The fun and exciting world of Michael Moore

[Pooh21]

I could care less about his views.
I don't like him as a person.
Just a methane producing mobile bag of crap

[crabofix]

No doubt, his Journalistic methods are not what I would called "honest".

Saw "bowling for columbine" and it was totally crap.
Ok, so, the man has a couple of points, This I have to admit. But he is pushing things to the very limit and the whole thing becomes a farse.

He is just another clown, making a seriuose problem a farse.

[ravells]

I think he's courageous and a genius at what he does.

Ravs

[AKWeav]

Im not saying I admire Cuba or socialism but some things are better over there and you should just accept that fact.

Yup, guess that's why hundreds risk their lives in rotted out hulks trying to get to the U.S.

Is only the view of the USA right ? If 100 other countries think different dont u guys think there might be a little bit truth into it ?

Would those be some of the same countries who thought herr Hitler wasn't really such a bad guy in '38-39?

[mora]

Originally posted by AKWeav
Yup, guess that's why hundreds risk their lives in rotted out hulks trying to get to the U.S.  

Some things weigh more than others.

[fffreeze220]

Allright no we come with the "beat to death" arguments eh ?
Allright what was about the slavery ? What was about native americans ?

My only point is that u americans feel pretty fast pretty pissed about "folks" that think different about something.
If u would act like the "world police" around the globe and if u would not have ur fingers in any conflict around the world there wouldnt be so much trouble with certain people.

Get me right i was not against removing saddam from his position, but hey did u really think its over after saddam has been removed ? I mean u guys are invloved in Isreal aswell. Didnt u learn from what u see ?
There u go with a 2nd Vietnam. Like i said and posted here in the beginning of the war. Vietnam got ur nutts again.

The point is most of the people in "these" countries think different. U care about when u die. Those people not. If they have a mission to bomb somehting they think they will come to the paradise and **** allahs sister. Thats the point. How to win against fanatic people ? As longer the fight goes as more brave US soldier leave their lives as more resistant will come up at home.

U guy have a real problem.

2nd point is.  Ur not welcome in Iraq. U should got it buy now. Why dont u let the UN handle it ? It is at least a try. Whats the reason against it ?
Because we did not give u a blank contract about the war ? Because if u would leave Iraq and the administration u would leave the iol behind. Its all about Oil, and the way to get controll about. Some of the facts in Moore's new Book are very interesting. U closed all Airports. The only persons who could leave US was ???? Who read Moore ?
The Saudi arabia King family. Thats really funny. Who got alot of their money in a US Oil company's ??? Bin Ladens family, the "good" 1's of them.

I wouldnt believe any "theorie" thats beeing told about 9/11 but what i believe are facts like Moore writes them in his Book. Its all based on articels in different newspapers and magazines aswell as books.

Its very sarcastic indeed, but at least he is critical.

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by fffreeze220
If u would act like the "world police" around the globe and if u would not have ur fingers in any conflict around the world there wouldnt be so much trouble with certain people.

 

Trouble, such as, oh...I don't know, an invasion of Poland?

You're right, we should not get involved in any conflict unless it directly threatens American Soil.

You're still pissed we spoiled that little "Paris Party" for you.

[fffreeze220]

Originally posted by muckmaw
Trouble, such as, oh...I don't know, an invasion of Poland?

You're right, we should not get involved in any conflict unless it directly threatens American Soil.

You're still pissed we spoiled that little "Paris Party" for you.

Most of the bigger countries have their "dark" periods that everyone try to forget.
what isnt the best thing in every case. Germany had the darkest of all, thats right. But i am a after war generation and since i am a "new"( some 1 please go and call Rumsfeld ) and modern european citizen i dont caremuch about germany anyway. I could live in France or spain or Italy. Nothing holds me tight to germany. So dont try to get me hooked on these "39 to 45" arguments.
I wasnt born there so i dont have to take responsibility.  In no way.
plus i dont care to much because i am sick of hearing complaints about it.
If u wold live here in germany u would know what i am talking about. Be critical about immigrants and u are faster a Nazi then u can can think of.

We have a jewish organisation here in germany that stands up for their rights. Get it please, 60 Years after the war. 2 generations later the only thing the do is to run around with the finger pointed on every person that "might" be suspect. Their vice president, Germany's moral officer #1, got caught with prostitutes and cocain 4 month ago LOLOLOL I was laughting my arse off.

The hoel topic is sick. And annoying, pretty much annoying.

