HE-177

[frank3]

Agreed, it would be great to have the He-177, it still participated in a fair amount of operations, but it would be low on the list of aircraft-to-be-added.
Having a He-177 without engine-problems would be heaven!

[dragon40]

In response to sethipus’s remarks regarding wirble’s and attack dweebs.
This goes back to air power he who controls the sky’s controls the manner in which the battle on the ground is fought. Statements like this come from a lack of understanding wining tactics that win wars and or battles. The purpose of bombers was and is to take out strategic targets that lessen the enemy’s ability to fight or conduct war operations.
Fighter bombers have several roles in combat first to escort bombers to and from there targeted arias. Secondly to take out any fighter bombers that pose a risk to ground and or air elements. Thirdly to take out as much of the enemy ground forces as possible.  The role of ground forces is to physically poses and secures an aria and to take out what ever small pockets of enemy forces that remain. And to argue that the wirble would some how have a place in aces high yet not the HE-177 is a mute argument seeing that only 80 some wirbles were ever fielded as apposed to some 1000 plus HE-177’s that were produced and flown in combat operations thru out ww2. If you don’t want to get bombed or strafed then control the skies before you attempt your ground vehicle raids.

[FYB]

In response to sethipus’s remarks regarding wirble’s and attack dweebs.
This goes back to air power he who controls the sky’s controls the manner in which the battle on the ground is fought. Statements like this come from a lack of understanding wining tactics that win wars and or battles. The purpose of bombers was and is to take out strategic targets that lessen the enemy’s ability to fight or conduct war operations.
Fighter bombers have several roles in combat first to escort bombers to and from there targeted arias. Secondly to take out any fighter bombers that pose a risk to ground and or air elements. Thirdly to take out as much of the enemy ground forces as possible.  The role of ground forces is to physically poses and secures an aria and to take out what ever small pockets of enemy forces that remain. And to argue that the wirble would some how have a place in aces high yet not the HE-177 is a mute argument seeing that only 80 some wirbles were ever fielded as apposed to some 1000 plus HE-177’s that were produced and flown in combat operations thru out ww2. If you don’t want to get bombed or strafed then control the skies before you attempt your ground vehicle raids.

SCARY 
He actually read and typed off of a book! 

-FYB

[waystin2]

I say the A-5 version would be a good add.  Not sure what to say about it's well known problems and how this would affect inclusion into AH.

[Sakai]

Do-217 vastly superior twin heavy German machine in terms of historical usage.  The 177 was a flaming crap house that flew a few missions.  The D0-217 and the heavy Jus were workhorses built in greater numbers and seeing far, far more action.

Hell, the Italian 108 was a better plane and comes in early war.

Model, for Axis bombers, these first:

He-111
Sm 79
Do-217

And for the English:

The Wellington

[fullmetalbullet]

how about this one i dont think it has been asked for yet but it would be nice to have the focke wulf FW 200 condor http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/aircraft/reconnaissance/focke-wulf-fw-200-condor.asp

[fullmetalbullet]

In response to sethipus’s remarks regarding wirble’s and attack dweebs.
This goes back to air power he who controls the sky’s controls the manner in which the battle on the ground is fought. Statements like this come from a lack of understanding wining tactics that win wars and or battles. The purpose of bombers was and is to take out strategic targets that lessen the enemy’s ability to fight or conduct war operations.
Fighter bombers have several roles in combat first to escort bombers to and from there targeted arias. Secondly to take out any fighter bombers that pose a risk to ground and or air elements. Thirdly to take out as much of the enemy ground forces as possible.  The role of ground forces is to physically poses and secures an aria and to take out what ever small pockets of enemy forces that remain. And to argue that the wirble would some how have a place in aces high yet not the HE-177 is a mute argument seeing that only 80 some wirbles were ever fielded as apposed to some 1000 plus HE-177’s that were produced and flown in combat operations thru out ww2. If you don’t want to get bombed or strafed then control the skies before you attempt your ground vehicle raids.

if i remember corectly a wise man said bombers are used to win wars all by them selfs but its only with nukes that possible but todays technology alows B-2s to scare the diddly out of the enemy that they just give up.

[Sakai]

how about this one i dont think it has been asked for yet but it would be nice to have the focke wulf FW 200 condor

Yes, it's been requested.  It wasn't a heavy bomber, it was a long range recon piece.  It's like modelling the Lockheed Connie as a 4-engine bomber.  Better analogy, model teh Short Sunderland as a 4-engine "heavy".  The reason it was "the scourge of the atlantic" was it located prey for U-Boats with its range--range it could not achieve if it were armored up and carrying any load.  I think there were internal payload deficiencies due to design and it carried ord extrenally.  It was an anti shipping and transport plane mostly.  It dropped teh Hs-123(?) anti shipping missile later in the war. 

The guys who like German and Axis Iron pine for a true heavy:  it's not there.  Hands down best Axis heavy was the seldom used Piaggio P-108.  They made like 100 and had no strategy for employing them consistently (and could not make more--too labor intensive and expensive for Italy).  After that you go with German and Itai twin engied jobs.  The Cant 1007 and the Do-217 or Ju-288 and 388 are the best planes. 

The reason for modeling the He-111?  Decent payload, extremely wide usage, early war arena is good fit.

I'd want the Ju-52 before I'd want the He-177.