Dubya to Jump Shark

[Lizking]

And, if visiting your partner in a hospital is the issue, then it needs to be addressed from that aspect-talk to the hospital about your issue, not the legal system.

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by Lizking
And, if visiting your partner in a hospital is the issue, then it needs to be addressed from that aspect-talk to the hospital about your issue, not the legal system.

Exactly.  It should have nothing to do with marriage or the government.  You should be able to nominate who can visit you and who can make decisions for you if you are incapacitated.

[Kieran]

Oh, and what Thrawn said.

I will honestly debate anyone that has an actual desire to discuss, and I don't run from my viewpoint. OTOH, there is little reason to attempt to engage someone in discourse who has already displayed a marked tendency to mock everything counter to his/her current viewpoint.

Thrawn and I have often disagreed, but I can honestly say he has never stooped to cheap shots to win a debate. I have to respect that. There are lots of guys that give me total crap about my views, but I can take that because they can balance the crap with some actual logic. So what if we ultimately disagree? I still respect them.

Then there are posters that offer nothing but vitriol. Nothing short of total agreement with their viewpoints will avoid immediate personal attacks. This is your category, Frogman. It isn't likely we'll ever agree on anything, and as you don't tend to handle disagreement all that well, ah... why discuss anything with you? Of course this will undoubtedly be met by one of your witticisms, but then, you'd only prove my point by doing so.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by LePaul
Along with Tax Cuts...its one of the few things he's done right.
He needs to re-think Immigration tho.

Hello tax cuts..goodbye social security...

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Hello tax cuts..goodbye social security...

Actually, he declared pretty emphatically today that he wasn't touching Social Security.

That was Greenspan's suggestion.

[rpm]

Actually, Greenspan said the massive deficit was going to bankrupt Social Security and he suggested 1 way of stopping it. Which President was it that spent the budget surplus and ran up the biggest deficit in history? Martlet, can you help me with this?

[Martlet]

Originally posted by rpm371
Actually, Greenspan said the massive deficit was going to bankrupt Social Security and he suggested 1 way of stopping it. Which President was it that spent the budget surplus and ran up the biggest deficit in history? Martlet, can you help me with this?

Sure, the only president in the last 10 years to take the war on terrorism to the terrorists, and then lower my taxes.

Explain to me how a deficit can bankrupt Social Security if you aren't spending the Social Security to pay back the deficit.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Martlet
Actually, he declared pretty emphatically today that he wasn't touching Social Security.
That was Greenspan's suggestion.

Nothing he says is his suggestion. WMD, bad intelligence, it's always someone else's stuff. Election year, of course he's not touching Social Security, but that's just my opinion.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by AKcurly
Don't know about the primates, but many animals mate for life.  What's even better, they don't cheat on their mate.

curly

Dolphins are known to engage in bisexual behavior...apes and chimps, too.

[Silat]

Originally posted by slimm50
Ditto

Do you guys really not understand our government? The judiciary isnt the final say. Lawsuits, appeals etc. The legislature and executive can make new laws if they disagree with the Judicial branch. The judicial branch can interpret the laws that are made. It is a circle that never ends which makes us great.
Some of you really are scary with the way you are blaming judges for anything you disagree with.
Here is a link to help you understand the workings of our government:)
http://www.congressforkids.net/Constitution_threebranches.htm

[rpm]

Originally posted by Martlet
Sure, the only president in the last 10 years to take the war on terrorism to the terrorists, and then lower my taxes.

Explain to me how a deficit can bankrupt Social Security if you aren't spending the Social Security to pay back the deficit.

We ARE spending money from Social Security to pay back the deficit. Do you live in a cave somewhere? Get informed Martlet.

[Frogm4n]

The administrations goal was to kill social security. What better way to do it then to bankrupt it.

[Thud]

Originally posted by Kieran
You are saying gays have the right to seek this privilege, and they do; the religious have the right to object, and they do.  

Marriage isn't a privilege, it is a citizen's right. Despite what you and other bigots may wish and strife for, gays are citizens as well. And no, the religious shouldn't have the right to curtail other citizens' rights.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by rpm371
We ARE spending money from Social Security to pay back the deficit. Do you live in a cave somewhere? Get informed Martlet.

Is the rpm bizarro world of civics?  How about a link?

[Kieran]

Originally posted by Thud
Marriage isn't a privilege, it is a citizen's right. Despite what you and other bigots may wish and strife for, gays are citizens as well. And no, the religious shouldn't have the right to curtail other citizens' rights.

Ow, ow, he called me a BIGOT. That'll stop me for sure- wait a minute, no it won't.

You quote me in the Constitution where it says marriage is a right and you win the argument. Go right ahead, I have all the time in the world.

From a legal standpoint (and that is the view you are arguing) it's a privilege, like driving. There are laws that govern it. You do not have the "right" to marry whom you choose under any legal system. Sorry.

Bigot- the most overused word in the liberal dictionary.