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Offline strk

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« on: May 14, 2004, 06:54:02 AM »
these are quotes from the GOP platform in 2000.  The irony is baked right in!

"The arrogance, inconsistency, and unreliability of the administration's diplomacy have undermined American alliances, alienated friends, and emboldened our adversaries."

"Gerrymandered congressional districts are an affront to democracy and an insult to the voters. We oppose that and any other attempt to rig the electoral process."

"Nor should the intelligence community be made the scapegoat for political misjudgments. A Republican administration working with the Congress will respect the needs and quiet sacrifices of these public servants as it strengthens America's intelligence and counter-intelligence capabilities and reorients them toward the dangers of the future."

"The current administration has casually sent American armed forces on dozens of missions without clear goals, realizable objectives, favorable rules of engagement, or defined exit strategies.  Over the past seven years, a shrunken American military has been run ragged by a deployment tempo that has eroded its military readiness. Many units have seen their operational requirements increased four-fold, wearing out both people and equipment."


"The rule of law, the very foundation for a free society, has been under assault, not only by criminals from the ground up, but also from the top down. An administration that lives by evasion, coverup, stonewalling, and duplicity has given us a totally discredited Department of Justice."


"Sending our military on vague, aimless, and endless missions rapidly saps morale. Even the highest morale is eventually undermined by back-to-back deployments, poor pay, shortages of spare parts and equipment, inadequate training, and rapidly declining readiness."


"Our goal for NATO is a strong political and security fellowship of independent nations in which consultations are mutually respected and defense burdens mutually shared."


"As the traditional advocate of America's veterans, the Republican Party remains committed to fulfilling America's obligations to them. That is why we defeated the administration's attempt to replace veterans' health care with a national system for everybody."


"The weak leadership and neglect of the administration have allowed America's intelligence capabilities, including space based systems, to atrophy, resulting in repeated proliferation surprises such as Iraq's renewed chemical and biological weapons programs."



"The Social Security surplus is off-limits, off budget, and will not be touched. We will not stop there, for we are also determined to protect Medicare and to pay down the national debt. Reducing that debt is both a sound policy goal and a moral imperative. Our families and most states are required to balance their budgets; it is reasonable to assume the federal government should do the same. Therefore, we reaffirm our support for a constitutional amendment to require a balanced budget."



"Inspired by Presidents Reagan and Bush, Republicans hammered into place the framework for today's prosperity and surpluses. We cut tax rates, simplified the tax code, deregulated industries, and opened world markets to American enterprise. The result was the tremendous growth in the 1980s that created the venture capital to launch the technology revolution of the 1990s.  That's the origin of what is now called the New Economy: the longest economic boom in the Twentieth Century, 40 million new jobs, the lowest inflation and unemployment in memory." [ed. the reason I find this ironic is becaues it contradicts administration claims that the recession began under Clinton]


"A Republican president will work with businesses and with other nations to reduce harmful emissions through new technologies without compromising America's sovereignty or competitiveness -- and without forcing Americans to walk to work."


"We applaud Governor Bush's pledge to name only judges who have demonstrated that they share his conservative beliefs and respect the Constitution."

"Reacting belatedly to inevitable crises, the administration constantly enlarges the reach of its rhetoric -- most recently in Vice President Gore's "new security agenda" that adds disease, climate, and all the world's ethnic or religious conflicts to an undiminished set of existing American responsibilities. If there is some limit to candidate Gore's new agenda for America as global social worker, he has yet to define it."



"A new Republican administration will patiently rebuild an international coalition opposed to Saddam Hussein and committed to joint action. We will insist that Iraq comply fully with its disarmament commitments. We will maintain the sanctions on the Iraqi regime while seeking to alleviate the suffering of innocent Iraqi people. We will react forcefully and unequivocally to any evidence of reconstituted Iraqi capabilities for producing weapons of mass destruction."

"The administration has used an arsenal of dilatory tactics to block any serious support to the Iraqi National Congress, an umbrella organization reflecting a broad and representative group of Iraqis who wish to free their country from the scourge of Saddam Hussein's regime."


"Republicans prefer an America that is far less dependent on foreign crude oil. A Republican president will not be so tolerant if OPEC colludes to drive up the world price of oil, as it has done this past year."

