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Offline SOB

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« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2004, 12:42:16 PM »
Regardless of whether there's proof of him doing it or not, why is he automatically a bad person if he gave a speech with the Vitenam's flag as the backdrop?
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« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2004, 12:47:17 PM »
How would you feel SOB, if you where in the Hanoi hilton, and some gaurd came over and gave you a photo and played a tape of a US serviceman slamming the war in front of the flag the men who torture you every day serve under.


Yeah thats not bad at all....

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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2004, 12:56:02 PM »
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Regardless of whether there's proof of him doing it or not, why is he automatically a bad person if he gave a speech with the Vitenam's flag as the backdrop?


Yes he is.  How cool would it be for servicemen in the field if some whacko veteran gave speeches under a Japanese flag during WW2? Plus the fact that he cooperated so closely with Hanoi Jane - who gave even worse propaganda support to the Vietnamese by taunting US pilots by manning an NVA AAA gun during the combat years...  Both are awfuf things and tagen together they are utterly disgraceful.

And one more thing I was generally positive about Kerry among the the other democrats, that is until I read into this behavior more today...  What a creep.
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« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2004, 12:59:23 PM »
Here's a link to an op-ed piece listing some of Mr. Kerry's adventures in his post-Vietnam life. Some interesting reading, but of course it is an op-ed piece. I'd like to see some verification of the claims.

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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2004, 01:00:11 PM »
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Catch 22 with the Dem candidates this year.  No candidate has a hope of gaining any right of center votes ....


Won't matter what the Dem candidate represents or what he did, those right of center voters mostly like what Bush has been doing. He'll get their vote.


You can only get along for so long with an anti-everything stance - sooner or later the people will want substance - they will want to know what these candidates are for and "Get Bush out of office" isnt going to cut it after a few more states.


LOL, seems funny that as soon as there seems to be a Dem front runner, an anti-Dem here will pick something to hate about the current Dem front-runner. Seems no side here (left or right leaning) can claim to be innocent on this mud-slinging tactic.

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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2004, 01:02:48 PM »
And he is unscuruplously honest too!

"Throw as I say, not as I do:

On that same day he led members of VVAW in a protest during which they threw their medals and ribbons over a fence in front of the U.S. Capitol.
Kerry later admitted the medals he threw were not his. To this day they hang on the wall of his office."

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« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2004, 01:13:19 PM »
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Was this Vietnam War ever declared as such while the US was involved in it or was it recognised and declared by the US as a Policing Action?


The U.S. has declared war four times - 1812, spanish-american, WW1, and WW2

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« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2004, 01:15:05 PM »
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We've established this.
The only reason I can come up with is because it doesnt suit your point of view.


Saur,
Are you addressing these comments to me?

I was just commenting that the photo is a hack.

However, if you talking to me... I don't believe I'v made an opinion about Kerry - frankly, because I have none...

except,

now that I think about it, he looks, speaks, and behaves like all the other Democrat and Republican politicians.

They are very hard to distinguish... wait... nope... Republicans wear suit and ties when they are in public and jeans when they are on their multimillion dollar ranches.

And Democrats wear jeans when they are in public and go naked when they are on their pot smoking retreats in the national forests.

That's as much as I have manage to distinguish between them all...

What ever happen to Dean... you know the "I'm tired of being a Pin cushion" cry baby?

Unfortunately for Kerry the last thing he wants to be is first in Iowa, because Iowa hasn't predicted a democratic president in decades... usually, the guy who wins Iowa looses the race.

At least Kerry did something for his country and even saved a man's life -

Still he is a pond scum bottom-feeding maggot-farming lemon-pucker mother-trucking cattle-proding cat-milking master-of-his- own-doman brain-donoring fart-sniffing....

Now... what the heck was I talking about....

Sheesh...

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« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2004, 01:15:41 PM »
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How would you feel SOB, if you where in the Hanoi hilton, and some gaurd came over and gave you a photo and played a tape of a US serviceman slamming the war in front of the flag the men who torture you every day serve under.

Yeah thats not bad at all....

As I've never been in that unfortunate situation I can't begin to guess what would be going through my mind.  When I look at it now, were it real, I think "hey look, some dip**** in front of a commie flag" - the world's full of dip****s, so it really doesn't bother me one way or the other.  However, we all do stupid things in our life, and that doesn't make us bad people.
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« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2004, 01:21:51 PM »
GRUNHERZ: Yes he is.  How cool would it be for servicemen in the field if some whacko veteran gave speeches under a Japanese flag during WW2?

 How cool would it be for a serbian soldier decrying an unwaranted agression of his government from under croatian flag?
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« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2004, 01:21:52 PM »
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However, we all do stupid things in our life, and that doesn't make us bad people.


Wonderful politicians can change - GWB used to have alcohol/drug problems, but he's reformed now.  What a wonderul story of a tormented man overcoming his demons.    

Kerry has been accused of making a speech in poor taste 35 years ago, which makes him a scumbag for life.  NEVAR FORGET!

No double standard here.  Move along.

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« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2004, 01:26:00 PM »
This is hilarious!

This picture says it all!!

But its a fake!

So! It's just like the story I heard.

But you were mad at the picture!

So! I believe! I believe!!

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« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2004, 01:55:56 PM »
Got awfully quiet here.  

Still waiting on some facts about his speech - and no, "vets against kerry" won't cut it as a credible source.

Did you seriously not notice that the NV flag is in color, while Kerry is in black and white in the pic?   Come on.

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« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2004, 02:02:57 PM »
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Did you seriously not notice that the NV flag is in color, while Kerry is in black and white in the pic? Come on.


I just thought it was his camo blending in... :lol
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« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2004, 02:04:53 PM »
"Got awfully quiet here."

He and BGBMAW are formulating a massive rebuttal speech.

I for one can't wait to see it ;)