Author Topic: Bush's 9/11 Boasting Backfires (Read 2495 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #45 on:** March 04, 2004, 12:57:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Well then with that kind of logic i can start using the far christian right as sources for bush's politics.

jeez rip you really have no clue. moveon.orgs commercials are not what kerry represents just like jerry fallwell isnt what bush represents.

MoveOn.org, an advocacy group, has sought to energize opposition to the president by sponsoring a contest in which Americans were urged to produce an anti-Bush advertisement to air the week of the State of the Union address. Web site visitors were invited to vote for their favorite ad from a pre-selected group that MoveOn.org deems appropriate for TV. MoveOn.org informed potential ad makers that "we're not going to post anything that would be inappropriate for television." Two of the ads posted on the group's Web site compared Adolf Hitler to George W. Bush. One ad morphed an image of Hitler into President Bush and says that, "1945's war crimes" are "2003's foreign policy."

Whats worse, using 6 million dead jews to make your point, or standing front of a tragic event saying "I was here for you"

Martlet · « **Reply #46 on:** March 04, 2004, 12:57:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
There are alot more tastefull options.
Plus if 9/11 is all he is running on that is pretty sad. Its as bad as dean running on 'get bush out'.

Are you serious? In the months that followed 9/11, even the liberals were saying how well he handled it.

How quickly we forget. I think how he responds to an attack is just as relevant to this election as Kerry's voting record.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #47 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:00:07 PM »

like i said rip. Moveon.org does its own thing. John kerry isnt telling them to make those adds, just like bush isnt telling jerry fallwell and pat robertson to state that we deserved 9/11. If you cant distinguish different political oganizeations from one or another then hey i understand your pain.

rpm · « **Reply #48 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:02:51 PM »

Even in their response to the criticism you can see the compassion for the victims in their eyes.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #49 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:03:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
like i said rip. Moveon.org does its own thing. John kerry isnt telling them to make those adds, just like bush isnt telling jerry fallwell and pat robertson to state that we deserved 9/11. If you cant distinguish different political oganizeations from one or another then hey i understand your pain.

Thats because Kerry hasn't began yet. Just wait. You've set yourself up for the definition of bad taste. I'll reboot this topic sometime this summer or fall .

Frogm4n · « **Reply #50 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:05:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Are you serious? In the months that followed 9/11, even the liberals were saying how well he handled it.

How quickly we forget. I think how he responds to an attack is just as relevant to this election as Kerry's voting record.

Im not forgeting, but im also not forgeting how he screwed up our standing in the rest of the world shortly after 9/11 as soon as the blind patriotism wound down.

Bush didnt do anymore then Gulianni, Chirac or hell, Hillary Clintion. He got up in front of a TV read a speach written for him and then the US with the help of france,germany etc kicked the taliban out of afghanistan. All these extra little polictys have not made us any safer. They are just there for our own comfort.
If the FBI or CIA had actually followed protocal on 9/11 then it would never have happened.

There has not been another al queada attack on the US because they blew their load on 9/11.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #51 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:08:51 PM »

Let me ask you this:
Was there any untruth in the ad of Bush standing in front of the towers?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #52 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:10:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
There has not been another al queada attack on the US because they blew their load on 9/11.

Huh? Can you use some of your finer educational skills and speak english here?

Frogm4n · « **Reply #53 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:15:11 PM »

9/11 was a calculated event that took several years of planning to enact. To this day we have not discovered another such calculated plot against the US. Sure they have bombed many other places that are less secure across the globe, just as they had before 9/11.
When i say 'they blew their load on 9/11' i mean that they had no other plans to strike against the US in the near future. They are not very foward thinking people, and i believe they had no idea they would even be able to pull off 9/11. The more you look at the facts it amazes me that they accomplished it.

FBI and CIA had plenty of warnings, but ignored them because they didnt think they could pull it off with the security measures in place. And if the security measures in place were actually enforced they they wouldnt have.

Krusher · « **Reply #54 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:17:54 PM »

If it provokes this type of reaction from a Kerry supporter then it must be a good ad.

Did you know JF Kerry was in Vietnam !

Thrawn · « **Reply #55 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:19:08 PM »

Don't be foolish Rip. Is moveon the Domcratic party? No. Is the Republican party the Republican party? Yes.

john9001 · « **Reply #56 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:25:32 PM »

yawn ....just more boosh bashing by the neo-libs, there will be much more, it's 8 months to the election.

is hoolywood going to make a mini series about kerry's 48 days in nam? i like that part about the "bloody hand" reaching out to save his "band of brothers", alex baldwin can play kerry and barb strisand can be the nurse that heals his wounds.

Toad · « **Reply #57 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:31:57 PM »

YGBSM!

Wait till the TV ads really get rolling.

Anyone who thinks Moveon.org is totally divorced, separate and completely isolated from the DNC will no doubt believe that whatever "attack dog" organization the RNC uses will also be totally divorced, separate and completely isolated.

Yah, right.

Moveon is the old "plausible deniability" scam. The Republicans will have one too. They probably already do.

Both parties use "mouthpieces" to slam the other guy. That way they can claim they are taking the moral high ground in the campaign and not "going dirty".

They can go on TV claiming that THEY didn't say all that nasty stuff about Candidate X. It was those other guys who said:

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Yes, we're award that NastyGuys.org said Candidate X routinely has sex with underage, infected donkeys while his children watch. Our Candidate, Candidate Y (who is happily married with 3 perfect children) totally deplores such terrible attack ads. He is certain that Candidate X isn't HAVING SEX WITH INFECTED DONKEYS and hopes this charge of Candidate X HAVING SEX WITH INFECTED DONKEYS won't be repeated. Thank you.

While they simply DEPLORE the nasty guys saying that, they can understand the frustration. But of course, WE'RE taking the "high road".

Jeebuz...... tell me you guys are a bit more sophisticated and aren't really falling for that.

10Bears · « **Reply #58 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:32:03 PM »

George W. Bush - Strong leader for troubled times.

One is reminded of an article a few years ago about the fireman that set his own fires so he could be the hero of his community. In a way, Bush created the atmospherics for these troubled times he’s trying to rescue us from.

Terrorism?.. Bah!.. that was Clinton’s thing.. we’re more interested in missile defense.

Wouldn’t a more appropriate campaign slogan be “George W. Bush - Mistakes were made” Haha-- “George W. Bush” - Intelligence Failures are us” lol.. “George W. Bush for president - Because it’s not my fault”..

Outsourcing Boing beta tester jobs is GOOD for America!... Ha-ha-ha.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #59 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:34:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
YGBSM!

Wait till the TV ads really get rolling.

Anyone who thinks Moveon.org is totally divorced, separate and completely isolated from the DNC will no doubt believe that whatever "attack dog" organization the RNC uses will also be totally divorced, separate and completely isolated.

The difference is that this add is not done by the RNCs attack dog, but by the bush campiagn directly. Now if it was done by a RNC attack dog, then i wouldnt care.