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/conventions/republican/features/platform.00/#1

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/14/2440/62372

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2004, 08:09:59 AM »
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"The Social Security surplus is off-limits, off budget, and will not be touched. We will not stop there, for we are also determined to protect Medicare and to pay down the national debt. Reducing that debt is both a sound policy goal and a moral imperative. Our families and most states are required to balance their budgets; it is reasonable to assume the federal government should do the same. Therefore, we reaffirm our support for a constitutional amendment to require a balanced budget."


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"Nor should the intelligence community be made the scapegoat for political misjudgments. A Republican administration working with the Congress will respect the needs and quiet sacrifices of these public servants as it strengthens America's intelligence and counter-intelligence capabilities and reorients them toward the dangers of the future."


Nice post strk.. These were among my favorites..  Dont figure too many Bush supporters will chime on this one.. hehe


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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2004, 08:22:33 AM »
So for breakfast today I actually has some toast.  I used to eat alot of toast as a kid but it just sounded good.  One w/ jelly....the other w/ honey.  Than and my coffee and morning cig.  what a good way to start a friday.
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2004, 08:27:02 AM »
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I will.  Those are all OK point but I really think they're reaching.  Keep trying though.


lol

Those are not points.. Those are statements, many by Bush, and everyone of them have been trampled underfoot by our current administration...  Not some of them... ALL of them...

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2004, 08:36:22 AM »
"The Social Security surplus is off-limits, off budget, and will not be touched. We will not stop there, for we are also determined to protect Medicare and to pay down the national debt. Reducing that debt is both a sound policy goal and a moral imperative."

Oh boy, that one strikes a nerve. I feel a rant building.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2004, 08:39:32 AM »
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"The Social Security surplus is off-limits, off budget, and will not be touched. We will not stop there, for we are also determined to protect Medicare and to pay down the national debt. Reducing that debt is both a sound policy goal and a moral imperative."

Oh boy, that one strikes a nerve. I feel a rant building.


YOu know they have pills for that now.  It's the 21st century and we have a pill to fix just about everything......even rants.  I had a friend who suffered from rants and he was  a libral to.  He did nothing to fix it and all his hair fell out and eventually the acid in his stomach burned all the way through.  He had a very painfull death mumbling somthing about socialized medicine.

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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2004, 08:42:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
YOu know they have pills for that now.  It's the 21st century and we have a pill to fix just about everything......even rants.  I had a friend who suffered from rants and he was  a libral to.  He did nothing to fix it and all his hair fell out and eventually the acid in his stomach burned all the way through.  He had a very painfull death mumbling somthing about socialized medicine.


A friend, or was it really..............you! cept for the dead part
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2004, 08:44:47 AM »
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A friend, or was it really..............you!


Ok you got me.  It wasnt me but truth be told I dont have any friends.  I do live in California so its hard to make friends here without being called a Fascist Nazi.  It doesnt help the fact that I wear my "Hippies suck" Tshirt all the time

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2004, 08:49:10 AM »
I don't know, you seem to know alot of peace pots.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2004, 08:51:43 AM »
how many were stated before Sept 11, 2001?
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2004, 09:10:17 AM »
Show me a perfect administration anywhere in our history.

We can go back and forth on this finger pointing, and I know most of us do, but there isn't any reason that hasn't been rehashed before.

Both parties cater to the middle when it comes to votes, but since I am closer to the right than the left the Repub's more often than not get my vote.

Quit nominating idiots Dems and you will see votes coming.
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2004, 10:02:15 AM »
Ok.. so show me where the republicans did any spending that would increase debt that was not related to this war?

This war will end but democrat social programs go on forever.

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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2004, 10:08:03 AM »
Here is a post at some political forum, not sure about the numbers though  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/1100848/posts
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2004, 10:12:37 AM »
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Here is a post at some political forum, not sure about the numbers though  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/1100848/posts


And this one is from "The American Conservative"

http://amconmag.com/2_16_04/feature.html
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2004, 10:12:46 AM »
yep... pretty much as I expected.. republicans spend on defense and democrats spend on buerocracy and socialist issues.

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