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Offline ravells

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« Reply #60 on: November 24, 2003, 02:17:53 PM »
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typical european, supporting and protecting these types of people by proxy. Probably because they fear them.... [/UNQUOTE]

Yeager...the topic was whether suicide bombing could be considered courageous...not whether we agree with it when it is done to our troops.

But don't you think the best way of minimising the chances of a nuclear device being detonated by some terrorist in any western city is to win hearts and minds rather than dehumansing an entire people by calling them 'ragheads' and advocating their extinction (as some here seem to believe) because of the acts of a few?

Don't you think that taking that approach will increase the incidences of terrorism?

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« Reply #61 on: November 24, 2003, 03:19:24 PM »
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typical european, supporting and protecting these types of people by proxy. Probably because they fear them.... [/UNQUOTE]

Yeager...the topic was whether suicide bombing could be considered courageous...not whether we agree with it when it is done to our troops.

But don't you think the best way of minimising the chances of a nuclear device being detonated by some terrorist in any western city is to win hearts and minds rather than dehumansing an entire people by calling them 'ragheads' and advocating their extinction (as some here seem to believe) because of the acts of a few?

Don't you think that taking that approach will increase the incidences of terrorism?

Ravs [/B]


You do understand it's Chuck you're talking to and of course that big fluffy tu-tu wearing sissy would fully agree with you, after the smoke clears that is.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #62 on: November 24, 2003, 03:20:14 PM »
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I know some real good people who are canadian.  None of them are french canadian though and dont seem to hold their french cousins in any sort of respectable esteem.

Pongo comes off as contentious malfeasoned french canadian.

Just curious.


That really increased the average IQ of this thread. :rolleyes:

What did the big bad French Canadians do to you, or your Canadian friends, to make you hate us so much? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #63 on: November 24, 2003, 03:26:05 PM »
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Did you forget about Kuwait? Do you think the US wasn't very patient towards Iraq, giving them every opportunity to live peacefully while abiding by their agreement to?


That is strange. I saw on 60 minutes that Kuwait was invaded after the US ambassador was asked and replied that the US didnt care what happend to Kuwait.  The US had approved of and supported previos aggressive acts on soverign states by Iraq.  this has been known for over a decade. Why do Americans still talk about the "blind" aggression of Iraq as if they were not a party to it?

Who has Iraq not lived peacfully with? Since the Gulf war how many countries has the US had miltitary operations against? How many has Iraq had military operations against?

Iraqi boys that are 18 years old now were 5 or so during the Gulf war. They have seen their country held down by US military might for their whole rememberd lives.  They have felt that national helplessness that will fill the ranks of the resistance for as long as the US decides to stay in that country. As resistance is demonstrated to be far from hopless, but in fact quite plausibly effective.

Did Sadam blame things on the US that were the fault of his goverment..I would imagine he did. Does that mean that there is no actual basis for a young Iraqi man that has grown up in the shadow of no fly zones to hate the US enought to resist the occuption. No it doenst .

Muckmaw. I am critising the actions of your goverment. I thought that was ok in democrocies? It is in ours and it was in yours..what changed?
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« Reply #64 on: November 24, 2003, 03:33:12 PM »
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The military official said that while an initial military report had said that the men's throats had been cut, further investigation revealed no evidence of such wounds. The military official said that the men had been pulled from the car, presumably to make it easier for Iraqis to rifle through the men's clothing and steal their possessions. The men were robbed of their personal belongings, the official said, including their guns. But they were not dragged through the streets, the official said.


