND Biden/Harris, you're simply hypocritical.The Trump administration has released millions of pages. Obama/Biden/Harris released NONE. In those twelve years, their various DoJ iterations controlled those files, and in fact, evidence clearly shows the redactions, and in fact the altering and concealment of the "Epstein files" happened during those twelve years. The DoJ was in fact an open enemy of the Trump administration during his first term.
Oh AIPAC is U.S. based, and, as such, is quite legal, whether any of us like it or not.
Carlson, Massie, and Green are done.
The big shame there is Massie. DC ruined him. He stayed three times as long as he swore he would, and tried everything to continue to stay. I don't really have a problem with him staying, other than it is a complete reversal of who and what he said he was. The problem with Massie is, unfortunately, he became too full of himself, and decided he was more important than anything else. He became unwilling to compromise, and unwilling to work with those most likely to move the needle the direction he wanted. Like it or not, the Founding Fathers designed the government to slow action and force compromise, and Massie became unwilling to compromise with those who he was most likely to succeed in working with.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Spikes on June 13, 2026, 11:20:29 AM
"the overarching U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) has never passed a full financial audit. It remains the only major federal agency that has not been able to achieve an unmodified (passing) financial audit since the Chief Financial Officers Act of 1990."
I wonder how much of that lost money gets piped straight to Israel and other pockets.
"The Department of Defense has failed all eight of its comprehensive, department-wide financial audits since Congress mandated annual reviews in 2018. It remains the only major federal agency that has never passed a comprehensive audit. " - Military Times
The military spending is minuscule in comparison to domestic entitlement spending alone, never mind NGO's and foreign aid, including USAID and the United Nations. Most of the money given to Israel is spent on U.S. produced equipment, as far as it goes, so it at least goes back into the economy, rather than being laundered into politicians pockets and their reelection funds. And Israel is now actually supporting reduction in their aid from the U.S., probably seeing that a large segment of the U.S. government seeks to handicap Israel, and prevent them from defending themselves.
I'd certainly like to see the military spending audited. I'd like to see the money better spent to create a better military, and better supported personnel. But military spending is not the source of the nearing $40 trillion debt we have, which is the biggest threat to the economy.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 11:24:59 AM
The files surrounding the cases were sealed under court order during these terms as the investigation was ongoing.
Actually, the court order preventing their release came once AFTER Epstein was convicted the first time, once AFTER Epstein was dead, and once AFTER Maxwell was convicted. Then AGAIN when Trump authorized the release, and was renewed after congress passed the measure calling for their release and Trump signed that. And no one else of any consequences has been indicted. The case was mostly ignored by Obama/Biden, after Epstein was given a sweetheart deal by their DoJ.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2026, 11:32:13 AM
Actually, the court order preventing their release came once AFTER Epstein was convicted the first time, once AFTER Epstein was dead, and once AFTER Maxwell was convicted. Then AGAIN when Trump authorized the release, and was renewed after congress passed the measure calling for their release and Trump signed that. And no one else of any consequences has been indicted. The case was mostly ignored by Obama/Biden, after Epstein was given a sweetheart deal by their DoJ.
Trumpstein ran on releasing the files.
Legislation was passed and signed by him to release all the files.
All the files have not been released and several instances of improper redacting of donor names have been caught.
Release everything. Only the names of under-18 should be redacted. Let the rest of the chips fall where they may.
I am certain there are names on both sides of the aisle. Let them be judged.
Even if Trumpstein's friends are hurt.
Maybe his Mossad friends.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 11:40:10 AM
Legislation was passed and signed by him to release all the files.
All the files have not been released and several instances of improper redacting of donor names have been caught.
Release everything. Only the names of under-18 should be redacted. Let the rest of the chips fall where they may.
I am certain there are names on both sides of the aisle. Let them be judged.
Even if Trumpstein's friends are hurt.
Maybe his Mossad friends.
Tell me you don't know or understand ANYTHING about the DoJ without saying it.
Until the DoJ is fully purged, and no republican president has been successful in doing so, you'll NEVER see the entire "Epstein files."
The DoJ remains AT LEAST 80% DEMOCRAT and they ain't releasing those files, they can't stand the damage. They redacted the files, mostly at the FBI. Remember who ran the FBI during the first Trump administration. They were obviously NOT Trump allies.
But, hey, don't let the truth and facts get in the way of your agenda.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 11:46:22 AM
I'm sorry, what? The plea agreement was signed in 2007 and Epstein plead guilty in 2008. Can you tell me who was president in 2007 and 2008?
First deal. You are absolutely correct. In fact, that makes it pretty obvious that the DoJ was turning a blind eye toward Epstein. But who were his known associates? It wasn't Bush, or any significant member of his administration. And do you REALLY think Bush actually purged the DoJ of the Clinton people?
Again, look who was actually in control of the DoJ. It wasn't Bush, or his administration. If you study the DoJ, in detail, you'll see that it is politically compromised, as is the CIA, among other agencies. At least half the time, even the AG is not in control. Do you really believe that Pam Bondi was in control of anything? I seriously doubt Patel even has complete control of the FBI, although he does seem to have some decent influence.
Consider that Epstein obviously continued to operate AFTER that initial deal. During which era?
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2026, 12:32:11 PM
First deal. You are absolutely correct. In fact, that makes it pretty obvious that the DoJ was turning a blind eye toward Epstein. But who were his known associates? It wasn't Bush, or any significant member of his administration. And do you REALLY think Bush actually purged the DoJ of the Clinton people?
Again, look who was actually in control of the DoJ. It wasn't Bush, or his administration. If you study the DoJ, in detail, you'll see that it is politically compromised, as is the CIA, among other agencies. At least half the time, even the AG is not in control. Do you really believe that Pam Bondi was in control of anything? I seriously doubt Patel even has complete control of the FBI, although he does seem to have some decent influence.
Consider that Epstein obviously continued to operate AFTER that initial deal. During which era?
Blah blah blah.
Trumpstein is POTUS now.
Release the files now. All of them. The only redactions should be the names of under-18. NNOTHING ELSE. Let the chips fall where they may. Why would Trumpstein fear that? Why would you?
Trumpstein is some kind of Superman and he can't order the release of some files?
HE can start a war, but can't get some paperwork released?
MTG already revealed that Trump admitted to her he doesn't want the files released.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Oldman731 on June 13, 2026, 01:05:40 PM
Release the files now. All of them. The only redactions should be the names of under-18. NNOTHING ELSE. Let the chips fall where they may.
To what end? Simply to satisfy people's lurid curiosity? If Very Famous People were implicated in criminal activity, there would have been prosecutions already, either under the Biden administration or under Trump's. I've never figured out why so many people so earnestly believe there's a major scandal that two opposing administrations have covered up. But we already know that anyone whose name appears in an e-mail or other communication to Epstein has his/her reputation ruined forever, no matter how silly the exchange may have been.
- oldman
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eagler on June 13, 2026, 01:18:36 PM
Ask gates how it's going...I don't really think he cares as his enormous wealth smooths out the bumps easily..