I hope after the generation that has the power now dies away, it will get better.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by crabofix
No doubt, his Journalistic methods are not what I would called "honest".

Saw "bowling for columbine" and it was totally crap.
Ok, so, the man has a couple of points, This I have to admit. But he is pushing things to the very limit and the whole thing becomes a farse.

He is just another clown, making a seriuose problem a farse.

Why did you write this post? Dont you know we are supposed to disagree on everything?  

[ravells]

2nd point is. Ur not welcome in Iraq. U should got it buy now. Why dont u let the UN handle it ? It is at least a try. Whats the reason against it ?

If these people are going to drive truck-bombs into Red Cross hospitals, i don't think that they are going to suddenly stop attacks on 'occupying' troops merely because they're wearing blue berets. The UN will equally not be welcome in Iraq by the people currently attacking troops.

The US has much better command and control and is a much more cohesive force than the UN could ever do. All in all, I think that US troops are doing a pretty good job over there.

Ravs

[lazs2]

he knows that there is a large group of gullible liberals out there and that some of em are powerful... he has figured out how to tap into that resource.   he uses his looks and hygene as a tool to play on the guilt of them... He is probly smarter than the fellow liberals he is conning.   If he ever steps off the path he will be out tho... it is a simple cycle.

 in the case of the goosesteppers... well.... no matter how badly written... can an anti American book fail there?

lazs

[Capt. Pork]

Originally posted by mora
Well his points are 100% correct, why do you even try to deny them?

Btw doctors do get paid even in socialist coutries and a lot more than an average worker. If there is a single good thing in socialist countries it is their high standards of university education, which is the SAME for everyone. I would take a Cuban doctor anyday over an American one if I don't know his background.

Im not saying I admire Cuba or socialism but some things are better over there and you should just accept that fact.

Some things are better under a socialist dictatorship? Maybe the weather, but that'a about it. Have you ever been to an American Doctor? Have you ever been to a Cuban doctor? Have you ever been to Cuba? I was born in Russia myself, in the late seventies, and got to live their long enough to know that socialist doctors(of which my parents were two until we moved to the US), while well educated, are overworked beyond their levels of compensation, under-supplied and understaffed for the most part. Here they are happy, well fed, well compensated and guess what, one of them pisses you off, well our litigation-happy legal system will help you out in suing them to the tune of whatever you want. My father, a neurosurgeon in Delaware, gets paid well, but also pays a quarter million a year in malpractice insurance--which is actually below average for that state. It's overzealous but it's also quality control. Scumbag malpractice attorneys are generally very well educated in the field of medicine. It creates something we like to call checks and balances. What happens in Cuba when a surgeon leaves his pincers in your chest? Our biggest culprits here are health insurance providers, who like to play both sides against the middle and rake it in in the process.

Moore is just a bloated yellow journalist and you're somebody who buys into his material. Except THAT fact.

[fffreeze220]

Originally posted by ravells
If these people are going to drive truck-bombs into Red Cross hospitals, i don't think that they are going to suddenly stop attacks on 'occupying' troops merely because they're wearing blue berets. The UN will equally not be welcome in Iraq by the people currently attacking troops.

The US has much better command and control and is a much more cohesive force than the UN could ever do. All in all, I think that US troops are doing a pretty good job over there.

Ravs

I did not mean they doig a bad job.  But they are, as americans, not very welcome.
European troops migt solve at least that problem.

[Capt. Pork]

Originally posted by ravells
I think he's courageous and a genius at what he does.

Ravs

I hope you're kidding. He has security around him everywhere he goes, off camera, of course, and a tidal wave of mindless fans there for moral support. As for genius, well, yeah, sure. He's great at making a salable product--which we've mentioned already.

I could care less about his views.
I don't like him as a person.
Just a methane producing mobile bag of crap

Best quote yet on this thread.

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by fffreeze220
I did not mean they doig a bad job.  But they are, as americans, not very welcome.
European troops migt solve at least that problem.

Ffffreeze-

If you believe that, you have not been paying attention.

The resistance to the occupation is being carried out by a group that has murdered fellow Arabs/Muslims suspected of working with the American's.

The people we are fighting in Iraq will happily kill you and your family if given a moments chance. Accept that.

It is not enough to be Muslim. It's not enough to be an Arab. You have to be the kind of extremist these people are for them NOT to attack you.

Europeans would not fare any better. Neither would the UN.