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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2004, 08:22:51 AM »
"Bush is a moron" claims the erudite Mr. (Ms. ?) Momus.  Clearly gentlepeople, we have committed a greivous error.  I move that on the basis of this euro's expert analysis we start a petition to lobby the congress to impeach and remove Mr. Bush from office immediately.

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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2004, 08:37:07 AM »
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I believe that the euros hate any president that is percieved to be strong such as Bush.  They fear any government that is not socialist.   The euros allways get all wet over very liberal U.S. presidents and presidential candidates... they feel, and rightly so, that they can badger weak, socialist presidents.

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Bush isn't felt as 'strong'. He is felt as 'dumb and dangerous'... The kind of feeling you get when a retarded kid is toying with a loaded gun 10 yds away from you...
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« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2004, 08:43:04 AM »
How is europe threatened by Bush?   Being ignored?  hardly dangerous.   We have checks and balaces here... might as well say that the American people are dangerous.  No... Bush let out the dirty secret on just how unimportant some of the little socialist enclaves are and how impotent their socialist governments are.

kerry is percieved to be weak and therefore socialist friendly.

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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2004, 08:46:15 AM »
I don't get this use of socialism giving you have no knowledge of socialism nor experience with it.

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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2004, 08:52:07 AM »
we have socialist aspects to our government... they are the worst parts.

euros and american women and socialists like kerry.

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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2004, 08:53:09 AM »
Bush is viewed as dumb?  well then we must replace him with someone intelligent... like Chirac!!! or safe like Aznar!!! that's it, before this election we should allow our clearly superior euro "allies" to help us select our national leader.:rofl

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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2004, 09:01:11 AM »
Storch I don't know who between Bush and Chirac is more intelligent.
The only certitude I have is that you've againt posted a very clever post I need to bookmark.

so much wisdom in so few lines I'm inpressed.

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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2004, 09:06:34 AM »
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I believe that the euros hate any president that is percieved to be strong such as Bush.  They fear any government that is not socialist.   The euros allways get all wet over very liberal U.S. presidents and presidential candidates... they feel, and rightly so, that they can badger weak, socialist presidents.



The strong Bush went to play his war games in Iraq, while alot of people outside US were against the war.
Bush continued to talk about the threats of WMD which Saddam has and literally called french "silly".
Seemingly alot of americans agreed with Bush, renamed french fries to freedom fries, talked about all the WMD hazards and insulted frenchies & europeans.

Then US invaded Iraq, overthrew Saddam's goverment and finally caught him too.
Meanwhile the objective suddenly had changed to liberation of Iraq and people were left wondering "WMD what?"

Recently alot of these pro-war people has began to object the war and many even wants the troops pulled out of Iraq.


HELLO, didn't these people know IT IS A WAR and those are not any products you can return to the store if you come to second thoughts!

Bush is yet to find his WMD and Iraq is more unstable than it's been for a while ;)
and in a single month theres been more US casualties than even during the major operations, while Bush is planning to give control of Iraq back to iraqis... supposedly for the democratic regime.

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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2004, 09:06:55 AM »
Hortlind..

"...in your mind.

You forgot to add that. Unless you claim to speak for all Europeans or something silly like that."

yes, in the same way that you proclaim to speak for the europeans with this statement:
Yeah, because to have a Pro US/Pro Israel-opinion these days sure is to go with the flow in Europe.
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« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2004, 09:12:16 AM »
so fishu.... How is anyone, including euros, any worse off by the U.S. invasion of iraq?   I will of course make the exception of the sadman and his family and a few "freedom fighter" organizations that got a cut in donations.

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« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2004, 09:24:09 AM »
Well lazs....having these kinds of discussions in the "real world" has made the world a more dangerous place for everyone.

After 9/11 the world was unified in the hunt for the real terrorism....the Iraq invasion has taken the focus away from Afghanistan and the hunt for Osama and the focus is now on Iraq.

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« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2004, 09:26:51 AM »
In response to the original question ... I think that they hope Kerry will institute big social spending programs, raise taxes to the European levels and see the US take a major nose dive into socialism ... thereby raising their status vs the current US world power status. ;) :D

Of course no one really knows what Kerry will do if elected he changes his mind more often than he changes his socks. :D
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« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2004, 09:34:41 AM »
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Of course no one really knows what Kerry will do if elected he changes his mind more often than he changes his socks. :D


Yes I know.  I might just vote for Kerry in November. I'd say the odds are pretty decent that he'll become a conservative republican if he wins...

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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2004, 09:38:15 AM »
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Well lazs....having these kinds of discussions in the "real world" has made the world a more dangerous place for everyone.

After 9/11 the world was unified in the hunt for the real terrorism....the Iraq invasion has taken the focus away from Afghanistan and the hunt for Osama and the focus is now on Iraq.







The basic response I have seen from some Eurpeans is that they would have had no problem with invading Iraq if only the US got a persmission slip from the UN......which makes little sense to me. The actual war part seems to be no problem to them.


I question that reasoning if that is the case.

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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2004, 09:43:44 AM »
Well Nuke.....if the UN had been behind this then the world would seem unified wouldnt it? Now the "bad" people see that we are divided and that is one of the objects of terrorism....to divide and spread fear.