Anniversary of Columbine High School shooting

[lazs2]

staby...  I am really having a hard time figuring out if you really believe what you are saying or if you are even paying attention to what you are saying.

There is NO evidence that a teacher or any other of the millions of concealed carry  permit holders have ever left a gun in a place where schoolkids could get ahold of it but..... even if by some chance that happened it is by no means certain  that finding a gun would turn a normal sane student into an out of control psyco..  and... you yourself have admited that simply having an armed person in the schools has suddenly made all the students sane and polite little boys and girls ...

really... think a little and use some observation instead of speculation...  it just doesn't happen that way... it happens the way I claim it does and the way you are observing  With the cop armed in your school..   Some schools even use "security guards"  are you saying that you trust a security guard more than a teacher who has went through the whole concealed carry process?

even more mindblowing was that when I went to school we would bring our rifles and pistols to school for NRA sponsored shooting/marksmanship safety classes... we were asked to not bring loaded guns.   The guns didn't force us to go on shooting sprees.  

The crap they teach kids these days...

lazs

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by lazs2
staby...  I am really having a hard time figuring out if you really believe what you are saying or if you are even paying attention to what you are saying.

There is NO evidence that a teacher or any other of the millions of concealed carry  permit holders have ever left a gun in a place where schoolkids could get ahold of it but..... even if by some chance that happened it is by no means certain  that finding a gun would turn a normal sane student into an out of control psyco..  and... you yourself have admited that simply having an armed person in the schools has suddenly made all the students sane and polite little boys and girls ...

really... think a little and use some observation instead of speculation...  it just doesn't happen that way... it happens the way I claim it does and the way you are observing  With the cop armed in your school..   Some schools even use "security guards"  are you saying that you trust a security guard more than a teacher who has went through the whole concealed carry process?

even more mindblowing was that when I went to school we would bring our rifles and pistols to school for NRA sponsored shooting/marksmanship safety classes... we were asked to not bring loaded guns.   The guns didn't force us to go on shooting sprees.  

The crap they teach kids these days...

lazs

Even with the armed officers we still had race riots and students beaten close to death. It by no means made any of the students act any different. Having armed teachers wouldn't matter. If a nut case wants to kill a bunch of people he will kill a bunch of people. Guns do not make people safer from that type of situation, but they do make people feel safer and more in control.

[lazs2]

wrong... in every case where a gun was used against school shooters the violence stopped.   These kids or adults are not as insane as you would llike to believe or have been told... when faced with the possibility of getting shot they give up or run away.

I do not advocate shooting students who are fighting unless it is the last resort where nothing else could be done to save an inocent person from an agressor.

lazs

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by lazs2
wrong... in every case where a gun was used against school shooters the violence stopped.   These kids or adults are not as insane as you would llike to believe or have been told... when faced with the possibility of getting shot they give up or run away.

I do not advocate shooting students who are fighting unless it is the last resort where nothing else could be done to save an inocent person from an agressor.

lazs

The kids in columbine went in there intent on dieing. Thinking that maybe the teachers may or may not have guns would not have stoped them. I see no problem with allowing a teacher a gun in school, but they would have to go through the same training as an officer of the law or any other government employee that is issued a firearm.

[Lizking]

Even with the armed officers we still had race riots and students beaten close to death.

Show me the news stories.  I don't believe you.

[strk]

Originally posted by lazs2
yep... there are evil people out there folks... making sure the populace is unable to defend against em is never a good plan..

contrast the outcome with the outcome in schools where the sheep reacted with a firearm in their hand instead of a rule book that told em there were no firearms allowed.

lazs

Tell me more about this Lazs

[strk]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Proof that kids need parents, and that your careers should never stand between you and nurturing/raising your children to be the best they can be.  To limit what violence they are exposed to involving video games, what they watch on TV, and monitor their every move.  Be intrusive. Know who their friends are.  

Too bad they may hate you for a few awkward teenage years, they'll thank you later on in life.

THIS is one of those few moments when the planets align and I agree with Rip

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by Lizking
Even with the armed officers we still had race riots and students beaten close to death.

Show me the news stories.  I don't believe you.

You want links to stuff that happned 10 years ago?

[strk]

Originally posted by dweebespit
Word:


If you want to blame Columbine on someone, how about going after good ol Eric and Dillion.


Parents, sure they're responsible for the upbringing of their kids, but do you really believe that going columbine (heh---couldn't resist) is something that was the result of poor upbringing?  Like had they read to the kids more this wouldn't have happened?  Let's try not to lose sight of the gravity of what we're talking about more.


snipage

Most recently we got that dribble from Mike Moore blaming it on the media.  



All wrong folks....it was just two way crazy kids.

I'd bet that 90% of their problem was poor parenting.

[Nefarious]

I had skipped High school that day...

Me and couple friends were in the local pizza joint, when flash news hit the screen, The first footage we saw was of School Busses that said "Jefferson County Schools"...

And because of the Music the TV was on mute, We couldnt tell until they showed a map, We then realized it was Jefferson County Colorado, Not West Virginia.

As for Teachers with guns....NO.

Increase Security at schools by putting Police officers, security guards, and camera's.

Not teachers with guns.

[BGBMAW]

"Society is Safer When Criminals Dont Know who is Armed"


god i would like to torture those bastrds...disgusting


http://www.crpa.org


Love
BiGB
xoxo

[Sandman]

The fact that you would like to torture anyone hints at problems of your own...

Then again... I'm not a doctor.

[Lizking]

Nah, don't bother, I'm sure that you are all "gangsta'd up".

[Shuckins]

Teachers in Israel are armed...heavily.  You do NOT hear about them going berserk and slaughtering their students.  

What's more, the populace sees nothing wrong with this.  In a region where terrorist attacks have been commonplace for more than 50 years they have entrusted their teachers with deadly firepower so that the maniacs cannot simply walk into their schools and start blasting away.

Would armed resistance have saved lives at Columbine?  You bet your sweet arse it would have.  Almost any normal adult can be trained to handle a firearm in a responsible manner during a crisis situation.  Unless, of course, one's left leg is too long.

Regards, Shuckins/Leggern

[GRUNHERZ]

FREEDOM FIGHTERS!!!!!