You think Bush got pwned tonight?

[TheDudeDVant]

Kerry feels we should offer the same deal to Iran....like I said, fool me once.

martlet can sell you that easily Rude?

Understand that Iran, as is proven, was going to get the material one way or another. Kerry offered an idea that could have given the US more control and knowledge about that material. Whats better for the US, a small measure of control, or no idea???

[Martlet]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Ya, made up futures about Iran's future. You have no idea, same as the rest of the world, what would come from it.

Ahhh, you're one of those guys that keeps putting their hand in the fire thinking one of these times he might not get burned.  I do know what the future would bring.   They got nuclear materials.  Look what they did with them.

Is NK the only country we have given nuclear materials to? I dont think so..

What other rogue nations have we given nuclear materials to?

One bad apple does not dictate the rest..  Ya, foolish attempts at spin and made up futures.. keep making your fictionous points martlet...

Is that how it goes in moonbat land?  If we keep doing it, someday we'll get good results?  That works fine when your planting a garden.  Not so well when you're giving nations nukes.  That's exactly why Kerry in the White House would make the world a more dangerous place for us.

Understand that Iran, as is proven, was going to get the material one way or another. Kerry offered an idea that could have given the US more control and knowledge about that material. Whats better for the US, a small measure of control, or no idea???

Control like we had with Korea?  How did that turn out again?

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by Martlet
Ahhh, you're one of those guys that keeps putting their hand in the fire thinking one of these times he might not get burned.  I do know what the future would bring.   They got nuclear materials.  Look what they did with them.

 


What other rogue nations have we given nuclear materials to?



Is that how it goes in moonbat land?  If we keep doing it, someday we'll get good results?  That works fine when your planting a garden.  Not so well when you're giving nations nukes.  That's exactly why Kerry in the White House would make the world a more dangerous place for us.

 

Control like we had with Korea?  How did that turn out again?

What part about they ALREADY have the material do you not understand??

Clearly I was wrong before, your not a fool; your a slave!

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Great joke on the UN's expence. Funny how you dont see anyone on this board actually talk about how well the UN sanctions work. Need proof? Its all right here infront of you and for certain the biggest blunder of our generation.

The UN sanctions worked in Iraqi as is proven with the lack of WMDs inside the country. For all practical purposes, SH had disarmed and he was NO threat to us or any surrounding country.

Odd. I see nothing of the sort.
Absence of evidence is still evidence of absence.

No, NK is a prime example of how well Sanctions and containment work.
Its people are starving and NK has nukes.
Now THERE is a blunder

Yup, worked real well
 
As my father used to say during the cold war
"Eat drink and be merry. For tomorrow you may be radio active"

[TheDudeDVant]

Did the UN place sanctions on NK or just the US??

[Martlet]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
What part about they ALREADY have the material do you not understand??

Clearly I was wrong before, your not a fool; your a slave!

You clearly are trying to scramble out of your box.  First you say I can't see the future, then you say it isn't the future, it's the present.  

You've been watching Hanoi John for too long.

[mars01]

Odd. I see nothing of the sort.
Absence of evidence is still evidence of absence.

No, NK is a prime example of how well Sanctions and containment work.
Its people are starving and NK has nukes.
Now THERE is a blunder

Hey Dred,

The one good thing about the debate last night is at least NK is now getting some real attention.

Yes NK has Nukes even though sanctions were levied.  Though the sanctions did not stop them from getting Nukes they may have helped to prolong the process.  Sanctions worked in Libya.

What is next then for NK?  Do you think not having communications is a beneficial strategy?  China is not against us having bilateral talks.  I would thing if the talks are used to bring a unilateral discussion to the table then there would be some merit to them.

I do agree no more deals can be made between Kim and us.  But something has to be done.  This is the same thing Bush did with Osama pre 911.  Ignore it until it blows up in our face.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by mars01

I wish we focused our energies on completing the mission in Afghanistan, capturing Osama Bin Laden and keeping the proliferation of nuclear materials in check.  

what makes you think that energies are not being expended on the capture of Bin Laden.
simply because its not being talked about in the news does not mean its not being done. In fact its probably better that way.
Had everything been focused on Bin Laden you would have all the media attention in Afghanastan and probably geraldo Rivera  and every other journalist in the world would be trying tpark himself outside of bin ladens doorstep 3 days in advance so as to catch the capture on film.

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by Martlet
You clearly are trying to scramble out of your box.  First you say I can't see the future, then you say it isn't the future, it's the present.  

You've been watching Hanoi John for too long.

Wrong again.. let me quote myself:

Wrong again.. kerry only illistrated his desire to attempt that the US have more control over what fission materials Iran recieves.. THEY ALREADY HAVE IT YOU SEE>..

Understand that Iran, as is proven, was going to get the material one way or another. Kerry offered an idea that could have given the US more control and knowledge about that material. Whats better for the US, a small measure of control, or no idea???

sure sure martlet.. but the fact is they have all the fisson material they need.. Kerry was not proposing anything new for them.. They ALREADY have it.. Kerry's only point was its too bad we have a short sited administration that has now placed us in a postion inwhich we have absolutely no control over. In his idea we could have had at least a small measure of control over what they do with said material or even how much they have/get.

In martlet world this makes kerry want to give Iran nuclear weapons.. Doesnt matter they already have the material..

[Martlet]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Wrong again.. let me quote myself:

Here, let me quote you too.

And thanks for proving my point again.  You should take a nap and spare yourself further embarrassment.

Ya, made up futures about Iran's future. You have no idea, same as the rest of the world, what would come from it.

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by Martlet
Here, let me quote you too.

And thanks for proving my point again.  You should take a nap and spare yourself further embarrassment.

Whats your point? I see none here..  I said that and I still agree with the statement..

[Martlet]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Whats your point? I see none here..  I said that and I still agree with the statement..

If you can't follow the own tangents you try to take your failed arguement, don't expect me to help.

You've proven my point for me yet again.

Thanks!  

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by Martlet
If you can't follow the own tangents you try to take your failed arguement, don't expect me to help.

You've proven my point for me yet again.

Thanks!  

LoL I love it.. You dont even attempt to argue your initial foolish spin. You just start making watermelon up from thin air!!  cya later martlet

[Martlet]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
LoL I love it.. You dont even attempt to argue your initial foolish spin. You just start making watermelon up from thin air!!  cya later martlet

I don't blame you for bailing either.  You've been trying to make that lame argument stick for 2 pages now.  You must be getting tired.

Thanks for proving my point on your way out, though!  

[Skuzzy]

I think this episode of "TheDude and Marlte" show can come to end now.

Topic?  What topic?