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Offline Toad

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« Reply #75 on: March 04, 2004, 02:58:14 PM »
It isn't a question of who started it or the pot and the kettle.

If you do a bit of research, you'll find "attack ads" go wa-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-y back in American Presidential poltics. Certainly back to the days before television, even.

Remember Johnson's "daisy girl" ad against Goldwater? Peter Jennings, over video of the "daisy" ad: "With political ads like this one, that suggested Goldwater would get the nation into war with the Soviets, President Johnson buried him...."

Go here:


Daisy Girl

They have TV commercials from all the campaigns back to Eisenhower. Watch 'em all and you tell me who started it, ok?
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« Reply #76 on: March 04, 2004, 03:02:22 PM »
Tasteful?  It was a horrible situation. How's that going to be converted to tasteful?

As far as him dropping all other issues in order to focus solely on that one, I haven't seen any evidence of that.


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There are alot more tastefull options.
Plus if 9/11 is all he is running on that is pretty sad. Its as bad as dean running on 'get bush out'.
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« Reply #77 on: March 04, 2004, 03:32:27 PM »
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If you do a bit of research, you'll find "attack ads" go wa-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-y back in American Presidential poltics. Certainly back to the days before television, even.


Absolutely, no disagreement there.

My point... sorry for being so subtle about it.... the RNC, and even the DNC are not different than Moveon.org in their "political" adverts.

Well wait a minute... there is a difference. Moveon.org never aired that ad. The ads they were considering were submitted by their members and there was an automatic system for voting for them or against them and before someone could review this particular ad it had already been voted down. But still it was upon on their web site to be considered... and still the conversvatives are trying to get every mile out of it as they can -

A non-event that never happened.

However Willy Horton happened and so did the latest Bush ad.

I actually thought the ad Moveon.org wanted to show during the superbowl was rather good... you know the children working off the national debt. It was poignant because it's true. But since CBS is owned by the RNC... of course it was controversial... well aren't all potilical ads controversial?

If Bush would have shown his ad to a test group - I suspect he probably would not have used the 9/11 footage. But then his test group may be as skewed as his politics.
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« Reply #78 on: March 04, 2004, 03:37:35 PM »
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I think this place will be unbearable during the election.

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« Reply #79 on: March 04, 2004, 03:45:59 PM »
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« Reply #80 on: March 04, 2004, 03:46:04 PM »
I suppose it escapes you that even posting the ad as a "choice" can be viewed as an attack?

I could start a "happydaze.org" website and post some really slimey ads on it asking people to choose. Suppose it gets 1 million hits a week and people view all the ads. Is that negative advertising?

The DNC owns CBS? Come now. I think a publicly traded company, Viacom, owns CBS. Just how much of Viacom does the RNC own?

Oh, wait.. you're just regurgitating the moveon.org venom towards CBS refused to air ads created by their "Bush in 30 Seconds" ad contest.

Pssssssst. Hey, it's a conspiracy. Grab the tinfoil!!!!
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« Reply #81 on: March 04, 2004, 03:48:09 PM »
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Election day is easy... After the election... then the blame game starts... and the glueing shut of white house office drawers shut.... white out smeared on the computer monitors...

There is something to look forward too, no matter who loses... Ralph Nader will be blamed!
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« Reply #82 on: March 04, 2004, 04:13:30 PM »
Its exploitative of people's fears regarding terrorism, which is fine.  If Kerry were to run an ad that was exploitative of people's fears (say images of vietnam interspersed with images of Iraq along with home movies of some of the soldiers that have died in Iraq), you Bush strokers would be frothing at the mouth.

Personally, I hope the dems do it.  Better yet, show the same 9/11 footage, interspersed with the Bin Laden footage released post-9/11, and ask the question, "The man responsible for the death of 3000 Americans on 9/11 is still at large.  Why did we not make him our number 1 priority in the war on terror?"

Wheeee!  Whoever wins, this is going to be a hell of an entertaining election, heh.
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« Reply #83 on: March 04, 2004, 04:15:35 PM »
Did I really read that right, that some idiots think the President should have stayed in place during a coordinated strike against the political, military, and economic centers of power?
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« Reply #84 on: March 04, 2004, 04:30:10 PM »
"you Bush strokers would be frothing at the mouth."

Are you sure that's froth?:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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« Reply #85 on: March 04, 2004, 04:46:43 PM »
with the bullcrap move-on.org is throwing out there, the dems can't say anything about commercials...
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« Reply #86 on: March 04, 2004, 04:50:52 PM »
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Afraid to answer the question? No worries.

Okay, I'll make it easy for you. What exactly did Bush blunder on 9/11 or the few months that followed?


One way was by ignoring the complete plan provided by members of the Clinton admin. which included:
1. Kill Bin Laden
2. Create a department of Homeland Security
3. Support the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan with troops on the ground and covert ops.
4. Don't ignore terrorism.
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« Reply #87 on: March 04, 2004, 04:53:27 PM »
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One way was by ignoring the complete plan provided by members of the Clinton admin. which included:
1. Kill Bin Laden
2. Create a department of Homland Security
3. Support the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan with troops on the ground and covert ops.
4. Don't ignore terrorism.


LOL no comment:rofl
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« Reply #88 on: March 04, 2004, 04:55:14 PM »
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LOL no comment:rofl

LOL.. no kidding
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #89 on: March 04, 2004, 04:56:36 PM »
So, MT...... how long had they had this plan?
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