Biased Judge

[lazs2]

what are you missing?   the judge made no distinction bettween legaly killing deer and poaching them.   Here concern was that the beutiful animal who looked so good alive should not be killed by anyone.   The brother she gave the speech to was not being accused of poaching.  She was berating him for his ability to kill a deer under any circumstances.

she also showed species prejudice because I am sure she was wearing leather shoes and carrying a leather handbag and is probly eating some meat product as we speak.

lazs

[Leslie]

Originally posted by lazs2
leslie... you have it wrong... no one like poachers.. the judge was not berating poachers she was berating people who would kill a cute little deer.

She was talking about how could anyone see a deer in the wild alive, with it's little beating heart, and snuff it out... she was talking about people who hunt deer... not poachers...

This newspeak is too much for me... it is like the people saying that kerrie was making a joke about Bush when he said that if you were not smart and didn't do your homework and finnish school... you would be sent to Iraq,

lazs

I realize that Lazs.  As a judge, she is misguided in that respect.  What I don't like is the popular opinion that these guys' rights were somehow abused.  How can a guy caught poaching start talking about hunter's rights with a straight face?  That's ridiculous.  Even more ridiculous is informing a judge in court what the law is.  Does anyone get away with that?

Oh well, guess I'm not gonna convince anyone that no one was right in this whole deal.  One point here is judges can and do rule sometimes according to the mood they're in that day.  She was biased against hunters.  And rightly did not preside over that case.  Though I would not expect an unbiased judge to have reacted any differently in regards to the contempt of court.

I don't like anti hunting, anti gun and anti freedom folks any more than you do Lazs.




Les

[Mini D]

Originally posted by Leslie
I realize that Lazs.  As a judge, she is misguided in that respect.  What I don't like is the popular opinion that these guys' rights were somehow abused.  How can a guy caught poaching start talking about hunter's rights with a straight face?  That's ridiculous.  Even more ridiculous is informing a judge in court what the law is.  Does anyone get away with that?

That was not the person on trial. It was his brother. And he seemed to be responding to the rhetoric being levied, not the charges. And... he decided to leave the court room, but was brought back by an overzealous judge that resented the fact her preaching was being ignored.

You do realize this... right? You do realize that the judges bias towards hunting in general would bias her judgement in the trial... right? It would bias her sentancing because she was sentancing for two crimes, even though the defendant was being tried for only 1 crime.

The courts have become as nonsensical as the governement.

[john9001]

the man on trial did not shoot the deer, his friend shot the deer, the man on trial helped his friend to move the poached deer.

the man who walked out of the court room is the brother of the man on trail and was only a spectator in the court room and was not required to be there.

not being judgemental here, just keeping the facts straight.

[lazs2]

Thanks mini.... you put it much better than I did..  I thought I was clear enough but obviously not ....  you were much more clear.

No one likes a bully.. the judge was being a bully..  she was using the bully pulpit to give a philisophical speech on killing deer and went ballistic when people had the nerve to walk out in disgust.

And... I still say she eats meat and wears leather.

She is just the type of dumb ***** who would try to feed a wild animal by hand and get gored or bitten.  She probly believes that deer can talk just like in the disney movies.

lazs

[Leslie]

Agreed Lazs, Mini D, John.  In fairness to the guy who walked out, can't say I blame him for that.  It's just that hunters have to be careful nowadays.  I understand he was trying to support his brother and was not involved in the transporting of the deer.  I've got that straight now...finally.  DUH!!!  Thanks guys.

I'm a realist though.  I'm also glad she is no longer on the bench.  Hopefully the institution of hunting wasn't harmed by the public responses.  Media could twist and turn that into an anti hunting campaign.  That's my point.  Hell, I'm a hunter and I was a bit confused at first.  If it's about the judge being a bully, it would have been better to quietly get up and leave, not give her more ammunition.  If she's that prejudice, she might have been scared of him.  Predictable results, and for those in the public that don't hunt, probably all they're gonna see is a guy talking back to a judge and being in contempt of court.  It's how the public regards hunting and hunters that matters if hunting is to survive.

Since hunting is under attack and vilified by some courts, it is important to handle a situation like that without showing emotion.  Show emotion it's all over.  Watching the video my very first impression was boy is that guy dumb. Dunno if I could do it, but it has to be done.  




Les