Author Topic: More to Nick Berg than meets the eye? (Read 1783 times)

Saurdaukar · « **on:** May 12, 2004, 03:23:14 PM »

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4953015/

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On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military. The next day Berg was released. He told his parents he had not been mistreated.

But Senor, speaking Wednesday in Baghdad, told reporters that Berg was detained by Iraqi police in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul. The Iraqis informed the Americans, and the FBI met with Berg three times to determine what he was doing in Iraq.

Interest twists to the story. I found myself wondering about the nature of the relationship between Berg and those who killed him. Perhaps we're still missing an aweful lot of this story.

MaddDog · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2004, 04:49:54 PM »

ah man thatd make me really sick:(

Westy · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2004, 05:04:53 PM »

Well, if that doesn't then this will..

"NBC News has learned that long before the war the Bush administration had several chances to wipe out his terrorist operation and perhaps kill Zarqawi himself — but never pulled the trigger....."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/

Will have to wait and see how substaniated this becomes of course. The same way people did when accusations that Clinton personally let Osama off the hook were

MaddDog · « **Reply #3 on:** May 12, 2004, 05:07:11 PM »

sigh, you are right.

The world seems to be gettin chittier and chittier every day, make you really wonder whats ahead in the future.

Toad · « **Reply #4 on:** May 12, 2004, 05:15:20 PM »

If that's true, they're as negligent as Clinton was. Stupidity beyond all boundaries.

If they could have gotten him, that should have taken the shot.

Of course, that far into Iraq there'd be absolutely no confirmation of who we did or did not kill. By the time CNN got there, only dead children would have found been in the craters; Any buildings would have been stuffed with scorched hospital equipment, courtesy of SH.

The entire world would have attacked us for killing Iraqi kids due to bad intel information.

None the less, I think it would have been worth it IF we could have gotten him.

Let's see how this one develops.

Fishu · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2004, 05:34:13 PM »

For conspiracy theorists, this is quite a gem with all the happenings.

First was revealed how iraqi prisoners were tortured/humiliated, which made it possible to really damage Bush's support.
Then happened this outrageous act, which conveniently happens to also really increase support for the war and Bush.
It's a wonder if good bunch of people suddenly doesn't see torture/humiliation of iraqi prisoners under a whole new light.
Also somewhat conveniently it happens to be Al Qaeda, after they hadn't been under the spotlight for a long time in Iraq.
Attention used to be more on the other militant/terrorist groups out there.
Nobody wouldn't either believe such an outrageous act would been created by some US based goverment organization.

All in all, it's going to greatly increase support for the war & Bush and make torture/humiliation of iraqi prisoners a lesser evil than it was.
However most likely nobody will never know who really were behind it.

and before someone begins screaming bloody murder, the above 'conspiracy theory' is not really what I do think of it.
but it's always interesting after all whats happened.
Although it's not an impossible scenario, since beheading someone wouldn't be anything compared to some things which some goverments have done to drive their own benefit.
Like the very recent case where some dozen refugees were shot on purpose and then told to been terrorist - just to say to certain countries "we are serious with war on terrorism".
(I don't recall the country which did this and was revealed just recently.. hmpf)

Lizking · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2004, 05:49:37 PM »

You mean there were terrorists inside Iraq?!

Otto · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2004, 05:59:10 PM »

So, before his head stops rolling his death is now a conspersity of the Bush administration..? You are all sick beyond your years...

Gyro/T69 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2004, 06:40:40 PM »

Up coming news at 11.

A high-ranking source, on the condition that his name not be used, reveled today that Nick Berg was secretly spirited away to a little used anteroom deep in the basement of the Whitehouse. There, in full view of President Bush, five CIA mercenary dressed as Al-Qaeda operators beheaded Mr. Berg while shouting in perfect Arabia, “God is great”

That should pretty much cover it.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2004, 07:00:30 PM »

Interesting responses.

Personally, I found myself wondering about the relationship between Berg and the terrorists.

Apparently the US and Iraqi authorities paid an aweful lot of attention to him, questioning his motives for being in Iraq, he went there "looking" for work, not having a job yet, and as far as I can tell, there is a void between his time in coalition captivity and the video that isnt explained very well.

What are the odds of him being released by the Iraqi's only to be executed by by chance in the hands of AQ shortly thereafter?

Maybe he was on his way to see them anyway and outgrew his usefullness?

Sixpence · « **Reply #10 on:** May 12, 2004, 07:17:43 PM »

Look at the picture of the masked men, they are all FAT. Now if you have seen pictures of al-qaeda members or terrorists, they usually suffer from malnutrition and are not well fed. These guys are porky and well fed to say the least. The fat arabs I see are always the ones living well in saudi arabia or Kuwait, where living is good, or that of saddam's old regime who lived well. Of all the captured al-qeada, I never saw round ones.

Gyro/T69 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 12, 2004, 07:29:36 PM »

Up coming news at 11.

A high-ranking source, on the condition that his name not be used, reveled today that Nick Berg was secretly spirited away to a little used anteroom deep in the basement of the Whitehouse. There, in full view of President Bush, five FAT CIA mercenary dressed as Al-Qaeda operators beheaded Mr. Berg while shouting in perfect Arabia, “God is great”

That should pretty much cover it. Picky, Picky, Picky.

VOR · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2004, 07:36:33 PM »

Sixpence,

Keen observation (the men in the vid look healthy), but incorrect assumption (terrorists are in hiding and starving).

Sixpence · « **Reply #13 on:** May 12, 2004, 07:51:34 PM »

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Originally posted by VOR
(the men in the vid look healthy)

To say the least, you see the two on the right? They all have what could be described as beer guts, they just don't seem to fit the al-qaeda profile, they all seem like they live pretty well. That's why I mention them maybe being saudis or of saddam's old regime. They say they're al-qeada and who is going to question it?

Gunslinger · « **Reply #14 on:** May 12, 2004, 08:13:03 PM »

AL Sadr isnt exactly skinny??????

OMG some guys who arnt skinny claim to be Al Queda.

Six arnt you the one that posted all those threads about bld 7 in the WTC being detonated by the NYFD?

BUSH could cure cancer aids and end world hunger and you haters will still say too little too late