Author Topic: AP:Iraqi Artillery Shells with WMDs Found (Read 1946 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:15:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
Sti, our stated policy has been for a long time that we would use Nukes in retaliation for any WMD, including chem or bio war.

I really don't believe the US would have though, in GW2. It would have worked against us.

Westy · « **Reply #31 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:15:45 PM »

Gee. I honestly can't count all the times the "WMD FOUND!" banner was hoisted up so quickly by the same old few on this vbb over the last year.

If they can trace this one shell back to a significant hidden storage cahce then I'll be the first to say I was wrong.

And if not. How many billions of $$ spent and lives wasted for one 155 shell which is suspected of having sarin gas and obtained from who knows where?

capt. apathy · « **Reply #32 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:17:28 PM »

but we where told they were an imminent threat. it just doesn't add up. Hussein knew he couldn't beat us in a war. if he had the weapons he'd have used them to try to hold us off.

I wonder if it ever occurred to you guys that maybe the reason he wasn't 100% cooperative is that with the volatile nature of that region and within his own country he was trying to walk a tightrope- cooperate just enough with us and at the same time produce enough doubt that his local enemies have to wonder if he still has the stuff.

did we really invade Iraq, lose as many men and women as we have and spent all this money to track down one 155mm round that may or may not have been there at the time we invaded.

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #33 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:18:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
Gee. I honestly can't count all the times the "WMD FOUND!" banner was hoisted up so quickly by the same old few on this vbb over the last year.

If they can trace this one shell back to a significant hidden storage cahce then I'll be the first to say I was wrong.

And if not. How many billions of $$ spent and lives wasted for one 155 shell which is suspected of having sarin gas and obtained from who knows where?

Mission accomplished dude, mission accomplished.

on a side note the president of the Iraqi ruleing council(the guy that would have been in charge after june 30th) was killed today. That was the 2nd one killed.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #34 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:23:12 PM »

If the warhead was indeed pre-1991 era ammo, it's nothing remarkable. It's a known fact Iraq produced WMD before the gulf1 but destroyed them afterwards. The unmarked round was probably one in a million case, hardly something to invade a country for.

That put aside, I saw what the prettythangholes did to Nick Berg.. I say kill em all and let allah sort them out.

muckmaw · « **Reply #35 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:29:26 PM »

Wow, so many people on this board...and the usual suspect I might add discounting this find before the story even got cold!

And you have to discount it because that's your rally cry, isn't it?

It's the sole argument you have left.

We can't take that away, lest the left be without reason to exist!

Where did the shell come from?

Some nomad dig it up and sell it on the black market ala "Sum of all Fears"?

Are there more where he found it?

Could a bedouin have found the smoking gun that the most powerful nation on earth could not?

Or did the shell originate in Syria, Iran or some other country?

Is it better to wait and keep an open mind than to close your eyes, cover years ears and scream "LALALALA...I'm not listening"?

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #36 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:33:22 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
Wow, so many people on this board...and the usual suspect I might add discounting this find before the story even got cold!

And you have to discount it because that's your rally cry, isn't it?

It's the sole argument you have left.

We can't take that away, lest the left be without reason to exist!

Where did the shell come from?

Some nomad dig it up and sell it on the black market ala "Sum of all Fears"?

Are there more where he found it?

Could a bedouin have found the smoking gun that the most powerful nation on earth could not?

Or did the shell originate in Syria, Iran or some other country?

Is it better to wait and keep an open mind than to close your eyes, cover years ears and scream "LALALALA...I'm not listening"?

I really hope there is not more where that came from, but i think noone has a clue about it at this point. It is kind of pointless for us to argue over this untill it develops.

Nilsen · « **Reply #37 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:33:32 PM »

Good thing that Iraq was invaded.... we would not want that old pre 91 shell getting into the wrong hands.

better luck next time.

Sandman · « **Reply #38 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:37:47 PM »

I feel safer now.

Westy · « **Reply #39 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:54:14 PM »

And you have to discount it because that's your rally cry, isn't it? It's the sole argument you have left..."

That's a reach! "Cry wolf" several many times over and what do you deserve? Here's several topics created by the same old party puppets over the past year when "WMD FOUND!"

