Next AH Scenario - Battle of Britain 2004

[jordi]

We are assuming this will run under AHII - so you still have time to test the beta before it goes live and do any hardware / software upgrades needed to fly in AHII.

The Command Staffs have been set.

The ALLIED CO is 68KO - bundy28@comcast.net

The AXIS CO is RDRTrash - allen@completeecom.com

If you are interested in helping either CO as an XO or GL please send them an Email.

We are looking at running this on the FIRST FOUR SUNDAYS in August 1st / 8th / 15th / 22nd.

The estimated Takeoff times will be 1:00 PM EDT. This will allow the European pilots time to finish at a reasonable hour before work on Monday.

We are still working on the rules and such to work with what AHII now offers.

Please post any questions you may have about Battle of Britain 2004.

[Gypsy Baron]

Originally posted by jordi
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We are looking at running this on the FIRST FOUR SUNDAYS in August 1st / 8th / 15th / 22nd.


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 ( sigh...) Another four-frame "mini scenario"...

 Don't AH participants have the attention span required
 for a six to twelve frame event?

 No matter...I'll be gone all summer but in the fall I'd
 sure like to look forward to an "in depth" event....

    =GB= ( can someone really miss DoK??... )

[214thCavalier]

I don't care if its over 4 or 12 frames as long as its not as one sided as the current Kurland scenario.

[ramzey]

7 pm, CET, 8 am PAC?

Do we have anything about rules? any overview?
For how many players we target?
no ground units?
again 3rd country radar operators or HTC improve possibilities? ;-)
Any chance for dedicated bombers for this battle? D0-17, ju86, he 111?(versions from 1940, not like ju88 current we have) (utopia zero ;-) )

germans will use 109E, current version we have or we can expect som earlier model? (utopia ;-) )
Do italians will have som biplanes to fly?(utopia bis ;-) )
Any chance of get ride of lazzer clip guns from bombers?

thats all so far

for sure i will bring bunch of Poles, so we do reservation for 303 rd and 302nd fighter squadron. ( should i reminde we fly hurricanes? ;-)


i know you like my trolling

regards
ramzey

[Flossy]

1pm Eastern = 10am Pacific.....  

[ramzey]

well, this is last answer i like to read :-)
thx Helen

[jordi]

Originally posted by ramzey
7 pm, CET, 8 am PAC?

Jordi - We will be going back to the normal Scenario Time of 3:00 PM ET for frame dates.


Do we have anything about rules? any overview?

Jordi - The CM's will be going ove rthe rules and will start posting them for the CO's and comamnd staff to look over next week.

For how many players we target?

Jordi - 200 or more

no ground units?

Jordi - possible for Frame #4 if the LW is able to achieve goals to try to invade England.

again 3rd country radar operators or HTC improve possibilities? ;-)

Jordi - Yes on 3rd Country Radar Operators - Not sure what HTC will be able to do. We will look at what new thigns are offered in AH II once we get our hands on it.

Any chance for dedicated bombers for this battle? D0-17, ju86, he 111?(versions from 1940, not like ju88 current we have) (utopia zero ;-) )

Jordi - Ju87's - Not sure we will get anything else - would be nice to get an earlier bomber - utopia


germans will use 109E, current version we have or we can expect som earlier model? (utopia ;-) )

Jordi - Current for now - not sure we will get anything new ?

Do italians will have som biplanes to fly?(utopia bis ;-) )

Jordi - Not that I am aware of Were they involved in BoB ?

Any chance of get ride of lazzer clip guns from bombers?

Jordi - Not sure till we test in AHII with any arena settings that may affect those settings.


thats all so far

for sure i will bring bunch of Poles, so we do reservation for 303 rd and 302nd fighter squadron. ( should i reminde we fly hurricanes? ;-)


Jordi - Just lett he RAF CO Know !  



i know you like my trolling

regards
ramzey

thanks,

[68falcon]

Jordi your killing me JU87's ? or does this mean no JU88's

[jordi]

We did not have the Ju87 Stuka's in the first BoB. We do now and we will fit them in.

We also have the Ju88's still.

[ramzey]

Jordi,
Our expirience in last BoB Scenario with ju88 was not so good.
This  mid 40's bomber outperform hurricane mk1, something what was not happend during WW2 battle.
Simply ju88 pilot not need to care too much about catching them by hurricane pilots and in consequence change goals f scenario.
Thats beucose bombers can defend yourself without fighters help and not get too much losses.

We have couple months to BoB. I hope once HTC will be so kinde and help a little to match historical planeset. Its allmost shame for AH, with this all variety of multi engine bombers for allies , have only 2 axis bombers.

Please Jordi do something, i belive in you:)

regards
ramzey

[68falcon]

Ramzey did you receive my email ?

[jordi]

I THINK the Ju88's were given ORDERS to stick to 75% throttle setting to reduce the speed advantage they had over the Spits / Hurri's.

I will try to verify that.

Not sure WHAT we will get if anything between now and Frame #1 day.

[ramzey]

neg  Falcon, shot me at ramzeyca@op.pl

Jordi , you are Gandalf of AH scenarios, try it please
I think even if HTC is outy of schedule with AH2, could try do  something for his most loyal players who allways fly good events. And keep open accounts only for this reason.

As i remember 75% of throttle was only idea, but who can chk or force bomber pilot to run on full speed in danger?
If thats will be a rule, for sure it will be dead rule.

regards
ramzey

[Batz]

Originally posted by jordi
I THINK the Ju88's were given ORDERS to stick to 75% throttle setting to reduce the speed advantage they had over the Spits / Hurri's.

I will try to verify that.

Not sure WHAT we will get if anything between now and Frame #1 day.

In the first BoB my personal orders to the ju88s (I was Axis CO; Wotan) were to fly at about 80% throttle. The Ju88a4 is actually a later variant and a bit faster (between 12 and 24 mph faster at alt) then the A1 and A5 (a4 airframe, a1 engines).

In reality the ju88 suffers from a fuel bug (remember the slot the ju88s had to be moved further down) that forced us to fly much lower then 80% (about 60% IIRC).

 I had good ju88 planners and pilots.Their formations were so good they ended the scenario with the most kills. Allied pilots still complained they were to fast and too tough

The Ju87d3 is a bit faster then the b1/b2s that were in the real BoB. But its so slow as not to matter. It also carries a heavier bomb load. I assume no 1800kg bombs allowed?

The big issue in the 1st BoB was the targets for the ju88s. Every hangar in Southern England had to be destroyed. It was virtually impossible to accomplish this with the low number of 88 pilots and the new bomb site. Theres was no consideration made for losses, which Ironically was the whole LW objective of the battle (to shoot down large numbers of allied fighters)

You wont get new planes but each plane for both sides may get (if you have skinners to volunteer) their own unique and historical skin. Provided the event is run in Ah2.

[68falcon]

Ramzey email sent