They are all rich bored pedophiles imo..
Blackmail of orange man perversions allowed this Iran illegal war..
Don't believe we will ever see all the files as the truth is so sick ...
Diversion after Diversion until its so old no one cares as there's bigger things to worry about by then...
At least we have the Kennedy Center back to normal..
How inflated can ones ego get...it's not healthy for a world leader to be so full of themselves imo..
Eagler
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2026, 01:28:51 PM
To what end? Simply to satisfy people's lurid curiosity?
Well, first, because that is what Trumpstein promised in his campaign (Yeah, I know, he promised no new ME wars either).
Second because Congress passed a law and Trumpstein signed it demanding the release.
Third, we really don't know what's in there. Why are so many files withheld on National Security reasons? What about a pedo is national security? Certainly any natsec redaction should face careful bi-partisan + judicial review.
We do know that Wexner's name was mentioned many times except the one document where he was accused by a victim of being a co-conspirator. That mention was "accidentally" improperly redacted. Maybe all the redactions are BS. That example alone proves why all the redactions need to be reviewed by non-administration entities. Trumpstein can not be trusted.
Maybe the natsec redactions are revealing the whole thing started as a Mossad Honey-Pot operation to get extortion material on American politicians and business leaders.
Maybe those are the "friends" Trumpstein admitted to MTG might be hurt if he allowed the files to be fully released.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Spikes on June 13, 2026, 01:34:27 PM
First deal. You are absolutely correct. In fact, that makes it pretty obvious that the DoJ was turning a blind eye toward Epstein. But who were his known associates? It wasn't Bush, or any significant member of his administration. And do you REALLY think Bush actually purged the DoJ of the Clinton people?
Again, look who was actually in control of the DoJ. It wasn't Bush, or his administration. If you study the DoJ, in detail, you'll see that it is politically compromised, as is the CIA, among other agencies. At least half the time, even the AG is not in control. Do you really believe that Pam Bondi was in control of anything? I seriously doubt Patel even has complete control of the FBI, although he does seem to have some decent influence.
Consider that Epstein obviously continued to operate AFTER that initial deal. During which era?
That's a lot of mental gymnastics and tin-foil hatting to come to those sorts of conclusions. I've never heard it from the POV of the Bush DOJ not doing enough (I guess?) so it's Obama's fault. That's a new one.
Anyway, I agree with Trips. Now that everything is unsealed and in the open, the guy who campaigned on releasing the files has the ability to do so, in their entirety, not redacted, aside from minors. Do it to it.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 01:41:20 PM
Release the files now. All of them. The only redactions should be the names of under-18. NNOTHING ELSE. Let the chips fall where they may. Why would Trumpstein fear that? Why would you?
Trumpstein is some kind of Superman and he can't order the release of some files?
HE can start a war, but can't get some paperwork released?
MTG already revealed that Trump admitted to her he doesn't want the files released.
Oh, yeah, because Green is some sort of irrefutable unimpeachable source.
And you do realize that the unredacted files were likely destroyed, right? Or are you really that stupid?
The FBI has been found to be full of burn bags, odds are more were "burnt" than were forgotten.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2026, 01:46:29 PM
That's a lot of mental gymnastics and tin-foil hatting to come to those sorts of conclusions. I've never heard it from the POV of the Bush DOJ not doing enough (I guess?) so it's Obama's fault. That's a new one.
Anyway, I agree with Trips. Now that everything is unsealed and in the open, the guy who campaigned on releasing the files has the ability to do so, in their entirety, not redacted, aside from minors. Do it to it.
Never ONCE did I blame the Obama/Biden/Harris DoJ for the failures of the George W. Bush DoJ.
I have, however, said for DECADES that the DoJ has been fully compromised and corrupted, and has not actually worked on behalf of actual justice, or the citizens, but rather the government, and in particular, the part of the government that they support. That has gone on since the nineteen-forties, in an ever increasing scale.
Further, odds are very little of the actual files remains, especially unredacted. Do you REALLY believe that the corrupt DoJ has kept those files pristine, unaltered, and complete? At best, they have kept what they believe they can use to further their agenda. And if, as so many claim, Trump or his associates were compromised by those files, they'd have released that already. And if it compromised Israel, they'd have released it as well. But they haven't. Given that the enemies of Trump, and the conservative movement, and Israel, held those files for a collective TWELVE YEARS, do you REALLY believe that Trump has anything to lose by releasing them? What Trump actually said was that the "Epstein files" have become nothing more than a distraction being used for political purposes. The release has been opposed far more by democrat appointed judges, who blocked the release after Epstein was dead and Maxwell was in prison.
To be perfectly clear, I'd love to see each and every person guilty of anything that is in those files exposed, indicted, convicted, and punished swiftly and severely. The flip side is the Trump administration has released millions of pages, no other administration released anything significant.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2026, 01:57:48 PM
The flip side is the Trump administration has released millions of pages, no other administration released anything significant.
Yet withholds millions more.
My guess is the more interesting ones.
"The Epstein Files Transparency Act (passed and signed in late 2025), the law required the Attorney General to make public ALL unclassified Epstein-related records within 30 days of enactment."
Trumpstein signed that to get the heat off but had no intention of complying.
And classifying a bunch of stuff to protect your rich pedo friends shouldn't be a strategy. Those need judicial review to verify the admin has faithfully obeyed the law.
And why did Trumpstein fight so hard against that law?
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 02:03:35 PM
Well, first, because that is what Trumpstein promised in his campaign (Yeah, I know, he promised no new ME wars either).
Second because Congress passed a law and Trumpstein signed it demanding the release.
Third, we really don't know what's in there. Why are so many files withheld on National Security reasons? What about a pedo is national security? Certainly any natsec redaction should face careful bi-partisan + judicial review.
We do know that Wexner's name was mentioned many times except the one document where he was accused by a victim of being a co-conspirator. That mention was "accidentally" improperly redacted. Maybe all the redactions are BS. That example alone proves why all the redactions need to be reviewed by non-administration entities. Trumpstein can not be trusted.
Maybe the natsec redactions are revealing the whole thing started as a Mossad Honey-Pot operation to get extortion material on American politicians and business leaders.
Maybe those are the "friends" Trumpstein admitted to MTG might be hurt if he allowed the files to be fully released.
Your hypocrisy literally knows no bounds, at all.
And your obsession with the "Trumpstein" fantasy shows a level of utter delusion. Again, the files were held during TWELVE YEARS of Obama/Biden/Harris and their DoJ, which went so far as to pursue parents who opposed school board actions, and THEY obviously would have known about ANY part of the files that could damage Trump or his associates, but released nothing, and prosecuted no one. The same DoJ that knowingly ran false flag operations based on paid political opposition "information" that their own people admitted was proven false. But you would have everyone believe they didn't pursue actual factual evidence of crimes of pedophilia by Trump and his associates, that you now claim Trump is concealing.
Seriously, that is as delusional as gender dysphoria.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2026, 02:09:28 PM
Release ALL the files with only redactions for minors.