Full story:
U.S. Retracts Report of Soldiers' Bodies Being Mutilated
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Offline muckmaw

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« Reply #65 on: November 24, 2003, 05:31:27 PM »
Bighorn-
 

That Article came from the New York Times?????
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« Reply #66 on: November 24, 2003, 07:39:13 PM »
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That Article came from the New York Times?????
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Yes. Does it matter?

edit: If its too liberal, here's the same from the right...http://www.fox23news.com/news/world/story.aspx
« Last Edit: November 24, 2003, 07:45:50 PM by 2bighorn »
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« Reply #67 on: November 24, 2003, 08:30:53 PM »
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That really increased the average IQ of this thread. :rolleyes:

What did the big bad French Canadians do to you, or your Canadian friends, to make you hate us so much? :rolleyes:



Freedom Fries! Freedom Fries!! Nannar nannar nannar!!!
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Offline mrblack

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« Reply #68 on: November 25, 2003, 02:48:38 AM »
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Hmm let's see:

Man gets into an aeroplane packed full of explosive and flies it into a ship.

Man gets into a truck packed full of explosive and drives it into a building.

One believes he is dying for the glory of his emperor, the other believes he is dying for the glory of his god. Either way, both know they are on a one way mission.

Seems to me that both are equally corageous and/or indoctrinated.

BTW From Buddhism, Bushido gets its relationship to danger and death. The samurai do not fear death because they believe as Buddhism teaches, after death one will be reincarnated and may live another life here on earth.

Well, OK one lot believe they get another life on earth and the other believe they get to sleep with a new virgin every night in heaven.

Same difference to me.

Ravs


The difference being The Japanese kamakazi pilots attacked military targets.
As to where these arse whipes blow up women and children in the name of alah.
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« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2003, 03:09:24 AM »
A coward is someone who does not do something because of fear.

Bravery is doing a job even though one is scared.

Suicide bombers are not cowards.  They may not feel fear due to the immense brain-washing however.
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« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2003, 03:26:23 AM »
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In Iraq they are targeting military targets (like what this thread is about).


The Red Cross and Kofi Annan's offices are military targets.   check.
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« Reply #71 on: November 25, 2003, 05:13:51 AM »
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I don't fear them ... I don't need to.
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You will sure as hell fear them when they detonate a nuclear warhead in Wash DC or NY because the war will come to you in person.
 


and who told it to you ??
same authority that said, there are WMD in Iraq ?
Same authority , whitch said, that Iran have nuclear program focused on weapons ?


actualy did that authority said true at least once ?
did they ever apologize for lies ?

ahh im silly ... they already admited that evil guy in CIA gave wrong information to goverment... chmmm poor goverment didnt do nothing wrong, they do only the best   :D

how was mandatory report from CIA to congres about facts and iraq ? is it public document ?
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« Reply #72 on: November 25, 2003, 06:27:05 AM »
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Freedom Fries! Freedom Fries!! Nannar nannar nannar!!!


Call them what you want but they will always be French fries.

Yeager's comment was just racist anti French crap.
The French did not believe in going to war so Chirac decided not to go because he is already very unpopular.
They elected him because the other guy was an extremist.
Going to war could have caused big riots in France.

If the polls had shown that 80% of Americans were against going to war their would not have been one.
I dont see the difference, but maybe that is because I am French Canadian. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #73 on: November 25, 2003, 07:47:16 AM »
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Yes. Does it matter?

edit: If its too liberal, here's the same from the right...http://www.fox23news.com/news/world/story.aspx


Yes, it does matter, because I am very surprised the Times would really print that. It's much too good of a tool for the left to attack the administration with.

If the times printed something like this, it must be true.
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« Reply #74 on: November 25, 2003, 07:48:58 AM »
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Call them what you want but they will always be French fries.

Yeager's comment was just racist anti French crap.
The French did not believe in going to war so Chirac decided not to go because he is already very unpopular.
They elected him because the other guy was an extremist.
Going to war could have caused big riots in France.

If the polls had shown that 80% of Americans were against going to war their would not have been one.
I dont see the difference, but maybe that is because I am French Canadian. :rolleyes:


The presidents approval rating drops every time a soldier falls in Iraq. Does this mean he should pull the troops out to save his political arnold or commit political suicide and finish the job we started?

You know as well as I do you cannot run foreign policy based on poll numbers.
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