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Offline strk

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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2004, 07:20:12 AM »
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Thus speaks a tardling with no idea how *any* global market works :rolleyes:


For Drunky - so you wont confuse me with Bob Woodward again

quote from cbs news
"Prince Bandar enjoys easy access to the Oval Office. His family and the Bush family are close. And Woodward told 60 Minutes that Bandar has promised the president that Saudi Arabia will lower oil prices in the months before the election - to ensure the U.S. economy is strong on election day."

Link -  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/15/60minutes/main612067.shtml

So far all I have heard is typical Bush*co response
1. deny deny deny
2.  attack the messenger
3.  attack the whistleblower

For the gentleman who thinks that he is just trying to sell a book (part of the deny deny crowd) - if your assumption is correct then we should expect Mr Woodward to be slapped with a civil suit for Libel and Slander, and an injunction halting the sales of the book.

BTW my post did not even mention the mis-appropriation of funds to lay the framework and planning for Iraq.  Congress had appropriated that money for Afghanistan, Bush*co used it for Iraq.  Such action is forbidden by the Constitution (no money from the treasury unless appropriated).

Sounds like a "high crime or misdemeanor" to me.  Time to start impeachment proceedings.  What did they say during the Clinton impeachment - No one is above the law

So I expect all of you who rallied in defense of the sanctity and honor of our highest office and supported the impeachment last time around to write your representative and demand articles of impeachment immediately.

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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2004, 07:25:55 AM »
Someone explained the Libel / Slander thing really easily to me.



No matter if you sue, win or lose, the writing will get more press and more attention.  Some people are actually stupid enough to believe it, even when it's under contention.


So what have you accomplished?  You might be a few million up right now, but your credibility is down and people will remember what was said.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2004, 07:49:31 AM »
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I guess drilling for our own is out of the question?
 


We've already been though this.  We cant take oil from the Mid East and we cant drill in Alaska because the reindeer would get pissy.

We need to find alternative fuels like... hemp oil and hair grease.


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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2004, 07:51:53 AM »
So, we've known for quite some time now that 60 minutes is an info-mercial for authors who's book need marketing....

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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2004, 07:59:41 AM »
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The solution - Nationalize all oil industry in the United States...we'd instantly see about a quarter off gas prices.


You do realize that the government, through taxes, makes more on a gallon of gas then the dealer, don't you?

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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2004, 08:10:53 AM »
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You do realize that the government, through taxes, makes more on a gallon of gas then the dealer, don't you?


Just found this tidbit:
Example of a $1.97 gallon of gas in San Francisco:
76 cents for the crude.
59 cents to ship and refine it.
40 cents for federal and state taxes
11.4 cents in sales tax.
10 to 12 cents for the station owner to pay rent, salaries, utilities -- and earn a profit.

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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2004, 08:35:29 AM »
so Bush went to a hostile, bitter little liberal reporter and told him of the scheme... er conspiracy... to raise oil prices now and then lower em right before the election?   and.....fortuitously.... he did all this just as the lttle whiny liberal was putting his book out?

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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2004, 09:01:16 AM »
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so Bush went to a hostile, bitter little liberal reporter and told him of the scheme... er conspiracy... to raise oil prices now and then lower em right before the election?   and.....fortuitously.... he did all this just as the lttle whiny liberal was putting his book out?

lazs


As a matter of fact... yes.

Bush was the only person in the book to allow himself to be quoted directly.

I watched the 60 Minutes report with my wife and oldest son. They both had a very different reaction. The impression they got was that GWB was attempting to lay blame for the Iraq War decision onto Tenet and Cheney. Tenet's "Slam Dunk" report on WMD to the President supposedly sealing the deal.
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2004, 09:13:28 AM »
It almost makes me think people just spew a ton of bull**** hoping that some of it would be true.

The media and strk have been shown to be the true instruments of modern politics.

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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2004, 09:34:46 AM »
some just  have to go up to their wrist while others sink up to their elbows to read the braille

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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2004, 09:38:42 AM »
Yes, of course!! and woodward is such an unbiased and reliable source.  naturally 60 minutes has no liberal agenda either.  If it's in the any of the mainstream news sources i don't believe it and in fact will probably look to the exact opposite of what is being said as the truth.  if it's on fox i'll take it with a grain of salt.

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« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2004, 09:57:17 AM »
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Originally posted by Momus--
Thus speaks a tardling with no idea how *any* global market works :rolleyes:


Hmmm the best you can do for a counterpoint is to resort to the tactics of a 5 year old and resort to namecalling.
Now theres a responce we can all take seriously:rolleyes:
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« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2004, 02:14:14 PM »
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So, we've known for quite some time now that 60 minutes is an info-mercial for authors who's book need marketing....



Yeah, and the No-Spin Spin Master and Hannity and Colmes never plug their own stuff on the Rupert Channel.

 Different side of the same coin, so call it straight.

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« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2004, 02:36:22 PM »
The sooner we get the Middle East to pump all the oil they have,

the quicker we can watch them try to export sand.

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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2004, 02:36:58 PM »
well.... I guess I will just have to top off all my tanks on election day just before I go to the polls and vote for Bush then.  thanks for the heads up.

lazs