THAT is what Trumpstein promised in the campaign. THAT is what the law requires.
Why don't you want all the pedo's exposed? Why are you so determined to protect them?
Why is the name of a GOP donor like Wexner redacted (illegally) in the one instance where a victim accused him of being a co-conspirator but not in thousands of other documents?
Are you really claiming that was an innocent accident? Really? Seriously?
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 02:28:43 PM
Release ALL the files with only redactions for minors.
THAT is what Trumpstein promised in the campaign. THAT is what the law requires.
Why don't you want all the pedo's exposed? Why are you so determined to protect them?
Why is the name of a GOP donor like Wexner redacted (illegally) in the one instance where a victim accused him of being a co-conspirator but not in thousands of other documents?
Are you really claiming that was an innocent accident? Really? Seriously?
Let's boil your "position" down to the bare bones basics.
Obama/Biden/Harris and their DoJ held these files, in their entirity for a combined TWELVE YEARS. During which they had full access to the unredacted versions.
During those same twelve years, they ran multiple government operations by various departments to "get Trump", at nearly ANY cost, with evidence that under normal circumstances would not even get them a basic search warrant.
However, your position is that Trump, the guy Obama/Biden/Harris pursued relentlessly at all costs, is the person hiding what is on those files because it will damage him and his associates.
But for TWELVE YEARS Trumps mortal enemies held those files, and investigated, indicted, and prosecuted two people, neither of whom was associated with Trump. But, by the way, BOTH of those people prosecuted WERE known associates of multiple democrats, including Clinton, who was in fact the Secretary of State under Obama/Biden.
And according to you, Trump has to release them unredacted to prove he and his associates are not pedophiles.
Your "position" is utterly ludicrous and hypocritical.
The case was mostly ignored by Obama/Biden, after Epstein was given a sweetheart deal by their DoJ.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eagler on June 13, 2026, 02:37:28 PM
Both can be true guys..
I appreciate the back and forth with the occasional "IN" thrown in... :aok
Eagler
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: icepac on June 13, 2026, 02:51:25 PM
Teddy Roosevelt had sanctioned boxing matches at the white house and was often on the card himself until an eye injury convinced him to learn Jiu Jitsu.
Way ahead of his time.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2026, 03:01:10 PM
Well, that is certainly how it reads. The "sweetheart deal" allowed Epstein to keep doing things and Obama and Biden did nothing about it.
Anyway, can you provide a source to where an Obama or Biden DOJ gave Epstein said "sweetheart deal"?
He is probably refering to:
"The 2008 Deal: The original non-prosecution agreement, which critics and victims labeled the "deal of the century," was signed and finalized under then-U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta and Palm Beach state prosecutors during the Bush administration. It shielded Epstein and his co-conspirators from extensive federal charges, resulting in a lenient sentence for soliciting a minor for prostitution."
But to me this is NOT a Dem vs GOP thing. Obviously Mossad would want dirt on both parties. They want leverage on WHOEVER is in power at a critical moment. They are not interested in our culture wars. We are merely a tool for them. An asset.
Look. I believe this started as a Mossad Honey-Pot operation to get extortion material on influential politicians and businessmen. Leverage they could use when needed to serve Israel's needs. (I think it later became a broader intel brokerage for friends of Mossad like CIA and MI6 and even FSB. But I believe it was originally a Mossad Op. Maxwell's father had deep intel ties and she was around spooks her whole life. Grew up with them.)
I believe that is the most important thing that the files must hide. I believe that is the national security issue. And since everyone eventually shopped there, NOBODY wants this stuff out. Not Mossad especially, but neither clients like CIA, MI6, FSB.
Release ALL the files. Any intel org that was buying and selling minors to collect extortion needs to be burnt to the ground. CIA, FBI, Mossad, MI6, FSB, I don't care. I wouldn't hesitate to light the match.
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Congressman Maxwell Frost, after reviewing files, said:
"This government is lying to us about the Epstein files..."
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 03:12:39 PM
"The 2008 Deal: The original non-prosecution agreement, which critics and victims labeled the "deal of the century," was signed and finalized under then-U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta and Palm Beach state prosecutors during the Bush administration. It shielded Epstein and his co-conspirators from extensive federal charges, resulting in a lenient sentence for soliciting a minor for prostitution."
But to me this is NOT a Dem vs GOP thing. Obviously Mossad would want dirt on both parties. They want leverage on WHOEVER is in power at a critical moment. They are not interested in our culture wars. We are merely a tool for them. An asset.
Look. I believe this started as a Mossad Honey-Pot operation to get extortion material on influential politicians and businessmen. Leverage they could use when needed to serve Israel's needs. (I think it later became a broader intel brokerage for friends of Mossad like CIA and MI6 and even FSB. But I believe it was originally a Mossad Op. Maxwell's father had deep intel ties and she was around spooks her whole life. Grew up with them.)
I believe that is the most important thing that the files must hide. I believe that is the national security issue. And since everyone eventually shopped there, NOBODY wants this stuff out. Not Mossad especially, but neither clients like CIA, MI6, FSB.
Release ALL the files. Any intel org that was buying and selling minors to collect extortion needs to be burn to the ground. CIA, FBI, Mossad, MI6, FSB, I don't care. I wouldn't hesitate to light the match.
Again, I have always wanted them all exposed, tried, and severely punished. ALL. I don't care who it involves. I'm on board for capital punishment for pedophiles, and always have been.
I remain extremely skeptical of the "it's the joooos" theories. Sorry, it's just ludicrous. Just because his last name was "Epstein" doesn't make it Mossad. In fact, the Mossad is better/smarter than that, and they'd never have used him for that reason. The Mossad has not been the most successful intelligence organization by using careless arrogant fools.
Are there people from both "parties" (mostly we have a uniparty, another subject entirely) involved? Absolutely.
And that is EXACTLY why I refuse to make this any more about the Trump administration than any administration before it. Because IT ISN'T. Apparently, since no one, in at least 12 years, could make it stick to Trump, he's likely the LEAST involved person in politics, and there is nothing mentioned anywhere that anyone has found about Trump, other than he cooperated fully, and there are no accusations against him substantiated by evidence or corroborating statements, and in fact, he's listed as a complaintant, because he turned Epstein in and had him banned from his property.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Tumor on June 13, 2026, 03:19:56 PM
Are there people from both "parties" (mostly we have a uniparty, another subject entirely) involved? Absolutely.
Well there you go. Epstien is a glaringly effective distraction that both/all sides spin whatever direction works in the moment. How people find this argument anything better than embarrassing is beyond me.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 03:32:20 PM
Well there you go. Epstien is a glaringly effective distraction that both/all sides spin whatever direction works in the moment. How people find this argument anything better than embarrassing is beyond me.
My point EXACTLY. As Trump said, it has become another distraction, used to slow or halt other things that need to be done.
Again, I want them ALL punished, severely. But due to extreme levels of corruption, I don't see it happening. You want the Epstein files released, and perpetrators punished? Cool. START by completely PURGING the ENTIRE DoJ AND the CIA and associated agencies. Because, until you do, you can't touch certain people. And start prosecuting and purging congress as well, especially the insider trading, money laundering, and downright treason. Because THEY are protecting the guilty as well.