Saddam sends ships of death out to sea with chem/bios weapons to attack!!
Saddam tried to buy uranium in Liberia!!
saddam has drones of death with poison gas ready to attack east coast!!
chem/bio wapeosn deployed for use as soon as Iraq is invaded!
chem/bio weapons ready for use when line of death crossed!
101st finds missiles with sarin gas!!
mobile chem labs burried under the desert!!
nuke lab found buried under sand!!
prison lab complex used in human testing of BW agents!!
a rolling Bio-lab truck with supposedly had false panels!!
100 barrels of radioactive material found at Iraqi nuclear site!!
mobile germ warfare tractor trailers found by British!!
massive bunker complex loaded with artillery rounds packed with mustard gas!
Nuklear program unearthed in Baghdad back yard!!
Danish troops find shells filled with mustard gas!!!!
Saddams can't be found because the WMD were moved to Syria before war!!!
Iraq ex-Minister Says Saddam's WMD Carefully Hidden! but no idea where.....
But Clinton said Saddam had all those WMD. Not Bush!

Hortlund · « **Reply #40 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:55:10 PM »

Nielsen please answer this one question.

Were there WMDs in Iraq?

I ask you this question in light of the fact that a WMD was recently detonated in Iraq.

Were there WMDs in Iraq?

Some general facts to aid you in your reply.
1) Sarin is a WMD
2) An artillery shell containing Sarin is a WMD
3) An artillery shell containing Sarin was recently detonated in Iraq.

I would very much like to hear your answer.
Thanks.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 17, 2004, 12:57:28 PM »

Well obviously Boosh had Halliburton plant it there.

muckmaw · « **Reply #42 on:** May 17, 2004, 01:03:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
And you have to discount it because that's your rally cry, isn't it? It's the sole argument you have left..."

That's a reach! "Cry wolf" several many times over and what do you deserve? Here's several topics created by the same old party puppets over the past year when "WMD FOUND!"

Saddam sends ships of death out to sea with chem/bios weapons to attack!!
Saddam tried to buy uranium in Liberia!!
saddam has drones of death with poison gas ready to attack east coast!!
chem/bio wapeosn deployed for use as soon as Iraq is invaded!
chem/bio weapons ready for use when line of death crossed!
101st finds missiles with sarin gas!!
mobile chem labs burried under the desert!!
nuke lab found buried under sand!!
prison lab complex used in human testing of BW agents!!
a rolling Bio-lab truck with supposedly had false panels!!
100 barrels of radioactive material found at Iraqi nuclear site!!
mobile germ warfare tractor trailers found by British!!
massive bunker complex loaded with artillery rounds packed with mustard gas!
Nuklear program unearthed in Baghdad back yard!!
Danish troops find shells filled with mustard gas!!!!
Saddams can't be found because the WMD were moved to Syria before war!!!
Iraq ex-Minister Says Saddam's WMD Carefully Hidden! but no idea where.....
But Clinton said Saddam had all those WMD. Not Bush!

Can't really see how this is crying wolf, Westy.

It's an undisputed fact that a single 155MM shell containing Sarin gas was found and detonated in Iraq.

Now we must ask ourselves where it came from. When we have this answer, we can make an informed decision as to whether or not it was wise to invade Iraq in the WMD Premise.

To walk around screaming "We found 'em" and "No You did'nt Bush Lied...Save the whales" is simply wasted breath, isn;t it?

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #43 on:** May 17, 2004, 01:07:25 PM »

If this leads to a stockpile of thousands then the war is justified.

Nilsen · « **Reply #44 on:** May 17, 2004, 01:07:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
Nielsen please answer this one question.

Were there WMDs in Iraq?

I ask you this question in light of the fact that a WMD was recently detonated in Iraq.

Were there WMDs in Iraq?

Some general facts to aid you in your reply.
1) Sarin is a WMD
2) An artillery shell containing Sarin is a WMD
3) An artillery shell containing Sarin was recently detonated in Iraq.

I would very much like to hear your answer.
Thanks.

Yes Hortlund. nobody has EVER denied that Iraq had WMD's at one point in time...whats your point?

point me to one person on this bb that has denied that Iraq has had wmd's..thx