MK108 damage photos, please ?

[Hristo]

Please, does anyone have those famous MK108 damage photos against a Spitfire and a Blenheim ? The ones from British tests ?

If so, can you proovide the link ? I'd be very grateful...


Apparently, the crowd on Il2 forums suggests that it would take 3 or more MK108 hits to down a fighter

[hogenbor]

Apparently, the crowd on Il2 forums suggests that it would take 3 or more MK108 hits to down a fighter [/B]

I've seen the pic of the Blenheim. One hit to the rear fuselage and the plane was virtually shot in two. In flight it would have broken. Like to see what happens to a Spitfire though, although I know full well what happens in AH

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by hogenbor
I've seen the pic of the Blenheim. One hit to the rear fuselage and the plane was virtually shot in two. In flight it would have broken. Like to see what happens to a Spitfire though, although I know full well what happens in AH

Both the tests, Blenheim and Spitfire, were special test setups with the 30mm exploding inside the fuselage.


There is no ryme or reason for real life damage done. For example, 2 Spitfires hit by 20mm, one has an entre hole the size of your fist on one side and the other side has multiple schrapnel holes, while the other has the fuselage opened up simular to the Spitfire test, but not as bad (flew back to base). Look at some photos of B-17s (and other a/c) damaged done by flak. Some show damage no worse than multiple 20mm or 30mm hits.

Don't get hung up on the 1 shot = 1 kill.

[TimRas]

 

http://pages.ykt.ru/il2/Hronika/photohronika/30mm%20mk108%20on%20blenheim.jpg

[Hristo]

Originally posted by MiloMorai
Both the tests, Blenheim and Spitfire, were special test setups with the 30mm exploding inside the fuselage.


 

From the test

"(a) Cause - the 30 mm. MK 108 cannon, seen here with one of the explosive rounds it fired. This weapon was fitted in the upper nose of the majority of Bf 110s which saw action during the latter part of the war. (b) -and effect. The damage to this Spitfire was caused by a hit from a single explosive round from an MK 108, fired during a test on the ground."


says "hit" and "fired"

[Hristo]

thanks TimRas, just what I was looking for !

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by Hristo

says "hit" and "fired"

Writers licence. The shell was detonated inside the fuselage.

[Hristo]

Originally posted by MiloMorai
Writers licence. The shell was detonated inside the fuselage.

How do you know ?

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by Hristo
How do you know ?

Because I have seen the report.

[Hristo]

OK, I'm not trying to be a smartass here, but do you have a link or something similar ?

[Wilbus]

MiloMorai, please post a link to it, or info of where to find that report, book, homepage? Can't just say "Because I've seen the report".

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by MiloMorai
Writers licence. The shell was detonated inside the fuselage.

Well lets say thats true and you prove it with somehow.  It prolly still doesnt matter. Mk108 shells were "timed" as to only explode shortly after penetrating inside a plane. They did not burst on the surface like early war shells. So the effect is the same, whether fired at or placed in; as far as the shell knows its doing the same thing.

[Hristo]

a good site about MK 108 shells

http://www.sml.lr.tudelft.nl/~home/rob/me163/weapon15.htm

[Flyboy]

whats the different between the Mk103 and Mk108?

[Soulyss]

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