However, unlike Massie, I'm choosing NOT to die on a hill I know we're not going to take.
And I look at it as priorities. Yeah, the pedophiles are a problem, military spending waste/fraud is a problem. However, there are much bigger problems far more likely to destroy us, and that we can deal with, and are dealing with.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eagler on June 13, 2026, 03:40:28 PM
When trump played around on pedo island he had no clue he'd be potus one day..no one in their right mind thought he would...
The guys a pig and don't doubt he and Jeffrey assaulted underage children..
And yes it was mossad..please research what CptTrips stated about the woman sitting in a country club prison after being caught trafficking kids and her fathers ties ...
Crooks and pervs they are...
The fact some act like he's a hero is very sad..
You do know the Republicans hate him as much as the democrats do..he made a laughing stock out of all of them in 2016 when anyone with a working brain had to stop the hag from winning...
Still think they will make an example of him to prevent another loose cannon from getting the same popularity..say a nice recession if not a depression..
Eagler
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: AKIron on June 13, 2026, 04:08:46 PM
When trump played around on pedo island he had no clue he'd be potus one day..no one in their right mind thought he would...
The guys a pig and don't doubt he and Jeffrey assaulted underage children..
And yes it was mossad..please research what CptTrips stated about the woman sitting in a country club prison after being caught trafficking kids and her fathers ties ...
Crooks and pervs they are...
The fact some act like he's a hero is very sad..
You do know the Republicans hate him as much as the democrats do..he made a laughing stock out of all of them in 2016 when anyone with a working brain had to stop the hag from winning...
Still think they will make an example of him to prevent another loose cannon from getting the same popularity..say a nice recession if not a depression..
Eagler
And yet Trump is not on a flight manifest to that island. But Bill Clinton IS. And again, as badly as every democrat wanted to stop Trump, THREE TIMES , while they had the files TWELVE YEARS, they couldn't offer any evidence to connect him to crimes with Epstein on or off the island. None. They tried to connect him to Russia, and their own investigation cleared him. They tried him on bogus "fraud" claims that can only be brought in New York because no other jurisdiction is that insane. And it will get tossed, because it is bogus. They tried to get him for "election interference" and the case fell apart because of extreme prosecutorial misconduct, and then it turned out THERE WERE 30,000 ineligible ballots counted in Fulton county alone. But you claim Trump was guilty of pedophile crimes, yet in MILLIONS of pages of files, there's zero evidence of Trump being involved, because if there was, they'd have sacrificed their own to get Trump. But they didn't.
Still, you cling bitterly to crap you can't possibly hope to get anyone to prove, because it simply didn't happen.
You want to believe it is "mossad", but there is zero proof, other than what you claim is a "connection." But there's no proof.
You want all of it so badly, you'll believe anything. :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
It's hilarious, and sad at the same time. You'd absolutely attempt to try and convict Trump, on bogus charges, with fake evidence, and let guilty people walk free.
I don't CARE about the "republicans". Most of them are uniparty RINO scumbags who are barely different from raging leftist lunatics. I despise most "republicans" as much as or more than I do most democrats, at least the democrats are more honest about being money laundering, tax and spend, anti-American scumbags. The uniparty RINO's lie about that, too.
I also don't see Trump as any sort of hero. He's a guy, with clay feet, who is flawed, and has a flawed character. Even what he does try to do that should be done, he most often screws it up.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Randy1 on June 13, 2026, 04:46:10 PM
Clinton won his election by the simple phrase, "It's the economy stupid." A piece of history Trump has forgot.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eagler on June 13, 2026, 04:48:46 PM
Got that all wrong Savage...
I pray I am proven totally wrong on all of it..
I do think like CptTrips the pedo behavior is so big the old guard will not sacrifice themselves to get trump out of their way...
It's the new representatives that are pushing for the files as they aren't in them..
Eagler
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2026, 04:50:30 PM
You want the Epstein files released, and perpetrators punished? Cool. START by
No. Start by releasing the files as the law states. Any other course is simply a ploy to delay, delay, delay hoping people move on. Release the files. It will prove me right or wrong.
A bi-partisan commission under a federal judge can review any national security claims. We already have processes to handle legitimate intelligence matters within the courts. No one wants true national security info divulged, but why our national security is tied up with a pedophilia case bears some deep investigation in Congress.
The guilty don't want the files released. Don't fight their battle. Release the files and cleanup what ever mess needs cleaning.
If there is evidence that others in the past have worked to conceal this, that is all part of the same case as far as I'm concerned. Burn them all down and their enablers.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 05:17:29 PM
No. Start by releasing the files as the law states. Any other course is simply a ploy to delay, delay, delay hoping people move on. Release the files. It will prove me right or wrong.
A bi-partisan commission under a federal judge can review any national security claims. We already have processes to handle legitimate intelligence matters within the courts. No one wants true national security info divulged, but why our national security is tied up with a pedophilia case bears some deep investigation in Congress.
The guilty don't want the files released. Don't fight their battle. Release the files and cleanup what ever mess needs cleaning.
If there is evidence that others in the past have worked to conceal this, that is all part of the same case as far as I'm concerned. Burn them all down and their enablers.
You need to understand. And likely never will, that Woodrow Wilson created a completely untouchable and unaccountable "bureaucracy of administrative experts" in DC that has been growing for 100 years. They're everywhere in the government, especially places like the DoJ and CIA. And THEY are the ones keeping the files locked down. By various nefarious means.
You think you elect the people in control. You do not. There exists an entire massive segment of the U.S. federal government, in hundreds of layers of bureaucracy, that openly defy even the president of the United States, AND congress. It has been that way, and getting worse, for a century.
Until you get THEM out, you don't get the files you have your heart set on. You. Just. Don't. I don't care who is president. I don't care who holds the house, or the senate.
That's why they hate Trump, Musk, etc. Because neither of those guys is "one of them". And no, they're not "the Free Masons", they're not "the Illuminati", or "the mossad". They're the people burrowed into your government like ticks, at every level and every layer that you never see. Most often, THEY choose who you get to vote for.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Mayhem on June 13, 2026, 05:17:58 PM
Any bets how long this is going to be allowed to continue before the lock?
I'm thinking 8 to 10 pages or by Monday as I'm guessing whoever or whatever moderates the boards is off for the weekend.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: AKIron on June 13, 2026, 05:21:17 PM
There are UFO files not being revealed either. Even though ordered by the POTUS.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eagler on June 13, 2026, 05:23:34 PM
Clinton won his election by the simple phrase, "It's the economy stupid." A piece of history Trump has forgot.
Must be nice when you have the .com bubble on your shoulders after 2 republican presidents whose Republicans congress balanced the budget thank you Newt.. then 911 happened and everything changed thanks to those Aholes.
