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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2003, 02:17:13 AM »
lol, Kiwi's armed then...just not now :)

Anyhow, didn't the NZ Army buy lots of lovely new LAV's from Canada?

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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2003, 08:34:51 AM »
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Yeah, like the Green POS aren't the real terrorists. And we should have jailed that criminal Sea Shepard guy for ramming KNM Andenes.

Btw. I thought the Argentineans had to jury-rig the Exocet's during the Falklands war. I remember reading how the French withdrew their support and refused to deliver the remaining missile order (only five missiles were delivered).


Yes they withdrew thier support after it hit the papers what they were up to.

I am amazed that they can even look the British in their eyes after what they did.

Oh wait they are French. They have had lots of practice.:p

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« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2003, 10:12:46 AM »
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Of course do not forget the French technicians arming the Exocet missles for the Argentina air force in the Falklands war.

Don't you just love the French. :mad:


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« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2003, 10:17:19 AM »
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Yes they withdrew thier support after it hit the papers what they were up to.

I am amazed that they can even look the British in their eyes after what they did.

Oh wait they are French. They have had lots of practice.:p


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« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2003, 10:18:38 AM »
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Iraq falls under the catagory of "Unfinished Buisness"

Also on the list of "Unfinished Buisness"..

North Korea
Yemen
France

;)

Patience, fellas. We'll get to yah.

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« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2003, 10:45:42 AM »
Funny it was all over the news here at the time.

I guess we are all just crazy North Americans who don't know anything while you French who sold them the missles are not trying to hide anything.

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« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2003, 03:00:22 PM »
yer becoming a one liner or too lazy to answer or more likely short of argument ?

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« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2003, 04:45:07 PM »
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yer becoming a one liner or too lazy to answer or more likely short of argument ?


Ok once again I have to write like I am making a thesis to prove a very well know fact. If your argument is the French are not two faced lieing back stabbing cowards who would stab their good neighbors the British in the back then I am afraid it is you that is full of Bull toejam.

From

Air & Space Power Journal - Fall 2002

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Approved for public release; distribution is unlimited.

Argentine Airpower in the Falklands War
An Operational View

Dr. James S. Corum

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The pilots of the 2d Escuadrilla, trained in France in 1980–81, were fully qualified with the aircraft. However, at the time the conflict in the Falklands began, only five of the Super Etendards and five Exocet missiles had been delivered from France. The Common Market nations and NATO immediately initiated an arms embargo on Argentina, therefore halting the French shipments of planes and missiles. Throughout the conflict, the Argentine government tried desperately but unsuccessfully to obtain more Exocets on the world market. Argentina would have to fight the war with only five Etendards and Exocet missiles. Since spare parts for the Etendards were cut off by the NATO arms embargo, the FAA decided to hold one of the five fighters in reserve and use it for parts to support the remaining four aircraft.

The Argentinians had no previous experience with antiship missiles, and the Exocet was a complicated and cranky weapon. The Argentinians experienced a lot of trouble fitting the Exocet launch system and rails to the Super Etendards. In November 1981, Dassault Aviation, owned by the French government and builder of the Super Etendard, sent a team of nine of its own technicians (and some additional French Aerospatiale specialists) to work with the Argentine navy to supervise the introduction of the Etendards and Exocets. Although France complied with the NATO/ Common Market weapons embargo, the French technical team remained in Argentina and apparently continued to work on the aircraft and Exocets, successfully repairing the malfunctioning launch systems. Without the technical help and collusion from the government of France—Britain’s NATO “ally”—it is improbable that Argentina would have been able to employ its most devastating weapon.18

18 Christopher Chant, Super Etendard: Super Profile (Somerset, England: Winchmore Publishing, 1983)., 48–49.

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« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2003, 01:48:16 AM »
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the French technical team remained in Argentina and apparently continued to work on the aircraft and Exocets, successfully repairing the malfunctioning launch systems. Without the technical help and collusion from the government of France—Britain’s NATO “ally”—it is improbable that Argentina would have been able to employ its most devastating weapon.18



WOW ! a conclusive proof ...

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« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2003, 02:52:08 AM »
Are French rethinking position on Iraq war?

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PARIS With a swerve in language that acknowledges the possibility of the use force in Iraq and emphasizes Feb. 14 as a due-date for Iraqi compliance with disarmament requirements, France seems to be recalibrating its position on steps that could lead to a war.
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« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2003, 11:40:03 AM »
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there, happy now ?


Hiya Saw!

Whelp... seems that France, realizing that we're gonna kick bellybutton on Iraq no matter what; have decided to be in on the ass-kickin party.

Wouldn't due to have shown that what France and the UN thinks is irrelevant  to our position in regards to the use of military force in this circumstance.

Am I happy??

Sure I am. The biblicly predicted plauge of Frogs is comming to Iraq.
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