Why would europeans support Kerry?

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Eagler
because they can't stand anyone with principles & guts - especially Christian ones

The same principles that came up with crusades?

Main Entry: 1cru·sade
Pronunciation: krü-'sAd
Function: noun
Etymology: blend of Middle French croisade & Spanish cruzada; both ultimately from Latin cruc-, crux cross
1 capitalized : any of the military expeditions undertaken by Christian powers in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries to win the Holy Land from the Muslims

Ahhh, the good ol' days, when the pope would lead the charge!

[Nilsen]

Yes....if Kerry does the same thing that Bush has done the same thing will apply to him.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Nilsen
Yes....if Kerry does the same thing that Bush has done the same thing will apply to him.

So the USA must get France's approval to do anything in Iraq or to act in what American govt feels it's in the countrys best intrests?

Should france get American ammproval to run its military?

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Sixpence
The same principles that came up with crusades?

Main Entry: 1cru·sade
Pronunciation: krü-'sAd
Function: noun
Etymology: blend of Middle French croisade & Spanish cruzada; both ultimately from Latin cruc-, crux cross
1 capitalized : any of the military expeditions undertaken by Christian powers in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries to win the Holy Land from the Muslims

Ahhh, the good ol' days, when the pope would lead the charge!

more similar to this "Crusade"

"Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!
You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have
striven these many months. The eyes of liberty loving people everywhere
march with you. In company with our brave Allies and brothers in arms on
other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war
machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of
Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.

Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well
equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.

But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of
1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats,
in open battle, man to man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their
strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home
Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions
of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men.
The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to
Victory!

I have full confidence in your courage and devotion to duty and skill in
battle. We will accept nothing less than full Victory! Good luck! And let
us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great and noble
undertaking."

General Dwight D. Eisenhower
Order of the Day
June 6, 1944

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Eagler
more similar to this "Crusade"

"Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!
You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have
striven these many months. The eyes of liberty loving people everywhere
march with you. In company with our brave Allies and brothers in arms on
other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war
machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of
Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.

Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well
equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.

But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of
1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats,
in open battle, man to man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their
strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home
Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions
of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men.
The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to
Victory!

I have full confidence in your courage and devotion to duty and skill in
battle. We will accept nothing less than full Victory! Good luck! And let
us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great and noble
undertaking."

General Dwight D. Eisenhower
Order of the Day
June 6, 1944

No eagler, youre wrong....

I wish the German freedom fighters had won.

Now dont get me wrong, I fully supported driving the german army out of France and the other western European counytries. But when the Germans went home that should have been it. So really the invasion of germany was an unprovoked illegal attack by imperialst racist zionist usa troops. It was a shameful war for beer, to protect the intrests of giant american beer brewing corporations which donated generously to FDR and got him to repeal prohibition.. NO WAR FOR BEER!!! I really wish those german fredom fighters had won.. From the Rhine to Berlin to Fallujah to Berkely we are all freedom fighters...



BTW do the freedom fighters support Kerry?

[Nilsen]

Dont be silly Grun... USA does not NEED the aproval of France, Germany or Norway for that matter to go to war. Iran does not need aproval from the US or Belgium to go to war on Greece either.

But if you want to go to war and expect help or support from any of the countries you mentioned then yes.

Pretty obvious to me, Do you think that Norway should support USA just because we are both members of NATO or something?...does that make any sence at all? no it does not.

[Fishu]

Kerry is silly...  Bush is worse... almost like last elections, where the fight was between a dolt and a monkey.

[Westy]

"This would all just mean german, french etc troops in Iraq in supoort of this immoral war...  Isnt that what yiu guys are opppsed to?"


 I'd be all for that under Bush.  It's called an exit strategy and it begins a tactful withdrawal.

[storch]

The real issue seems to be that Euros have been relegated to irrelevancy by Mr. Bush's administrative policy and his convictions. *Gasp*  Lord knows that europe could in no way be irrelevent.  Thank you Lord for President Bush. God Bless America, God Bless England.  may these blessing overflow and pour forth upon our poor, misguided, socially experimenting weak little "allies"

[Nilsen]

Well said Storch. You just explained to everyone why the hatred towards the US grows.

[storch]

Thank you Nilsen *bows low while never taking his eyes off of the european foe hand firmly gripping his katana*

[Nilsen]

Cut my throat and my blood will stain your pretty dress

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Nilsen
You just explained to everyone why the hatred towards the US grows.

...in your mind.

You forgot to add that. Unless you claim to speak for all Europeans or something silly like that.

[Momus--]

Bush is a moron. That single fact is enough to warrant cheering a Kerry victory, well that and the sight of his moronic cheerleaders crying into their beer.

[lazs2]

I believe that the euros hate any president that is percieved to be strong such as Bush.  They fear any government that is not socialist.   The euros allways get all wet over very liberal U.S. presidents and presidential candidates... they feel, and rightly so, that they can badger weak, socialist presidents.

lazs