Trump is now in the middle of the largest AI boom in history. Ive made over 60k these last year and half. If you know, you know, but the economy is going to be very strong because of this, along with all the investments pouring in, the fruad being cut, and the people here illegally increasing prices getting sent home. We are about to see invredibly cheap gas here soon, like you haven't seen since the 90s hopefully. We are dealing with Venezuelean gas, saudi gas, Iran gas, and American gas now. They are getting their last licks in now.
Trump is affecting real change. Change like no one has ever done before. With the true American spirit on his mind always. We are blessed to have a president like him in our lifetimes. Atleast someone is trying to take down these Gangs and oppressive dictators.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 13, 2026, 06:32:12 PM
Lmao what part is libelous? Are you really trying to say Trump never visited Epstein's Island?
Pedo Protector.
There is currently no credible public evidence that Donald Trump ever visited Jeffrey Epstein's private Island.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 13, 2026, 11:28:46 PM
Trump never visited the Island. Trump is the one bringing it all down. Trumps DOJ has arrested more pedos and gang members than any other president. Probably why they hated him so much. If it weren't for Trump, Eaptein would have never been arrested. Q was way ahead of all of yall and Trump was involved with Q. A military operation to get people prepared for this stuff. That being said. There is far more actual daming images and videos from pizzagate and not redacted emails wikileaks that the dems never want to acknowledge and no one got arrested for that, but many dark cults were exposed with all of that. People see right through the left trying to frame Trump for Epstein, when Epstein was texting the Virgin Island house rep during a house interrogation of Trumps business. To say that Trump was on the same side as Epstein is purely silly. Then trying to frame Trump with Russia, when it was the dems who brokered Uranium to Russia and deals with Iran through Valerie Jarret.
I think many of you dont have a damn clue whats really going on, and whats really at stake, but atleast we finally have a president who does, and who has a unique perspective for both private ownership and government in foreign and domestic policy.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eagler on June 14, 2026, 06:46:30 AM
Don't know about you but I am disappointed that there isn't a couple of UFC ladies banging it out tonight..it's just dudes on the ticket....
I guess it could be worse... if the Hunk were still kicking it'd probably have been a WWE fake wrestling ho down..
Wondering if some of you will celebrate his birthday vicariously.. :banana: :banana: :banana:
Lmao what part is libelous? Are you really trying to say Trump never visited Epstein's Island?
Pedo Protector. It's the weekend, I'm sure HTC has better things to do than babysit you lot.
Evidence or just TDS? I'm confident it's just the latter.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: AKIron on June 14, 2026, 08:00:17 AM
Idiocracy is in full though but it isn't what Eagler "thinks".
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: AKIron on June 14, 2026, 08:03:47 AM
BTW, someone who didn't complain about the brain dead "president" whose daughter complained he made her uncomfortable at 12 is not allowed to complain about pedophiles.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: AKIron on June 14, 2026, 08:08:54 AM
I'll likely be silenced anyhow so will get a parting point. It is ludicrous to claim an admin who had access to all the Epstein files for many years did not leak them because of any legal restrictions when you consider those same people had no compunction against fabricating and acting on the Russian hoax. There's some Idiocracy for ya.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 08:38:23 AM
I'll likely be silenced anyhow so will get a parting point. It is ludicrous to claim an admin who had access to all the Epstein files for many years did not leak them because of any legal restrictions when you consider those same people had no compunction against fabricating and acting on the Russian hoax. There's some Idiocracy for ya.
Previous admins didn't release the files because there are people on both sides of the aisle in there.
It's obvious Mossad would want material on both parties. They don't care about our culture wars. They use us a tool to achieve their strategic national goals.
Look. It's simple. Release the 6 million files on index. Unredacted except for the names of minors. As the signed law demands. Let Dems and GOP both be judged. Those fighting so hard to protect pedo's really need to stop and do a gut check. There is no honorable argument to not want an entire international pedo ring exposed.
It must be full, unredacted public release to get the truth out. We've already seen cases were the names of important donors were illegally redacted. Get it all out.
I have absolutely no problem frog-marching Clinton into a prison anymore than Trumpstein. Burn them all down. If our CIA was involved, burn it down.
If politics weren't involved, no one arguing to shield the pedo's would be making that silly argument.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 14, 2026, 09:11:22 AM
Previous admins didn't release the files because there are people on both sides of the aisle in there.
It's obvious Mossad would want material on both parties. They don't care about our culture wars. They use us a tool to achieve their strategic national goals.
Look. It's simple. Release the 6 million files on index. Unredacted except for the names of minors. As the signed law demands. Let Dems and GOP both be judged. Those fighting so hard to protect pedo's really need to stop and do a gut check. There is no honorable argument to not want an entire international pedo ring exposed.
It must be full, unredacted public release to get the truth out. We've already seen cases were the names of important donors were illegally redacted. Get it all out.
I have absolutely no problem frog-marching Clinton into a prison anymore than Trumpstein. Burn them all down. If our CIA was involved, burn it down.
If politics weren't involved, no one arguing to shield the pedo's would be making that silly argument.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Hilarious that you believe Trump to be both incompetent, but also so powerful that he could purge federal agencies enough to get the files released, unredacted. Some courts still continue to block a significant portion from being released. Funny, people accuse Trump of defying the courts and Constitution, then demand he defy the courts and the Constitution. More hypocrisy. And then, the inference that the Trump administration doesn't serve both sides, unlike previous administrations. Well, if they don't serve both sides, they're making efforts, and obviously have released millions of pages, when previous administrations released nothing, then where is the evidence Trump is somehow involved? You can't have it both ways. Well, at least not and have an honest discourse. More hypocrisy.
Not aware of anyone here, or in most other places, protecting pedophiles. Except in the CIA and associated agencies, as well as in the DoJ. The files still have value to them, and other people in other agencies in the U.S. government, as blackmail material.
What control the Trump administration does seem to have, has yielded several agencies rescuing tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of trafficked children, and capturing hundreds of child traffickers and pedophiles. Yet you claim their "pedophile protectors. More hypocrisy.
Again, no one has provided any proof of Mossad involvement, the "it's the joooos" claims are without evidence. Israel got massive support from the U.S. long before Epstein was even adult, much less a financier and a trafficker. :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
Again with the childish, pedantic, delusional "Trumpstein" stupidity. Without any shred of evidence of his involvement, while known evidence exonerates him. Pure TDS.
We can explain it to you, but we can't understand it for you.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 09:21:52 AM
Hilarious that you believe Trump to be both incompetent, but also so powerful that he could purge federal agencies enough to get the files released, unredacted.
It was quite obvious Trump didn't want that law passed. He lobbied HARD against it. He broke with several of his long time biggest supporters over this.
He signed it to get the heat off but never intended to allow it to be enacted. He hoped he could distract (hmmm how could he distract everyone?) until it is forgotten and the burry it.
Release the files unredacted and we will see who is right.
It is a gross look to be trying so hard to shield pedos.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: LCADolby on June 14, 2026, 09:24:06 AM
Trump Derangement Syndrome goes hard :banana:
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Animl-AW on June 14, 2026, 09:41:23 AM
Just like getting “ woke” backwards Same with TDS, he has derangement syndrome. It’s literally worded as his problem. If you’re deranged you may have TDS.
It’s a cult, no different than Waco or Rev Jim Jones. You will never ever make sense to them. The hardest thin to do is free someone from a cult. That alone is TDS
Conflict fishing
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 09:44:43 AM
If there will be dirt on both sides, how is wanting the release TDS?
I get such a laugh when a dislike for the man is labeled as TDS, suggesting that the dislike is some form of inhibition. It is an easy out for those that love the guy.
But it leads to a clear question... this guy's death at 80 years of age is as probable as his next tee time. Will his flock be lost to wandering the wilderness when he croaks? :headscratch:
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 10:09:58 AM
I get such a laugh when a dislike for the man is labeled as TDS, suggesting that the dislike is some form of inhibition. It is an easy out for those that love the guy.
But it leads to a clear question... this guy's death at 80 years of age is as probable as his next tee time. Will his flock be lost to wandering the wilderness when he croaks? :headscratch:
I think it goes way beyond Trump.
He is just the latest to try and stop the full release.
I hope that Massie and MTG use the Speech and Debate Clause to read-out the top one hundred names in the files, their context, the file id, and page number as reference.
They can't be touched and that must be written into the Congressional record.
That would end their career in the GOP, but I think AIPAC is going to assure that anyway.
Light the match on the way out.
He has teased that before:
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 14, 2026, 10:27:08 AM
Theyve been attacking the guy every day since he walked down elevator. A man who was never in office before, unlike every other candidate. They wasted 80 million on mueller to try to discredit him. Have tried every desperate attack in the book and even had a state arrest him for the first time in American history. Then they've tried to assassinate him twice, and then blatantly stole an election in front of everyone, and of course they are too weak to even acknowledge statistics and how bell weather counties work. Its just sad we have to deal with such arrogance, ignorance, and dishonesty in our society. So yeah id definitely say TDS is a very real thing because its the only guy and thing the dems want to talk about, they dont want to talk about anything good Trump has done ever. That's why they are losing.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 10:29:14 AM
If there is dirt on both sides, why is wanting the release TDS?
Carrying water for pedo's is not a good look.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eagler on June 14, 2026, 10:50:42 AM
I think Stormy can take Marilyn's place..if she can memorize the words..
Or do you guys think that didn't happen either..
Eagler
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: LCADolby on June 14, 2026, 11:07:14 AM
You don't like the man, fair enough, but when you combine your dislike for the man with the crazy claims with zero% proof... :rolleyes:
I'm pretty indifferent to Donald Trump, but I'm not indifferent to the over-whelming levels currently unsubstantiated claims against the man, that are at best deformation and at worst slander/libel.
Until proven you are throwing around meaningless and baseless claims like kids in a playground claiming "cooties!"
Claiming people are wrong or apologists or carrying water or whatever daft nonsensical thing you want to call it, for upholding "innocent until proven guilty" is the TDS rotting your brain in this instance.
Boys, you need your heads banging together.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 11:11:40 AM
You're holding onto that really tight, despite me ignoring it for the reason I didn't make that assertion.
I cannot defend a point I didn't make or your misunderstanding of something I typed.
Perhaps I did. Now is the time to clear this up.
We can both agree that wanting the full Epstein files released unredacted except for the names of minors is not a sign of TDS, but a sign of wanting full accountability finally and to remove the ability of rich and powerful people like Les Wexner from having their names redacted or evidence destroyed.
It is the law. It is what should be done. The guilty should not be protected because they are rich or powerful.
If anything thing it must be what the core of drain the swamp means. There is no more vile corner of the swamp than the rich and powerful who think they can abuse children and buy their way out of accountability. And people trying to protect them should be ashamed.
If that is your stance as well, then I apologize for my misunderstanding.
I'll admit my own failing. A year ago I would have assume the info on Gates would be baloney. Now I want it all laid out.
Any attempt to redact things for "national security" reasons need to be deeply suspect and verified by others. It would be tempting to use that blanket to shield "friends".
BTW, Massie or MTG could reveal names on the floor even if redacted for national security reasons without legal risk due to the Speech and Debate Clause.
If AIPAC doesn't Charlie Kirk them before their last day, I'm hoping they will.
Massie already exposed Wexner. He needs to burn it all down.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: LCADolby on June 14, 2026, 12:56:38 PM
He is just the latest to try and stop the full release.
I hope that Massie and MTG use the Speech and Debate Clause to read-out the top one hundred names in the files, their context, the file id, and page number as reference.
They can't be touched and that must be written into the Congressional record.
That would end their career in the GOP, but I think AIPAC is going to assure that anyway.
Light the match on the way out.
He has teased that before:
Green quit. She's gone. Replaced. No longer in congress. Considering fleeing the country. She already ended her career. And she accomplished what?
Massie could have done it. Swore he would. Didn't do it. Massie is done as well. And he accomplished what? If it is so important to him, why has he not done it?
Dying on a hill you cannot hope to take, when there are many battles that can be won, that might even get you to a point where you CAN take that hill, is a fool's errand, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".
It's a shame, too, Massie could have done so much more. Now he's just trying to take a dump in the punch bowl for spite.
I think Trump has figured out, the files won't be released, there's too much obstruction, too powerful, in place. He's moved on. His argument regarding the files is that they are just being used as a distraction for political purposes, and no one really cares about punishing the guilty, or helping the victims. He's not against the release, he's against the distraction. This is simply "russiagate" all over again. They know he wasn't involved. They just want to tie up another Trump term, like they did the first time. Trump sees that. So does anyone else with their eyes open.
As far as DC goes, Trump is correct. No one there really cares. Not 10% of congress, meaning less than 55 people, care. In fact, Massie has been in congress fourteen years. Why now? Seriously. Why is it a big deal in 2025-2026? Why not 2012-2024?
Yes, let's clear this up. Sure, millions would love to see it all out. I'm one of them. Like the other crimes, like the corruption, like the other hidden sex scandals we pay to be settled, like the illegal immigration, like the importing of sworn enemies as immigrants, like the plandemic, I quite literally want to see people swing from the gallows. for their crimes against children, the nation, and humanity. Pretty sure there is no one on this board who doesn't want the files released and the guilty punished, stop claiming they don't.
Epstein was caught, the first time, at least in a major way where state and federal felony prosecution was probable, twenty years ago, in 2006. Suddenly, 19 years later, after the end of the Bush term, TWO Obama/Biden terms, a Trump term (where NOTHING was said, because "russia, russia, russia"), and a Biden Harris term, now it's a huge issue, that is all Trump's fault for not getting it resolved. And suddenly, when nothing else they tried sticks, they claim Trump is involved. Because Trump said he's release the files? Seriously? What president has delivered on 20% of what he promised? But this promise is somehow a bigger deal? They released what 12 million pages?
Make it make sense. Why is it Trump you want to call "pedophile protector", screaming at the top of your lungs? Why not Bush? Why not Obama? Why not Biden? Why not Harris?
One reason. You hate Trump more than you hated any of them, and you're willing to go to any lengths, no matter how ludicrous, no matter how invalid, to disrupt his administration.
A full and complete release of all files, with only minors redacted, is a great thing. No doubt.
Making it a Trump only issue, when there have been five years of Trump as president, and fourteen years of other presidents, is TDS. Period. Especially when his administration released 12 million pages, and no one else released any.
Oh, the redactions are an FBI act. To be perfectly clear, both Wray and Comey are sworn mortal enemies of Trump, and they ran the FBI. Wray was only replaced in 2025. With Patel at the FBI, burn bags have been found and released. So, why aren't Comey, Wray, and others "pedohpile protectors"? Why not Merrick Garland?
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 01:06:47 PM
A full and complete release of all files, with only minors redacted, is a great thing.
I ignored the rest. This is the only valid statement. In this we are in agreement.
Massie is there until Jan. He'll be on the floor for 6 more months.
BTW, wanting the Epstein files released isn't TDS anymore than criticizing Black Panthers means you are racist, or criticizing the nation\intel\military of Israel makes you antisemitic.
Those are smooth-brain tropes to try and avoid accountability.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Eviscerate on June 14, 2026, 01:36:17 PM
I ignored the rest. This is the only valid statement. In this we are in agreement.
Massie is there until Jan. He'll be on the floor for 6 more months.
BTW, wanting the Epstein files released isn't TDS anymore than criticizing Black Panthers means you are racist, or criticizing the nation\intel\military of Israel makes you antisemitic.
Those are smooth-brain tropes to try and avoid accountability.
You ignored the rest because you have no valid reply for it.
If Massie was going to do something, he would have.
Making it an issue in 2025-2026 and not in 2007-2024 is pretty much TDS.
Admit that you never made an issue of this with any other administration, when three other administrations had three times as much time combined to do something.
I have no accountability in this to avoid. None. I have never called for anything other than a complete release of the files, and severe punishment for the guilty, regardless of status, party affiliation, or any other factor. Never. Not once. And I have been consistent about it regardless of who is/was in office. I have zero control over the files. No one I could have voted for could have, or would have done any better with it. No one else anyone got elected has done as much.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 02:03:36 PM
Admit that you never made an issue of this with any other administration, when three other administrations had three times as much time combined to do something.
Boy you have a learning disability. I wasn't aware of the full extent of this until parts had been recently released. Now I want it ALL released. There is obviously dirt here. Maxwell was convicted of Sex trafficking ... to no one?
If anyone past or present has been involved in covering this up I think they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I'm willing to follow these files back to day one and prosecute everyone. Why aren't you?
I believe several of the administrations didn't want it released because there were politicians on both sides in the files. Mutually assured destruction.
I believe the admins didn't want Israel to take the heat they will if it turns out the behind the origins of this. They still viewed them as an ally. My guess is after this is found out, it will be hard to vote for those billions every year to send them.
Just release all the unredacted files and we'll see what is what. Why are you arguing so hard to protect pedos? Kinda gross.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 14, 2026, 03:08:53 PM
Boy you have a learning disability. I wasn't aware of the full extent of this until parts had been recently released. Now I want it ALL released. There is obviously dirt here. Maxwell was convicted of Sex trafficking ... to no one?
If anyone past or present has been involved in covering this up I think they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I'm willing to follow these files back to day one and prosecute everyone. Why aren't you?
I believe several of the administrations didn't want it released because there were politicians on both sides in the files. Mutually assured destruction.
I believe the admins didn't want Israel to take the heat they will if it turns out the behind the origins of this. They still viewed them as an ally. My guess is after this is found out, it will be hard to vote for those billions every year to send them.
Just release all the unredacted files and we'll see what is what. Why are you arguing so hard to protect pedos? Kinda gross.
Where? Name one place. Go ahead. Where have I said the files should not be released? Since it became public again seven years ago, I have called for the files to be released and the guilty severely punished. At no time has my position changed. I have been openly in favor of hanging pedophiles in public for about 50 years now. And if you didn't know about Epstein YEARS ago, that's YOUR IGNORANCE, not mine. He was arrested the 2nd time in 2019, on the same type of charges as in 2006. It was pretty public. And he'd already made all sorts of claims he never provided evidence for. He was dead 6 weeks later. And stayed in the news ever since. "Epstein's like these Christmas lights, he's not gonna hang himself" was an unavoidable meme. That news includes the knowledge of his activities with the "rich, powerful, and famous", dating back to interviews he gave 14 years ago, making claims, and providing no evidence. So, for SEVEN YEARS this has gone on. But it's only an issue for you now. And you claim others have a learning disability? Seriously?
I only said that there are people fully embedded in multiple government agencies, who are never purged by incoming administrations, who not only redacted the files, but put many of them in "burn bags", and blocked their release. The DoJ, the CIA, the NSA, and various courts. I said it was not a "Trump" specific issue, which YOU make it out to be, and I said there's no evidence of the Mossad being involved, where you claim it is. Israel has been getting massive support from the U.S. for 60+ years, long before Epstein or Maxwell were out of diapers. Why, when they have been getting the aid they ask for, would they run an operation to endanger that?
I look at all of this from a common sense, logic, and evidence based view.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: -gg- on June 14, 2026, 03:16:37 PM
Since it became public again seven years ago, I have called for the files to be released and the guilty severely punished. At no time has my position changed.
Well, that's just TDS.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 14, 2026, 03:26:14 PM
Again, when Q posted more info about Epstein than anyone else in 2018 Yall shrugged it off and called it a conspiracy theory. In 2012, when Alex Jones was calling it out, yall called it a conspiricy theory. When Wikileaks posted damning emails proving pizzagate with Hillary the dems and all the sex cults that were uncovered, yall shrugged it off and didnt call for any arrests. There is far more damning stuff that came out from that. Trump and the military have worked greatly to expose this establishment racket. A racket thats been going on since 1960, so the whole "muh pedo protector" is a complete projection by the left in their next attempt to blame trump for 80 years of government establishment corruption selling out the American people. Its laughable coming from the LGBTQLMNOP community. The crazy thing is, the Clinton's are the ones who established the Amber Alert system. And trump doesnt have any pictures with Rachel Chandler on Espteins plane like Bill Clinton does.
The only reason dems care is because they think this will "get trump" finally. But they continue to fail and it always comes back on them and their corruption. Ask all the billions Trump had made suing the news media for propaganda and all the prosecutors going after Trump now fighting their own legal battles of corruption. They are not the side of righteousness.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 03:31:00 PM
Again, when Q posted more info about Epstein than anyone else in 2018 Yall shrugged it off and called it a conspiracy theory. In 2012, when Alex Jones was calling it out, yall called it a conspiricy theory. When Wikileaks posted damning emails proving pizzagate with Hillary the dems and all the sex cults that were uncovered, yall shrugged it off and didnt call for any arrests. There is far more damning stuff that came out from that. Trump and the military have worked greatly to expose this establishment racket. A racket thats been going on since 1960, so the whole "muh pedo protector" is a complete projection by the left in their next attempt to blame trump for 80 years of government establishment corruption selling out the American people. Its laughable coming from the LGBTQLMNOP community. The crazy thing is, the Clinton's are the ones who established the Amber Alert system. And trump doesnt have any pictures with Rachel Chandler on Espteins plane like Bill Clinton does.
The only reason dems care is because they think this will "get trump" finally. But they continue to fail and it always comes back on them and their corruption. Ask all the billions Trump had made suing the news media for propaganda and all the prosecutors going after Trump now fighting their own legal battles of corruption. They are not the side of righteousness.
So all the files should be released immediately, unredacted except for the names of minors, right?
It's amazing how hard it is to get certain people to just say that. They are so afraid there is something in there that will hurt their "team".
That is how they've gotten away with it for so long.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 14, 2026, 03:45:56 PM
So all the files should be released immediately, unredacted except for the names of minors, right?
It's amazing how hard it is to get certain people to just say that. They are so afraid there is something in there that will hurt their "team".
Id rather just see major arrests. Reading all that sick crap isnt good. All the private settlement in congress should be released too. Along with all the secret space budgets and anti gravity tech they have.
But lile Virgil said, its not legal for trump to release this stuff, it's up to the DOJ to arrest and congress to vote on files to release. Trumps presidency exposed epstein and has done more than any other president to go after these people.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 03:51:09 PM
But you won't without exposure. They know all the people in power and control. They will pay the right people or offer the right bribe. They can operate in the shadows. Sunlight will destroy them.
Release the files. All of them. Now.
That will shock and horrify the public and they will demand accountability.
Leave it to the Good-ole-Boy network and half those files will disappear when no one is looking like Wexner had his name redacted.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 03:55:19 PM
Does it seem strange to you that Maxwell was transferred to a min security Club Fed?
"What made the Maxwell case controversial is that she was convicted of sex-trafficking offenses, and Bureau of Prisons policies have historically made many sex offenders ineligible for minimum-security camps without special approval or waivers. Several lawmakers have publicly argued that Maxwell would not ordinarily have qualified for a minimum-security camp under standard policy."
Maybe someone gave a waiver. Maybe the right people got paid off or threatened.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 14, 2026, 04:53:47 PM
Does it seem strange to you that Maxwell was transferred to a min security Club Fed?
"What made the Maxwell case controversial is that she was convicted of sex-trafficking offenses, and Bureau of Prisons policies have historically made many sex offenders ineligible for minimum-security camps without special approval or waivers. Several lawmakers have publicly argued that Maxwell would not ordinarily have qualified for a minimum-security camp under standard policy."
Maybe someone gave a waiver. Maybe the right people got paid off or threatened.
Considering her partner killed himself or was murdered very sketchy in that max prison, perhaps they are making special arrangements to keep her alive. There are so many people involved in this, rich high level people that the way this has to come down will need to be structured and I can assure its been planned and being planned as we speak. However, who gets a pass vs who doesnt is the tricky part. See yall want Trump to get taken down and exposed first, that would thus eliminate Trump who is the main person the military needs to run this operation. You take out Trump, then you can manipulate the other powers not to arrest anyone and then everyone will forget about it and Trump goes down for it all as the "leader of the ring". But thats not going to happen because Trump knows the inside game and what really going on and the real plan to take all of this down.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 14, 2026, 05:13:26 PM
Considering her partner killed himself or was murdered very sketchy in that max prison, perhaps they are making special arrangements to keep her alive.
That is a perfectly reasonable possibility.
However, the minimum security prison would be much easier to penetrate than if she was being kept in solitary in the darkest hellhole prison in our country under 23 hour lockdown for the rest of her life.
Maybe she is being placed there to get at easier.
When I was in the AF I was at a base that shared some facilities with a min security prison. I think Nellis. They didn't even have walls. Just painted lines on the ground where the inmates had to stay within. That sounds a lot easier to penetrate that a SuperMax prison solitary confinement.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 14, 2026, 08:17:54 PM
Maxwell has already been sentenced, and apparently has never offered to name anyone they didn't already have, out in the open. She's probably not in much danger. Thought she appeared before congress once (I don't have dates, results, or details handy, not going to say yes or no), she probably got a waiver for that. And, again, she didn't offer to give anyone up. Long as there's no noises about her rolling on anyone, she'll probably not achieve room temperature anytime soon. My guess is she knows exactly that, she can do time in minimum security and hope to eventually get out, by keeping her mouth shut. So she will. Because she's aware of the alternative. And here's the thing. There are some people you and I have never seen, who are happy to make sure no one asks her, and no one offers her anything.
A super max actually offers more exposure to hard cases, with nothing to lose, willing to do anything for a price. Bad things still happen in a super max. I wish she, and thousands of others, were at least doing hard time in one.
I figured when she was convicted, and no one else was even charged, that the fix was in from the DoJ/CIA/"intelligence community" (you know, the "it's not Hunter's lap top, it's 'russian disinformation' community) and nothing was going to happen. It sucks. I hate it.
In all honesty, I think several agencies are way out of control. And like any "operation" that massive in size, even the president/ceo/chairman has nowhere near the control you think he does. The federal government is so far beyond the restrictions of the Constitution, and the citizens have allowed it, that things are being done that would anger any of us. And the abuse starts on the ground floor, with "junior agents" gleefully following orders. Just look around and see what they do right out in the open that defies decency, never mind the Constitution.
To be brutally honest, I'm quite disappointed in Trump, his cabinet/administration, and congress. I had hope for better from Trump, et. al, but was aware of the limitations. I really had little hope for congress, given who they chose for "leadership", people little or no better than the other side.
The fact is, even with the law passed and signed, I expected what we got, stone walling from DEEP within the DoJ/FBI, and the courts giving them cover.
I'm the guy who wants thousands of government officials and employees perp marched in orange jumpsuits and stainless shackles, for USAID fraud, Social Security/Medicaid/Medicare fraud, other money laundering and fraud, the plandemic, and a host of other things. I'm on board with capital punishment for a lot of their crimes, I'm a fan of the gallows, the guys who founded the nation thought it proper. You're just going to have to break the government down incrementally, from various directions, in order to make any of it happen. It's an irregular/asymmetric warfare thing, not a frontal assault.
And the media is fully complicit. "Sunshine as a good disinfectant", but you ain't gonna get the sun shining on it.
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: AKIron on June 14, 2026, 10:05:25 PM
And in other news.
If it is indeed over then expect another sharp drop into the 50's or better very soon.
• "the US would immediately begin releasing billions of dollars in frozen Iranian assets and waive sanctions on its oil exports, in return for Iran opening the strait.
• "Iran's nuclear program would be addressed during a 60-day period of talks.
• "discussion of possible war reparations for Tehran and dropping longstanding US demands for limits on Iran's missile program."
• "Israel ... has not been part of the negotiations. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his country would not be party to the agreement."
Title: Re: Idiocracy again..
Post by: CptTrips on June 15, 2026, 05:09:51 AM